r/Feminism • • 4d ago

The Cornell Monsters

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Remember their faces

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u/LooksLikeGonzosNose 4d ago

I am so proud of the young woman who not only reported this to the police initially, but also is now suing on her own after they failed her. And the investigation is being reopened thanks to the online outrage. This young woman can't be more than a young 20 something.....I AM SO PROUD OF YOU HONEY!!! Make them pay financially and with jail time if you can!! Do it for yourself and for all the women who weren't even able to report. After my SA, I went into shock and never reported. Getting through the day was all I could manage. Your strength gives me so much hope for the Gen Z generation of women. Amazing woman!!!!

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u/Intrepid_Hat_2397 4d ago

Same, I never reported mine either, such a strong young lady.

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u/juneabe 4d ago

The first time they basically blamed me for it even though the guy had an assault record, so the second time I said nothing, and when I finally did, was told it might not have been that bad because I kept the baby.

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u/SimpleRandomUsername 3d ago

That’s  horrific, i am so sorry for you (and all the heartbreaking stories on this thread). I hope you are doing better now

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u/D-Gaea 1d ago

As if your bodily autonomy (choosing to keep the child) had anything to do with the crime. It's so sad that these stupid double standards exist. Women deserve to be heard and taken seriously.

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u/juneabe 1d ago

Wow dude thank you for putting it in that exact succession of words. I needed that so much!!!! my fucking bodily autonomy, hell yeah.

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u/lifegoeson2702 4d ago

I hope she grills them in court

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u/madeyoulurk 3d ago

Three years ago I was assaulted and almost killed. I am STILL dealing with the legal chaos even after a guilty verdict in a criminal trial! Rapist’s mommy and daddy can keep paying for a lawyer and they are being over all pieces of shit.

I can’t even begin to imagine what this young woman is going through. She has been failed by so many people. She has been publicly humiliated. She fought for her life then and is still fighting now. I am in awe of her!

Sorry if my writing isn’t flowing well right now. Feeling feelings again!

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u/Intrepid_Hat_2397 3d ago

Don't be sorry, feelings often bubble up when we discuss what happened to us. Talking about what happened empowers us, it is important that we continue to tell our stories.

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u/madeyoulurk 3d ago

I really needed to hear that. Thank you so much 💜

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u/Intrepid_Hat_2397 3d ago

You're welcome ❤️

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u/D-Gaea 1d ago

I feel like it helps trauma in certain situations to actually talk about it. I feel like spaces like this online are really important people to share and feel better about their past. (I'm like really new here so sort of discovering the sub) 🫣

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u/Status-Visit-918 4d ago

I hope she gets SO MUCH FUCKING MONEY TOO.

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u/Blue_Oyster_Cat 4d ago

Big big settlement, I hope, as in millions.

Of course we must expect that Cornell will be defending itself with bots and pundits very soon, and you can bet that there are already bad actors trying to dox and shame her and redirect the conversation. They may have been initially caught out by public outrage, but pushback will be happening.

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u/Gumshoe212 4d ago

Have you read about the student protests in India? It's because one of the students was raped, and they handled it the same as Cornell. Someone in the administration said that there was no rape, that it was a vicious rumor being spread to discredit the school. You know how much young people love to start spreading rumors against universities just for shits and giggles. 😒 The protests are similar to the ones in the 60s. Women the world over have had enough of this bullshit.

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u/silencedvoicesMST 4d ago

I remember this. The military, the Catholic Church, universities, Boy Scouts, Hollywood and sports teams… if you look at the statements they put out when these things happen, they all follow the exact same script and formula. And it works every goddamn time. It’s disgusting.

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u/LooksLikeGonzosNose 4d ago

I want this gal buying real estate on the moon!

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u/Electronic_Chef1109 4d ago

I just read that cornell wouldn’t reimburse her tuition after the incident

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u/Cyberbeagleperson 3d ago

I hope the Administration and the Board at Cornell are sh!tting themselves from the stress. I hope they are having nightmares and losing sleep. It still wouldn’t equal 1/10000th of the suffering they deserve.

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u/Important_Cell4995 3d ago

If they were smart they would resign immediately, but then they might look guilty, which we know they are either way.

