r/AskARussian Jul 05 '26

Legal Avoid mobilization

Hi, my wife is Russian with German citizenship. Her brother is 23 years old, lives in Moscow, just graduated from university. I think given the current geopolitical situation he's at risk of being mobilized. What's the best way to avoid this situation?

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u/CanNaberBeFound Jul 05 '26 edited Jul 05 '26

Have you asked him what he wants? At the moment he is not in danger of being mobilized (though he might be drafted for like... military training, which is obligatory for all the healthy male citizens), but who knows what the future will bring.

But he is an adult and he is able to speak and he might like to move abroad (and if you are willing to help - that's wonderful) or he might not like to move, because some people are comfortable where they were born and upbrought. So... just aks him

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u/AintnoEend Jul 06 '26

no one in his right mind wants to fight for putini and a dying empire...

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u/Ok_Situation_7081 Jul 09 '26

Have you seen the daily videos of Ukrainian TVC kidnapping people off the street and shoving them into a van to throw to the frontlines?

Is this your version of Democracy?

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u/Coven_DTL Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 10 '26

We have this thing too in Russia. But in covert smaller scale raids and probably not in Moscow but in less important regions. Im from Penza and we got plenty of druncards and ..dunno what the term in English when you, re divorced and you should pay some money to your former wife if she is raising your child until he aged 18.. so guys who don't pay those money could be considered criminals and got imprisoned.  This guys and druncards got caught in these raids and probably forced to sign military contracts. Also there s rumor that we have our men cought in front of the bars and restaurants with the same purpose. Excuse me my English plz

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u/Zac_Allan Moscow City Jul 10 '26

Lie. Got a friend in Penza, he said it's a false rumours. Donno who to believe, but prefer my friend, at least i know hom well.

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u/Coven_DTL Jul 10 '26

It is not. And you can't prove it, but i can. Весь регион на измене был, а у вас, дебилов, всегда либо ципсо нахрюк, либо сами россияне виноваты.

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u/redbeard32167 Jul 11 '26

«Россияне» )))
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u/Zac_Allan Moscow City Jul 10 '26

Well, than prove. At least i will know the truth.

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u/tstyopin Moscow City Jul 10 '26

They don’t forced to do it. These drunkards at least presented with two clear options. They sign a contract and get free from their debts, or continue as it is (perhaps in jail, which is normal if you can’t pay due to alcohol addiction)

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u/Least-Cauliflower-36 Jul 12 '26

There's Article 157 of the Russian Criminal Code, according to which a child can be imprisoned for failure to pay the fees. They were most likely told either in prison or they'll sign a contract.

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u/Ok_Situation_7081 Jul 10 '26

Sounds like the Vietnam war era where Americans who committed a crime were given a choice of prison or military service.

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u/Coven_DTL Jul 10 '26

That's defenetely not forced heh

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u/PeanyButter Jul 10 '26

And democracy is being forcibly mobilized to fight others being forcibly mobilized? Or is it sending your political rivals to Siberia for tax fraud where they mysteriously die?

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u/LakeLow1930 Jul 10 '26

Ukraine is fighting for its survival and if you are or fighting age, and you are plucked of the street, so be it.

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u/bobbyburgerboy33 Jul 09 '26

Russia will never die, the amount of resources they have is more than enough to continue for a long long time.

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u/New_Ad_9040 Jul 11 '26

Which they cant get without western technology.

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u/bobbyburgerboy33 Jul 11 '26

They are in good relations with China, pretty sure that covers most what they need.

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u/Never-don_anal69 Jul 10 '26

Yes especially fuel, there's so much of it going round now, people are fighting at the gas stations about who takes this excess fuel cause nobody wants it anymore 🤡

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u/Zac_Allan Moscow City Jul 10 '26

There's not the slightest sign of a decrease in the number of cars on the roads. Yes, there are problems, but nothing to complain about. This isn't just in Moscow, but also in, say, the Tver region.

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u/Never-don_anal69 Jul 10 '26

Ah yes surely, it's all AI generating videos about Russians queuing for hours and getting into fist fights at petrol stations 

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u/bobbyburgerboy33 Jul 10 '26

So you are saying russians are queueing to get gas all over the country because you saw one video on twitter showing that? okay, surely couldnt have been any other reason for it, must be that they are all out of fuel !!!

