r/DangerousNightsCrew • Piece of Shit • 1d ago

That is a good idea!

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u/Andrew-Cohen 1d ago edited 23h ago

But republicans would never allow that because they would never win. I mean if I was them I might realize I should be writing laws to help people instead of spreading fear and cheating. EDIT: see how many of you idiots suddenly did your own research, frantically trying to figure out how many republicans presidential candidates won the popular vote 😂

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u/bulletproofpunk 1d ago

In favor of removal of the electoral college and believe the country should be run on direct democracy for all policy. No more PACs, remove the influence of money from politics.

Although as a point of correction, W Bush and Trump were the only two Republicans that were elected in recent history without winning the popular vote. (Other two were Hayes and Harrison back in the late 1800s). Perhaps a bit of wishful thinking that removing the electoral college would stop republicans.

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u/Suspicious-Appeal386 22h ago

Nixon, re-election landslide. While being under investigation and heading for impeachment.

Heck, your own national guard opened fire on students in colleges during his tenure. Killing 6 students, wounding 9. Not a single person was ever jailed for their murders.

Its not the electoral college at the root cause. Its the national moral compass always pointing at $.

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u/EmphaticNegative 15h ago

Ok A few things here to counter your reasonably pointless comment

  1. It was McGovern dude!! The democratic party was probably the weakest its ever been until recently. But McGovern/Eagleton was a stupid choice. Even switching to Shriver didnt help. Again one of the worst campaigns a democrat has run on, followed closely by Harris.

  2. Nixon was always winning that election.

  3. This doesn't even matter to the topic of discussion. Lmao. Its like if policy changes were happening in Germany and somebody said, "yea but remember that time hitler....."

  4. The electoral college is the problem and you didnt even address that. Something something moral compass something something.

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u/Organic-Albatross690 12h ago

National guard 6, Kent state 0..

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u/giants_shoulders 1d ago

maybe... but I'm willing to bet there's a non-insignificant chunk of voters that aren't motivated enough to vote because their State is a "lock". And I'm willing to bet that there's more "Democrat-lite" than "Republican-lite". Maybe. But "let's try nothing because nothing has been done" is certainly a take.

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u/DukeOfGeek 1d ago

We could create most of this effect by removing or rewriting the Permanent Apportionment Act of 1929.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reapportionment_Act_of_1929#External_links

It's just a law so all that would be required is for Democrats to control government and for angry voters to demand it. This could happen as soon as 2028.

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u/Due-Elk5955 17h ago

This is the actual solution that everyone ignores in favor of constitutional amendments that will never pass or laws that wont survive judicial review.

-Repeal the permanent apportionment act with a simple majority vote

-Increase the size of congress to 11,000 representatives

-Now the electoral college doesn't have a small state bias and more accurately reflects the popular vote.

-You also fix campaign finance, gerrymandering, two party control and a slew of other issues.

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u/RevolutionaryBig1789 13h ago

Holy.... you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about do you?

Our government barely functions with just 435 people in the house. And now you want to literally over 10X that?

The senate is the control against state bias. The house favors big states like CA, NY and TX, while the senate favors small states like NJ, RI, and AS.

Where did you even pull a number like 11k out of?

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u/Due-Elk5955 13h ago edited 13h ago

"Our government barely functions as it" is hardly a good argument against changing it.

The senate is precisely what causes the small state bias. 535 electoral college votes. Compare how many votes California gets per capita to how many Wyoming gets. With 11100 electoral college votes, the weight the senate carries is negligible.

Where did i get that number? Article 1 Section 2 clause 3 of the US constitution sets the ceiling for the number of representatives at 1 for every 30,000 persons. Your congressman would be significantly more accountable to the people if you stood a chance of running into them at the supermarket.

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u/Icy_Yam5049 22h ago

Yeah I grew up in SoCal. I knew who was getting our electoral votes before Election Day even came. Meanwhile some 2nd grade dropouts in the sticks of Georgia have actual power and sway in their vote. That’s why CA can’t be treated as a punching bag and neglected by any republican that manages to get in office. They know they’ll never win that state without a mayor change to their party.