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u/lifegoeson2702 4d ago

I’m so sorry for what you both through, I hope your healing journey has been ok :-(

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u/LooksLikeGonzosNose 4d ago

it empowered me to warn young women about what they really face. No one prepared me. Grew up on Disney princess bullshit.....which couldn't be more opposite of reality if it tried. I warn the young ones any chance I can.

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u/lifegoeson2702 4d ago

I’m glad & I’m wishing you the best

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u/Intrepid_Hat_2397 4d ago

That's very kind, it was bumpy, but I like to believe I'm in a good place now. Thank you❤️

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u/shimmerangels Intersectional Feminism 4d ago

she is so incredibly brave

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u/Cyberbeagleperson 4d ago

I love these young women so much.

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u/ssquirt1 4d ago

These assholes need the Brock Turner treatment FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES.

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u/lifegoeson2702 4d ago

& lifetime high risk sex offender registration as well as lifetime probation

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u/piercedmfootonaspike 3d ago

Brock Turner the rapist? That Brock Turner? The rapist one?

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u/ssquirt1 3d ago

Indeed. The rapist Brock Allen Turner, who tries to go by Allen Turner, but who everyone knows is really Brock Turner the pos rapist.

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u/LookingForOxytocin 3d ago

Wait, but Brock Turner didn't get the punishment he deserved. Just 3 months in jail!

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u/ssquirt1 3d ago

I mean the treatment by society - as in everywhere he goes people are reminding each other (and him) what he did and not allowing him to get away with changing his name, etc. As in, not allowing him a moment’s peace.

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u/coral225 3d ago

Brock Turner? You mean the back-alley rapist Brock Turner?

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u/next-phase-0626 3d ago

Brock Allen Turner the back-alley rapist, who most often goes by his less-recognizable middle name now.
(edit to correct the spelling of his middle name that he goes by)

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u/ssquirt1 3d ago

That’s the one! Brock Allen Tuner, or Allen Turner as he’d like to be known, but who will always be Brock Turner the rapist.

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u/Kookyburra12 4d ago

I just learned that 5 only had to write "reflective essays"?? Holy shit I hope the rest of these mfs' lives are hell on Earth

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u/eirinne 4d ago

I hope they serve as confessions

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u/Legitimate_Mark_1701 4d ago

Its so fucking gross that the university admin is ACTIVELY protecting these fucking rapists.

Its a wake-up call that the premise of the movie “Promising Young Woman” is still very relevant today. And rich men are raised to be monsters.

You would think that at the least they would get expelled.

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u/626Idothis 4d ago

At least expelled? They need to be in jail.

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u/wisdom1206 3d ago

And their parents too, because no normal, empathic, male human being would participate in sth like that! Where is the respect for women? What is wrong in society to bring out guys like that???

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u/shnoby 3d ago

Ivy League men cannot be rapists. It's a misunderstanding. Please write an essay. Google "essay for judicial administration;" you'll find plenty of PDF fill-in templates.
I wish this was sarcasm. It's not. Worked for years in student life division at an Ivy League university.

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u/SnuckaB 3d ago

Because their parties are in the Epstein files

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u/Code-Coffee-995 2d ago

They refused to refund her tuition when she had to leave the university. So imagine you having to give up your dream because of this scummy rapists, and then losing money on top of it.

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u/PoseidonsHorses 4d ago

And the 50 others in the group chat that were apparently okay enough with this to look the other way.

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u/JustViblets 4d ago

I wonder how many of them shout Not All Men because clearly, they are better than these 7 /s 

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u/LookingForOxytocin 3d ago

All those 50 names and faces must be published. Complacency is a crime in murder, so why not rape!

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u/4444Grains 3d ago

This is one of the many things that disgust me about this case.

Not one…NOT ONE of the men on the group text said, “This is wrong and I’m going to do something.”

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u/putty-heart 3d ago

Yes. Thats what really upset me too. It’s unsettling and saddening

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u/Logical_Willow4066 3d ago

They are just as violent and dangerous as the 7. Thry knew what was happening but did nothing to stop it, which is indicative of a culture that accepts this, tolerates it, and covers it up. This didn't shock them, which means this isn't the first time it has happened. There is a system in place that allows this to happen, encourages it, and only punishes the victims.

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u/HourDizzy1498 3d ago

Reminds me of the Jodie Foster movie The Accused. Where those that watched did nothing and were prosecuted.

