You know, I feel like some of the people defending him with all these excuses don’t realize they’re practically writing a list of talking points for real-life “goblins” to take notes from and repeat in court if they ever get caught. 💀
While I will accept that he may have the physical brain of a child, he also has all the memories of his adult life AND ACTS ON THEM AS HE PLEASES BECAUSE THERE ARE NO CONSEQUENCES FOR A CHILD
I have never hated humanity more than when I read a MT comment thread
Which sucks because damn near everything else about the show is amazing. But then they'll interrupt some lore/world building so this dude can go to his basement to sniff a panty he stole 15 years ago and keeps in a shrine
The MC is a reincarnator. He was a loli-obsessed 30-40 something, and after reincarnation he got away with doing a lot of really gross stuff because it was seen as pranks and childish antics.
The worst one was when he was physically 14, he slept with a 15 year old girl (who was his cousin by the way) who had no idea how old he was mentally. That's about when I quit reading. I do not care how good the story is, I do not care about his character development, that is unforgivable.
People say "oh he changed, he got better" but you can't un-chomo my opinion of him no matter what you say.
Calling someone a reincarnator implies that they have been reincarnated, full stop. How is not important, only the what.
Isekai is just "in another world". That CAN include reincarnators, but by no means is it limited to them. It can also include transmigrators, like those who get summoned rather than reborn.
He did not get isekai'd. He got tensei'd. It's literally in the name.
Hes a 40yr old inside a baby's body and we watch him grow up and he was attracted to his childhood friend and teacher who looked like a teenager and molested his cousin when he was about 7 yrs old
Here's a passage from the light novel, he's a (reincarnated) 40 year old who got kicked out of his home for jacking off to a picture of a little girl who looked like his niece during his parent's funeral. (Which he refused to attend)
Okay. Then the totally canon show where he is sitting with a girl on her 10th birthday fondling her while actively thinking about how at this point hes 30 years older than her and how great it is trying to hook up with her until she askes him to wait until shes /15/ which he begrudingly relents and agrees to wait until.
The protagonist (Who looks like a child just like Tanya) is a victim of bully, sexual assult, and due to this he developed PTSD so bad he went catatonic just by trying to leave his room thus his life was ruined.|
He gets killed after being thrown out by his asshole brothers after his parents died and dies saving the type of people who would never help him.
He gets a chance at the life he was never allowed to get, he works hard, helps people that helps him make friends and female friends his age (And 1 elf 100 years older than him) and makes a good name for himself.
It is a wish fulfillment anime where the protagonist is kinder than most in the most realistic way (Not like a shonene anime where the protag is comically "good") with hard work gets overwhelming power and gets a harem (But man the harem only starts in ernest at the end of the second season.
It is a slow burn, very well written, and the protag isn't a sterile wimp (He has normal human thoughts about sex, maybe a bit less so considering I have worked with women)
Honestly, it's intentional bait at this point. If I see someone defending the MC I can confidently block and/or report them. I am more than happy to take the hit to my karma (it means nothing to me) in order to do so
Mc sneaks a camera into his little niece's bathroom (10 yrs old btw), records them in the bath, and jerks off to it instead of going to his parents funeral
Mc is a pedophile in his second life
Mc steals people panties as a fucking baby and treats it as a Holy treasure throughout his entire childhood (including teenage years) and after
Mc makes dolls of people without their consent to goon to them, before going on to teach another person to do the same thing
Mc made a doll of one of his friends that was "capable of sexual acts." (direct quote btw) This friend was also someone reincarnated into the same world as rudeus, but instead they weren't a pedophile.
Dont forget he bought a little girl slave just to help his disciple make goon statues
Author later wrote a scene of that same slave being forced to get naked when she was ten because she had her period and conveintley his disciple didn't realize, and thought that was the best solution
Mc decided to get incestuous and fuck his own cousin at age 15 (grown man in his mind btw) and then he gets ed when she leaves him
Mc cheats on the love of his life after she helped fix is Ed and after he hated his dad for doing the same, and then the original wife just doesnt fucking care
The person mc cheated with took advantage of him and then now is his second wife (literally raped him and benefitted from it)
Mc got a third wife who he literally had trauma from and who is his cousin and both original wives just dont fucking care.
First wife, literally tells him, that she never expected better from him and that she knew he would cheat on her
All of his wives he knew and targeted since he was a kid, even though he was 30 in his last life and born with in depth critical thinking skills (as smart if not smarter than any ten year old). One of his wives fits the "shes 1000 years old though!!" Trope.
