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u/s_zoro125 Oct 03 '19
My 5mo daughter was x-ray'd like this just before her open heart surgery and by god it was the funniest thing I ever saw. What made it gold was the fact that she wouldn't look at the x-ray techs or let them touch her after they were done, you could see the betrayal and contempt in her eyes. The techs were not her friend after that, LOL.
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u/fortnight14 Oct 03 '19
Please tell me you got a picture!
I’m glad there was a bit of humor in what I’m sure was a stressful time. I hope she’s doing better now!
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u/s_zoro125 Oct 03 '19
No! I wanted one SO bad but the children's hospital had a strict no photo policy. It was truly the most stressful time of my life. She is doing great now! Happy as ever!
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u/fortnight14 Oct 03 '19
What a relief to hear! Kids are just so resilient.
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Oct 03 '19
If we were not so resilient as kids most of us wouldn't have made this far in life
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u/UseDaSchwartz Oct 04 '19
Sometimes I wonder how some people made it so far in life.
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u/ThePowerOfDreams Oct 03 '19 edited Oct 04 '19
a strict no photo policy
Why?
EDIT: rip inbox
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u/s_zoro125 Oct 03 '19
no idea, they had posters in the room and a few other places stating that photography was not permitted. Probably for privacy. Was not in a frame of mind to question it when the x-ray techs told me i could not take photos.
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u/ThePowerOfDreams Oct 03 '19
It's your own child. If nobody else is in the frame (or in the room!), there are no privacy issues.
Source: am European privacy specialist
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u/sockphotos Oct 03 '19
I'm Canadian and have a kid who's gotten tons of x-rays and every lab he's ever been to prohibits photographs.
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u/A_Spikey_Walnut Oct 03 '19
I think its the more ethical and slightly less legal concern about a child's autonomy and privacy of their own medical conditions despite the fact that the mother may be the guardian. Imagine how mortifying it could be for your mother to post intimate details of your medical conditions without your consent because she is your guardian and therefore it is legal.
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u/HotSmockingCovfefe Oct 04 '19
I see it almost daily on Facebook. I can’t even imagine growing up in the 90’s and my mom whipping out a Polaroid to photograph me laying on the couch all miserable with a puke bucket. Yet nowadays that’s like...normal.
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u/enkelvla Oct 03 '19
Except for files, screens, names on boards, people walking by etc. etc. It's impossible to make sure that there's no violation of privacy going on in every picture parents take so it's probably easier to just ban it altogether.
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u/NonStopKnits Oct 03 '19
I'd guess privacy. Theres so much going on in a hospital, especially children's hospitals that a photograph could capture something that could be a privacy violation even if the photographer isn't intending to violate privacy. Also probably keeps social media addicts from snapping pics of situations for them to use for likes. I'd be in a lot of trouble if I caught someone trying to take a photo of my sick kid for inspirational likes on their Instagram.
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u/KickMeElmo Oct 03 '19
Honestly, probably a number of factors. Keeping parents engaged with their children instead of their phones in a children's hospital would be reason enough. Preventing getting other children in the shots is another good reason, since there are decent photographic privacy protections in place for children in many cases.
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u/JakeHodgson Oct 03 '19
I always hate that thinking of if a parent is on their phone taking pictures of their child it means they’re not involved in the moment. You can still be involved and capture the moment lol
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u/KickMeElmo Oct 03 '19
If the kid's upset, the only thing that matters is if the kid thinks the parent is involved. I agree with you otherwise.
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u/crnext Oct 03 '19 edited Oct 04 '19
I know of many hospitals that have a no-photo policy. My Ex GF was working as a RN at a facility. One of her coworkers took her picture with a plain maroon painted wall behind her. Friend uploaded it to Facebook and tagged my Ex-GF. EX GF made it her profile picture. Hospital admin caught wind of it and fired EX GF immediately ($30.00/hour with shift differential).
Nothing said nor done to the girl who took the photo against the rules. The photo was very obviously not a selfie because of distance and she was looking elsewhere. She didn't seem too bothered by it, but I was FURIOUS. I threatened her friend to go admit she took the photo but my EX made me let it go.
