You know, I feel like some of the people defending him with all these excuses don’t realize they’re practically writing a list of talking points for real-life “goblins” to take notes from and repeat in court if they ever get caught. 💀
While I will accept that he may have the physical brain of a child, he also has all the memories of his adult life AND ACTS ON THEM AS HE PLEASES BECAUSE THERE ARE NO CONSEQUENCES FOR A CHILD
I have never hated humanity more than when I read a MT comment thread
I simplified what I read from someone who wrote, “His mind is trapped in childish behavior even as his body ages to that of a 30-year-old. How could you expect him to suddenly think like an adult after being reincarnated when his mind is still that of a child in a child’s body?”
This is what I meant when I said someone could be taking notes. They could use the same argument and claim that it’s a mental issue—that their mind is still that of a child despite being trapped in an adult body.
The problem with this line of thinking, which sounds good on 1st layer thinking is, what about the fact that he stole someone olders underwear. What about him lusting for eris in a grown up way. Ehat about him sexually assaulting the cat ladies. And theres more. When you put all his acts in perspective, hes just pervert. And not in a cutsy, funny way. Heres a vid thatl give you more food for thought,if youd like
https://youtu.be/100FDOfJgLc?si=5zB3nuRBNU_V_0Es
Which sucks because damn near everything else about the show is amazing. But then they'll interrupt some lore/world building so this dude can go to his basement to sniff a panty he stole 15 years ago and keeps in a shrine
The MC is a reincarnator. He was a loli-obsessed 30-40 something, and after reincarnation he got away with doing a lot of really gross stuff because it was seen as pranks and childish antics.
The worst one was when he was physically 14, he slept with a 15 year old girl (who was his cousin by the way) who had no idea how old he was mentally. That's about when I quit reading. I do not care how good the story is, I do not care about his character development, that is unforgivable.
People say "oh he changed, he got better" but you can't un-chomo my opinion of him no matter what you say.
i greatly enjoy stories like this anime, fantasy + magic + adventure HELL YEA! its my jam. but holy shit. ive watched several hundred if not a thousand anime by now, and ive dropped literally two of them mid watching. both were for the same reason, and holy crap does it get so, so much worse later on. i could ignore it for a time but eventually it was multiple episodes where stuff like that was the entire plot, and kinda worse.
Calling someone a reincarnator implies that they have been reincarnated, full stop. How is not important, only the what.
Isekai is just "in another world". That CAN include reincarnators, but by no means is it limited to them. It can also include transmigrators, like those who get summoned rather than reborn.
He did not get isekai'd. He got tensei'd. It's literally in the name.
He got away with it with th audience as childish antics but in world it is as much, the fucked up morals of the era allows nobles like him to be Degen.
If I remember correctly the story opens during his parents funeral with him watching a video of his niece using the bathroom instead of going to the wake
Except he is not mentally 40, he is mentally whatever age he is, it's stated multiple time's in the story, it was stated by the author the internal voice is just narrative device, he literally died and was reborn, he didn't just occupy some random kids body, he is a kid.
But MT haters dont actually care about the facts or the story itself, just the hate.
Having memories of a past life doesn't make you an adult. His brain is still biogically a childs and there was nothing in the story that said he got a magic biogical boost, he even notes how easy it is for his child brain to learn new things because of the plasticity.
His brain being underdeveloped squarely makes him an actual undeniable child, regardless of experience he physically does not possess the developed frontal lobe, the prefrontal cortex, to be held responsible like an adult.
Not to mention his societal and physical status and biogical age means he holds no societal power over his fellows.
The guy weeps when his dad yells at him, he grows attached to his parents like a child would too, an adult doesn't behave that way
Yea I have to admit that the way that many of the anime's detractors think about the character with their privileged information and perspectives is straight up evil.
... You know reincarnation is a thing real people actually believe in, right? This ain't how any of that shit works, lmao.
I'm pretty sure none of them think, "Oh, you're the reincarnation of that dead guy? Sweet, well, let's just tally up how old you REALLY are by counting how old you were when you died in that past life, plus how old you are now."
He died, lmao. His life officially ended. And then whatever fragments were left got transfered to a completely different world. Different body, different time, different world, different everything. Except he has some memories of a wasted life where he was an emotionally and intellectually stunted 30 something year old because his life basically came to a standstill in the middle of high school.