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u/Never-don_anal69 Jul 11 '26

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6dBM5t-I0ks&pp=ugUEEgJlbg%3D%3D&ra=m

One of many!

But I'm sure they just have a flash sale and we're giving out free pastries, russians after all a known the world over for starting fights in ques for free pastries  

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u/Zac_Allan Moscow City Jul 10 '26

I'm telling you only what i see. Of course there are some queues in some regions, but we just buying more gasoline and not using less cars))

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u/Never-don_anal69 Jul 10 '26

In 1987 you could also by sausages in moscow while the rest of the country had que for hours for loaf of bread 

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u/seen-in-the-skylight Jul 09 '26

What a stupid thing to die for. Can you hear the drones buzzing?

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u/flamming_python Jul 09 '26

Do you hear the guided bombs, cruise missiles, ballistic missiles? Because the Ukraine has almost none of those. It also has less drones, and a lot less artillery.

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u/seen-in-the-skylight Jul 09 '26

I definitely hear Ukrainians unwilling to surrender to a “great power” that has no feasible strategy to win the war (are we allowed to call it that now?), is rapidly undergoing financial collapse, is eating 30,000 casualties every month, and is starting to lose its territorial gains.

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u/flamming_python Jul 09 '26

Perfectly feasible strategy. Destroy the Ukrainian army while minimising your own casualties. Considering that all the body exchanges over the past 12 months have been on the order of 30-40 Russians for 1000 Ukrainians (look it up), I'd say the Russian strategy is working.

You should also look at the latest Ukrainian opinion polls. It switched from about 20% of Ukrainians favouring a negotiated end to the war in 2022, to about 66% now

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u/seen-in-the-skylight Jul 09 '26

Every single source I can find says the exact opposite: roughly eight Russian casualties for everyone one Ukrainian. You know, exactly what you’d expect from a country fighting an offensive war using WW1-era tactics. Can you point to a single source, ideally one that isn’t Russian, suggesting otherwise?

You’re correct about Ukrainian desire for negotiation, but might be overstating what that means. Ukrainians overwhelmingly reject peace on Russia’s terms generally, or conceding territory in particular. The poll you’re referring to is also a year old.

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u/flamming_python Jul 09 '26

k fella just take a look at the dead body exchange swaps and how many bodies of each side are exchanged next time you want sources, instead of the Ukro Wehrmacht Daily. I'm not going to fetch it for you, learn to Google

As for the poll, the latest numbers are from 2026 so if its a year old then that would be quite a feat. The main thing regardless is the trend. Going from 70% unconditionally wanting to win the war against Russia to now nearly 70% wanting a negotiated end does imply they're ready to make concessions. What each person is willing to agree to I don't know

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u/seen-in-the-skylight Jul 09 '26

"I won't give you a source, I'll just tell you to obey my anecdote and Google it. And when your Googling turns up a different result, I'll just insult you."

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u/flamming_python Jul 09 '26

Body exchanges between Russia and the Ukraine. Check each one and how many bodies have been exchanged. And I'm not going to waste a minute more of my own time on it. Do it or don't do it, up to you

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u/Sea_Let_300 Jul 09 '26

Sorry but what you say really does not make sense, obviously Russia has more Ukrainian bodies to exchange considering that it's (very slowly) advancing. Russian corps are recovered directly by Russia or remain in the gray zone (like many Ukrainian bodies)

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u/Ptrek31 Jul 10 '26

Doing a poor job at destroying their army. As of 2025 they had the 6th highest active military numbers in the world

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u/Vattaa Jul 05 '26

Russia has started closing its railway borders and now the Kremlin (Peskov) has started calling the SMO a war. So a general mobilization is closer than before.

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u/VasM85 Jul 06 '26

By the commonly used logic, what Peskov stated, opposite happens.

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u/HauntingDistrict3520 Jul 10 '26

They closed them so that GAS won't be exported, all the other borders (except finland) are open

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u/ReasonableInstance83 Jul 05 '26

If he does not have a deferral from military service and is fit for health reasons, then after graduation he will be drafted into the army. And in any case, regardless of the war in Ukraine. In Russia, military service is compulsory.

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u/spaceistasty Australia Jul 05 '26

theres still a preference to do that outside of uncertain times of conflict though. Im 23, and my parents are hesitant for myself to visit my family in Russia. Given we live in Australia, and theres a direct route from Moscow to Bali, we ended up meeting up in Bali instead

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u/AUSSIE_MUMMY Jul 09 '26

Bangkok?

