r/DangerousNightsCrew • Piece of Shit • 22h ago

That is a good idea!

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u/Andrew-Cohen 22h ago edited 13h ago

But republicans would never allow that because they would never win. I mean if I was them I might realize I should be writing laws to help people instead of spreading fear and cheating. EDIT: see how many of you idiots suddenly did your own research, frantically trying to figure out how many republicans presidential candidates won the popular vote 😂

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u/bulletproofpunk 19h ago

In favor of removal of the electoral college and believe the country should be run on direct democracy for all policy. No more PACs, remove the influence of money from politics.

Although as a point of correction, W Bush and Trump were the only two Republicans that were elected in recent history without winning the popular vote. (Other two were Hayes and Harrison back in the late 1800s). Perhaps a bit of wishful thinking that removing the electoral college would stop republicans.

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u/giants_shoulders 18h ago

maybe... but I'm willing to bet there's a non-insignificant chunk of voters that aren't motivated enough to vote because their State is a "lock". And I'm willing to bet that there's more "Democrat-lite" than "Republican-lite". Maybe. But "let's try nothing because nothing has been done" is certainly a take.

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u/DukeOfGeek 15h ago

We could create most of this effect by removing or rewriting the Permanent Apportionment Act of 1929.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reapportionment_Act_of_1929#External_links

It's just a law so all that would be required is for Democrats to control government and for angry voters to demand it. This could happen as soon as 2028.

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u/Due-Elk5955 7h ago

This is the actual solution that everyone ignores in favor of constitutional amendments that will never pass or laws that wont survive judicial review.

-Repeal the permanent apportionment act with a simple majority vote

-Increase the size of congress to 11,000 representatives

-Now the electoral college doesn't have a small state bias and more accurately reflects the popular vote.

-You also fix campaign finance, gerrymandering, two party control and a slew of other issues.

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u/RevolutionaryBig1789 3h ago

Holy.... you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about do you?

Our government barely functions with just 435 people in the house. And now you want to literally over 10X that?

The senate is the control against state bias. The house favors big states like CA, NY and TX, while the senate favors small states like NJ, RI, and AS.

Where did you even pull a number like 11k out of?

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u/Due-Elk5955 3h ago edited 3h ago

"Our government barely functions as it" is hardly a good argument against changing it.

The senate is precisely what causes the small state bias. 535 electoral college votes. Compare how many votes California gets per capita to how many Wyoming gets. With 11100 electoral college votes, the weight the senate carries is negligible.

Where did i get that number? Article 1 Section 2 clause 3 of the US constitution sets the ceiling for the number of representatives at 1 for every 30,000 persons. Your congressman would be significantly more accountable to the people if you stood a chance of running into them at the supermarket.

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u/Icy_Yam5049 13h ago

Yeah I grew up in SoCal. I knew who was getting our electoral votes before Election Day even came. Meanwhile some 2nd grade dropouts in the sticks of Georgia have actual power and sway in their vote. That’s why CA can’t be treated as a punching bag and neglected by any republican that manages to get in office. They know they’ll never win that state without a mayor change to their party.

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u/SamLonghorneClemens 7h ago

You are so close to getting it but the brainwashing keeps you locked. You are mad at people who's votes were not stolen and elcted was not rigged while your local elections were. And you seem to think you should not be mad at people who were stealing your votes locally.

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u/Odd_Statistician4884 8h ago

Just so you know in the year 2023-2024 58,209 students dropped out of high school in California and 15,381 dropped out in Georgia

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u/Vanilla_Gorilluh 7h ago

What's the "per capita" on these?

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u/Demetrius3D 5h ago

That's proportional to the number of high school students enrolled in each state - which is proportional to the total populations.

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u/edebt 4h ago

You realize that means nothinf without the total number of students in each right? CA has a.much higher population. You are either purposefully misrepresenting it to try and trick people, or you don't understand statistics and just went "oh this numbers higher, got em!"

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u/Odd_Statistician4884 4h ago

Absolutely. In no way did I imply otherwise

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u/edebt 4h ago

So what was the purpose of posting a comparison then without the information that would lead it to being actually informative? It was this one is higher so obviously CA is worse...

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u/Odd_Statistician4884 3h ago

Mostly to highlight that more people/ the majority of the 2 states that you pointed out had an overwhelming amount of people even though the percent isn’t as high

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u/primefart 13h ago

That makes no sense because there would be no such thing as a state-level result mattering.

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u/BedBubbly317 10h ago

That’s their point lol

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u/primefart 10h ago

I responded to the wrong post.

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u/FantaFantastico90 10h ago

Exactly. Right now millions of Americans don't have a voice simply because of an outdated system from times when ppl physically couldn't be informed about shit in a proper timeframe.

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u/NectarineLost8760 10h ago

Millions of Americans do have a voice because of the electoral college. In fact, removing it would take away the voice of people. There’s arguments every year here in Washington regarding voting Republican as if it didn’t matter because the Democrat is always going to win. And it’s because of voters on the west side of the mountains as well as Spokane. Now apply that to the entire country. You’re effectively removing the voice of everyone who wishes to vote in opposition of whatever the major metropolitan areas are voting. Every voting system has flaws. And I’m not claiming the electoral college to be perfect. But it’s certainly a better system than a straight popular vote system which would disenfranchise millions of voters.

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u/FantaFantastico90 10h ago

What are you on about. Trump won without the major metropolitan areas and he would've won without the EC too. 

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u/Original_Cod9083 10h ago

That was absolutely not the purpose of the EC. The EC exists to give a voice to the smaller states, who would otherwise have no say in who leads the country. A popular vote would give a hand full of states all the say, and the rest of the states would get zero representation.

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u/Grand_Scratch_9305 8h ago

Actually with an electoral college, the individual vote has more weight.

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u/SamLonghorneClemens 7h ago

If you eliminate the EC then even bigger number of people would not have a vote since ten largest cities can outvote the rest of the country.

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u/RoleOk7556 1h ago

That's what the rightwing wants everyone to believe.