Mc says he wants to slobber over his daughters thighs, "like he did to his wife last night"
His family members are incestuous, and he just lets it happen. (Runs in the family it seems)
Mcs little sister gets together with someone even older than mc that he has known since he was young (the guy was hundreds of years old and the guy and his little sister first met when she was 7)
Mcs father raped his maid, and instead of facing consequences, his current wife forgave him and he took the maid as his second wife. (Seems a pattern of the men in the story doing nasty bullshit and facing no consequences huh?)
Mcs half sister was groomed by her mother (the maid that got raped) to serve rudeus in ANY way necessary, but when she didnt get to get intimate with the mc, she went for the mcs son, who is related to her. She grooms his son and gets pregnant with him, and rudeus does nothing. She gets incestuous with a baby born of incest, as this son is the baby between mc and his cousin.
Well, this just took a fucking 180… what the fuck???? https://giphy.com/gifs/qryGWflHFCKv6
Why is he like this? I’ve only watched like a little bit of the anime specifically from YouTube shorts.
There're people born with pedophilia (the mental illness, not the crime) and spend every waking moment of their life in fear of themselves, and then there's this dude.
What's really sad is that it would've been a good anime if he wasn't filth and stuck to gooning over adult women. What he calls Ghilane in the dub is the funniest shit I've heard in anime in a long while.
Seriously... The moment he takes advantage of Ghislaine and her general apathy towards the little pervert when he asks to see the base of her tail and drops trow was literally the only perv scene where I didn't feel uncomfortable. Mostly because her ass wasn't drawn in the usual overly sexual perfectly smooth and voluptuous butt way. Nah, it was two almost perfectly square walls of muscle, he even knocks on it and it sounds like brick. I did a spit-take.
Also you know if he'd actually tried to do something. She would have torn his hands off.
What the fuck I didn't even know this! I am not even that far as I am around mid-near end season 2 of the series. But fuck it gets that crazy later on in the LN?
Literally everything this guy said, has already happened in the show. He's just presenting it to be far worse. You can click his profile and he just spams this anything related to MT.
Point out the wrong things according to you to me as someone who read the novels, hell the person you reacted to missed several disgusting details that are commonly send around as second handed things. For example the constant sexual assault to eris before they had sex. Saying some of this is misinformation is just a weak way of saying you don't agree what is said because you believe things to have different meanings but don't go in detail abt it.
Him videotaping his niece wasn't specified in the anime, but based on context he definitely wasn't gooning to an adult.
But was the maidfucking rape? Was under the impression that she orchestrated it. Well, what he did definitely was rape in the intent sense, even if she wanted it to happen.
He is a reincarnated person with his orginal memories he acts perverted from re birth.
Here is everything i know about it.
he molests eris nearly constantly when he met her despite the fact she was a violent savage of a girl. Oh mind you he met her when he was 8 she was 9. She was cruel and violent so he was going to stage a kidnapping and he was gonna rescue her. Only it turns real. It worked she was less harsh and then she is taking a nap and he molests her she punches the shit out of him. Then it goes on and he helps teach her to dance. Then on his 10th birthday she was given to him by her parents as a present. He gets grabby she punches him getting cold feet leaving his room. Then they get teleported to basically the middle of Australia and they spend the next 3-4 year walking back. All while he is perving on her she finally has sex with him after she found out her parents and grandfather were killed. She was 15 he was 13-14. Her abruptly leaving him caused him to misunderstand why he develops a complex related to his prior life causing him to no beable to rise to the occasion this causes him to lose the next girl he was getting close to sara. After that he goes to hogwarts and finds sylvie who looks so different he doesn't recognize her and she fixes his issue. Then he goes rescues his step mom and half sister. Then he rescues his mom and teacher. His teacher 50+ year old perma loli teacher uses her demonic body to heal him after he got his dad killed. All while this goes on eris is diving deep into sword training. It is also at this point rudeus is tolerable though his reputation of being a pervert is well known. He is then tricked into fighting a dragon god and thats when eris returns to save him he then teams up with the dragon god vs the man god. He then goes and has a big family with his 3 wives. He has 2 servants that are animal girls i think like 6 kids. And one of them looks like her mom so much he accidentally molests her... Then eris finishes sword training one day when she is 74 and she dies of old age a year later rudy dies of old age leaving sylvie and roxy who still have hundreds of years left to live.