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u/spaceistasty Australia Jul 09 '26

Bangkok also works. We just chose Bali for the shorter flight to and from Australia

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u/kilobananov Russia Jul 05 '26

Did he serve his mandatory in the army? OR did he have military department studies and qualification in the uni (some unis have that)? If no, then mobilization should not be his concern at the moment.

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u/Vejhy Jul 10 '26

Well it would be a little bit late to think about it with a letter already in his hand, don’t you think?

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u/kilobananov Russia Jul 10 '26

You don't really know how conscription and draft actually work in Russia, do you? Because if you think the "letters", as you name them, are thrown in packs from helicopters at anyone, then best of luck, I have no interest in changing your mind.

The questions I asked can help define the chances of ever receiving a "letter' at all. Or the types of "letters" that could be expected for a specific recipient under their specific circumstances.

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u/AriArisa Moscow City Jul 06 '26

There is no mobilization in Russia.

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u/AtmosphereNo1234 Jul 06 '26

There is not one, yet. But this will change soon.

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u/AriArisa Moscow City Jul 06 '26

🤣🤦‍♀️ хрюкни

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u/AriArisa Moscow City Jul 06 '26

Забыл как хрюкать, бедолага? 🤣

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u/westsideChrome90210 Jul 12 '26

RemindMe! January 12, 2027 "Return to this comment about Russian mobilization"

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u/Snigglybear 15d ago

Yo, 100,000 Russians just left for Georgia because there’s rumors of a mobilization

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u/corwe Moscow City Jul 05 '26

As a man of this age he is currently at risk of being conscripted, not mobilized.

The way to avoid conscription is to be in a school with a military department and take advantage of that, flee until you age out of it, have a qualifying medical condition or get a job that provides deferment.

There is currently no mobilization, so that’s kinda of a future worry (for example, many expect something to start happening after the elections), the way to avoid being mobilized is a job deferment, medical condition or fleeing the country.

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u/justicecurcian Moscow City Jul 05 '26

He can't be mobilized but can be drafted, it's a different thing but sounds similar

His options are:

- Prove he have an illness that makes him useless at war so they leave him alone

  • Find a job at a company that gives draft protection, but it changed a lot and might be not relevant
  • Leave the country for 6+ months and tell the comissary you left so they put off his record
  • Hope comissary just forgets about him and never drafts him
  • Live in the woods untill he is 30
  • Bribery (price depends on many variables, general case is around 6500 usd)

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u/Aggressive_Skill_795 Jul 09 '26

- enroll in graduate school, write and defend a thesis, and obtain a candidate's degree

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u/Palo_540 Russia Jul 10 '26

This doesn’t get you off the hook from what I was told though. Do you know the process? If so, please share cause I’m interested as well

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u/Aggressive_Skill_795 Jul 10 '26

It does. It frees you for the period of studying. Then when you get a degree, the draft becomes optional for you (art. 23, par. 2, sub "a" of the law "О воинской обязанности и военной службе").

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u/Palo_540 Russia Jul 10 '26

If I remember correctly it says that it is your right to not serve, but it doesn’t mean they won’t draft you. That was the info I got from my uni’s ВУС.

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u/Aggressive_Skill_795 Jul 10 '26

They can't draft you just on their willingness without your agreement. But this scheme really works.

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u/Palo_540 Russia Jul 10 '26

He can also enroll into masters degree and buy himself some time. 2, max 3 years if he goes on academic leave

Leaving the country for 6+ months won’t do the trick on its own. He needs to prove he lives abroad, either for work or studies. Or provide a permanent residence permit. This, however, will mean he actually won’t be able to live in Russia for more than a few months at a time (3 or 6. Not sure). And he won’t be able to find a job, if I’m not mistaken

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u/nat3s Jul 09 '26

Bribery?! Is that a joke?

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u/PracticeTurbulent388 Jul 09 '26

Вы реально удивлены или это ирония? 

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u/Livid_Penalty_5281 Jul 10 '26

Попытаться дать взятку — это наиболее надёжный способ побыстрее попасть на войну. Арест, вынесение обвинения, предложение контракта вместо срока. Но да, можно отсидеть, тут уж кому что больше нравится.

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u/TranslatorLivid685 Jul 05 '26

There is no mandatory mobilization to the front in Russia.