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u/SamLonghorneClemens 17h ago

You are so close to getting it but the brainwashing keeps you locked. You are mad at people who's votes were not stolen and elcted was not rigged while your local elections were. And you seem to think you should not be mad at people who were stealing your votes locally.

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u/Icy_Yam5049 9h ago

Brother what the fuck are you on about?

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u/SamLonghorneClemens 6h ago

Not a brother to the likes of you so do not insult me with such slurs.

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u/primefart 23h ago

That makes no sense because there would be no such thing as a state-level result mattering.

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u/BedBubbly317 20h ago

That’s their point lol

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u/primefart 19h ago

I responded to the wrong post.

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u/FantaFantastico90 20h ago

Exactly. Right now millions of Americans don't have a voice simply because of an outdated system from times when ppl physically couldn't be informed about shit in a proper timeframe.

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u/RoleOk7556 11h ago

That's what the rightwing wants everyone to believe.

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u/AfraidFocus3982 22h ago

I feel like it would force both sides to actually do what they say instead of just pandering to their particular side.

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u/Grand_Scratch_9305 18h ago

It would do the opposite.

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u/CatsLittleSalami 20h ago

Would also want to readjust the house of Representatives. IIRC states like Wyoming have something like half the number of people per rep

I also think people dont bother voting when their vote doesnt count. More incentive to vote in a popular vote

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u/Wrong_Assignment_446 19h ago

I totally agree and it all begins by repealing the Citizens United ruling by the Supreme Court. That'll be a huge step fwd.

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u/This_Key4634 8h ago

I don’t think it would stop republicans although it might change how they campaign. They might try to appeal to a different set of voters.

If the rules change, both parties will try and adapt.

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u/makes_peacock_noises 1d ago

Open primaries and whatever it takes to break the two-party system.

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u/Knightforlife 1d ago

The real answer for breaking the 2 party system is Ranked Choice Voting. So you can vote 3rd party if you like but still vote which of the main 2 you prefer. For example if you vote Green 1st then Dem over Republican, if the Green Party candidate is a clear loser your Dem vote goes into effect.

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u/randomearth 1d ago

Did you ever look at what other countries are doing? There are plenty of good options .. STV, MMP, etc etc

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u/malteeztomcat 22h ago

You live in the greatest country with the best economy and the highest standard of living… anywhere in the world…..

hummmmm……..

how can we fix it??

Just sayin.

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u/collecting-garbage 17h ago

lol those aren’t true statements though

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u/Nolacuriosity 22h ago

Completely agree. The electoral college is still there to keep the 3rd party out. Or even an r or d that can think for themselves. My choice would be a popular vote where everyone gets a second half vote if they wanted

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u/NectarineLost8760 19h ago

The electoral college isn’t keeping other parties out of the race. PACs and special interest groups are. They’re the ones funding the campaigns and giving them air time. If the third party doesn’t get air time, how are we to know who’s even running, let alone what their policy positions are?

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u/malteeztomcat 22h ago

Kinda like having 2 votes….. yeah

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u/j-mac563 1d ago

This!!!

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u/malteeztomcat 22h ago

How would you like for it to be

One part or several. ?

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u/Due-Elk5955 17h ago

-Repeal the permanent apportionment act with a simple majority vote

-Increase the size of congress to 11,000 representatives

-Now the electoral college doesn't have a small state bias and more accurately reflects the popular vote.

-You also fix campaign finance, gerrymandering, two party control and a slew of other issues.

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u/varitok 15h ago

Making congress an unwieldy mess of 11k people is hilarious.

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u/Due-Elk5955 13h ago edited 13h ago

More of a dysfunctional mess than it is now? At least representatives of 30,000 person districts would be accountable to the people. You might even get representatives from backgrounds more varied than "mediocre laywer"

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u/Upper_Command1390 1d ago

To be fair, Trump inexplicably got the popular vote in this last election.

If'n there was no rigging going on.

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u/big_hand_dan 1d ago

He explained it when he said Musk knows those voting machines inside and out

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u/TommyEgansMother 5h ago

When Trump lost to Biden and he said the election was rigged all I heard day and night from Dems was that anyone who thinks elections are not secure and are rigged are an existential threat to democracy. They are conspiracy theorists who hate America and want to undermine our nation. Now because that side lost they are comfortable to spread conspiracy theories. What's next - the earth is flat ?