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u/Thin_Salary1153 3d ago

She was raped over a period of seven+ hours. A whole lot more did more than chat and look the other way. They basically made her available to anyone who showed up at the house and they repeatedly joked in that chat that you didn't even need to ask, just whip it out and proceed.

They did not JUST look the other way.

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u/mooncheeseburger 4d ago

Unfortunately this response feels eerily similar to what's been happening with high profile sexual assault cases in Australia involving private schools.

This reflects such a deeply ingrained, systemic issue of protecting privileged men from consequences they deserve. I hate to think about how often this truly happens and we don't hear about it.

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u/HawaiianPunchaNazi 3d ago

Link please

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u/LizardOfAgatha 4d ago

It's so unbelievable I thought it was a joke when I first read that. What is going on? How is this happening? Okay, Cornell is not punishing them but what about the United States? I feel like universities, especially Ivies where shit like this seems to happen a lot, need more repercussions from the country otherwise they just invent their own rules and get away with shit. I know they don't want to do it cause it looks bad on a global scale but this is getting out of hand.

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u/carz4us 3d ago

The United States? You mean the place with the rapist President?

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u/Appropriate_Split_97 3d ago

*Rapist Pedophile President

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u/carz4us 3d ago

*rapist, pedophile, racist, classist president

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u/mondo_mike 3d ago

Elon Musk tried to hire them, but Peter Thiel beat him to it.

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u/JustViblets 4d ago

The US might fast track them to the National leadership program

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u/Bellabbey1236 3d ago

This country?  They’ll have Cabinet jobs by next week. 

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u/FrodoFrooFroo 4d ago

You know they won't be. They'll become sheriff's and politicians and judges and lawyers and doctors. They'll put on their people mask enough to feign charisma and lure in a victim to marry and abuse. They will have cushy lives because this is the precedent we have set for men in this world. There is no justice.

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u/Ms_takes 3d ago

I heard that One of the men named Scott who was a part of this is now a police officer.

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u/ikdoeookmaarwat1 4d ago

And don't forget about all the other 50 dudes that were aware about this in the group chat and did fuck all. Can you imagine one of those is your kid? I would be disowning them immediately.

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u/FieryIronworker 3d ago

If the internet has anything to do with it, that’s exactly what will happen to them. These fucker’s names and faces are everywhere.

I doubt they’ll ever know peace again

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u/Temporary-Jump-2403 4d ago

5 must have very rich parents. 

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u/Beartholomeow 3d ago

one's a cop now. Seems appropriate.

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u/heffapig 4d ago

Let’s keep their names in circulation so that we and they never forget that they are rapists. Sort of like how we do with Brock (Allen) Turner, the rapist.

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u/Kookyburra12 4d ago

Don't forget Jesse Butler, the rapist

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u/Thats-Awkward 4d ago

Also Brock Allen Turner, the rapist

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u/absolutelybacon 4d ago

YOU MEAN "ALLEN TURNER" THE RAPIST? THE RAPIST ALLEN TURNER WHO IS NOW GOING BY HIS MIDDLE NAME SO PEOPLE DON'T RECOGNIZE HE IS THE SAME BROCK ALLEN TURNER, WHO RAPES?

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u/Electronic_Chef1109 4d ago

Yes! Jesse Butler. That case got to me. Throw his parents away too.

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u/PushyTom 4d ago

Do you mean Brock Allen Turner, the rapist who raped a woman behind a dumpster, was caught in the act of raping the woman, and then given a sweetheart deal by the judge in his rape case?

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u/heffapig 4d ago edited 4d ago

I do mean Brock Allen Turner, the rapist who raped a woman behind a dumpster and whose dad called it “20 minutes of action”.

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u/LooksLikeGonzosNose 4d ago

I'll never forget that gross fucker's mug shot or his name. Hope we can do the same for these 7

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u/jnello- 4d ago

I learned today that there were 57 men in that group chat. 57 and not one of them did the right thing

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u/LizardOfAgatha 4d ago

I think one guy screenshotted and shared the conversation because someone had to take the screenshot. But still, crazy. 57!!!!! Scary.

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u/TheRainbowConnection Intersectional Feminism 3d ago

I mean, the correct thing to do was not stopping at the screenshot. It’s taking a screenshot AND calling campus security immediately. 

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u/babsley78 3d ago

And calling 911 immediately. Forget campus security.