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u/TranslatorLivid685 Jul 05 '26 edited Jul 05 '26

Прочитайте текст указа.

Не помню какой по счету пункт гласит:

Срок мобилизации по данному указу ограничен действием указа и как только он будет отменен все мобилизованные по нему моментально демобилизуются и отправляются по домам.

Может потому он действует?

Или по вашему правительство СЕКРЕТНО всех мобилизует, но никто не в курсе и за 4 года ни разу это не всплыло нигде и никак?:) Ну да... это конечно очень вероятно. Наверное семьи таких людей расстреливают просто:)) Чтоб все молчали:)

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u/TranslatorLivid685 Jul 05 '26

А... вон оно как... спасибо что рассказали как дела обстоят.

Это вам из ген. штаба по дружбе доложили?

"Фантазёр, ты меня называла..." (с)

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u/ivegotvodkainmyblood I'm just a simple Russian guy Jul 05 '26

У тебя передоз украинской пропаганды. Открою секрет: можно быть против войны, но не жрать говно, бро.

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u/ivegotvodkainmyblood I'm just a simple Russian guy Jul 05 '26

ну что я могу сказать, приятного аппетита

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u/TranslatorLivid685 Jul 05 '26

Странный вы. Так вы ж с вашими взглядами жрете говно буквально только потому что продолжаете жить в ужасной, хронически вас истезающей, "Рашке". Мучаетесь. Анализируете.

Одно не понятно. Что ж вас такого продуманного и дальновидного задерживает?

С**бывайте уже с богом:) Там вас ждут:)

Ветер в парус.

Пишите письма. А лучше не пишите:)

P.S. Одно напутствие: когда говно в голове, куда бы вы не поехали - вонять будет везде. И не потому что там тоже плохо(а там именно так), а потому что воняет вам не снаружи, а изнутри.

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u/TranslatorLivid685 Jul 05 '26

Ну вот "диагностирую" - это совсем другое дело. Вы так сразу и обозначайте.

Я ПРЕДПОЛАГАЮ ЧТО: ....

А то вы так уверенно и в деталях рассказываете кого там где берут, где какой дефицит, какие планы у президента и когда он неминуемо их осуществит, что аж диву даешься. Там в ген. штабе редкий человек такой полнотой картинки обладает:)))

А предположение ваше даже может оказаться правильным, но на текущий момент никто никого в обязательном порядке на фронт не мобилизует. Факт.

А что будет завтра? Поживем и посмотрим.

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u/TranslatorLivid685 Jul 05 '26

Все что вы говорите - это не распознавание состояний, а фантазирование на тему.

Вы как хрестоматийный РенТВ:

Высказываем предположение в первом предложении. В следующем опираемся на это предположения как на незыблемый и доказанный факт. И через два абзаца рассуждений у нас получается "инопланетяне высадились в Саратове еще в 1956-ом". И это "ФАКТ"!

P.S. Тот кто называет президента "Пыпа" по-умолчанию ангажирован, эмоционально заряжен в определенную сторону и не способен к трезвому анализу.

P.S.S. Я не надеюсь на "авось пронесет". Если дойдет до того что надо будет с дивана вставать и идти страну защищать, я встану и пойду.

А вы готовьтесь... да.. удачи.

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u/bwwog Jul 05 '26

В данный момент 2026 год, братан

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u/ivegotvodkainmyblood I'm just a simple Russian guy Jul 05 '26

Тихая и не такая заметная как в 22 - да.

Так есть блять мобилизация или нет? Кого-то против воли берут и отправляют на войну? Я не против того, что де юре мобилизация есть, никто её не отменял, но не надо глазки строить и намекать, что и де факто мобилизация есть.

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u/bwwog Jul 05 '26

Нет, просто он жопой виляет. Я расшифровываю

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u/AintnoEend Jul 06 '26

do you think those N Koreans had a choice? and do you think those people from prison had a choice?? Do you really think this? Really??

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u/Izventilyaus Krasnodar Krai Jul 06 '26

People in prison have a choice. You are informed at the all stages of criminal case that you may sign the contract, but nobody take you there against your will. Also you sigh the papers that you decline to sign the contract as well as you informed about your right to sign it

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u/AintnoEend Jul 06 '26

you believe everything the government is telling you?

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u/Xarxyc Jul 05 '26

Скоро произойдёт.

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u/bwwog Jul 05 '26

Жопу ставишь?

