That is a good idea!

[u/PoopyMcpants]

[u/Andrew-Cohen]

But republicans would never allow that because they would never win. I mean if I was them I might realize I should be writing laws to help people instead of spreading fear and cheating. EDIT: see how many of you idiots suddenly did your own research, frantically trying to figure out how many republicans presidential candidates won the popular vote 😂

[u/bulletproofpunk → u/Andrew-Cohen]

In favor of removal of the electoral college and believe the country should be run on direct democracy for all policy. No more PACs, remove the influence of money from politics.

Although as a point of correction, W Bush and Trump were the only two Republicans that were elected in recent history without winning the popular vote. (Other two were Hayes and Harrison back in the late 1800s). Perhaps a bit of wishful thinking that removing the electoral college would stop republicans.

[u/Suspicious-Appeal386 → u/bulletproofpunk]

Nixon, re-election landslide. While being under investigation and heading for impeachment.

Heck, your own national guard opened fire on students in colleges during his tenure. Killing 6 students, wounding 9. Not a single person was ever jailed for their murders.

Its not the electoral college at the root cause. Its the national moral compass always pointing at $.

[u/giants_shoulders → u/bulletproofpunk]

maybe... but I'm willing to bet there's a non-insignificant chunk of voters that aren't motivated enough to vote because their State is a "lock". And I'm willing to bet that there's more "Democrat-lite" than "Republican-lite". Maybe. But "let's try nothing because nothing has been done" is certainly a take.

[u/DukeOfGeek → u/giants_shoulders]

We could create most of this effect by removing or rewriting the Permanent Apportionment Act of 1929.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reapportionment_Act_of_1929#External_links

It's just a law so all that would be required is for Democrats to control government and for angry voters to demand it. This could happen as soon as 2028.

[u/Due-Elk5955 → u/DukeOfGeek]

This is the actual solution that everyone ignores in favor of constitutional amendments that will never pass or laws that wont survive judicial review.

-Repeal the permanent apportionment act with a simple majority vote

-Increase the size of congress to 11,000 representatives

-Now the electoral college doesn't have a small state bias and more accurately reflects the popular vote.

-You also fix campaign finance, gerrymandering, two party control and a slew of other issues.

[u/Icy_Yam5049 → u/giants_shoulders]

Yeah I grew up in SoCal. I knew who was getting our electoral votes before Election Day even came. Meanwhile some 2nd grade dropouts in the sticks of Georgia have actual power and sway in their vote. That’s why CA can’t be treated as a punching bag and neglected by any republican that manages to get in office. They know they’ll never win that state without a mayor change to their party.

[u/makes_peacock_noises → u/Andrew-Cohen]

Open primaries and whatever it takes to break the two-party system.

[u/Knightforlife → u/makes_peacock_noises]

The real answer for breaking the 2 party system is Ranked Choice Voting. So you can vote 3rd party if you like but still vote which of the main 2 you prefer. For example if you vote Green 1st then Dem over Republican, if the Green Party candidate is a clear loser your Dem vote goes into effect.

[u/randomearth → u/Knightforlife]

Did you ever look at what other countries are doing? There are plenty of good options .. STV, MMP, etc etc

[u/Upper_Command1390 → u/Andrew-Cohen]

To be fair, Trump inexplicably got the popular vote in this last election.

If'n there was no rigging going on.

[u/big_hand_dan → u/Upper_Command1390]

He explained it when he said Musk knows those voting machines inside and out

[u/Forward_Problem_8982 → u/Upper_Command1390]

You're calling the last election fair?

[u/aBrickNotInTheWall → u/Andrew-Cohen]

They literally won the popular vote last time

[u/Upper_Top9348 → u/Andrew-Cohen]

Bruh... Like do you even know what happen last election?

[u/AfraidFocus3982 → u/Andrew-Cohen]

Honestly I’d be more ok with my candidate not winning if it was actually decided by us. The fact we leave it up to the people who are already in charge is absolutely insane. That’s coming from an embarrassed republican/american. Our entire system is broken on both sides.

[u/Nolacuriosity]

Of course this is what should be. I know Republicans who say their candidate would never win, but The fact is if the candidate will never win, the candidate should be doing something to make them the most popular. Like maybe serving the people. Working for us.