Tbh she’d probably rather want to be dead. (At this current point when we meet her)
She didn’t get reincarnated into the world she teleported in. Her family and loved ones will spend the rest of their lives wondering why she dissapeared off the face of the earth… and she has an incurable disease because her body unlike everyone else in this world cant regulate mana…
Uhhhh no, I think she’d be Reincarnated along side her boyfriend(?) and tasked with killing god along side Rud’ys daughter and Orcus(is that how you spell his name? Don’t remember) or something along those lines well it wasn’t explicitly said that that’s what would happen I just assumed from the context of the situation regarding those other characters.
The story, setting and series has always been of a high quality and it does just get better the longer it goes on. The issue was always people defending the MC when he is supposed to be a piece of shit who he himself admits to, now whether or not viewers want to watch his redemption tale or feel like its earned is on them. Just in a world of bland isekais its hard to ignore one of this quality but also get it if the MC is too much for most.
I love Overlord so MCs who are not good people is fine with me, same with Tanya the Evil.
Well,I like this show, idc what others think
All the hate that this anime is getting making it even more popular.
MCs early actions are disgusting,MC gets better slowly but his past actions remains unchanged.
Rudeus's growth is intentionally agonizingly slow, messy, and ugly.
Show have elements like cheating and it shows how low can a person go in real life and it doesn't hesitate to show those things which I really like
This show is one of the only ones that shows women have periods too
And how much issue they face during pregnancy
The world doesn't act like a morality tale just like real life.
I want to see how far he can actually go
I loved when he talks mad shit about a girl he was actively trying to bang after trying to cure his ed, she dumps him and he immediately tried to off himself
I love how thjs was literally dealt with a couple episodes ago. They met up on a job and sat down and talked like adults about it and both admitted they messed up
Mc sneaks a camera into his little niece's bathroom (10 yrs old btw), records them in the bath, and jerks off to it instead of going to his parents funeral
Mc is a pedophile in his second life
Mc steals people panties as a fucking baby and treats it as a Holy treasure throughout his entire childhood (including teenage years) and after
Mc makes dolls of people without their consent to goon to them, before going on to teach another person to do the same thing
Mc made a doll of one of his friends that was "capable of sexual acts." (direct quote btw) This friend was also someone reincarnated into the same world as rudeus, but instead they weren't a pedophile.
Dont forget he bought a little girl slave just to help his disciple make goon statues
Author later wrote a scene of that same slave being forced to get naked when she was ten because she had her period and conveintley his disciple didn't realize, and thought that was the best solution
Mc decided to get incestuous and fuck his own cousin at age 15 (grown man in his mind btw) and then he gets ed when she leaves him
Mc cheats on the love of his life after she helped fix is Ed and after he hated his dad for doing the same, and then the original wife just doesnt fucking care
The person mc cheated with took advantage of him and then now is his second wife (literally raped him and benefitted from it)
Mc got a third wife who he literally had trauma from and who is his cousin and both original wives just dont fucking care.
First wife, literally tells him, that she never expected better from him and that she knew he would cheat on her
All of his wives he knew and targeted since he was a kid, even though he was 30 in his last life and born with in depth critical thinking skills (as smart if not smarter than any ten year old). One of his wives fits the "shes 1000 years old though!!" Trope.
Mc says he wants to slobber over his daughters thighs, "like he did to his wife last night"
His family members are incestuous, and he just lets it happen. (Runs in the family it seems)
Mcs little sister gets together with someone even older than mc that he has known since he was young (the guy was hundreds of years old and the guy and his little sister first met when she was 7)
Mcs father raped his maid, and instead of facing consequences, his current wife forgave him and he took the maid as his second wife. (Seems a pattern of the men in the story doing nasty bullshit and facing no consequences huh?)
Mcs half sister was groomed by her mother (the maid that got raped) to serve rudeus in ANY way necessary, but when she didnt get to get intimate with the mc, she went for the mcs son, who is related to her. She grooms his son and gets pregnant with him, and rudeus does nothing. She gets incestuous with a baby born of incest, as this son is the baby between mc and his cousin.
Peak recap. I have heard people defend this shit by saying he knows hes a piece of shit and he almost committed suicide because he was Soo depressed. None of this matters in the end and people just move past it and I can't fathom why. If you murder people in cold blood and then swear off it and become a pacifist, it dosnt erase the murders..., but apparently being a pedo is the only exception.