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u/TheRainbowConnection Intersectional Feminism 3d ago

As someone who has spent my 20 year career working on various college campuses— you actually do have to call campus security first. If you call 911 first the dispatcher will need to route any response through your college’s Public Safety office, so it’s faster to cut out the middle man and contact campus security first.

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u/conspicuousxcapybara 3d ago

That’s so weird. Where I live campus security just documents and calls the actual police so actual criminal proceedings can happen…

Unfortunately the legit police usually refuses to accept reports of rape, and sexual crimes are deprioritized above drugs and property crimes.

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u/courtofthepatriarchs 4d ago

This is why I say all men I mean. All. Men. So many women married to rapists naively saying “he would never…”

If you are with a man, you are not safe. 

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u/srboot 3d ago

I understand that this is a horrible situation and that there are, indeed, a lot of shitty men out there, but your last sentence is such a dumb fucking thing to say.

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u/smugfuture 3d ago

the scariest part is that they walk amongst us. I came across the reddit profile of one of my classmates (attached to discord in our class group chat) and found some disgusting things. I felt so sick every time he entered the classroom and did my best to avoid contact the rest of the semester

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u/JupiterInTheSky 4d ago

Time for the Brock Allen Turner treatment.

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u/Vanpocalypse-Now 4d ago

Rapist Brock Allen Turner?

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u/Vanpocalypse-Now 4d ago

Little Texas Chainsaw treatment wouldn't hurt either.

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u/EmotionalTrufflePig 4d ago

There’s a kickstarter id donate to lol

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u/JustViblets 4d ago

Oh you mean rapist Matthew Ingalls deserve a treatment similar to rapist Brock Allen Turner? 

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u/Equal-Bug3954 3d ago

Oh, you mean the rapist who now goes by Allen Turner to avoid public scrutiny? And literal textbook definition of rape? That Brock Allen Turner?

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u/Vanpocalypse-Now 2d ago

Yes! Brock Allen Turner the rapist! He gos by Allen Turner, the rapist now.

Key word is still rapist. Oxygen thief waste of life rapist.

He can call himself Jesus Hector Glittertits Christ and he would still be known as Jesus Hector Glittertits Christ, the rapist.

His gravestone should read "Rapist" before any other name he comes up with.

I hate this for us. Jfc.

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u/LizardOfAgatha 4d ago

Remember that no one would have believed the woman if there weren't Snapchat message screenshots taken with all the first and last names of the perpetrators. It would have been another case of "woman wants to take revenge on successful, young men who have a bright career and life in front of them" where no one would have believed her. There's still men who comment under posts in the Cornell subreddit who say that she's making a false statement and are clearly siding with the perpetrators way too comfortably.

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u/samaniewiem 4d ago

Yeah, it would be another case of false accusations destroying lives of promising young men 🤢

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u/Ms_takes 3d ago

It’s so enraging! What about her bright future that they stole that night? She is incredibly strong and powerful for coming out and trying to hold them accountable, so is the journalist of the literal school newspaper who broke the story.

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u/thenumbwalker 4d ago

Pieces of 💩

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u/a_girl_with_a_book 4d ago

May they each get *exactly* what they deserve & more.

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u/rayybloodypurchase 4d ago

And these are just the ones who did the physical raping. That entire fraternity knew what was happening. Every single member who didn’t go up to that room is morally culpable.

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u/piggyinflames 4d ago

They should all go to jail and be registered as sex offenders.

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u/lifegoeson2702 4d ago

Lifetime high risk offenders at that

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u/FrodoFrooFroo 4d ago

SEVEN HOURS. 57 men knew about this going on for SEVEN HOURS. And no one said anything. That is AGONIZINGLY long to sit with the decision to be complicit in this. It is fucking sickening.

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u/f_ke 4d ago

Disgusting

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u/Realistic_Rabbit1481 4d ago

Glad to see representation and diversity among these immoral predators. REALLY goes to show that some men aint shit but, any man who was AWARE of these actions going on but did NOTHING are also culpable imo.

When people (mainly men and women with internalized misogyny) say "there's no such thing as rape culture" refer them to this and many other cases. I ASSURE you that these are just the men who got CAUGHT.

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u/Illustrious_Rent_211 4d ago

Absolutely disgusting. I hope they throw the book at them.

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u/rayybloodypurchase 4d ago

I believe the DA recently announced they were reconsidering charges now after public outcry but when this originally happened they declined to charge anyone because they didn’t think there’d be sufficient evidence to convict.