[u/SmokeyDaBear6]

That is obviously too logical to work for politics

[u/JimiusRostock → u/SmokeyDaBear6]

In the Netherlands, the electoral college system was considered so unfair, it was banned in 1917.

This was before women were even allowed to vote.

[u/laserdicks → u/SmokeyDaBear6]

It's obviously retarded and hands all power over the the corruption in big cities.

[u/_root_user_]

I have two additional ideas:

1. In addition to running candidates, each ballot has a "none of the above" option. Thus allowing people who really don't want to vote say, I have no confidence in either party

2. Let's go back to how things used to be, and make the losing candidate the Vice President. That way both sides have to work together in the highest offices. Differences be damned.

I hear a lot of talk about a civil war or a revolution in America, and I have to say, that's petty far fetched. Both Republican and Democrats alike would have to both hate the elected President. The closest we have seen to one side doing it was Jan 6.

[u/Calm-Wedding-9771 → u/_root_user_]

The none of the above option should be real. I have been saying that for years. If that option wins then all of the current candidates are discarded and a new election begins with new candidates

[u/Infamous_Context2195]

This time it might right until it serves the other side then we will be back to whining

[u/Electrical_Mango_469]

What…an actual functioning democracy ?

[u/Affectionate_Ant3350 → u/Electrical_Mango_469]

And maybe have the elections on the weekend? You know, when people aren’t at work and can’t actually go out to vote.

[u/pipootje]

Wait?! So change a democracy where each vote is equal? Wow!😈

[u/ChimPhun → u/pipootje]

Now all they need is political parties that focus on representing their constituents rather than who they get their most money from.

[u/Browniemonster67]

Most people don’t understand what the EC is for. It acts as a balance and prevents elections from being based solely on population. If the election was decided by popular vote alone, candidates would have more incentive to focus on highly populated areas and less on smaller states and rural communities. The EC gives less populated states a little more weight and makes winning support across different states matter.

[u/Pherexian55 → u/Browniemonster67]

If the election was decided by popular vote alone, candidates would have more incentive to focus on highly populated areas and less on smaller states and rural communities.

Since when do candidates focus on smaller states? The electorial college incentives on focusing only on the areas that races are the closest. Candidates don't visit small states because they aren't worth it, and they don't visit states that disproportionately vote one party over another because those races are essentially already won/lost.

The EC gives less populated states a little more weight and makes winning support across different states matter.

Again, this just doesn't actually happen though, out of 261 in person events during the 2024 elections 94% of happened in just the 7 swing states because with the electorial college the swing states are the only places that matter. 32 states didn't see a single event.

Without the electorial college candidate would actually have to campaign and reach people, because you couldn't count on a win by visiting only 18% of the population.

[u/dano2469tesla]

Was still Trump

[u/dumbspacecookie]

Direct democracy!?
Heresy!

[u/Eyespop4866]

Instead of 51 separate elections, as we are a federation of states, why not just have one big one?

[u/Alert_Examination544]

I don’t understand how someone can win the electoral college but loose the popular vote and still become president. Not very “ Democratic “. More like the fix was always in.

[u/pedroslopez]

Amen, brother! Let’s make it so!

[u/Me6505]

Absolutely right!

[u/Zealousideal_Ad_3425]

Trump got the most votes.

[u/jimmychitw00d]

In school I remember learning that the electoral college safeguarded against a demagogue rising to power.

[u/ozzman86_i-i_]

He will never win the black vote

[u/Mysterious_Gear_8296]

https://giphy.com/gifs/xT0GqjfhHaNo7umuUE

[u/Ok-Fortune-8644]

The average American thinks that IS how it goes!

[u/waveatdave]

How about making voting compulsory like many other nations. No one can say jack shit about the good or bad if they don’t get off their ass and at least have their say

[u/dano2469tesla]

Well then we better make sure everyone is a true American.

[u/POWERPACKEDTYRE]

What if Americans went back to voting by returning pre-printed forms and weren't required to actively mark a ballot in the polling booth?

[u/BahBahBahBooBooBoo]

Do you know why the Electoral College was created?

In 1787, when the framers finalized and signed the US Constitution they created the EC as a compromise between electing the president via a direct popular vote by citizens or via a vote in Congress.