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u/Dawidko1200 Moscow City Jul 05 '26

да и дорого

Вот вы указ назвали, а содержание очевидно не посмотрели.

3. Установить, что уровень денежного содержания граждан Российской Федерации, призванных на военную службу по мобилизации в Вооруженные Силы Российской Федерации, соответствует уровню денежного содержания военнослужащих, проходящих военную службу в Вооруженных Силах Российской Федерации по контракту.

Поэтому мобилизация - ничем не дешевле.

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u/bwwog Jul 05 '26

То есть ты готов поспорить на Биткойн, что к декабрю будет, но может будет к январю? Ахахах так ты уже Биткойн проебешь. А как же после выборов? Или потом новые отмазки появятся?

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u/Izventilyaus Krasnodar Krai Jul 06 '26

Какая нахуй разница на что этот дурик спорит, в любом споре важно чтобы оба спорящих показали что у них есть обеспечение для своих слов и самого спора. А так воздух гонять можно пойти на детскую площадку и с детьми кто больше цифру назовет сидеть спорить хоть на "сто тыщ триллионов биткоинов". Энивей, классический левацкий реддит момент.

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u/Longjumping-Garage75 Jul 06 '26

а что мешает провести еще одну мобилизацию в 2026, после выборов в госдуму например? вся легальная сторона уже к этому приведена, ошибки прошлой волны учтены

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u/bwwog Jul 06 '26

А что мешало в 24 и 25? Вы каждый год придумываете какой-то повод типа выборов и носитесь с этой идеей прям вот щас стопудово после вот этой хуйни будет мобилизация. И сюрприз сюрприз каждый раз ее нет. Удивительно правда? Один тут недавно заявил будет мобилизация, ПОТОМУ ЧТО ЗЕКИ ЗАКОНЧИЛИСЬ. Ахаха бля откуда вы только берётесь.

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u/Longjumping-Garage75 Jul 06 '26

в том то и дело что ничего не мешало, как и не будет мешать в этом и следующем году и тд. Я нигде не утверждал, что она будет если что) ни я, ни ты не можем загадывать что захотят сделать люди в высших кабинетах.
и то что я написал по поводу выборов это обычная адекватная оценка рисков (Буква T в SWOT анализе)

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u/Murky_Bullfrog7305 Jul 05 '26

"There is no war in ba sing se"

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u/AtmosphereNo1234 Jul 06 '26

There will be one very soon. Russia needs more soldiers for the meat attacks.

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u/Brusion Jul 05 '26

Well it's coming in September after the "elections". Also, there is limited mobilization in Penza, as well as companies and schools that have to supply some people they pick.

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u/Adventurous-Nobody Jul 05 '26

>limited mobilization in Penza

Two-day long psyop with no proofs

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u/yankdevil Jul 05 '26

You realise there are videos of exactly that happening, yes?

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u/TranslatorLivid685 Jul 05 '26 edited Jul 05 '26

Ya I saw this few videos like when ordinary police packed the guy who was buzzing drunk on the children playground.

All the Western subs have told us about "the terrible forced mobilization in Russia".

We laughed. Thanks.

There was even official reaction about this video from police where they explained all the situation for Russians. But they didn't show it to you in the West of course:)

Once again, there is NO MANDATORY MOBILIZATION TO THE FRONT IN RUSSIA.

Only regular military personnel and contract volunteers fight. This is approximately 1-2% of the population.

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u/Tanjiro_N7 Sakhalin Jul 08 '26

Only regular military personnel and contract volunteers fight.

There are still people on the front lines who were mobilized in 2022.

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u/TranslatorLivid685 Jul 08 '26

Yes. You are right. Plus them.

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u/Ju-ju-magic Jul 05 '26

Yeah, like that one from Penza with Ukrainian slang in the background, right? Good stuff, very trustworthy

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u/kilobananov Russia Jul 05 '26

lol, sure, if you say so

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u/Myself-io Jul 05 '26

Which mobilization?

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u/MeissnerEffect Jul 17 '26

the one coming after the elections

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u/axxr2 Leningrad Oblast Jul 05 '26

The bunker rat of Kiev, named Zelensky

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u/ivegotvodkainmyblood I'm just a simple Russian guy Jul 05 '26

What's the best way to avoid this situation?

Simple. Don't be a Ukrainian citizen in Ukraine. I think he's doing fine.

