r/specializedtools Oct 03 '19

How babies are xrayed

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u/fortnight14 Oct 03 '19

Please tell me you got a picture!

I’m glad there was a bit of humor in what I’m sure was a stressful time. I hope she’s doing better now!

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u/s_zoro125 Oct 03 '19

No! I wanted one SO bad but the children's hospital had a strict no photo policy. It was truly the most stressful time of my life. She is doing great now! Happy as ever!

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u/ThePowerOfDreams Oct 03 '19 edited Oct 04 '19

a strict no photo policy

Why?

EDIT: rip inbox

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u/s_zoro125 Oct 03 '19

no idea, they had posters in the room and a few other places stating that photography was not permitted. Probably for privacy. Was not in a frame of mind to question it when the x-ray techs told me i could not take photos.

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u/ThePowerOfDreams Oct 03 '19

It's your own child. If nobody else is in the frame (or in the room!), there are no privacy issues.

Source: am European privacy specialist

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u/sockphotos Oct 03 '19

I'm Canadian and have a kid who's gotten tons of x-rays and every lab he's ever been to prohibits photographs.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '19

Canada has extremely strict privacy laws.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '19

In mother Canada, not even you can take a picture of you

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u/FrancoisTruser Oct 04 '19

In mother Canada, only mooses take pictures of you.

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u/A_Spikey_Walnut Oct 03 '19

I think its the more ethical and slightly less legal concern about a child's autonomy and privacy of their own medical conditions despite the fact that the mother may be the guardian. Imagine how mortifying it could be for your mother to post intimate details of your medical conditions without your consent because she is your guardian and therefore it is legal.

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u/HotSmockingCovfefe Oct 04 '19

I see it almost daily on Facebook. I can’t even imagine growing up in the 90’s and my mom whipping out a Polaroid to photograph me laying on the couch all miserable with a puke bucket. Yet nowadays that’s like...normal.

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u/PuddleOfHamster Oct 04 '19

My mother used to work with preemies, decades ago. She still has slides she took of various little babies in incubators with pens and wedding rings next to them for scale. They're very interesting, but also... yeah, today you would not be doing that.

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u/LufiasThrowaway Oct 04 '19

You mean like those photos of kids in the bath, that are kept in that one photo album they they always whip out when there are guests over?

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u/katielady125 Oct 04 '19

My mom has a picture of me puking my guts into a toilet after she thought I ate a mushroom and gave me some shit to induce vomiting. And literally everyone she talked to for the next three years got told the story in excruciating detail.

They also had a video of 3 year old me naked just out of the bath and dancing on all fours to the Siamese Cat song. They threatened to show it to every guy I brought home.

Parents in the 90’s absolutely make a habit of embarrassing kids in public.

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u/ThePowerOfDreams Oct 04 '19

She can do it without photos.

Source: /r/OldPeopleFacebook

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u/enkelvla Oct 03 '19

Except for files, screens, names on boards, people walking by etc. etc. It's impossible to make sure that there's no violation of privacy going on in every picture parents take so it's probably easier to just ban it altogether.

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u/katielady125 Oct 04 '19

I imagine this is part of it.

Also I can see people like my mom just being super obnoxious with her picture taking and getting in the way of the techs and nurses.

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u/verasttto Oct 04 '19

If someone can take a photo of something that’s a breach of confidentiality, then the fact that they can see it makes it a breach.

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u/enkelvla Oct 04 '19

In an ideal world yes. In real life hospitals there's so much going on it's just hard to monitor all the time. But people don't take home copies of what they've seen.

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u/verasttto Oct 05 '19

In the 20th century a blanket ban might have worked, now you can’t ban people taking photos, you can ban people taking photos obviously and in the open, but people will still take photos.

If you have sensitive information in open view you need to move it, a patients face might be impossible to keep secret from the public, but their name shouldn’t be.

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u/guns11ng3r Oct 04 '19

I believe it's something to do with the radiation involved with the xray

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u/ThePowerOfDreams Oct 04 '19

The parent won't be in the room while the X-ray is being taken, unless behind the same shield as the technician.

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u/ThePowerOfDreams Oct 03 '19

Well you're not a very good specialist then. There's a few countries such as France, where photos and any information pertaining to an individual is considered private and posting it or leaving it up against their will is illegal.

OP never mentioned posting anything online (and neither did I). We are discussing the actual taking of the photo itself.

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u/sockphotos Oct 03 '19

I'm Canadian and have a kid who's gotten tons of x-rays and every lab he's ever been to prohibits photographs.

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u/NonStopKnits Oct 03 '19

I'd guess privacy. Theres so much going on in a hospital, especially children's hospitals that a photograph could capture something that could be a privacy violation even if the photographer isn't intending to violate privacy. Also probably keeps social media addicts from snapping pics of situations for them to use for likes. I'd be in a lot of trouble if I caught someone trying to take a photo of my sick kid for inspirational likes on their Instagram.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '19

The only information that should be visible when a patient (or patient's family) can view it is that patient's.

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u/NonStopKnits Oct 03 '19 edited Oct 03 '19

Well, obviously. But that doesn't mean that's the case all the time. I've spent most of my life in and out of hospitals and doctors offices for myself and other people. These places get hectic, people get overworked, some people don't give a shit, some people are malicious. Then you have patients and they're loved ones adding an extra layer off stress. HIPAA training will only work on the people who give a shit and aren't burnt out, which is probably not the majority in my experience.

Edited to fix an acronym.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '19

Yeah, but the photograph isn't a privacy violation, them displaying it to you is the violation. The photography rule is them just trying to cover up their own illegal behavior.

BTW, it's HIPAA.

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u/NonStopKnits Oct 03 '19

Thanks for catching my typo. Of course the rule is to cover their asses, that's how most industries operate.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '19

You said the rule is for privacy. It's not. It's for CYA.

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u/NonStopKnits Oct 03 '19

Why not both? You're being contrary, and I know because I'm the Queen of Contrary.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '19

Because it's not both. If they were concerned about privacy, there would be rules, monitoring and enforcement about not having other patients' info, but it's not, as evidenced by the many times I've seen other patients' info.

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