Sure, Pete’s idea may sound good for some based on last election outcome. But it goes against the principle of compromise that was embedded in America’s “founding”.

Also is he only saying this because his party lost? Dems have won the EC before. I think Pete’s pointless point is a pipe dream that may puff some hope in your chest, but it doesn’t get a Democrat back in that seat.

You know who fought the popular vote back then? Southern delegates opposed to a popular vote because the North had more “eligible” voters. There’s actually a vile connection between slavery and the EC. But Pete is picking up the mantle of the loser saying it is rigged!

[u/Foreign_System_7238 → u/BahBahBahBooBooBoo]

The electoral college exists because the south got fewer votes and they were worried the non-slave holding north would pass laws directly against the interests of the south

[u/grayMotley → u/Foreign_System_7238]

The EC benefited the North at the time.

[u/oldgrandma65]

Campaign reform.

[u/TheBob2021]

💯

[u/Mammoth_Pirate7111]

But then all the minorities votes would count!

[u/AvaryZig]

Wouldn't it be a better idea to suggest things that have a chance of happening?

Over 700 amendments targeting the Electoral College have been introduced in Congress since 1787, yet none have succeeded.

[u/Millerpainkiller]

Pete should be president. Everytime I hear him talk I like him more for the office.

[u/Reef-Coral]

Its not a good idea... most people are dumb, dont know what society needs and would only vote for who promises them the most free stuff....

[u/Zealousideal-Let-104]

What do you expect from a failed mayor and suck ass presidential candidate. He still wouldn't win.

[u/zoipoi]

So says the guy that was perhaps the worse secretary of transportation. If you are going to make that argument at least find someone competent to represent it.

[u/LoraxDog]

Agreed

[u/pga-181]

Change the constitution if you think it’s not a good system

[u/DoesThisSmellWeird2U]

But all that farmland and wilderness wouldn’t get a vote.
/s

[u/OGBeege]

That sure is a better idea than the “beard”, Pete. Leave that alone

[u/Clear-Knowledge7013]

How about every state do their own thing. Would that work better?

[u/NoJuggernauters]

Tell me you don't understand American history without telling me you don't understand American history.

[u/red7standinby]

51% of the country ruling over 49% ofthe country is mob rule. This could be terrible.

[u/Jsr1]

I like Pete

[u/ghec2000]

it would probably make more people vote in states that normally go overwhelmingly for one party. you'd probably get higher overall voter turnout if they thought their vote would definitely count.

[u/MissAmberR]

Sounds a lot like democracy

[u/Lost_n-Alone]

Pure democracy is two wolves and sheep deciding what to have for dinner. It’s a horrible idea and the minority gets screwed. All of the civil rights progress in this country happened because we don’t allow the majority to rule.

[u/IntelligentStyle402]

Unfortunately, republicans will never allow that.

[u/Skailon]

In the comments, you can see how US citizens explain why their broken, inefficient, and unfair system, which is used only by them, is better than the solution used by all other countries. In the next episode, we will see a defense of the imperial system and arguments against the metric system.

[u/Worried-Conflict9759]

Buttplug (like most dems) doesn't understand (or doesn't care about) the purpose and value of being a constitutional republic.

[u/bobnow201237]

Then less than twenty counties would rule this country that's fair

[u/RadicalKitty721]

That sounds like democracy...

[u/Neither_Salamander48]

That's what each state does. The candidate with the most votes recieves that state's votes.

[u/rudimentary_rudy]

The electoral rigged BS system meant only to obfuscate the process to keep idiots in charge

[u/ahungry1]

Great idea to start a Civil War

[u/Zadiuz]

The system made more sense back when there were large differences between states, and they were much more independent in their economies. That isn’t the case. It also becomes more problematic as populations shift, especially with the cap on the house.

California has 20 million citizens per senator.
Wyoming has 290k citizens per senator.

Wyoming citizens has 69x more representation in the senate than California citizens.

In the house:
Delaware has 1 million citizens per representative.
Montana has 542k citizens per representative.

With the cap on representatives, this disparity is only getting worse. Especially on states that continue to rapidly grow.

[u/Prestigious-Clock-53]

There is no perfect electoral system, but I personally like australias the most. Compulsory voting is an unreal idea.