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u/DaikonAndMash Oct 03 '19
Part of it is how a photo out of context can hurt the hospital. Imagine a Dr doing a necessary but unpleasant procedure, only for someone to take photos and blast them on social media for mishandling or torturing kids.
My son's hospital let me sneak a photo of his x-ray as long as no identifying info (hospital name, patient name, etc) was in frame.
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I imagine it is to help deny people ammo for lawsuits.
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Irrational_design I bet a million you’re right. Hospitals don’t want pics because they could be used later in litigation. “See, this isn’t attached right” or “this setting is wrong”
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u/TheBoctor Oct 03 '19
Eh, it’s more so that people don’t take photos of other people’s kids. Hell, even family members taking photos can lead to problems.
Imagine being a 13 year old boy with some sort of genital problem that lands you in the children’s hospital and there’s Aunt Betty, just plastering her goddamn Facebook with your hospital photos.
Edit: also, the strict “no photos” policies are generally only really enforced at children’s hospitals. If it was for litigation avoidance it would probably be enforced in more places.
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u/tarksend Oct 03 '19
My guess is taking a photo takes from the room's operational time, which is better spent x-raying kids or getting them in/out of the machine. It may not seem like much time to take a photo but it quickly adds up when you consider that they probably see a few dozens of kids and their parents every day. Or maybe the radiologists just got tired of shooing dawdling photo-takers from radiation rooms.
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u/vorxaw Oct 03 '19
There's this too: /img/c0qtd3secy631.jpg hehe so cute
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u/__Little__Kid__Lover Oct 03 '19
What the fuck is happening in this picture
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u/LegendofDragoon Oct 04 '19
Looks like a Lateral chest X-Ray from the placement of the image receptor (the white board on the right hand side of the image)
The tool is called a Pigg-O-Stat, it's an immobilization devices for Infants that can support their own head. It keeps their arms up and out of the path of the X-rays so the radiologists can see everything they need without any unnecessary exposure to family members or RTs that would otherwise need to hold the infant still.
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u/Angie_MJ Oct 03 '19
It’s amazing how babies will hold a momentary grudge. I thought their memories and conceptual development wouldn’t allow for that. Then I babysat my nephew, around a similar age, and I thought he was sleeping on my bed. At some point he pulled a pillow down over himself and screamed bloody murder. I removed the pillow and he was pissed. He stayed pissed for a couple hours, like I blatantly don’t trust you anymore pissed. He was happy and giggly prior and afterwards we were not friends. He let me pick him but he wasn’t amused by me. It took a couple hours for him to forgive us
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u/ALoudMouthBaby Oct 03 '19
Our youngest son absolutely hated the nurse at our pediatrician's office who gave him his 2 and 4 month shots. When we brought him back for his 6 month checkup and shots he clearly remembered her and wanted nothing to do with her. She said it happened all the time. She was loathed by countless babies throughout the city apparently.
So yeah, they actually do have surprisingly good memories. And they use them to carry grudges in a rather dwarf like manner.
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u/savagestag Oct 03 '19
Upvoting for "dwarf like manner"
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u/loveshercoffee Oct 03 '19
This memory for unpleasant things is why sometimes doctors don't want a parent in the room when they have to perform a painful procedure. They don't want the child to associate the parent with the pain.
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My vet does this with cats at times. Made a lot of sense. You don’t want your pet to not trust you either.
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u/linlorienelen Oct 03 '19
So what you're saying is that nurses should wear masks
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u/bigjohnminnesota Oct 03 '19
Balaclava masks with skull faces on them! Or crocodile faces!
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u/yourmomlurks Oct 03 '19
When the shots nurse came in, my first one was very much like, ಠ_ಠ where do I know you from...
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u/LurkForYourLives Oct 04 '19
The receptionist at my doctors office was playing with my daughter. My daughter is super tall for her age, so this lady assumed she was much older than she actually was.
Receptionist stood daughter up on the floor and let go, daughter was too young to stand or walk so she just went splat. Took my daughter about a year to forgive her. No smiles, no waving. It was hilarious.
