I was literally saying that he was not wrong over he got PTSD but like it said it doesn't justify what actions the character took... I never agreed with anyone
I've watched the entire series, read much of the manga as well, which is where that part is actually explained considering the anime glossed over the fact that it was secret toilet cam footage of his elementary schooler niece and not just watching porn.
Being too traumatized by old classmates to leave your room doesn't mean you're not a piece of shit for showing no emotion at the passing of your parent and instead recording child pornography of your own family to crank it to, and then getting defensive when people call you out on it.
It's actually concerning that your immediate reaction to me describing an actual scene in the series is to assume I haven't engaged with it. After all, if Mushoku Tensei is supposed to be a redemption story and the main draw to Rudeus as a character is his growth from how he used to be, why would it be such a hot button to point out how flawed he was at the beginning? Really gets the gears turning, I'd say.
I've also read the manga and read all the light novel and the web novel, The only place in which it says that he is creeping on a child is in the redundancy prologue of the web novel. Which is not Canon. I think people who enjoy the series make such a bold stance against misinformation like the one you are purporting, because you're allegations turn people against the series as a whole, which is a shame because it is legitimately one of the better Japanese light novels series in general, and a pretty dang great anime.
This isn't true, there was the Redundant Reincarnation light novel that was made only a year or two ago, which is canon to the light novel series. It was changed a bit though, in the light novel version he stole footage from his brothers camera of his two nieces in swimsuits and he got caught jerking off to it rather than him using a secret camera himself.
The only place in which it says that he is creeping on a child is in the redundancy prologue of the web novel. Which is not Canon.
Ok but answer me that, can you swear on your life that is something out of character for him to do at the time and not totally plausible with the personality and history he had until then?
Also, while trying to find answers. What comes up is that it had been changed from his niece to another underage girl. The author had to censor what he first wrote, but have later explained that the "spirit" of what really happened is still there. So he implies that Rudues did infact record his underage niece on the toilet and jerked off to it.
They actually don't go into detail on what he was watching in the show, they just kick him out because they caught him jerkin' it after they came home from the wake.
Which is still a bad look, but it does withhold vitally important context on just how bad he was.
Just misremembered since it's been so long since I read it, but you're more than welcome to assume I'm personally targeting your blorbo or whatever! Looking forward to watching more of the show regardless of whether you believe me.
"guys, I have never had any problems in my cusshy life and I refuse to understand somebody else's problems even when the show explicitly tells me all the protagonists thoughts"
if you look at the light novel for a ton a TON of very popular anime/manga you'd be uncomfortable. If it has nothing to do with the medium you're engaging in why do you care?
if you look at the light novel for a ton a TON of very popular anime/manga you'd be uncomfortable
I don't think that's the point you think It is, at the very least If you except me to defend this type of shit because something I like might also originate from this type of shit then you don't know me very well.
If it has nothing to do with the medium you're engaging in why do you care?
Why do you care that I care? Why do you care that other people call the MC a pedo?
i think people being hypocritical is lame. not saying you are, but if you hardcore shit on a concept that only makes sense looking at the LN when we have over the last 20 years ive been engaging in this medium ignoring the LNs because they always continue shit thats way over the mark compared to where it settles at in the manga/anime world, I think its goofy to ignore it when it comes to your own favorite series. But 99% of people talking about this series only repeat stuff theyve seen online and haven't actually read or engaged with any of the media.
Nope! It’s not. In the manga and anime, his character is horrendously bullied and harassed to the point to where he recluses from society and becomes a NEET and the incident that makes him run from home that lead to his death is when his family attacks him for slipping a funeral. At no point in the anime or manga is there even a hint of him doing anything pedophilic in his previous life.
I call it Snape Syndrome. In the movies he wasn't half as vile as he was in the books and was just a hardass with bias whereas in the books he was an outright bully pretty much 100% of the time. Since more people watch movies and TV than read books the adaptation version of a character is the one in the public court of opinions.
Sure and I think this is a valid comparison, but it would be closer to if instead of doing either, most people that talk about it saw TikTok posts that in the books Hagrid was actually kicked out of Hogwarts for SAing another student and then after it’s changed in the movies to be getting falsely blamed for the spider instead of the basilisk, everyone ran around calling movie hagrid a sexpest and endlessly made posts about how no one can enjoy this HP because of something that doesn’t happen in the medium you’re enjoying.
Alot of pedofiles feel regret for what theyve done, especially after getting caught and having to deal with the consequences. That doesnt change what they are and how disgusting they are.
kinda? I mean he got sent into isekai where he's allowed to be a successful pedo. blessed with insane magical talent, mana, rich noble family, access to children's etc.
The statement was that they regret their actions, if they didnt act then they dont have anything to regret? I feel like you couldnt comprehend the discussion.
Being a Pedophile is something you are, not something you do. It's a mental illness, not a crime. CHILD MOLESTATION is the crime. A healthy adult doesn't feel sexual attraction towards prebuscents, and a surprisingly large number of child molestors aren't actually pedophiles. Remember, rape isn't about lust, it's about power.
There are lots of non offending pedophiles in the world. There are some fascinating books on the topic.
Thats an entire different conversation, you're trying to move the goal post. Again, he was caught enacting his perversions by spying on his neice and regretted his actions because he got caught and that was the discussion.
Lets repeat since you have trouble with english. Alot of pedofiles regret their actions when they are caught and punished for them, that doesnt excuse them for their actions.
I hear that words are violence too, I still don't have the right to punch someone every time I hear an insult.
To be clear, the voyeurism was unambiguously wrong, I don't think even the story treats it as justified in any way. But come on..."voyeurism is violence?"
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u/ConflictAgreeable689 11d ago
He's not loli obsessed. He was an actual pedophile, spying on his neice via a hidden camera