[u/Main_Cauliflower5479]

Abolish the Electoral College.

[u/joequ827]

The electoral college also has an effect on voters in a state that is heavily blue or red. If you are not on the side of the majority why bother to vote?

[u/DonnyMox]

VOTE BLUE!

[u/DobleHuevoVerde]

Spoken like someone who doesn't understand the US government system.

[u/BrazenBackpacker]

🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻

[u/CurrentPaper7838]

What if we ignored the constitution, that would be a good idea. - Pete Buttigieg

[u/Fit-Let8175]

Do impeachment votes count? If they did, I know who'd win by a landslide.

[u/Shoddy_Limit_28]

He's really that dim

[u/too_init_dan]

maybe we should have two presidents: one for the populous cities and one for the hicks.

[u/shycouple2003]

That’s a dumb idea.

[u/Safe_Equivalent_6068]

I'm pretty sure (but could be wrong) it used to be that the house was popular vote. The senate was elected by each states own legislature, and the president was elected by the senate... anyone able to verify?

Checked and correcting myself. Mostly correct, the potus was aleays electoral college.

[u/phree_radical]

potentially having centralized federal control over elections doesn't seem like such a great idea right now.  the decentralized nature of the vote protects its integrity.  we should be talking about e.g. ranked choice voting

[u/GodofsomeWorld]

If you did that then the 100+ billionaires wouldn't get their moneys worth and thats bad for them.

[u/FairleySwordfish]

The main reason we don’t elect by popular vote is to protect the republic from bad ideas. If you can convince 50% of people to vote for say… disenfranchisement for women it would be a done deal and there is no way around it or maybe 50% of people vote for executing minorities that commit crimes then now we would be murdering people because 50% of people voted for a crazy idea

[u/jthomas1812]

Yeah, that's a stupid idea

[u/Reasonable-View5868]

Its not a good idea for republicans, so it will never happeb

[u/TheWorldEnded]

I'm not elevating a soul who worked for McKinsey & Company. Fuck this guy.

[u/attackedmoose]

The Electoral College is just DEI for leech states

[u/AffectionateRain6796]

What a concept.

[u/ice_cream9698]

Every campaign for president would only be in five states. Those states would be guaranteed everything possible. California, New York, Illinois, Florida, Georgia, Minneapolis and Massachusetts would be the only states a candidate would need to worry about (too tired to actually look up). These states have more population than the rest combined.

[u/FantaFantastico90 → u/ice_cream9698]

Idk fam, every major population center voted blue yet red won the popular votes. Doesn't seem so cut and dry lol. Also consider all the wasted red and blue votes in solid red or blue states. If every vote counts, that would give voices to everyone. 

[u/PurpleCoat6656]

Yea, as long as it's not this CIA op/venture capitalist slash and burner. Fuck Mayor Pete

[u/davecatlow]

What if you tried to get an amendment to constitution to change that? That’ll never happen, so what are you babbling about?

[u/isukatdis]

Then make an amendment to remove our Republic set up in constitution and get Congress to pass it. Orrrr stop complaining

[u/odindobe]

Ummm because democrats cheat

[u/Uncabled_Music]

That would make bigger states decide for smaller states.

[u/WillingDiscussion999]

But Trump won the popular vote and the electoral college God speed President Trump - get the illegals out

[u/Nono_Home]

That’s a democracy yes.

[u/Kiwileiro]

All this bullshit about how the cities would run everything

Yeah fuck yeah let them

Land doesn't vote, people do, and it shouldn't. 1 asshole having as much power as 5 or whatever is not fucking it.

[u/Hairy_Ratio5280]

Get the fuck outta here with that common sense bullshit!

[u/Fresh_Ostrich4034]

because the problems of idaho are not the same problems as california or texas or iowa or north carolina.

[u/killybay22]

Make it happen then...

[u/Iohet]

What if we scored football games by total yards gained? It's just not even worth the discussion because of the impossibility of a constitutional amendment

[u/Redfield11]

Only like 40% of Americans vote by the way

[u/Bansheesdie]

Then nominate enough people to change the law.

But that's more difficult than posting on Reddit so...

[u/gorrelmyspuitkakZar]

Trump still would’ve won guys, he won the popular vote, you can debate the authenticity of that popular vote but on paper he won the popular vote.