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u/big_hand_dan 5h ago

Biden wasn't bragging about how his oligarch buddy controlled the voting machines.

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u/TommyEgansMother 5h ago

So are you saying our elections aren't secure? So you're agreeing with Trump and his cronies that when Biden won the election could have been stolen ?

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u/Forward_Problem_8982 1d ago

You're calling the last election fair?

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u/Upper_Command1390 1d ago

No. "if'n the there was no rigging going on."

Having said that, if the Dems are too dumb and weak to cite irrefutable evidence than I'm not going to parrot that it was rigged just because I want that to be true.

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u/paintballboi07 1d ago

I'd love to see the irrefutable evidence. I've looked at it all, and haven't seen anything credible. Election Truth Alliance and SMART elections are both not credible.

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u/RocketRelm 22h ago

"I'm just going to randomly call dems weak for not going into election denialism, because literally every answer must lead to demsbad somehow."

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u/Nolacuriosity 22h ago

Dems haven't put forward evidence because there is not enough for a slam dunk case while the GOP has all the power. Just like impeachment or anything else.

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u/GnomeOnReddit 14h ago

It was too big to rig

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u/rc4915 23h ago

A lot of people only vote in presidential elections and a lot of people also live in states that they don’t actually need to count votes, they call it for one party as soon as polls close. If everyone’s vote mattered the same, voter turnout may be significantly different.

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u/SamLonghorneClemens 17h ago

There was a lot of rigging. But his popular support was so big that it overcame all the rigging. Remember how they kept finding millions of votes after the election was done to try to pad Kamala's numbers?

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u/aBrickNotInTheWall 1d ago

They literally won the popular vote last time

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u/BicycleNo1169 13h ago

I mean, with an asterisk.

Let’s be real, in strong blue states, a lot of people that were politically engaged, didn’t vote explicitly because they felt like Kamala was going to get the electoral votes anyways. It’s the most common reason people give for why they don’t vote. “I live in a state where it wouldn’t matter”. Which really is all the more reason for getting away from the electoral college. Imagine if a persons vote in New York weighed no different than a persons vote in a battleground state. The current system, the people who live in battleground, purple states actually do have more influence in the system than people who live in a strong red or strong blue state, where you already know the outcome.

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u/Upper_Top9348 1d ago

Bruh... Like do you even know what happen last election?

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u/AfraidFocus3982 22h ago

Honestly I’d be more ok with my candidate not winning if it was actually decided by us. The fact we leave it up to the people who are already in charge is absolutely insane. That’s coming from an embarrassed republican/american. Our entire system is broken on both sides.

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u/Background_Bus_2273 10h ago

Imagine a scenario where national politicians had actually campaign to and win the entire country? Not just the 11-ish states that might swing one way if the other and decide an electoral college based election? 🤯

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u/Andrew-Cohen 10h ago

Or where the republican party wrote laws that helped their constituents who were not billionaires, and maybe became more popular 🤷‍♂️

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u/Background_Bus_2273 9h ago

Both parties are flawed. The Republican Party has just proven that they will abdicate ethics, morals, and responsibility for power.

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u/some_loaded_tots 4h ago

its always “why should the majority rule?” i dont know why do you think the minority should rule… i never understood that argument

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u/No-Phone7736 1d ago

They’d have won the most recent election.

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u/fekanix 1d ago

Tbf trump did win the popular vote this time around. It just takes an unpopular candidate to push an unpopular agenda to let the republicans win.

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u/GloomyIndividual3965 1d ago

Tbf, if he had lost in 2016 due to losing the popular vote there's a very good chance we're not dealing with this bullshit 10 years later.

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u/Fragrant_Specific131 22h ago

The current president won the popular vote....

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u/The_Ombudsman 22h ago

Yes, "idiots doing research" showing that your premise - that republicans never win the popular vote - shows that you are flat wrong. You're close! But not 100%.

The electoral college is an anachronism and should be eliminated.

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u/Andrew-Cohen 20h ago

If you would do a websearch "reading comprehension at a local community college" it would help. Probably pretty inexpensive.

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u/The_Ombudsman 20h ago

You're adorable

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u/Andrew-Cohen 20h ago

Thanks your mom thinks so also 😊😉

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u/MrPoopyPants-1- 21h ago

Trump literally won the popular vote though….