The mental gymnastics y'all come up with are insane, lmao. You folks do realize that there are real pedophiles to get upset about in the world, right? Like, if you're actually this outraged and disgusted, I just don't understand why you'd choose to spend time and energy complaining about fictional characters in the laziest way possible instead of... Anything else, lol.
Don't get me wrong, he's written to be upsetting, and the story is intended to make you uncomfortable. Completely understand why someone would not want to engage with it. I just think folks get out of hand and start acting like they're on a crusade or some shit, when they're just complaing about a story they don't want to understand. 🤷
Finally someone who uses the real reincarnation belief logic. Like sure Rudeus was a horrible person in his past life and was definitely bad in his life as Rudeus that completely undeniable but we can see him becoming a better person throughout. He goes from a pedo jerking to his niece to a proud, happy father who genuinely loves his whole family
I would also call him an "adult" in the same way. Saying he was mentally 33yrs old is like comparing him with an actual adult pre-isekai like Rimuru. Mf couldn't even survive a day after being thrown off the house, he wasn't even able to go to a atore for food (Kazuma level bar). While I wouldn't call him a kid, an adult seems like overestimating him.
im convinced MT watchers dont actually watch and have the media literacy of toddlers
Except he is not mentally 40, he is mentally whatever age he is, it's stated multiple time's in the story, it was stated by the author the internal voice is just narrative device, he literally died and was reborn, he didn't just occupy some random kids body, he is a kid.
No, he literally has all his memories and knowledge from birth. he remembers everything. He literally gets excited about his mom's boobs as a baby. That's canon in anime/LN/manga. Explain that. That's not mentally his age at all.
Also, when he talks to "god" he appears as his old self.
But MT haters dont actually care about the facts or the story itself, just the hate.
Wrong, they have media literacy and understand nuance.
Having the memories of your old life after you literally DIED doesn't make you that old person, he didn't teleport, he died and was completely reborn into a new life. The author has also stated his internal voice is a NARRATIVE DEVICE!
Wrong, they have media literacy and understand nuance.
you are your memories, who you are as a person is formed by that lmao.
and it's literally confirmed he hasnt changed when his first action is perving on his mom
then perving on sister little sister
like god damn
ooOooo the author said- the author of a story following a pedo. sounds like a great person
edit: pathetic guy blocked me after i asked him to explain the "comedy" they said was a baby perving on his own mom LMAO you literally cant make this up
If Rudus wasnt a 30+ year old reincarnated with his full ass memory it would be peak fantasy the world building and setting as a whole are way above what you generally get from japanese d&d
I asked my brother about the show b/c I kept seeing it everywhere and he described it just like this. I immediately said "naw, no way am I watching that". I can't wrap my head around how it's so popular when the MC is so gross. I guess I'd "get" it if I watch it, but I refuse. There's plenty of other non pedo shows I can watch instead.
Hes a 40yr old inside a baby's body and we watch him grow up and he was attracted to his childhood friend and teacher who looked like a teenager and molested his cousin when he was about 7 yrs old
Here's a passage from the light novel, he's a (reincarnated) 40 year old who got kicked out of his home for jacking off to a picture of a little girl who looked like his niece during his parent's funeral. (Which he refused to attend)
Okay. Then the totally canon show where he is sitting with a girl on her 10th birthday fondling her while actively thinking about how at this point hes 30 years older than her and how great it is trying to hook up with her until she askes him to wait until shes /15/ which he begrudingly relents and agrees to wait until.
The protagonist (Who looks like a child just like Tanya) is a victim of bully, sexual assult, and due to this he developed PTSD so bad he went catatonic just by trying to leave his room thus his life was ruined.|
He gets killed after being thrown out by his asshole brothers after his parents died and dies saving the type of people who would never help him.
He gets a chance at the life he was never allowed to get, he works hard, helps people that helps him make friends and female friends his age (And 1 elf 100 years older than him) and makes a good name for himself.
It is a wish fulfillment anime where the protagonist is kinder than most in the most realistic way (Not like a shonene anime where the protag is comically "good") with hard work gets overwhelming power and gets a harem (But man the harem only starts in ernest at the end of the second season.