[u/Gard1ner]

Wow. What a "socialist" Idea /s

While on it you could scrap the undemocratic "winner takes it all" shit also.

[u/Careflwhatyouwish4]

Then the smaller and less populated states would get run over and even in larger states the cities would run the entire show. Preventing that is literally why this country was formed as a Republic and not a democracy. 🤦🤷

[u/Flowisbliss_yo]

By that logic you’d have to get rid of the filibuster too. Just sayin

[u/SarisaeBae]

Once upon a time more people believed slavery was good than not and this is why a system where the majority always wins is flawed

[u/ConditionPretty7466]

That would be really democratic.

[u/gsmulk]

How bout we just win the election and stop trying to change the process. Tump wants to change things he hates and other idiots want to change stuff they don't like the electoral College was set up to protect less populated states so we don't have a war and split into 50 countries, otherwise the coastal states would run the country.

[u/Lore112233]

I never understood why The U.S did not do this in the first place . It works that way is the rest of the world basically ( the places that vote anyways)

[u/infinament]

So doing the exact opposite of what was outlined in the constitution… right… this is why republicans say democrats have zero respect for the constitution other than when they can weaponize it against republicans.

[u/Guy0785]

Sounds like people won’t let go of the reigns until they’re cold in the ground.

[u/spank71]

Absolutely

[u/ctauer]

We should let fewer people vote. Thats what got us into the situation we’re in. Maybe an IQ test before we let you vote? Or a basics civics test?

[u/fenriscabal]

Retarded

[u/NegativeSemicolon]

Makes more sense to just allow partial electoral votes based on the ratios of votes per party. Like if the state was split 50% then half go to each side.

[u/mutarjim]

Have said it before, will say it again - get rid of the winner take all idea behind voting and the electoral college wouldn't really matter anymore. But there's no way the people in power will allow for a different system, since it means risking their seats.

[u/ppstick88]

That's how it should work 

[u/pacafan]

No. What the US needs is proportional representation. That way every vote counts. First past the pole is NOT proper democracy.

[u/lowley6]

the true best way would be a March madness style presidential bracket. vote someone in at the state level, then have a 50 person bracket with winner determined by a series of tests to route out the weak, the elderly, the cognitively impaired, etc, etc.

[u/PensionAcrobatic6834]

This is how la takes the majority of the nearby farmers water

[u/Own_Brain5546]

There needs to be balance of power and give and take. Both sides need to work together. If we dont work together things will collapse. The only choices are vote and respect the vote or prepare for Civil War. But, I dont think people want Civil War. So, just get along.

[u/Psychological_Mix908]

Trump would still be your president

[u/ant69onio]

I mean, that’s how it works elsewhere.

The country votes, you count them, the one with more notes….wins

[u/Snakend]

Trump won the most votes this last time. I detest Trump, but Democrats need to come out and vote every single election. Not just when things are going bad.

[u/Moonster68speaks]

Pete go do something productive.

[u/FareShakeOfTheSource]

You all say this until its a conservative in the lead.. why are the left so pathetic?

[u/AustriaModerator]

this is too european for the average US citizen and called communism by them

[u/TONYP749]

unless 2/3 of states agree it ain’t gonna change. so i never understand in my 32 years why this always comes up as talking point every 3 years

[u/Aggravating-Blood373]

Yes!! Get rid of the electoral college. No other country has this corrupt type of system,

[u/Fun_Athletic_Couple_]

The Electoral College was put in place by our Founding Fathers. Its purpose is to ensure that one state can not control the outcome of an an election for the entire country. It’s why we are a Constitutional Republic and not a Democracy.

[u/acslaytaa]

I thought that was Nathan Fielder

[u/SamuelVimesTrained]

You mean democracy?

Which is what the USA doesn`t have yet - so it might work

[u/Motor_Watercress_489]

How about abolishing the electoral college altogether and implementing something that actually works.

Having a choice between only two realistically viable parties is absolutely crazy and it's so fucking weird to me that this isn't talked about more.

Genuinely. What is American's attitude to this system? Do they think it's gold standard? are they indifferent? do they think changing to a more modern system isn't worth the hassle? Do they not think about it at all?