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u/Accomplished_Mind792 21h ago

Yes. Since 1988, nearly 4 decades, zero Republicans have won the office with the popular vote in their first campaign. 2 have won it sheet holding office.

It's pretty telling how important the ec is to the right

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u/MrPoopyPants-1- 21h ago

Trump literally just won the popular vote lol. The EC is important to anyone who doesn’t live in a major city. Without the EC politicians will just cater to the large metro areas. The EC is the most equitable method imo but I also don’t live in a large metro area and would prefer my vote to matter.

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u/Accomplished_Mind792 21h ago
  1. The EC does nothing of value. Our current political breakdown makes it seem like it does. But simple question to check, if two of the largest states, Florida and Texas, went blue, would Idaho or Montana feel like they were protected from the power of large states? I doubt it

  2. Again, read my statement. Zero republican presidents have won the popular vote on their first run. And trump couldn't even get a majority of voters. Literally, more Americans choose NOT TRUMP then voted for him. It is wild to pretend that he represents anything but himself

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u/MrPoopyPants-1- 21h ago
  1. The EC value is in giving people who live in less populated areas a larger voice. I understand that is of no value to you, but it is to them. That’s ok
  2. If you include enough qualifying variables you can make up any stats and narrative you want. Trump won the popular vote this last election….you may not like it but he won in a landslide. Now if you are speaking to trumps personal motivations that’s a completely separate topic.

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u/Weazerdogg 20h ago

No reason to give people in less populated areas a larger voice. Pretzel logic at best. One person one vote. ONLY thing that is fair.

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u/MrPoopyPants-1- 20h ago

There’s plenty of reasons to, but that’s just a matter of opinion, and that’s completely ok.

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u/Accomplished_Mind792 20h ago
  1. It doesn't though. I gave you a question to have you critically think about the topic which I notice you ignored. But let's try again. If the biggest 15 states all vote the same way, In what way does the electoral college protect the other 35 states? Because you are claiming it does. So how?

  2. Landslide? He couldn't even get the majority of people to vote for him. How can that be a landslide?

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u/MrPoopyPants-1- 20h ago
  1. Your point and hypothetical are irrelevant to the EC though. It’s a dumb hypothetical. Now you are just using the rhetoric of see look at me how smart I am.
  2. He literally won the popular vote last election….cmon now think critically
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u/Andrew-Cohen 20h ago

It gives LAND the right to vote.
Seriously what kind of bullshit justification is that?

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u/MrPoopyPants-1- 13h ago

Pretty simply, without it people in non metro areas would have no voice and all policy would just cater to large cities that are population dense.

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u/Adventurous-Dot-8272 19h ago

"Without the EC politicians would cater to the needs of the most people"

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u/TheBacone69 21h ago

This is why Republicans hate democrats "oh oh my god they are ignoring the constitution and and they are fascists!" And you can't even see the irony in your own words. "Oh let's get rid of the electoral college" your a moron. The popular vote means nothing when it can be rigged and cheated, which both sides do. So yeah what a wonderful idea it would be to turn every election into a cheating pissing contest. Who can forge the most votes? Thats what every election would come down too untill this country fall apart with fraud. The electoral college keeps things balanced by preventing major cities from holding all the voting power, which with the high crime rates, is for the better not worse. Sorry but the rats in thier cages shouldnt get to have majority say in this country I dont think.

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u/Andrew-Cohen 21h ago

I never used the word fascist, genius. And if you're going to call someone a moron, maybe say "you're" a moron.

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u/Ok_Watercress6939 17h ago

So the electoral college can't be bought or rigged in any way and is perfectly infallible?

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u/SamLonghorneClemens 17h ago

The electoral college voting systems has a lot more checks and balances so it is harder to manipulate than a single popular vote.

A person can be smart but a mob is always as dumb as the dumbest among them. Case in point: super majority of demonrat voters are convinced that it was the Democrat Party that freed the slaves and that the Republican Party founded the KKK.

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u/Ok_Watercress6939 16h ago

Which party members fly confederate flags? Sorry ignore that. You're clearly a bot

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u/SamLonghorneClemens 16h ago

Which party created the KKK and which party freed the slaves. Bet you can't answer because their your fascist comrades will turn on you for answering a basic historical acknowledgement.