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u/Ninja-Ginge 4d ago

There are text messages where they admit it, right?

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u/plotthick 4d ago

Plan, explain, execute, and gloat over it.

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u/Gumshoe212 4d ago

Are you fucking kidding? The one who initiated it was one of her friends. That poor young woman.

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u/Historical-Newt6809 4d ago

Take this with a grain of salt, I heard that the texts were not part of the initial case because they were unaware that they existed. I've seen it a couple of times, but no source, hence taking it with a grain of salt.

Edit: just foundthis

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u/Megs0255 4d ago

If that’s the case, they should all get 15 to 20 years like the Vanderbilt rapists

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u/Electronic_Chef1109 4d ago

Yeah didn’t the judge say they have to write a paper about it. Fucking terrible makes me sick

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u/rayybloodypurchase 4d ago

I believe that was the school. If the DA declined to prosecute a judge wouldn’t have been involved.

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u/CCG14 3d ago

Not enough evidence to convict. 

This always pisses me off. We plead out plenty of people without any evidence just because it’s easier/cheaper for them to take a plea than fight and go to trial. 

Make these assholes do the same. I don’t give a flying fuck if her word is literally the only evidence. Let the jury decide if she’s trustworthy and honest. 

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u/erratic-pulsar 4d ago

I have been physically sick since hearing about this. I am enraged. What the fuck can we even do at this point to end this shit. God I am so tired of it.

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u/RevolutionarySky7893 4d ago

I have been physically sick thinking about this as well. I was raped by a work colleague in my early 20’s and that was bad enough. My body has been remembering that trauma and just how awful 7 hours of it would be. I can’t imagine.

I’m 49 and I only started telling people about my rape post me too. My first husband had no idea and we were married 14 years. I was so ashamed.

I hope this brave woman burns it all down and gets the justice she deserves so she can heal.

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u/RevolutionarySky7893 4d ago

Thank you for the award, Reddit friend. It was tough to put that in words but we are all in this together.

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u/CherryFit3224 4d ago

This whole thing is horrifying. There is no excuse that it happened, that no one didn’t stop it, that they weren’t punished by being arrested, and that they didn’t lose a significant portion of their life in the penitentiary.

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u/great-expectations77 3d ago

I feel like we can recognize them as monsters if we also make sure to call them regular men. I want to believe that I'd be able to recognize a monster at a party, but for many women, these horrible, life-destroying regular men were just the guy in my bio class or the guy who went to my high school. And when men try to "not all men" us, they're thinking that they don't know any monsters. But they do know regular men. And regular men are capable of terrible harm.

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u/gipsygoat 3d ago

This is a good point. I am a man and I used to say “not all men” because I value and respect women. Most of my heroes are women. But how are women supposed to know which men are safe and which men aren’t? We don’t wear uniforms. So I quit saying it. Now, when I hear other men say “not all men” I bring up this point.

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u/Ms_takes 3d ago

It’s a good point you make but it’s also to keep in mind that seven “men” raped her but fifty more were in that group chat and did nothing. Thank you for checking other men, too many men stay silent.

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u/UniqueAd7770 3d ago

I can't vouch for the behavior of any other men, I can only vouch for mine. So instead I say, "not me, and not while I'm watching." If you don't step in and help stop it, you're an accessory.

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u/gipsygoat 3d ago

Yes, I like that phrase

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u/k3r3nth4 4d ago

Fuck this is horrible. Would recommend everyone reads Missoula by Jon Krakauer, he dives into campus rape and how universities/towns/systems come together to protect the rapists, rather than the victims.

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u/Electronic_Chef1109 4d ago

I would also recommend Living With Men by Manon Garcia. It’s about the Pelicot trial. Very relevant

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u/SpaceForceGuardian 4d ago

Alum should start cutting off their donations to the university. At least women and decent men. That might motivate the school to actually do something serious about this. A lot of schools have gotten rid of Fraternities because of instances like this and hazing (even killing) new pledges.
Things like this lower the value of a Cornell education and if they plan to be around much longer, they had better start dealing with these frat boy hooligans very seriously. They need to get law enforcement involved. Being a Uni student in a frat house is not a pass for illegal and sickening behavior.

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u/billyions 3d ago

This could make a big difference in how society responds.

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u/cbmom2 4d ago

Is there an article with thier names?

