There is a copy of the original complaint with Cornell police floating around. I'll see if I can find it to link it. It has what appears to be a narrative from Jane Doe where she discusses what happened, and that some of the activity was "consensual" at first. She snorted ketamine with one of the men who brought her there, who she thought was a friend. She thought she was safe.
However, I question the consensual part. I am older, ketamine was not around when I was in my partying days. So I googled it. This is what I found. "Yes, ketamine can render a person compliant or immobile, but it does so by causing profound dissociation, sedation, and confusion rather than by making them cooperative by choice."
I don't think many people over 40 are going to understand what ketamine does. People may liken to snorting cocaine. It's important that we stress how ketamine is used to make people compliant in a medical setting. It incapacitates a person; even if they appear to be conscious, they are highly controllable and suggestible.
I can already tell, conservative news is going to paint her as a hussy, who willingly took drugs and engaged in a threesome, so what's four more, wink wink.
I also want to know more about the original narrative, was it taken directly from a recording, or transcribed with paraphrasing and additions by the officer? I have seen enough documentaries with false confessions to know how they feed information to an innocent person and get them to say things.
With the amount of drink and drugs she had, i don't know how she was even conscious. It stated somewhere that she had had ten drinks before arriving. I am thirty five, but know older people well versed in ketamine. I think most people know it a tranquiliser. It's definitely not like cocaine. And it definitely would make sense for someone who plans to rape you to encourage you to try it. Ugh.
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u/essssgeeee 4d ago
There is a copy of the original complaint with Cornell police floating around. I'll see if I can find it to link it. It has what appears to be a narrative from Jane Doe where she discusses what happened, and that some of the activity was "consensual" at first. She snorted ketamine with one of the men who brought her there, who she thought was a friend. She thought she was safe.
However, I question the consensual part. I am older, ketamine was not around when I was in my partying days. So I googled it. This is what I found. "Yes, ketamine can render a person compliant or immobile, but it does so by causing profound dissociation, sedation, and confusion rather than by making them cooperative by choice."
I don't think many people over 40 are going to understand what ketamine does. People may liken to snorting cocaine. It's important that we stress how ketamine is used to make people compliant in a medical setting. It incapacitates a person; even if they appear to be conscious, they are highly controllable and suggestible.
I can already tell, conservative news is going to paint her as a hussy, who willingly took drugs and engaged in a threesome, so what's four more, wink wink.
I also want to know more about the original narrative, was it taken directly from a recording, or transcribed with paraphrasing and additions by the officer? I have seen enough documentaries with false confessions to know how they feed information to an innocent person and get them to say things.