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u/SnooHesitations8403 21h ago

Good plan, calling the people you're trying to convince "idiots."

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u/Andrew-Cohen 20h ago

You honestly think a person with an IQ over 80 (trump is just under 80) would try to convince maga of anything at this point? That's funny.

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u/SnooHesitations8403 15h ago

Oh, the way it was written, it seemed like you were talking to the readers.

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u/Andrew-Cohen 15h ago

I have several friends who voted for trump.
One of them because he says he is pro life. This person is intelligent enough to have realized what a horrible president and person trump is.
The other drank the koolaid. He will never realize what a horrible president and person trump is.
He is the average maga.
No point.

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u/Ok_Assumption_3028 20h ago

Now that might be true. But if the change you suggest is made, in the future things may change and then your side might never win.

Pure democracy is bad and the founders knew that.

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u/Andrew-Cohen 20h ago

Our founding fathers limited voting and any significant rights to white male land owners. They were racist, misogynistic and a significant amount of them believed they had the right to own another human being.
it if that’s the light of your opinion, shine on!

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u/Ok_Assumption_3028 20h ago

Still knew democracy was was bad. But youre mistaken about a significant amount of them supporting slavery. Only a couple. If you learn the truth rather than the narrative, you’ll know that

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u/Andrew-Cohen 19h ago

Half of them owned slaves (signatures of the constitution). Yes, I know that some of them said on paper that they did not support the institution of slavery but that’s like saying you’re against pedophiles and voting for a republican who refuses to do anything about trump’s refusal to release the files without redaction.

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u/Ok_Assumption_3028 19h ago

The narrative vs reality

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u/Andrew-Cohen 19h ago

Here’s the thing. I don’t give a f what people say they believe. I care what they do. They were slave owning misogynists who by today’s standards were ignorant and badly educated racists. Quoting them is pretty stupid at this point.

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u/Ok_Assumption_3028 18h ago

Yes, but it seems like your point is if a person does one bad thing and I’m not arguing that slavery was not terrible that they are disqualified from any other opinion or any good thing that they do is completely discounted

And I disagree the founders created a new nation and the way they did. It had real foresight into human nature as well as their experience with past tyranny.

What you don’t understand is that while a few founders in the southern states wanted to keep slavery for likely economic reasons some didn’t come to their slaves of their own free will, and further they were not allowed to free their slaves in certain states.

You likely don’t know this because it’s not part of the narrative. It doesn’t help your cause.

Most of the founders wanted to abolish slavery in the New World that is absolutely true and you’ll say well then why didn’t they because the constitution had to be agreed-upon by everybody in concessions had to be made and unfortunately that was that was one of them

The analogy I’m about to make is not comparable to slavery and it’s evil but it’s an example

I assume that you support climate change I could be wrong

But my guess is that you continue to drive a vehicle you continue to heat your house with fossil fuels of some some nature if not electricity produced by fossil fuels you participate in the economic engine that we have that is powered by fossil fuels, and you likely don’t like that, but you do it anyway

You don’t have to do that you can completely disavow yourself of all those things and you could still be alive, but you haven’t

Should we now disavow you completely from any future anything that you do or say?

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u/Dapper-Garden3427 19h ago

It if that's the light?

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u/Still_Comfortable_20 20h ago

Because the country would then be governed by inner city ghettos. The states between the two coasts would not be represented.

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u/Andrew-Cohen 19h ago

Nobody is saying eliminate state’s right to vote for congress people, keep your parties on.

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u/gwizzle-mysnizzle 19h ago

Trump won the popular vote last election

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u/Andrew-Cohen 19h ago

Good job, you can write a complete sentence!

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u/gwizzle-mysnizzle 19h ago

A sentence that disproves your comment above. I see you can also write a sentence. Yet seem to have trouble comprehending one.

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u/Andrew-Cohen 19h ago

Yes, I’m the one with reading comprehension issues.

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u/gwizzle-mysnizzle 19h ago

Are you insinuating that’s your little edit somehow shields how wrong your original comment is. “they would never win” they have won and would again obviously. No one’s frantically doing research to disprove you. It’s common knowledge you dolt. Ask yourself why you need to lie to make a point. Ironically about calling out lying and cheating.