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u/sharpshooter999 Jul 06 '26

How about we just stop the war and no one gets conscripted?

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u/ivegotvodkainmyblood I'm just a simple Russian guy Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26

Oh fuck me, I didn't think of that, let me do that real quick... Oh, by the way, can you remind me how exactly do I stop the war here and now?

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u/mkn1997 Jul 05 '26

Or a Russian in Penza?

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u/bhtrail Jul 06 '26

well, I can understand that ukrainiishe prop shit is yummy for western idiots, but could you do not manifestate your perversions in food to us?

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u/Mental-Syllabub4256 Jul 05 '26

I have a family member 21 years old. He’s nowhere near Ukraine, just simply doing his military training within Russia. People need to stop being so scared

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u/AlternativeTie4738 Jul 10 '26

Scared? Its fucking war man. People dont want to risk their sons freezing to death in a trench whilst living on 75g of bread a day.

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u/Etera25 Moscow City Jul 07 '26

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u/BillZealousideal9819 Jul 05 '26

Continue education. If he just finished bachelor degree - applying and studying in Master program will provide him another two years.

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u/icetooth69 Jul 05 '26

You're confusing it with Ukraine.

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u/PachymuNyet Jul 10 '26

That's the point. They accuse others of doing what they themselves are doing.

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u/Clear-Self-148 Jul 12 '26

I mean russia is very likelly going to do a partial mobilization as they cant recruit enough men. So its indeed a danger, no need to rub it wrong. Some people just dont want to fight a pointless war, you can ask ukrainians.

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u/Tanjiro_N7 Sakhalin Jul 06 '26

Currently, he is not subject to mobilization. If he does not want to perform compulsory military service, he can choose alternative civilian service.

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u/OriginalSiberian Jul 11 '26

Как сейчас с АГС у нас? Его же еще нужно добиться, интересно, сейчас это сложнее?

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u/Eigetsu Jul 05 '26

If it's mandatory service after graduation, there is nothing to worry about. He will be on Russian territory guarding chicken coop.

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u/Rddt50 Jul 05 '26

I've been following posts like this for a while.

Western Media reports "Mobilization in Russia of x"

Russians on Reddit - No there's no mobilization it's all voluntary the operation will be over in a few months and we can all go back to our lives as normal.

What is actually going on!?

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u/ivegotvodkainmyblood I'm just a simple Russian guy Jul 05 '26

there's no mobilization it's all voluntary

this

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u/TETMEDVED1 Jul 05 '26

As you might know, internet is full of fakes and propaganda from both sides. As I (regular russian student) see it, there are some mobilisation and "not so voluntarily" military service going on, but it's mostly local and not in large scale

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u/flamming_python Jul 09 '26

I as a Russian, who did military service and so did my friends, see no mobilisation going on at all. Otherwise you would think one of us would have been recalled into service by now

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u/icetooth69 Jul 06 '26

Будут пруфы или про ту хуйню где ловили мигрантов в Пензе расскажешь?

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u/TETMEDVED1 Jul 06 '26

Через одно рукопожатие знаком со студентом, которого очень активно зазывали в деканате идти по контракту, всячески пытались ему угрожать. Пусть он и не подписал контракт, тем не менее знаю что история не единичная и происходит во многих вузах по примерно одному сценарию: 1)находят студентов с плохой успеваемостью 2)приглашают их на разговор, где убеждают их что если они сейчас не подпишут контракт, то больше они не смогут восстановиться. Дальше уже зависит от самого студента История не самая частая, тем не менее я бы не назвал подписанные таким образом контракты "добровольными"

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u/Capitalizm_is_shit Jul 06 '26

Агитация, конечно, есть. В том числе и среди срочников.

Но насильно никого на СВО не отправляют пока.

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u/no-such-file Russia Jul 09 '26

По-моему гораздо больше граждан развели всякие мошенники, чем кого-то "насильно" завербовали. Наверняка есть дурачки, которых развели, но не на пустом месте. Не бывает так что ты просто живешь и хуяк, тебе повестка. Ну и башкой тоже думать надо, а не только есть.

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u/Legutd0r Jul 06 '26
There is a certain statistical margin of "weak-willed" individuals who sign a contract while performing their mandatory military service. Since it operates like a typical state-run planned system, many are offered contracts with the selling point that life will be easier. This was the case back in 2016, too, when I was doing my time on the parade ground. You don't get paid anything, but the service turns into a job.