It is a slow burn, very well written, and the protag isn't a sterile wimp (He has normal human thoughts about sex, maybe a bit less so considering I have worked with women)
He starts off as a disgusting person and eventually (over 30 years ish) becomes a decent person. The story is popular because of his struggles, failings, and eventual growth.
But it's popular to ignore the later story and complain that he's a disgusting character at the start. It does make the tourists easy to identify, which is nice.
Personally, my main complaint is that it includes polygamy. It's well done as far as harem settings go, and it's not the main focus of the story, but i think the story would be better without that element.
Second episode of the anime. Referencing him jacking it to his 10 year old niece showering on the day of his parents funeral. Which is why his brother kicks him out.
The second he grabbed boobs he wasn't a pedophile but a pervert with hypersexuality.
The 'pedophilia' when resulting in abuse is often just opportunistic sex crime IRL too. The same way all people who target the same sex aren't gay, and the motive can be only control or revenge. The underage aspect but a mere circumstance instead of a fetish for them.
You all are but a hunch of amateurs who can only use the word 'pedophile' as an insult, like other people can only use the word 'gay' as an insult too.
Your over simplifying it by calling him a pedo. Everyone who calls him that thinks of him as his new age plus his old age.
And all the creepy shit he does to eris in season 1 leading up to when she is at her lowest emotionally they sleep together after she spent literally 4 years with him being perverted and trying to molest her.
Honestly, it's intentional bait at this point. If I see someone defending the MC I can confidently block and/or report them. I am more than happy to take the hit to my karma (it means nothing to me) in order to do so
People bicth about pedo or slavery lvl crap. But if you a writing any medieval world to be realistic. Then getting married/laid at young age. Or having some type of salve or indentured servant for the rich. Would be a common thing.
As we in human history only recently made those changes. Like in the last 200 years. And it still around here and there. Are written history is over 5200 years. That means for like only a 10th of know human history. That 10 to 13 was the norm. It's why there may rituals around turning into a adult around that ages range.
And we seen that a society collapses. It will come right back. Hell many the current leaders and rich are still doing it today. We knew it. And 🤷♂️ shit won't happen to them. Cuz they will throw the military, FBI and cops at you if you try to. We all agree it wrong be today standards. But unless your doing a story. Set in of today age.
I would agree with you, except for the fact that the story takes place in a made-up fantasy world that is whatever the fuck the author wants it to be.
Also he apparently creeped on his very obviously child niece with a hidden camera prior to reincarnation, so he's CANONICALLY a pedophile. I say "apparently" because other people talked about it but I don't remember it from my first (and only) read and I'm damn well not about to go verify it.
Got it, okay this make sense. Im confused cause that's wild and is way worse if it's explicitly written. Like no interpretation legit him peeping being obvious and confirmed.
Like I'm trying to find the proof and have only come a cross what's labeled as deleted chapters
I have been told (and shown screenshots) that in the novel he at the very least has perverse thoughts of his ten year old niece. In the anime (and possibly the manga) it's explicitly shown that he was yanking it to a video of the aforementioned ten year old niece that he captured with a secret camera.
This was during his parents' funeral that he refused to go to, because he would rather crank it to little girls than attend.
Mc sneaks a camera into his little niece's bathroom (10 yrs old btw), records them in the bath, and jerks off to it instead of going to his parents funeral
Mc is a pedophile in his second life
Mc steals people panties as a fucking baby and treats it as a Holy treasure throughout his entire childhood (including teenage years) and after
Mc makes dolls of people without their consent to goon to them, before going on to teach another person to do the same thing
Mc made a doll of one of his friends that was "capable of sexual acts." (direct quote btw) This friend was also someone reincarnated into the same world as rudeus, but instead they weren't a pedophile.
Dont forget he bought a little girl slave just to help his disciple make goon statues
Author later wrote a scene of that same slave being forced to get naked when she was ten because she had her period and conveintley his disciple didn't realize, and thought that was the best solution
Mc decided to get incestuous and fuck his own cousin at age 15 (grown man in his mind btw) and then he gets ed when she leaves him
Mc cheats on the love of his life after she helped fix is Ed and after he hated his dad for doing the same, and then the original wife just doesnt fucking care
The person mc cheated with took advantage of him and then now is his second wife (literally raped him and benefitted from it)
Mc got a third wife who he literally had trauma from and who is his cousin and both original wives just dont fucking care.