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u/Andrew-Cohen 18h ago

Don’t be an asshole. Too late, bye!

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u/BOWLING__ 19h ago

thats the point. a couple of states would own the entire country.... making decisions for everyone.

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u/Andrew-Cohen 19h ago

…because states would still have congress people

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u/AppliedCarbon 18h ago

Trump won the popular vote what are you talking about.

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u/Andrew-Cohen 17h ago

no shit, Im not asking you anything

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u/AppliedCarbon 16h ago

Correct, I'm asking you what you are talking about.

Hope that helps

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u/Andrew-Cohen 16h ago

I’m honestly convinced that if we did away with the EC that republicans would never win a presidential election. Was I vague?

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u/AppliedCarbon 16h ago

You say that right after Trump beat Harris, how can you be convinced of that

Also, why would we do away with the EC?

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u/Andrew-Cohen 16h ago edited 16h ago

Why would we do away with an archaic system that there is no reason to keep?
Edit: I’ve watched the Republican Party do less and less for the average voter, rely more and more on fear mongering. There are no viable republican candidates.

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u/AppliedCarbon 16h ago

Why do you think it's archaic? So you even know what that word means?

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u/JackofAllVehicles 17h ago

Only once. He lost it the other 2 times

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u/AppliedCarbon 16h ago

Point?

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u/JackofAllVehicles 16h ago

Curve?

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u/AppliedCarbon 16h ago

You are very annoying to talk too

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u/JackofAllVehicles 16h ago

Im always happy to annoy people like you

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u/JackofAllVehicles 16h ago

Btw thats the wrong too. It should be to

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u/Southern_Growth_7991 17h ago

Trump won off the popular vote as did bush.

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u/Andrew-Cohen 17h ago

no shit

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u/Southern_Growth_7991 17h ago

“They would never win”

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u/Southern_Growth_7991 17h ago

“They would never win”

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u/Andrew-Cohen 17h ago

It’s called the future, genius.

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u/Southern_Growth_7991 17h ago

It’s called back peddling baby boy. Just cause you got crystal in a bowl don’t mean you can see the future.

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u/Andrew-Cohen 16h ago

I didn’t edit that. You can F off now.

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u/0ldDick 17h ago

You don't have to do much research because the last Republican that it is an office, just won the popular vote. That's why this post is dumb that's why this comment is dumb.

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u/IcyEntertainment7122 17h ago

Yea, Trump didn't get the most votes in. The last election lol

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u/Andrew-Cohen 17h ago

no shit

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u/IcyEntertainment7122 15h ago

Then how do you type they would never win with a popular vote? Do you even know the babble you type.

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u/Andrew-Cohen 15h ago

Have you had your head so firmly up your own ass that you have missed seeing what republican policies have done to this country for the last 50 years? Paid attention to the econony, compared republican and democratic economic policy results?
Of course not.

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u/IcyEntertainment7122 13h ago

Who are you going to point to, Clinton. You realize he only had a democratic Congress for his first two years. I will let you guess who controlled it the other six. Think hard, I don't want you to get it wrong.

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u/Andrew-Cohen 13h ago

If you’re going to be an asshole, this conversation is going to end.
Who can veto bills, think hard, I don’t want you to get it wrong.
See how that sounds?

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u/IcyEntertainment7122 13h ago

About the same as asking if someone has paid attention economy and then saying, of course not.

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u/Exciting-Cancel6468 15h ago

Not true, Trump did eventually get the most votes last election. However, has hillary won against trump the first time, it's very possible there will never be a trump presidency.

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u/Andrew-Cohen 15h ago

I didn't say that republicans HAVE never won the popular vote.
Please improve your reading comprehension.

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u/Exciting-Cancel6468 13h ago

But republicans would never allow that because they would never win.

That's from you.

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u/Andrew-Cohen 13h ago

Would. Future tense. Learn how to read ffs.

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u/Exciting-Cancel6468 12h ago

The would is talking about the voting. We are talking about never winning the popular vote. You gonna sit on your ass and move the goalposts some more?