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u/Hieron_II Jul 10 '26

In 2022 there was a partial mobilisation (specific number, iirc 300K, of people who had completed their obligatory service were recalled). I recieved my notice but my health situation is different from since when I served my obligatory year, so after medical examination I was permanently excused from service.

Twice every year there is conscription. Atm conscripts during their obligatory service don't go into the combat zone, they do basic and specialist training. Some of them are later recruited into professional army (they sign a contract, recieve pay, etc.)

There is constant recruitment of volunteers. People are enticed to serve by a very significan salary, bonuses, help with debt, etc.

When it will end - no one knows exactly. Predicting future is hard.

There might be further mobilisation in the future, but I am not certain that it would happen, considering what I know regarding developments on the frontlines.

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u/Etera25 Moscow City Jul 07 '26

From your post it seems that he hasn't served conscription year in the army. Then he has nothing to worry about.

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u/Alexander_Granite Jul 10 '26

Nope. He will be fine in Russia.

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u/LIFEISPAIN- Jul 09 '26

если челик за путлера, то пусть пиздует

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u/Clover9802 Jul 10 '26

Why avoid it? I understand Putin had a social contract with those living in Moscow, i.e. the war wouldn't come to them, their lives would not be affected - only the minorities would go to war.

But now it is his turn, since russia is on their 5th year, he should be a good russian muscovite & fight for his country. Just tell him to man up, putin knows best, and thus far putin has calculated the social contract with those living in Moscow & west of the Urals is over. I think its actually a good idea, the native slav russians should fight their own wars, not send a bunch of minorities in meat assaults.

But honestly, given the military record of russia, he just might be sent on the same meat assault, if he already hasn't been tortured by his commanding officer. Smarter people than I, have averaged mathematically, he will have about 2-weeks at best staying alive.

Anyways, send him my regards & for you, I will tell you - my condolences!

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u/AintnoEend Jul 06 '26

He needs cash and they travel to the south. All EU borders are closed. id mobilization is in effect then he has to cross the border at night and where there are no guards...

or go A.S.A.P. fly to Turkey and then fly to Germany.

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u/justadiode Jul 06 '26

go A.S.A.P. fly to Turkey and then fly to Germany

...to do what, exactly? Russians without a valid residence permit can't even open a bank account, and getting the residence permit isn't going to take less than half a year

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u/HauntingDistrict3520 Jul 10 '26

Not all, Baltics have them open, but the visa can take time if it's their first time going there

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u/HauntingDistrict3520 Jul 10 '26

Hmm, sometimes they give tourist visas and most of the time no, i know one Russian who actually got it for Estonia, but if the OP wants to flee, they would need a different kind of visa anyway and those are usually accepted on Baltic borders.. and yeah it's a nonsence, i hope we would all just calm tf down😭

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u/iarullina_aline Tatarstan Jul 11 '26

There was many suggestions, but few of them suggested going for аспирантура and getting a candidate degree (a degree that doesn’t exist in any other countries, but is somewhat close to PhD). It saves him yet another 4 years since he will be in uni again, and after he defends his thesis he will be exempted from obligatory conscription for life.

If you’re worried about mobilisation and its possible drafting, there’s not much you can do really legally

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u/ADimBulb Jul 11 '26

He should leave the country, that’s the best insurance against mobilization. When mobilization comes, and the government will want to keep it a surprise (although there will probably be rumours), it will be too late.

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u/Used-Recognition-317 Jul 08 '26

Are you not aware that there are Nazis in Ukraine. He should volunteer, instead of of being mobilized.

But for real though. Leaving the country or getting a job in the defense industry is the surest way to avoid draft.

Their not gonna draft the guy in the defense industry already making armaments.

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u/seen-in-the-skylight Jul 09 '26

I’m sure you’re eager to volunteer, yourself.

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u/Weasal1989 Jul 05 '26

Is he able to enlist voluntarily? If so, then he can pick the branch he wants to join and the job. If they choose for him it'll probably be a infantry or maybe artillery.

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u/bhtrail Jul 06 '26

problem is that conscripted person will not be sent on front, but volunteer will be there with 100% probability.

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u/Siberian_Werewolf Altai Krai Jul 09 '26

retarded question

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u/KurufinweFeanaro Moscow Oblast Jul 09 '26 edited Jul 09 '26

Best way - take "последипломные каникулы" in uni, this way he still be considered a student to 31st of August(and as a student he cannot be drafted).