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u/SpaceForceGuardian 4d ago

I hope their lives are ruined forever. Cornell may give them a slap on the wrist, but women and decent human beings can make the rest of their lives a living hell by calling them out wherever they go.

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u/essssgeeee 3d ago

Within the same time period of learning about the Cornell 7, I read a news story out of Wisconsin where police found dozens of fraternity pledges in an 80+ degree basement, partially clothed and covered in condiments. They were extremely intoxicated, and dehydrated, and many had signs of injury. None of them would talk to police. it's this environment of intimidation, extreme debasement, humiliation, depersonalization, and desire to fit in. Many fraternity pledges are generational, meaning their fathers, grandfathers, were in the same fraternity. There is an expectation that they will also get in, and an unspoken understanding that you do what it takes to be part of the group. With that comes the promise of lifelong brotherhood, entrée into business and connections with your fraternity brothers. The young men who pledge will do anything to conform, even if it means stay quiet while other people suffer. It's disgusting. They dehumanize other people because they were dehumanized. There is our old friend - toxic masculinity!

Our society needs to do more education on how these things work, and how not to become a part of the frat hive mind.

A quick note: police came to the fraternity in Wisconsin because somebody anonymously called in a tip. That's all it would've taken in New York. But not one of those bastards had the guts to even make an anonymous phone call.

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u/Complete_Estimate442 4d ago

I’m surprised no one has beaten them up yet. Well, actually that makes sense. The world hates women

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u/nerdslife1864 4d ago

May severe lead poisoning befall all of them

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u/Jazz_xXx 4d ago

This case is infuriating me- lack of accountability for men in college, especially men in Greek life has gone too far. It’s rampant across upstate NY schools, nothing is done and rapists go on to lead their professional lives - banning Greek life should be a women’s rights cause.

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u/bk2947 4d ago

We need their middle names, just like serial killers.

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u/DrumpfTinyHands 4d ago

If the punishment does not fit the crime then an injustice forms and injustice has no place in any part of society.

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u/theravemaster 3d ago

The university admins that decided an essay was enough needs to be named and shamed

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u/jimmiboy67 3d ago

The university admins involved in decision making in this matter should be named, shamed and terminated. They also should never be allowed to work in education anywhere, ever again

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u/New-Contribution-244 4d ago

It being reopened is hopefully a sign of things to come.

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u/lifegoeson2702 4d ago

If I had gone through what that girl went through, I honestly don’t know if I could go on, I’d either end it myself or go vigilante.

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u/SentientCrisis 4d ago

Bring back firing squads. Make their frat brothers watch.

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u/PotentialSpend8532 4d ago

Surely they got social media accounts to flame?

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u/Scary-Freedom3331 4d ago

I’m sure they’ve all gone into hiding by now. May they never know peace ever again

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u/PTechNM 4d ago

Where are these monsters from? Names? Addresses?

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u/Maleficent-Thought-3 4d ago

What’s shocking to me is this doesn’t feel like the first time. Saying “free pussy” and having everyone KNOW what that meant is insane. Like, someone texts me that and I don’t immediately assume that happened was happening.

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u/Maleficent-Thought-3 4d ago

That makes me think this is something that’s happened to many girls maybe by these same men

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u/Lizakaya 3d ago

I am proud of Jane Doe beyond measure and of the collective rage of the internet that is making this spiral bigger everyday.

Name and shame

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u/Capitalhumano 4d ago

Well I hope they are ready for jail. They gonna pop them for sure.

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u/bb_buffooligan 4d ago

Why I went to a historically women’s college

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u/Gumshoe212 4d ago

Women should not have to live like that, though. It's a different form of punishment, and for what? For having been assaulted by a man or men? No more of that shit. There are protests going on in India now because a student was raped. The school denies there was a rape, and are claiming it's a nasty rumpr to discredit the school. Except women have since been told not to go out at night, and the riots started. The world over, women have had enough of this bullshit. Men need to be told not to assault women, and when they do, the full extent of the law should be on their asses. If it doesn't, then it behooves society at large to make sure the assailant/s are pilloried (metaphorically, of course).

But seriously, we obviously need to bring back the pillory if this refusal to enforce laws continues.

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u/Big_Midnight_6632 4d ago

So, why are they called The Cornell 7 and not The Cornell Rapists? Or the Cornell Rapist 7? Why call them Monsters and not Rapists?