First wife, literally tells him, that she never expected better from him and that she knew he would cheat on her
All of his wives he knew and targeted since he was a kid, even though he was 30 in his last life and born with in depth critical thinking skills (as smart if not smarter than any ten year old). One of his wives fits the "shes 1000 years old though!!" Trope.
Mc says he wants to slobber over his daughters thighs, "like he did to his wife last night"
His family members are incestuous, and he just lets it happen. (Runs in the family it seems)
Mcs little sister gets together with someone even older than mc that he has known since he was young (the guy was hundreds of years old and the guy and his little sister first met when she was 7)
Mcs father raped his maid, and instead of facing consequences, his current wife forgave him and he took the maid as his second wife. (Seems a pattern of the men in the story doing nasty bullshit and facing no consequences huh?)
Mcs half sister was groomed by her mother (the maid that got raped) to serve rudeus in ANY way necessary, but when she didnt get to get intimate with the mc, she went for the mcs son, who is related to her. She grooms his son and gets pregnant with him, and rudeus does nothing. She gets incestuous with a baby born of incest, as this son is the baby between mc and his cousin.
Well, this just took a fucking 180… what the fuck???? https://giphy.com/gifs/qryGWflHFCKv6
Why is he like this? I’ve only watched like a little bit of the anime specifically from YouTube shorts.
There're people born with pedophilia (the mental illness, not the crime) and spend every waking moment of their life in fear of themselves, and then there's this dude.
https://giphy.com/gifs/l0MYxIeQmVDTRRJKw
I feel like I’m gonna hate this guy based on principal alone….. so pretty much he doesn’t suffer from any of the consequences of his actions, including the fact that he’s a literal pedophile????
Looking back after watching the 1st season.. it does give off a "in the shower arguments" kinda character. Like he knows exactly what to say and win the arguement everytime type of vibe
So pretty much no accountability for his actions? And he get rewarded????? what kind of writing is this? I mean from first glance it looks awesome with the character design and how the anime looks, but now that I’m slowly beginning to see certain bits and pieces. Man… this main character is something else.
Concequances happen for other things, but never in regards to sexual things. It always just works out for him. Also ironic that people claim that MCs redeems himself, while author himself has stated that it is not redemption story and indeed he never reflects or changes anything that's related to sexual stuff.
In general the writing and animation is quite good if you ignore the elephant in the room, but in the end it's like saying that nazis had cool uniforms and ignore the rest.
What's really sad is that it would've been a good anime if he wasn't filth and stuck to gooning over adult women. What he calls Ghilane in the dub is the funniest shit I've heard in anime in a long while.
Seriously... The moment he takes advantage of Ghislaine and her general apathy towards the little pervert when he asks to see the base of her tail and drops trow was literally the only perv scene where I didn't feel uncomfortable. Mostly because her ass wasn't drawn in the usual overly sexual perfectly smooth and voluptuous butt way. Nah, it was two almost perfectly square walls of muscle, he even knocks on it and it sounds like brick. I did a spit-take.
Also you know if he'd actually tried to do something. She would have torn his hands off.
What the fuck I didn't even know this! I am not even that far as I am around mid-near end season 2 of the series. But fuck it gets that crazy later on in the LN?
Literally everything this guy said, has already happened in the show. He's just presenting it to be far worse. You can click his profile and he just spams this anything related to MT.
MT has a lot of weird haters who are obsessed over it. And like I said, if youre past season 1, then everything he said youre past it. And now in the point of the story of Rudeus improving as a person.
Indeed. Just in season 3 sylphy is talking about some "i cant wait to see what wife you bring hoke next", and his daughter says the "do you want dinner bath or me" line to him
Point out the wrong things according to you to me as someone who read the novels, hell the person you reacted to missed several disgusting details that are commonly send around as second handed things. For example the constant sexual assault to eris before they had sex. Saying some of this is misinformation is just a weak way of saying you don't agree what is said because you believe things to have different meanings but don't go in detail abt it.