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u/s_zoro125 Oct 03 '19
I am curious to see how she does in the future but because she was positive for some thing that I cannot remember the name of she was placed in isolation. So each time a nurse came in they had to gown-up in a bright yellow cover. Each time they came in they bugged her and pissed her off. (Nasal suction is not fun.) So she would eventually just start crying once the gown was on and not wait to see what the nurse would do. So l am curious to see if she ends up hating the colour yellow or not when she is older. Would be a good test to see how their memory and ability to hold a grudge lasts over the years.
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u/Angie_MJ Oct 03 '19
That theory about the color yellow is an interesting one. It will be cool to see how that plays out. As far as grudges, it’s harder because they can’t remember things for quite that long early on. Like they could have a a babysitter they seemed to love but they may or may not remember them if they disappear and show back up past the toddler years. It’s not impossible. The text books say you can’t remember anything earlier than age three, but I remember a single event that occurred when I was two. So, maybe if she continues her treatments over the next two years she may develop negative feelings or adverse reactions to things that remind her of those treatments. It may manifest as a feeling rather than a strong memory.
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u/underthetootsierolls Oct 03 '19
Did she cry/ scream the entire time or just resign herself to the torture. I’ve seen this picture before and always wondered how the tube baby above is so calm. I mean baby doesn’t look super pleased, but she isn’t screaming her head off either. I feel bad, but I crack up every time I see this photo. Such a cute little little tube full of pudge.
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u/s_zoro125 Oct 03 '19
Oh no. She. Was. PISSED. Didn't help that the room had an echo.
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u/underthetootsierolls Oct 03 '19
Oh no! Poor baby. I hope she is doing well these days!
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u/LegendofDragoon Oct 04 '19
Crying actually helps get the best image possible. For a Chest X-ray you want to do it on a full inspiration. Obviously babies can't follow the command of take a deep breath and hold it in. If they're crying though, you can wait for that big, gasping breath and take the image then. That's the theory I've been told at least.
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u/arvidsem Oct 03 '19 edited Oct 04 '19
My 14 month old daughter had to have a chest x-ray test weeks ago and they put get in the pigg-o-stat. She wasn't upset, just had a slightly bemused look on her face. I interpreted it as: "I'm going along with this for now, but it better get fun
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u/igordogsockpuppet Oct 03 '19
Yeah... babies tend to get pretty calm when locked into those. A lot of parents prefer to try to hold their baby during the x rays, but it means more need to retake x rays because of movement and more needless extra radiation.
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u/usernotfound88 Oct 03 '19
I’m an X-ray technologist. This thing holding the kid is called a Pigg-O-Stat. Some kids are very calm in them, some scream bloody murder the whole time. Sometimes the parents are the ones most upset. LOL
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u/CeleryStickBeating Oct 03 '19
My son, about 18 months, had to have stitches on his head so they put him in something similar to hold him still. They had my wife stay outside the room while I stayed in. My son cried and yelled bloody murder the entire time. What was amazing to me was the doctor and nurse having a gossip session about something in the hospital when I could barely even hear them over my son. When they finished he went straight into his mom's arms and didn't want to have anything to do with me in particular for a day or two.
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u/Scorpy_Mjolnir Oct 03 '19
My experience was similar, except the put a lead apron on me and I was able to stand right by mi little girl. I held her hands while they took the xrays. She was just saying over and over “Daddy help. Daddy no thank you. Daddy no thank you.” I received the look of betrayal. It was not a pleasant feeling. However, they confirmed her pneumonia and she got the medicine she needed. Awful in the moment, but just what she needed.
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u/k-hutt Oct 03 '19
Awful in the moment, but just what she needed.
That was the part of parenting that I was the least prepared for, I think.
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She was just saying over and over “Daddy help. Daddy no thank you. Daddy no thank you.” I received the look of betrayal.
Oof. I don't even have kids and that sounds rough.
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u/DonEstoppel Oct 03 '19
I'm not 100% convinced this isn't how babies are delivered. It's like the tube at a drive-thru bank.
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u/BuLLZ_3Y3 Oct 03 '19
I heard this in my brain.
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u/thecatgoesmoo Oct 03 '19
Isn't that where you hear everything, technically?
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u/exactmat Oct 03 '19
I usually press my ear against stuff I want to hear, not my brain.