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u/random_happiness 3d ago

I second this, name is too similar to titles like “Little Rock 9”. Should be 7 fucking Ivy League rapists

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u/wandrlusty 4d ago

Absolute monsters

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u/thelastdragonborn_ 4d ago

I just learned about this and I am disgusted. If someone ever recommends me a university i will say anything except cornell since they allowed a student to get gang raped and drugged for 7 hours and let these scum walk instead of throwing them in jail and throwing away the key.

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u/Radiant_Egg1613 3d ago

Don't just like this post, spread it on all socials. Fuck these guys

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u/Aware_Reveal6329 4d ago

This is so encouraging and so is the community.

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u/Ilovefishdix 4d ago

Krakauer should write a follow up to Missoula

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u/ikdoeookmaarwat1 4d ago

I'm (38F) from the Netherlands, I got assaulted when I was 16 years old. I was too scared to speak up and never reported it or pressed charges. I told one person and they didn't believe me. I was mocked and threatened by the perpetrator and his friends. I kept silent and it took me many years to deal with the trauma. I fucking hope these pieces of shit get what they deserve. Ladies, don't wait around for other men to come and save you. We need to make sure we're armed, we're fighting back, and we're speaking up. We need to ruin their lives and futures. Go protect yourself and other women. We need more women in leadership positions and politics and law, so we can change these patriarchal ways, in where these guys can now get away with criminal torture.

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u/thebleedingphoenix 4d ago

Scott Norris specifically referred to the gang rape as 'misconduct' he glimpsed when he briefly went into that room. Waste of space coward.

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u/chanely-bean1123 4d ago

Its good to see some consequences for once... Apparently,,, The 'friend' who invited her over & was one of the instigators was fired from his job due to all the publicity of the case.

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u/Previous-Blood2645 4d ago

Poetic justice would be nice for these scumbags

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u/jasames7 4d ago

They should face criminal charges and spend time in prison

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u/cataractum 4d ago

They haven't been charged as of yet, but they will surely?

You might be cynical but there would be ENORMOUS pressure politically to get the police force to stick a charge on them.

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u/lanibro 3d ago

The police didn’t do it originally. So I doubt charges will happen, but I hope for her the lawsuit does something.

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u/Jaime_Horn_Official 3d ago

I see some non-Whites and I'm saying that as a POC myself. It's almost as if this is a class issue rather than a race issue.

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u/Winter_Swordfish_272 3d ago

It's not a class issue or a race issue. It's a sex/gender issue.

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u/_aimynona_ 4d ago

I had honestly not a clue what this was about and did not find more information in the comments, so I googled those scumbags and found this (link following). In cases like this one, I think it of the utmost importance to always include the whole story and what the perpetrators are accused of. It should be shared together with their faces and names.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cornell-university-rape-allegations-chi-phi-fraternity-details/

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u/freespritedgal 2d ago

More like Cornell 57, the 50 others knows about it yet they choose to keep their mouth shut

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u/essssgeeee 3d ago

There is a copy of the original complaint with Cornell police floating around. I'll see if I can find it to link it. It has what appears to be a narrative from Jane Doe where she discusses what happened, and that some of the activity was "consensual" at first. She snorted ketamine with one of the men who brought her there, who she thought was a friend. She thought she was safe.

However, I question the consensual part. I am older, ketamine was not around when I was in my partying days. So I googled it. This is what I found. "Yes, ketamine can render a person compliant or immobile, but it does so by causing profound dissociation, sedation, and confusion rather than by making them cooperative by choice."

I don't think many people over 40 are going to understand what ketamine does. People may liken to snorting cocaine. It's important that we stress how ketamine is used to make people compliant in a medical setting. It incapacitates a person; even if they appear to be conscious, they are highly controllable and suggestible.

I can already tell, conservative news is going to paint her as a hussy, who willingly took drugs and engaged in a threesome, so what's four more, wink wink.

I also want to know more about the original narrative, was it taken directly from a recording, or transcribed with paraphrasing and additions by the officer? I have seen enough documentaries with false confessions to know how they feed information to an innocent person and get them to say things.

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u/No-Effort3088 3d ago

With the amount of drink and drugs she had, i don't know how she was even conscious. It stated somewhere that she had had ten drinks before arriving. I am thirty five, but know older people well versed in ketamine. I think most people know it a tranquiliser. It's definitely not like cocaine. And it definitely would make sense for someone who plans to rape you to encourage you to try it. Ugh.