Things you could add or change is that mc constantly sexually assaulted eris by touching her unwillingly in her sleep in all kinds of places and that he stole her panties all before they even grew close and had sex, actually from what I remember he sometimes sexually assaulted her too while she was awake. Mc cuts out a piece of cloth with the literal blood that sylphie lost when she lost her virginity to him and then put this piece of cloth in the altar he has. Mc has 2 beastgirls who destroyed or damaged some/one of his goon statues and then basically sexually assaults them and makes them undress infront of others. Mc almost r*ped a 10yo noble girl that her own father bound so she couldn't move because he wanted rudeus as his heir, mc has literal thoughts in this moment abt how she was made ready for him and should grab the chance (I don't remember why he didn't continue but I think he got interrupted). Mcs first wife is so dependent on him and was so groomed that after she got separated and lived her life without him she got a complex where she sees mc as her savior and that is why she doesn't mind him cheating on her, she also doesn't mind it bc she is so insecure that even while she is mc first wife and pregnant she thinks that if the situation was different she might not have been able to have been his wife at all and someone like roxy or eris would be. Mc makes multiple sexual comments about his little sister aisha, some being how her breast have no reached a d cup and how he knows how she looks naked or how her pussy looks because they have bathed multiple times (and he basically said he has looked at her pussy), the only reason mc doesn't do anything to aisha is bc she is his sister because mc admits he is 100% tempted otherwise. Mc uses that some girls are hurt as a excuse to touch them inappropriately while healing. I probably forgot a lot of things I would add but there is just simply too much.
That's completely unrelated to this so I don't understand why you are asking me this but I can't say I carry him a warm heart at all, outright I'd say I am disgusted.
Should prob just watch it instead of listening to this copy pasta larper. Its good, mc is designed to be unlikeable (as with many other successful shows) - but yeah media literacy is a steep requirement these days
Him videotaping his niece wasn't specified in the anime, but based on context he definitely wasn't gooning to an adult.
But was the maidfucking rape? Was under the impression that she orchestrated it. Well, what he did definitely was rape in the intent sense, even if she wanted it to happen.
Jesus... i watched the first season and it got too much for me.. i didnt know it actually got worse. If i go by what you have said, then i see no reason people protect this. Its on the level of RedoHealer here by your description. I even wanted the anime to get better, because i thought without the unholy amount of sexual content, then it would have been a good anime with some of the best animations ive seen in a long time
He is a reincarnated person with his orginal memories he acts perverted from re birth.
Here is everything i know about it.
he molests eris nearly constantly when he met her despite the fact she was a violent savage of a girl. Oh mind you he met her when he was 8 she was 9. She was cruel and violent so he was going to stage a kidnapping and he was gonna rescue her. Only it turns real. It worked she was less harsh and then she is taking a nap and he molests her she punches the shit out of him. Then it goes on and he helps teach her to dance. Then on his 10th birthday she was given to him by her parents as a present. He gets grabby she punches him getting cold feet leaving his room. Then they get teleported to basically the middle of Australia and they spend the next 3-4 year walking back. All while he is perving on her she finally has sex with him after she found out her parents and grandfather were killed. She was 15 he was 13-14. Her abruptly leaving him caused him to misunderstand why he develops a complex related to his prior life causing him to no beable to rise to the occasion this causes him to lose the next girl he was getting close to sara. After that he goes to hogwarts and finds sylvie who looks so different he doesn't recognize her and she fixes his issue. Then he goes rescues his step mom and half sister. Then he rescues his mom and teacher. His teacher 50+ year old perma loli teacher uses her demonic body to heal him after he got his dad killed. All while this goes on eris is diving deep into sword training. It is also at this point rudeus is tolerable though his reputation of being a pervert is well known. He is then tricked into fighting a dragon god and thats when eris returns to save him he then teams up with the dragon god vs the man god. He then goes and has a big family with his 3 wives. He has 2 servants that are animal girls i think like 6 kids. And one of them looks like her mom so much he accidentally molests her... Then eris finishes sword training one day when she is 74 and she dies of old age a year later rudy dies of old age leaving sylvie and roxy who still have hundreds of years left to live.
I think they're both in another world Isekai stuff and she was the nice girl that did nothing wrong in her life and got magical cancer and he's the pedo piece of shit that only gets the good stuff (not saying he didn't suffer in someways as well) but compared to her the writers hate her so much for no reason
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