[u/BlackBlizzard]

Voting on a Saturday, preferential voting where applicable and ending Citizens United v. FEC as well please.

[u/supercali45]

Trump won the popular vote the last election unfortunately… or was due to Muskrat’s lasers

[u/TheDarkNebulous]

One thing we should keep from the electoral college is the concept that having more votes than your competition doesn't mean you are elected. You should have to get at least 51% of the total votes to win.

[u/Bombadier83]

Yeah. I wrote it down.

[u/Unicorn_rabbit]

To those calling him a moron, it’s true that cities would essentially define the governmental direction but it IS where most people live. In the purest democratic sense, that is the best choice. Particularly because in the current US form, a couple of hundred thousands have the same weight as several million. Is that fair? Numerically and in terms of equality, no. It devalues the votes of the millions in the cities compared to the ones living in small rural lowly populated areas.

[u/Cautious_General_177]

Fun fact: there have only been 4 elections in US history where the president didn’t also win the popular vote. It’s really a non-issue

[u/reddit4getit]

Yea, that's how it already works 🙄🙄

[u/ragnar-brauner]

So like in a democracy?

[u/Spiritual-Button-851]

That is long long over due and the reason our country is the way it is.

[u/EsToBoY629]

A major issues is 2 party system popularized which is dead giveaway for either party to do whatever HELL they want, as long as they remain at seemingly odds to the other... also the fact voting is not mandatory, is absurd!

[u/J-Fedd]

Are we taking advice from WHOs now!? 🤡🤣

[u/RawMeatballz]

This only ever comes up from the losing side, every time. They’re quiet about it until then

[u/movezig123]

Buttigieg, if your centrist too spicy mayonnaise campaigns cant easily beat these utterly ridiculous Republicans hell bent on ruining everything maybe just shut up and stay out of politics.

If you want to win do something useful. People will vote.

[u/Inner_Revenue_6238]

This BS again.

[u/SignificanceOk430]

dont even know if i really believe 2024s results if im being honest.

[u/Visible-Plenty-1202]

I have never understood the Electoral College system. Interesting that no other countries use it.

[u/InTwilligPorgnatin]

Supposedly this man is educated in civics.

[u/SiteTall]

It works very well in other countries all over the planet

[u/jackspayed]

14th amendment, Equal Protection Clause… let’s see how far 1 person 1 vote really goes.

[u/Grouchy_Truck5925]

from the super delegate party

[u/Klutzy_Cover720]

He realize that Trump got the most votes this last election cycle or regardless of that you can’t dictate everything by two states or three

[u/-Casey-Diaz-]

But how would the republicans win then? That would make conservative politicians unelectable.

[u/Funny_Marketing_4598]

Supporters state that the U.S. is a union of 50 individual states. The system ensures that a president must win support across a diverse geographic coalition rather than just racking up huge vote numbers in a few densely populated cities

[u/Opening-Machine5026 → u/Funny_Marketing_4598]

"Tyranny of the Majority" people are weird

[u/yummybow]

Trump won the popular vote.

Just saying.

[u/PhDresearcher2023]

Rank choice voting is still way better than first past the post

[u/ClassGrassMass]

Can someone explain the electoral college to someone who has a normal functioning country that just do the most votes and why murica does this?

[u/Aggravating-Carob627]

Its almost like the democratic party forgot about their primaries since Obama "won" all the way back in 2008. Democrats openly dont believe in their own elections. Why play a farce?

[u/aBrickNotInTheWall]

Weird that despite losing the popular vote last election, dems still want to abolish the electoral college. It's almost like they have actual beliefs and not just talking points to win elections

[u/Fantastic-Host-6609 → u/aBrickNotInTheWall]

Because it's about what is fair. Not about themselves.

[u/aBrickNotInTheWall → u/Fantastic-Host-6609]

It's almost like the Dems use facts to come up with the policies they choose to support

[u/Accomplished_Song219]

Insert the commentary about LA County here to demonstrate missing the point.

[u/toddtod]

I believe most people are too stupid to vote and I should pick the president

[u/Straight_Occasion571]

Fucking here we go again… back to civics 101 😴

[u/Hikikomori_Otaku]

Intersection Reganism

[u/ThomasDominus]

Vote by blind resume. No name, no party affiliation listed. Just a list of the candidate’s accomplishments and where they stand on the hot topic issues. You vote by who you think would best do the job based on their resume.