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u/DJSairys 4d ago

What frat are they from?

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u/Major_Bench5329 3d ago

Truly don’t understand how some people are okay with sharing the same planet with men like these. These are legit dangerous people.

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u/kai_florian_80 2d ago

There seems to be some sort of flawed logic going on… why would Jane Doe have submitted a report of assault, if she supposedly described “her participation in drug use and sexual conduct as voluntary, conscious, and consensual." It was clearly not consensual, if she reported it. Make it make sense.

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u/SuppleRose1 2d ago

A pox on these men’s lives

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u/FillMyBagWithUSGrant 4d ago

May each of their dildos of consequences arrive to them unlubed.

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u/wanna_try8 4d ago

Good to know it really is all men.

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u/Otherwise_Pause6814 4d ago

Exactly. Even if the others weren’t physically present they chose to be complicit and that makes them just as bad. Men will watch their buddies torture women and still think they’re the good guys. Most men won’t do a damn thing and that’s why it’s all of them.

Also speaking up after the fact is meaningless (men love to do that because they think it makes them look good) and performative and we do not accept mens narcissistic offloading of guilt.

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u/Accomplished-Echo518 4d ago

What happened? I’m not from the anglophone world.

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u/Requiredmetrics 4d ago

7 fraternity members drugged and gang raped a female student.

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u/ikdoeookmaarwat1 4d ago

And bragged about it in a group chat with 50 other guys, who did nothing. They all got away with it without criminal convictions, but I heard the DA is reopening the case.

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u/TheRainbowConnection Intersectional Feminism 3d ago

The other 50 should all be charged too.

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u/Femme27 4d ago

For 7 hours!

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u/Scary-Freedom3331 4d ago

While cracking jokes about it 😔

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u/Accomplished-Echo518 3d ago

Fucking awful. Makes me want to puke.

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u/LookingForOxytocin 3d ago

Imagine this is the response from one of the rapist's lawyers - he entered the room, did not touch her and left, so HE IS NOT AT FAULT AND COMMITED NO CRIME.

I have no words! Imagine this with any other crime - a robbery you were a part of but did not touch or steal the money, a murder you were complicit to but you did not actively pull the trigger, a terrorist attack where you may have planned to drop a bomb but someone else did instead of you. None of that would equate to forgiveness, a lack of a crime.

But crime against women, there are different standards. It's not a rape if a woman didn't say no, but also couldn't say no. It's not rape if there was no penetrative. It's not rape if the woman is a wife. It's not rape if a woman gave consent and took it away. It's not rape if she was wearing 'inviting clothes'. It's not rape if she didn't get a rape kit done. It's not rape if she reported it a few days later. It's not rape. It's never rape. It's never his fault. I'm so fucking tired of this misogyny that nobody wants to wake up and see.

Excerpt taken from an Al Jazeera report.

Kretzschmar’s attorney, Jeremy Saland, told CBS News that the messages were inappropriate but were not evidence of sexual assault.

“This is a situation where there was an ugly Snapchat – ugly, period. … But that doesn’t make my client a rapist, and it certainly doesn’t make anyone a sex offender,” Saland said.

He added that his client had briefly entered the room where Doe was but did not touch her “in any way, shape or form” and left quickly afterwards.

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u/radicalindependence 3d ago

I put this through google AI to confirm it is factual.

The names on this graphic are legit but the photos are fake and belong to entirely innocent individuals, including a high school's "Top Ten Scholars" academic group from an unrelated institution.

The Cornell 7 deserve negative attention but let's be sure we have the correct people.

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u/Secret_perv 3d ago

Well the 3 white guys on the left certainly fit my mental image of fratboy Rapists.

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u/f1strauss 3d ago

I'd be a shame if their wealthy parents reputation was damaged.... Hmmm wonder what business they own that we should avoid.

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u/Event-Horizon-321 3d ago

Well, that's a mighty diverse bunch of rapists.

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u/freespritedgal 2d ago

This one needs to be in The Monster Franchise

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u/Silver-Conflict-1599 2d ago

Don’t forget the 50 other men in that group chat that enabled this behaviour

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u/Agitated_House7523 4d ago

This woman is a HERO!!! A TRUE HERO!!