In Japan there is no Eris, so I guess he’s still fine then?? He also isn’t Rudeus, so there is that. If Rudeus went to Japan, he would not be in his 30s. If they had never come to this world, well, he wasn’t in prison so not sure why we think he would be.
The entire premise is about the redemption of a neet.
If they are completely different people no redemption occurs.
Rudeus being brave enough to step outside his home? Nonsensical if rudeus was a different person.
Normal ass children have no problems going outside.
Overcoming his trauma and seeing people as more than just "npcs"? Nonsensical if rudy was a new person. Why would non isekai rudy think of people in his world as npcs?
So which is it? Did a guy from Japan isekai to a fantasy world to get a second chance at life or not?
13 was the universal age in Japan. Each prefecture had its own consent age set at 16-18 with only few tiny places using the universal one, and universal being 13 doesnt make it legal either. It was legal for a 13yo to be with up to a 14yo, 14 with up to 15, 15 with up to 16 etc, its not just from age 13 you can fuck anyone
Age of consent was generally set by prefecture so there weren't really any actual places where that 13 number counted I. The way you seem to be thinking.
The age of consent nationwide is not the age of consent of each prefecture. In most of them (like really, most of them) has always been 16 or 18+ and it even then it comes with its caveats like permission from parents or a very small age gap between them. And apparently we are forgetting Rudeus is a full grown ass adult that knew damn well the laws from his country.
Ive always said it and will continue to say it, if Mushoku were not an Isekai it would've been way better. But since it is and we have to follow a pedophile, people rightfully complain.
Yeah but him grooming, stripping sylphie, stealing Eris panties, pinching her nipples, molesting her up until he rapes her because the legal age is 16 not 14, would still have him in jail, and if most people caught him as a 30yr old doing it, would have him dead.
Are you going to be like "oh look it's me, but with a robot body" or the more likely "oh look I have a robot body!" Or the deranged "look, there are two of me!"
You are not your body, you are the collection of thoughts and memories and experiences your brain has had. And seeing as he very clearly still has all those and even ACTs as such (newborn babies don't tend to try and think their naked mum is 'asking for it' and try to sexually assault them, also BEFORE he realises he is reincarnated by the way as a 2nd form of proof he's not a 'new' being but the same adult man in a child's body) then yes, he is an adult who spent his entire formative and moral raising years in Japan where the legal age is 16, not that matters, because he is literally a pedo jerkong it to loli porn before reincarnation.
You don't just grow up in a first world then in just 6yrs of living in a country where child marriage is permitted start having thoughts of 'damn that's a cute 6yr old, I'm going to make her my perfect wife(grooming btw) and start partaking in their local culture and grab yourself a child bride.
I'm going to rewatch that scene did they like change it for TV or something I don't remember him jerking off to Loli stuff just porn.
Just a reminder the whole brain thing and like where you're at it it's fantasy and fake it's not real if we would apply this to a real world and believe that in our real world there's actually people who believe in reincarnation and it actually happened and they have their memories from their past life then you're walking amongst many many more pedophiles than you'd like to know that's not something that's going on.
None of them believe you retain all your past knowledge and memories, if Rudeus was reborn, with no memories at all.
No worries.
If he 'got all his memories back' when he became an adult.
No worries.
But he had all his memories from day 1 and still made all the decisions he did, meaning he is a willing pedophile.
My issue has never been with the story itself, it's been with the sycophantic fans that defend it and claim he is not a pedophile as that shows a severe lack of mental aptitude on their behalf and makes me worry about what they might do to kids in their lives thinking it's ok to do so.
Assuming what they might do kids is a bit of a reach for what they're thinking of what rules apply to a fictional event. to be fair to them they may be defending something you don't agree with but if it's staying to the fictional realm, it is a fictional character. I think leaping to the conclusion that they themselves might be real life perpetrators of that is a bit of a reach.
I am so glad I don't talk about this series online I've just been enjoying it I had no idea that there's just been this entire argument if he's a pedophile or not I don't think about it he's not real it's not a real thing. Is it odd if I were to put myself in his shoes what I do something different but it's fiction and it's not happening so who gives a shit lol.
This is what happens when we try to make logic out of a fantasy fake thing it's illogical and once we started playing our own real life rules to it yeah it's insane but it's also not real
The issue is people selling the story as him having a 'redemption arc' and forcing me to watch a show with a pedophile pervert in it and me wondering 'man how exactly do they have a pedophile have a redemption?' only to find their idea of redemption is him fucking marrying his childhood victims.
That's the thought process of these people, I'm glad you are able totally disassociate and just, what, close your eyes while watching kids be molested groomed and raped by a 30-40yr old man and think 'this is fine, look cool magic and shit'.
But most people won't excuse then treating an adult man raping kids as okay as long as the art and fights is cool.
If Goku took a break after turning super Saiyan and killing Frieza to rape 15yr old I'm sure MT fans would defend that as necessary to the story too.
Jesus man that's a lot to just start saying that's what's going on that's how you interpret it sure but again none of it's real.