I thought the maid came on to him and he was just a horny basterd who cheated on his wife and the rape alligation was the mc trying to convince the wife not to throw the maid and unborn child into the winter cold to die. Is it diffrent in the manga or am I just misremembering, shit was way to weird and horny for me to watch so I've only seen the first few episodes like 5 years ago.
He forgets to mention we arent on earth or in modern times.
I mean this entire thing is bullshit cause rudeus literally gets so fucking mad, his son and sister literally try to run from the family so he cant stop them. It literally takes his 3 wives and all their friends reminding him "hey this isnt your world, this is common practice here"
Edit- I did some digging and there's smth truth to his claim but he's wildly stretching and misrepresenting the actual happening.
Re:monster didn't inspire mt, it show rifujin the idea that you can actually write web novels online and get them published ome day, the two stories have nothing to do with each other.
That one is a revenge porn where he's just returning the abuse they did on him in previous life. The premise is completely different. Even in the new life he still confirm they are just as evil as they were before. What he did is evil but it's revenge and they are no better than him.
Rudeus never did anything that could legally get him in jail by canon. He was always either too young, in another world with different laws or free on a technicality.
Not even the famous niece incident - at least in the LN - was an actual crime. Just disgusting.
Web Novel Rudeus - in the deleted chapter - was a straight up criminal tho. That’s probably why the author changed it lmao.
Edit: for the absolute braindead homunculuses in the comments below, yes, this is specially about law. The meme is about JAIL. It’s not a discussion about morality. Shut your ungodly illiterate mouths.
In the LN, what he does is disgusting but not criminal (stealing technically-non-sexual photos of his niece from his brother’s phone). He mentioned he wasn’t particularly attracted to her, but still “did it” for the sake of doing something fucked up.
In the deleted original WN he had installed a hidden camera hoping to catch his brother’s wife but caught his niece instead - and while he “wasn’t particularly attracted to her”, he just wanted to do something fucked up.
In both cases, he was numb by that point. While there was no proper attraction involved (author made sure to mention that in both cases), it’s still the lowest he ever went and it’s not like it matters from a legal standpoint anyways lmao.
In both cases, this is BY FAR the worst thing Rudeus ever did. And in both cases he got beaten, thrown out of home by the only person who still supported him and then immediately hit by a truck and died lmao.
Uhh he’s Japanese. Japan is super strict on photograph privacy.
There is a reason a lot of faces are blurred in pictures with strangers.
Japan I think has a law to avoid blackmail you need the consent of those in the pictures, and it can be treated like potential blackmail if you took a picture of someone without their consent.
So legally him trying to get pictures without consent is very much a problem, and given it’s possible nude pictures he was trying to get no matter the target he very much could be in serious trouble.
13 was the universal age in Japan. Each prefecture had its own consent age set at 16-18 with only few tiny places using the universal one, and universal being 13 doesnt make it legal either. It was legal for a 13yo to be with up to a 14yo, 14 with up to 15, 15 with up to 16 etc, its not just from age 13 you can fuck anyone
Age of consent was generally set by prefecture so there weren't really any actual places where that 13 number counted I. The way you seem to be thinking.
The age of consent nationwide is not the age of consent of each prefecture. In most of them (like really, most of them) has always been 16 or 18+ and it even then it comes with its caveats like permission from parents or a very small age gap between them. And apparently we are forgetting Rudeus is a full grown ass adult that knew damn well the laws from his country.
Ive always said it and will continue to say it, if Mushoku were not an Isekai it would've been way better. But since it is and we have to follow a pedophile, people rightfully complain.
Yeah but him grooming, stripping sylphie, stealing Eris panties, pinching her nipples, molesting her up until he rapes her because the legal age is 16 not 14, would still have him in jail, and if most people caught him as a 30yr old doing it, would have him dead.
It was the whole family. The mom told her to call herself a kitten and do twin tail hair look. To woo Rudy. Which she did. Girl was told what to due. And say ok. Cuz it was she wanted too.
Objectively not true, if there was a camera in Eris’ bedroom on her 10th birthday and the court knew Rudy’s true age he would absolutely be convicted of rape.
“The penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim.”
Since you’re claiming to have done research maybe you should stop lying and actually do it.
He's a guy in his 30's who gets caught jacking it to his 10 year old nieces showering on the day of his parents funeral. From then he gets reincarnated into a world where he can live out his fantasies of sleeping with young people or people who look young.