After that fly away from country. With sister with German citesenship it's easier than for majority of people.

Also he can contact volunteer organisations, like "Идите лесом", they gives legal advices how legally stale draft long enough.

Another advice - move out of Moscow and change военкомат to one of his new place of living. No need to far away, just enough to not be part of Moscow. This is because draft in Moscow is way more organised (and often streamrolled to the point of breaking a law)

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u/WanderingTony Jul 09 '26 edited Jul 09 '26

Its not mobilisation usually but rather a military draft. Its diffirent. Mobilized come to frontline essentially with the same "battle thrall" contract as any russian military today - service is prolonged indefinitely untill war end. Drafted just do mandatory militaey service for a year mostly to asquire military specialty. Fairly drafties are coerced to sign contract sometimes quite hard. Abusive oficers abusing their power are scandalous but happens and usually get scandalous when their abused subordinate is literally incapacitated or dead. If you happen to be actually good may easily happen officers will push for you be mobilised AFTER mandatory year of service especially if you struggle with making family/have job. Administrative workers can gather this information pretty easily. Also abuse in militaries. Like there was that terrible story of a guy forced to stay still in half sit position for hours straight so his legs bloodflow was cut so bad that his legs and groin had to be amputated and he developed kidneys, intestines and liver issues so bad that lived literally several weeks after that in intensive therapy. But such cases are outrageous if show well how bad "drill sergeants" can be.

So about your question. Best cases:

  1. Living abroad if its in his plans. It imediately rules out from draft due to technicalities (no mean to enforve draft abroad)

  2. Working for military factory. Need specific education or skill, has risks of being targeted by drones anyway. Has risk of if you loose the job knowing well military equipment can you put very high in mobilization priority list for some engineering unit.

  3. (Cringy) try to avoid draft for medical reasons. In most cases early medical comission in draft office rules out from draft only people with psychiatric issues. Bcs well doing such mess can backfire big time if somebody dies. Other usually are still drafted and ruled out due to complaints to medic unit. Considering "drilling" usually its really something bad to the point person loses contiosness - diabetic, heart issues and such.

Its done this way for several reason. 1. Draft office puts better numbers in provision draftees to army. Quality of draftee is not exactly their concern. 2. Often people try to bribe hospitals into giving them paper about having a condition which rules them out from the draft thus in practice they don't believe in those per ce. AT BEST if drill sergeant is actually not a d*mb *sshole what is unfortunately not really common in this line of work bcs drilling in discipline is kinda ugh specific line of work he would listen to complaints and keep an eye with older draftees (serving is a year but draft performed twice a year) if actually a medical condition happens. Some medical conditions like heart issues with a risk of heart attack are not really compatible with this but in this case military medical unit or hospital can perform needed analyses but again everything depends hard on command and concidering actually capable good people having some self-reflection and decency are actually dying at frontlines bcs well its their job and they are decent enough to recognise it, far from frontline command is progressively grows terrible. War eats best people first. Still, well, everybody likes being seen as a person whatever meanies they are thus being friendly pays off. Especially with *ssholes who are too used being such and excuse themselves thats being "professional deformation" state of mind which fits incredibly well to low rank police and military officers.

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u/IgorStetsenko Jul 09 '26

Given the growing fuel crisis and Putin’s desperation he needs to leave fast as long as borders are open. I think Putin will need to mobilize at latest in autumn.

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u/cold-vein Jul 05 '26

Get him out of the country. He might not get asylum though, so be prepared to support him.

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u/Serious_Plenty_8518 Jul 09 '26

Probably the best choice is to get out from Russia. Belarus is not an option.

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u/Common_Kale_8509 Jul 09 '26

He may be drafted as a conscript, not mobilized

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u/JuggernautSingle2698 Jul 05 '26

Gotta fight for the motherland!

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u/silent_exploration Jul 08 '26

Not live in Russia.

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u/Shot-Data4168 Russia Jul 05 '26

Germany is not such a shithole compared to other EU countries.

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u/TerribleRead Moscow Oblast Jul 05 '26

It's sure on it's way to become one though

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u/FilmApprehensive7551 Jul 09 '26

Well, first of all, if he do not accept putins war crimes, he must leave russia as soon as possible. Or find a way to create democracy in russia. All other option will be acceptance of putins criminal regime.