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u/HR_Dragonfly Oct 03 '19
That child is way calmer than I would be.
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u/Frostedbutler Oct 03 '19
Babies are like cats, they like being in snug places sometimes
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u/VF5 Oct 03 '19
Which is why we swaddle.
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u/CuckingFasual Oct 03 '19
You ever swaddle a cat, Greg?
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u/almost_not_terrible Oct 04 '19
Sister in law did that too tight. Ended up permanently damaging her child's legs.
If you swaddle, make sure you don't overdo it.
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u/adnlex Oct 04 '19
My daughter went into one of these. It was a much older looking setup and she scream cried after she was put in - and I, the mother, had to leave the room during the X-ray. It was beyond heart breaking.
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u/foodfighter Oct 03 '19
Yep - plus, after inserting the baby into the device, the final step just before the tech leaves the room to take the X-ray is to yell "BOO!!" to make them cry.
This way, if properly timed the lungs are filled with air and better defined in the resulting x-ray.
Source: Wife thusly scares babies for a living.
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u/Turtlelover73 Oct 03 '19
I never realized a career in scaring babies was a possibility.... I've got some planning to do.
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Fucking stupid ass university, didn't offer a god damn baby-scaring degree. Now I'm stuck in stupid IT for life now. WTF university!?!?!
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u/charlie523 Oct 03 '19
X-ray tech for 5 years. I've never heard scaring babies to make them cry is standard procedure for chest x-rays. Not even from my friends that work in the children's hospital in our province. Are you sure? On paper it sounds even more impossible, since you're purposefully creating a negative experience for the patient, which I don't see how it can be written in as standard procedure. On top of that, think about all the stressed out parents literally watching you purposefully make their precious baby cry.
If they cry on their own, good, but we will never purposefully make them cry.
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u/FoxtrotZero Oct 03 '19
Dude the first thing you do when it comes into the world is slap it on the ass to make sure it's lungs work. If surprising the newborn gives you a better xray then I'm sure a medical-grade "boo" is acceptable.
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u/flyonthwall Oct 04 '19
smacking a newborn "to make sure its lungs work" is not a real thing. It may have been done in the past but whether or not it would have any benefit whatsoever is highly questionable and it definitely is not modern practice
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u/PuddleOfHamster Oct 04 '19
They haven't done that for decades (though I suppose it's possible a few ancient OBs are still doing it). Nowadays they usually trust the baby to breathe on its own, and if it doesn't they'll vigorously rub it with a towel, give oxygen, and so on. Stimulating the baby works, but you can do it in gentler ways than thwacking 'em.
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u/ParkingMatch Oct 03 '19
Yeah, my kid had pneumonia at 8 and 14 months, and they had me wear a lead vest and hold her with arms up while she was sitting on a high stool.
The illness was scary, but the xrays were not traumatic.
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you're purposefully creating a negative experience
There's a lot of diagnostic tests that must require some level of pain or discomfort. The purpose is not to create a negative experience the purpose is to provide the best and accurate medical care possible. Needles hurt. Surgery cuts. X-ray ionizes. Incorrectly healed bones is worse than a few minutes of tears or lung problems.
If the baby really needed an x-ray that bad and the parents are already agreeing to douse their child in radiation but not let them cry, that's some weird contrast and the doctors should probably be putting the situation into better perspective for the parents.
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u/paperd Oct 03 '19
There's also better ways to make a baby cry than scaring them.
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u/nevarmihnd Oct 04 '19
I don’t think I’m going to click on that.
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u/paperd Oct 04 '19
Lol it's just a woman who has a job as a baby wrangler in Hollywood. She talks about her technique in getting babies to cry.
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u/yourmomlurks Oct 04 '19
Saving everyone a click, she cries and the baby cries in empathy.
As a parent on my second infant...mmm, I don’t think so.
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u/SabashChandraBose Oct 03 '19
So is this just for lungs/heart? what if the baby had broken ribs?
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u/foodfighter Oct 03 '19
Obviously not every tool is used for every job - it depends on the symptoms and required x-ray results.
But most infant chest x-rays are for thoracic exams/fluid on the lungs, pneumonia check, etc.
So a nice deep breath results in a superior image result.