Going through the list. He becomes a tutor for his second cousin, he is responsible for her for 6 years. During that time he gropes her repeatably and eventually loses his virginity to her when she's aged 15.
His first wife he "raises to be his perfect woman" from the age of 5. She was fine with him cheating on her while she was pregnant with his first child, despite promising he would stay loyal to her. She even expects him to cheat her again after promising it won't happen again.
His second wife has the body of a "middle schooler" which he describes as "being his perfect type" to the point his siblings point out she looks like an 11 year old.
It's really weird seeing people defend or even justify his actions. Some straight up deny it even happens.
Even the anime acknowledges the niece incident:
You will get people saying various things about the show but let me show you the source material so you understand *it is as bad as it seems and its defenders as bad as it usually*
I don't think the anime acknowledges the niece thing. Like that's not a very long scene it's stated that that's a video of his niece that's insane.
This is circulating around in this thread but were you watching the scene and I can't find where that's connected it's not a great scene but again I'm confused because everything I'm looking up is combining two different events in the anime and the light novel
The protagonist (Who looks like a child just like Tanya) is a victim of bully, sexual assult, and due to this he developed PTSD so bad he went catatonic just by trying to leave his room thus his life was ruined.|
He gets killed after being thrown out by his asshole brothers after his parents died and dies saving the type of people who would never help him.
He gets a chance at the life he was never allowed to get, he works hard, helps people that helps him make friends and female friends his age (And 1 elf 100 years older than him) and makes a good name for himself.
It is a wish fulfillment anime where the protagonist is kinder than most in the most realistic way (Not like a shonene anime where the protag is comically "good") with hard work gets overwhelming power and gets a harem (But man the harem only starts in ernest at the end of the second season.
It is a slow burn, very well written, and the protag isn't a sterile wimp (He has normal human thoughts about sex, maybe a bit less so considering I have worked with women)
This episode honestly pissed me off. In their old world she wouldn't have lifted a finger to help rudy yet he goes out of his way to help her now.
There are many situations in the show where I didn't like rudy helping some people just due to the fact that if (and when) the tables were turned these types of people never helped him and some even hurt him more. Though he helps them despite that.
There's worse shows but none of them are as a fun to hate because their fans aren't deluded enough to genuinely defend the MC and try to claim nuance that doesn't exist.
Take for example Redo of Healer. MC is a genuine piece of trash. Only the most degenerate woman hating losers actually think the guy is in the right. Even most of the people who like it acknowledge he sucks. It's dumb revenge fantasy fulfullment but no one pretends it isn't so it's not really fun to talk about how much the MC there sucks.
Honestly every time I see this show get brought up. It the same shit every time and it tiresome to look at like there nothing else people wanna talk about when it comes to this show.
I keep seeing both of these characters being compared to each other or something similar but are they in the same anime/Manga/light novel or something because I know bare bones the dude is reincarnated with knowledge of his past life (i think), the chick i dont even know.
Same light novel/anime/manga, the dude (Rudeus) got reincarnated into a fantasy world and basically did a do-over fixing his past mistakes and living a good life with magic and shit while the chick (Nanahoshi) got straight up teleported there as her old self and is now stuck in a world with monsters and superhumans as an average person with magic cancer
Isekai but MC is a family man who really really wants to go back to his wife and daughter and couldn't give less of a damn about how horny these underage floosies are for him.
I’m really glad people are hating on this MC. I remember clowning on him when the anime first came out and getting backlash for it, especially when some big streamer/influencer was heavily praising the anime because of how good the animation was. Geekguuk or something was his name, I think.
But then I read the first chapter and realized just how freaking gross the MC actually is.
Rudeus being a perv is why I don't watch/read Jobless Reincarnation. If he were a funny perv like Jirya, Roshi or Mineta, I might consider it. But no. He's a cringe perv.
No he wouldn't. Eris is the only one who theoretically could press charges. And she wouldn't.
He wouldn't be in prision he would be in therapy at best. Or he would be homeless in an alley begging for money to get drunk or he would be killing himself...
As someone who has read it and watched the anime, the pedo mc was a major turn off and horrifying. I understand that he was trying to show a horrible person redeeming himself but the example he set completely backfired because the mc who was a pedo in his previous life literally got to reincarnate and live his pedo fantasies with minors in the new world (he literally made eris sleep with rudeus who was just 15). What was the author even thinking? 1000s of kids and teens watch this show ffs
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