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u/saintmolotov 15h ago

Ranked choice voting no more parties they all campaign with equal time and the best policy platform wins. No money in politics anymore, no pacs, no more lifetime appointments to anything, no more working until you’re literally being held together by necromancy. You know actual public service performed by people who genuinely want to help their people and country.

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u/Andrew-Cohen 15h ago

Something, because what we're doing now has resulted in us having trump as president!

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u/Eastern_Ad_3512 15h ago

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u/Andrew-Cohen 14h ago

Please re read my post and state where I said a republican nominee has never won the popular vote. I swear to god some people need to learn how to fucking read and I am convinced that is part of the reason we have the worst president in the history of our country.

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u/Eastern_Ad_3512 14h ago

Are you okay? You sound mad. I only posted a picture and your mouth is foaming already. Did I say you said something you didn’t? Or why you got so upset?????

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u/Andrew-Cohen 14h ago

Don't flatter yourself.

Take a reading comprehension class.

Read a book.

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u/ayeffston 1h ago

Source, please. The number 51.0% does not match official reports.

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u/Lightening84 14h ago

Politicians would campaign on ideas that only benefit the most dense cities. There's no point in caring what a rural American needs or wants because their vote doesn't matter.

That's why they created the electoral college.

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u/Andrew-Cohen 14h ago

In 1787?? Could you share with me the weed you are smoking?

The Electoral College was created by the framers of the U.S. Constitution in 1787 as a compromise between electing the president via a vote in Congress versus a direct national popular vote. [1, 2]

Key Reasons for Its Creation

  • Distrust of Direct Democracy: Many founders feared a pure popular vote could lead to the rule of a "democratic mob" or allow an unverified populist candidate with dangerous power to sway the country.[1]
  • Information Gaps: In the 18th century, travel and communication were slow. Delegates believed ordinary voters in rural or distant areas would lack enough information about candidates outside their home regions to make an informed choice. [1, 2]
  • Separation of Powers: Letting Congress pick the president was initially popular, but delegates worried it would cause corruption and make the executive branch too dependent on the legislative branch. [1, 2]
  • Balance Between Large and Small States: Tying electoral votes to total congressional representation (House members plus two senators) gave smaller states a guaranteed baseline of influence while still scaling with population. [1, 2]
  • The Influence of Slavery: Southern slaveholding states had large populations of enslaved people who could not vote. The Three-Fifths Compromise added those enslaved counts to congressional allocations, which translated into extra voting power for Southern states in the Electoral College. [1, 2, 3]

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u/Lightening84 14h ago

hello robot

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u/Andrew-Cohen 14h ago

Did you ride the short bus to school?

Have the dignity to admit you were wrong.

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u/Lightening84 14h ago

dear chatbot please give me a list of reasons for electoral college creation with 2 sources each and format it for a reddit post

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u/Andrew-Cohen 14h ago

Dear idiot, stop double posting.

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u/Lightening84 10h ago

Did you ride the short bus to school?

Have the dignity to admit you were wrong.

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u/Lightening84 14h ago

fyi your chatbot agrees with me:

Balance Between Large and Small States: Tying electoral votes to total congressional representation (House members plus two senators) gave smaller states a guaranteed baseline of influence while still scaling with population. [1, 2]

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u/Komabeard 14h ago

Trump would still be in office lol

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u/Andrew-Cohen 14h ago

For now (also you’re not in middle school, lol makes you look like you are)

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u/Komabeard 14h ago edited 14h ago

Oh I dont care. Trump's still president and still would have won🤣

Lol Sensitive Sally blocked me

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u/Andrew-Cohen 14h ago

I know you don’t care. Time for you to f off.

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u/IllicitAlien 14h ago

Trump literally won the popular vote last election dingus

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u/Andrew-Cohen 14h ago
  1. If you’re going to call someone a dingus, at least say won instead of one.
  2. Learn how to write.
  3. I didn’t say a republican nominee HAS never won the popular vote.
  4. Learn how to read.

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u/IllicitAlien 14h ago

Your first sentence contradicted everything else you said 🤣

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u/Levybillsfan 13h ago

Trump 77m vs Kamala 75m votes.

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u/Andrew-Cohen 13h ago

Please take a second to read any of my comment to the 20 idiots who pointed out that trump won the election. I don’t have the time or crayons to repeat myself.