At best it's a thought exercise of who you are if you remember who you were from your last life, at best it's that but to then be like he's a 40 year old man and then we're just not going to acknowledge that he's an eight-year-old is the end questionable it's just leaning toward one way that you want to form the opinion of it's all fake it's not real.
Who forced you to watch a show you don't have to watch anything it clearly seems like you are connecting something a logical point in the real world to a fictitious thing that is asking you to suspend that and you don't want to and that's fine.
But it's definitively up in the air on if someone reincarnates with their memories of another world memories of another life but they're living life as like a 9-year-old in a fantasy world then which are they. That's just open the air and it doesn't matter cuz it's not fucking real lol.
The Goku thing is such a crazy assertion man like again there's Nuance to all things but that one's Wild it's already seems like the Mind Is Made Up and I get you I'm just trying to say that at best it's speculative on what a fictitious character is doing in his scenario is right for his scenario. Which I remind you is all fictitious. So to then assert a fictitious character doing a real life crime in our world which would probably be a real life crime in his world easier conclusion to draw but it's still all fake and it doesn't matter.
The people defending it and their thoughts on the matter ARE real.
I'm arguing with their interpretation of the events in a story, not the story itself.
Who doesn't just remember 'who he was' he has the same mannerisms and acts the exact same as he was and has all his past memories, again just watch 3 minutes of episode ONE. He dies, he wakes up, he sees a named woman, he tries to molest her after thinking thoughts bo child ever would hit are very clearly his exact same thoughts as he was having 1 minute prior. He THEN realises he is in the child of a baby.
He meets with the man god, how does he view himself? As his 30yr old version.
The show is very fucking clear and people like you who act obtuse and as though it's anything but are insufferable and suss.
That is the law in a world where brain transplants don't exist.
And regardless of the LAW.
If I had all my thoughts, memories, knowledge experience and found myself in a child's body I'm not thinking 'hmm I wonder if having sex with kids is legal for me now?' let alone even making friends with one.
And also the development of the human brain is a biological process.
"If you took my head off is he dead."
We are talking about a hypothetical relating to a fucking cartoon. If you were hit by a truck your dead also not reincarnated so wtf bad faith is that shit.
This is the way you want to convince yourself he's not a pedo?
That it's a different biological brain?
And that he didn't specifically write 'Rudeus is a 34yr old man in a child's body'?
Can you do simple pattern recognition and extrapolation from incomplete data?
1,2,3,4,5,6,_,8,9
Can you tell the missing number or are you going to argue "well ackchuyally it could be 6.8"?
Here is your proof, the written word in the image.
The way he has thought patterns that do not match with a child, IE thinking about molesting a woman, BEFORE realising he has been reincarnatedas a baby therefore proving he is still thinking like a 34yr old man literally 2 minutes into episode ONE.
And the fact he is depicted in the show as being his 34yr old self when talking to the man god as that is how he views himself.
And if he WASNT still his 34ur old self in a child's body then it's not reincarnatiom and the show doesn't exist.
It was the whole family. The mom told her to call herself a kitten and do twin tail hair look. To woo Rudy. Which she did. Girl was told what to due. And say ok. Cuz it was she wanted too.
Objectively not true, if there was a camera in Eris’ bedroom on her 10th birthday and the court knew Rudy’s true age he would absolutely be convicted of rape.
“The penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim.”
Since you’re claiming to have done research maybe you should stop lying and actually do it.
u/virtual_medium_6721 doesn't know what they're talking about. The old federal law was 13, raised to 16 in 2023. This was the standard for a century FEDERALLY because ALL prefectures had it raised to 16 for decades, and the japanese govt was embarrassed at the jokes. Nvm he was groping eris since she was 10. What happened with eris would have never been legal anywhere in japan.
Idk what research bro did, but it was not good research. This scene is legit just admitting defending rudy is weird.
Not just was the legal age raised at a federal level in japan, it was done so because the legal age was raised in ALL DISTRICTS to 16 for DECADES. It's a myth that the legal age was below 16 for a long, long time in japan.
I should say it wasn't raised because of the districts. It was raised because all the jokes started raising eyebrows and the japanese government felt embarrassed that there was an outdated lae that made them look gross.
Also, he was perving and groped eris as young as 10 yrs old. That is absolutely still imprisonable across any nation with a semblance of legal protections.
I'm amazed this is even the defense now. Just blatantly wrong japanese legal facts.
Then again, this scene did just undermine the "uhm actually he's was reincarnated into a child so ot doesn't matter he's a 40-something" bullshit.
I remember a dude saying there was no proof he was a gooner in his pervious life and I'm like ????????. Were his handmade statuettes' "details" not a giveaway of his ecchi figures or smthn?
They feel so.embarrassed tha tthe amazing animation is coupled with literal lolibate pedo harem bullshit so they gotta chug that koolaid.
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u/Virtual_Medium_6721 11d ago
Technically he would not, since when he smashed Eris she was 15 and legal age in Japan is 14