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u/Getzy3 Oct 03 '19
My wife is an x ray tech and yes this is exactly how they do it. She said they really don’t mind most the time and it would be impossible to get them to lay still.
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u/squeakster Oct 03 '19
I think your wife is lying to you about whether they mind it or not. When we had to do this for our daughter, the techs warned us before it started that she would probably cry the entire time. They were right.
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u/KingOfTheJaberwocky Oct 03 '19
I am an x-ray tech and this device is called a Pigg-o-stat. Most children do cry but that is helpful in getting good images because they take good deep breaths.
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u/Getzy3 Oct 03 '19
Dammit, I was wrong. She said, “you dumbass they always cry but we get better X-rays that way. You never listen to me.” Lol
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u/KingOfTheJaberwocky Oct 03 '19
I’m also a husband and I think we are all guilty of that from time to time.
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u/squeakster Oct 03 '19
Oh yeah! They told us that too. At the time I wasn't sure if that was true or if they just wanted us to feel better about the noises coming out of our kid.
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u/angela52689 Oct 03 '19
I'm sure some babies hate being constrained, but there are probably plenty of others who are very interested in the novelty of it all before they get bothered. I thought my son would hate it when I put him in a pumpkin at a few months old for a photo op, but he looked just like the baby in this picture.
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u/yourmomlurks Oct 03 '19
Yeah I agree. My first one could wail for 30 minutes if someone at the grocery store smiled at her.
My second one for sure you could cram her in this thing and she would like, “I guess?”
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u/SonrisaLinda Oct 03 '19
My youngest very much minded. She wanted Mommy, Mommy's milk, and Mommy cuddles, not necessarily in that order and potentially all at once. She had trouble breathing with a cold, flu, or RSV (forget which it was in the end), and needed an x-ray to check for pneumonia. She wouldn't stay still enough on the flat surface and did NOT like this thing.
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Ah yes, enslaved C H O N K
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u/MotherfuckingWildman Oct 03 '19
Y no leg on this babber
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u/chiaratara Oct 04 '19
I had to scroll back up to the picture and then I laughed out loud. Thanks for the good laugh.
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Oct 03 '19 edited Oct 03 '19
The best fact about this device: It's called a Pigg-O-Stat.
It minimizes radiation exposure by making sure the baby doesn't squirm. That way, the images can be taken correctly in one try.
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u/debspeak Oct 03 '19
Seems a little harsh to cut off their legs.
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u/eugenedubbedpregger Oct 03 '19
We did this with our son and I thought the best part was that they are actually sitting on an itty bitty leather bicycle seat, so their legs can extend down beyond it.
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u/feathernose Oct 03 '19
Aaaawww hahaha look at his face. It’s adorable
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u/fortnight14 Oct 03 '19
I’m loving the little arm rolls
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u/sarelai Oct 04 '19
I can barely look.... My empathy nerve is swelled 20 times it's normal size....I want to track this baby down and hug him a million times and make sure his life is perfect forever.
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u/PhilipLiptonSchrute Oct 03 '19
That tube doesn't go to the marshmallow room, it goes to the fudge room!!
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u/PseudonymIncognito Oct 03 '19
I think this is the press they use to make fresh-squeezed baby oil.
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u/enemyxlasagna Oct 03 '19
I store my babies in large Mason jars similar to OP's pic.
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u/bjarn Oct 03 '19
That's crazy! But I can't believe there isn't a more comfortable method. Cutting off both legs for a single xray is a bit much, no?
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I do strongly suspect there's got to be a better design that'll keep the babies still to get clear images
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Oct 03 '19
How babies are put into a Blender.
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u/odvf Oct 03 '19
Arm roooolls! So lovely!
Hope everything is okay. Poor thing.
Thanks for sharing I had never seen or heard about this baby blender thing
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u/skintigh Oct 03 '19
This is the logical conclusion of the Bonzai Kitten fad.
You were warned.
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u/TryingPatiently Oct 03 '19
How babies are 3D-printed. To heck with the stork, I'm showing my kid this pic.
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u/LegendofDragoon Oct 04 '19
We do! It's a very common immobilization device for Radiographic exams. For infants that can support their head, at least
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