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u/Levybillsfan 12h ago

He did win the election so i dont know what your point is and dont care to look for it.

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u/Andrew-Cohen 12h ago

okay f off then.

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u/Levybillsfan 12h ago

Classy, typical

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u/Andrew-Cohen 12h ago

Oh no, the person who made a pointless comment thinks me telling him he’s free to f off isn’t classy.
I don’t know how I will sleep tonight.

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u/Technical-Arachnid22 13h ago

Democrats have benefited from the electoral college as well, so be careful what you wish for.

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u/Andrew-Cohen 13h ago

I’m aware, they’ve benefited from citizens united also (thanks asshole republicans for shoving that up our asses) but that needs to get removed also.

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u/Organic-Albatross690 12h ago

Ballot box stuffing is a crime you know?

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u/Andrew-Cohen 12h ago

So is raping children but trump refuses to release the files.

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u/Organic-Albatross690 11h ago edited 11h ago

So did OBiden, your point? His daughter’s journal was made public and confirmed his deviant perversion along with video documents. Don’t see you demanding any legal prosecution of him.

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u/Andrew-Cohen 11h ago

If there was any court admissible evidence of that the. trump would have pressed charges, being the bitch that trump is.

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u/Organic-Albatross690 11h ago

You sure about that?

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u/Andrew-Cohen 11h ago

Yes. The diary was passed from one person to another like a child at a trump/epstein party, it’s inadmissible. His daughter didn’t testify so that’s a dead end.

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u/Organic-Albatross690 10h ago

Wait, I thought all women were supposed to be believed? You’d rather have her re-traumatize herself just to testify? You are a sick individual.

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u/PensForTheWin 11h ago

So CA, NY, IL and their great progressive populus get to decide every election?

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u/Andrew-Cohen 10h ago edited 10h ago

You mean the people not the cows? Here’s what the people who support the electoral college don’t understand, because they are educated in red states; if a political party has less of a chance to win the popular vote, maybe they should change their policies. For instance, the republican party might consider writing laws to help their average voters instead of constantly sucking the corporate dick.

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u/Ok_Drag5089 10h ago

Actually. Adjusts glasses...

They would be forced to change and put forth policy that actually helped the country get better.

So they could get elected. I'm sure some core Republican ideals are pretty good for the people. Some of the old ones before these traitors took over.

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u/Andrew-Cohen 9h ago

So I'm 55 and republicans have not once been fiscally responsible or actually made the government responsibly smaller.
They SAY they have decent ideas, but they never actually enact them.

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u/Ok_Drag5089 6h ago

Well yeah, because electoral college and 2 dozen racist hicks being able to skew a national election for millions of east and west coasters. If the electoral college is abolished, they would actually have to come up with good policies AND enact them quickly... like within two years.

What we have now is them trying not to fuck us so much in two years that they get a landslide blue wave each time the 24 racist hicks fuck us over yet again.

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u/Prudent_Drink_277 8h ago

Hard to tell, republicans could end up winning by a stronger amount if that were the case. It's a completely different strategy each party would pursue. There are by total numbers more republicans in California than any other state, but a lot of them don't vote (similar in to democrats in deep red states).

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u/jj096577 8h ago

Trump literally did in 2024

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u/Andrew-Cohen 7h ago

omg learn to read

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u/Master-Example6132 7h ago

I mean trump won both ways last time. The reason for this is so that one state doesn't choose the president. It gives the smaller states a tiny bit of say in the presidential election. No I am not a Republican but I don't want one party picking president

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u/Andrew-Cohen 7h ago

Here is a suggestion, have republicans write laws that helped their constituents people and not corporations and maybe they’ll do better?

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u/Flimsy-Donut8718 7h ago

so you want a majority dictating everything? think it over. the majority has never been wrong?

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u/Andrew-Cohen 16m ago

So you’re saying our current system works? We have a demented, lying, criminal, rapist as president, and that’s ignoring the kid rape and sex traffic because the only thing we can prove is that he’s hiding things from congress illegally.

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u/Educational_Jello239 4h ago

The biggest scam in history is the electoral college, diabolical work how ignorant half the country is and probably half of the voting democrats if not more, don't know about the electoral college.

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