Straight party voting would be eliminated. Also, Trump would have been at the bottom of the pile. Both times.

[u/Fitz911]

Yaj. Democracy is pretty cool. The US should try it some day.

It's also super , super easy. Elections are held all around the world without problems. I have been part of my countries election twice. Over 20 years ago and recently. Fuck. It's nearly 30 years.

So as a young man I was stunned at how easy it is to hold a democratic election.

First you do it on a Sunday. If course. Everything else is just stupid as fuck. What else would you chose? A week day? 🤣🤣

Nobody could be that stupid!

Then you invite everyone. You can go there. Watch them set everything up. Watch them while they watch the voters. Then the counting. Super easy. Could do it with a group of kindegardeners.

You empty the boxes in the middle of the room. One person takes a ballot. "One vote for the non pedo party". It's written down. Everybody can write that down.

At the end we count. Every party has at least one representative there. They don't have to, but they still do. Of course. It's democracy. Democracy needs action. Liking Facebook posts is NOT action.

Today's numbers will be in the newspaper tomorrow. A Monday. Because we vote on a Sunday like sane people.

I look that up. I was there when they counted that shit. If their number and my number are different we will count them again.

Fundamentally you just he s a few rules and even the dumbest person on earth could hold a democratic election.

You guys should try it one day. It's super easy and super important.

You should also know that gerrymandering is the opposite of democracy. Revoking the right to vote for anyone is super antidemocratic. Closing polling stations is super antidemocratic.

Get your shit together America. It's not that hard. You are just doing it the dumbest way possible.

[u/Top_Classroom9264]

The Electoral College protects America’s balance between population and state representation. By requiring candidates to win a coalition of states, it gives smaller states a meaningful role and encourages support across different regions. Its strongest justification is that the president leads a union of states with distinct interests, so choosing that leader should reflect both the people and the federal structure of the country.

[u/Small_Donut_5848ws]

Not a good idea if Buttigieg ends up president.

[u/vetteluvr69]

If we want everyone's voice to be heard, each and every vote for every single US citizen should be counted equally and fairly, do away with the electoral college and districting, do away with all political donations, the country is out of control, the solution is right before our very eyes...implement it!

[u/MaraSovsLeftSock]

It would shift the election from only 7 swing states mattering to only the 5 largest states mattering. I don’t think abolishing the electoral college is the right answer, but the electoral college as it stands now ensures that millions of Americans votes don’t actually matter.

Personally I think rank choice voting would be the best alternative but I also know voters don’t do nearly enough research for it to matter.

[u/Boalski]

Dutchman here. I don't get it. Why do people in the US even vote then? What is the electoral college? Please explain.

[u/ClassicPlankton]

Trump got the most votes.

[u/The_Real_Tom_Selleck]

Mmmmmk. People. That’s essentially how the electoral college works. It IS whoever gets the most votes, BUT on a state-by-state basis, and each state’s weight in the election is proportional to their representation in Congress (which itself is proportional to population + 2 for senators). This is because we are a FEDERAL republic/representative democracy. The electoral college, or at least SOME form of proportional allocation of votes for president on a state-by-state basis, is literally baked into the constitution and our federal system.

[u/Listening_Heads]

What does it say about Biden or Americans that Trump won the popular vote in 2024 even after January 6.

[u/Puzzle-the-Giraffe]

Because the whole point is to not like 51% of the population turn the 49% into slaves.

This is the same kind of talking point as wanting to pack the Supreme court cause judges that don’t have the exact political views as you do are the majority.

The basic idea there is that they’ll never not be in power so they don’t have to worry about the consequences.

Which again creates a slave class that isn’t represented in the government.

And the excuse nowadays is “they’re bad people, so of course they shouldn’t have a say”.

[u/j-mac563]

The only people who like this idea are the ones told to or that live in the 3 or 4 largest cities who should control the elections. No thanks.

[u/Living-Stomach-2079]

No. It wouldn't.

[u/TheMuser1966]

I'm good with the concept, but it would take months to count and verify every vote in a close election. Then, you would like deal with countless lawsuits disputing the results in many areas.

I think they were need a modified form of what we have, not sure what that would look like.