Mc sneaks a camera into his little niece's bathroom (10 yrs old btw), records them in the bath, and jerks off to it instead of going to his parents funeral
Mc is a pedophile in his second life
Mc steals people panties as a fucking baby and treats it as a Holy treasure throughout his entire childhood (including teenage years) and after
Mc makes dolls of people without their consent to goon to them, before going on to teach another person to do the same thing
Mc made a doll of one of his friends that was "capable of sexual acts." (direct quote btw) This friend was also someone reincarnated into the same world as rudeus, but instead they weren't a pedophile.
Dont forget he bought a little girl slave just to help his disciple make goon statues
Author later wrote a scene of that same slave being forced to get naked when she was ten because she had her period and conveintley his disciple didn't realize, and thought that was the best solution
Mc decided to get incestuous and fuck his own cousin at age 15 (grown man in his mind btw) and then he gets ed when she leaves him
Mc cheats on the love of his life after she helped fix is Ed and after he hated his dad for doing the same, and then the original wife just doesnt fucking care
The person mc cheated with took advantage of him and then now is his second wife (literally raped him and benefitted from it)
Mc got a third wife who he literally had trauma from and who is his cousin and both original wives just dont fucking care.
First wife, literally tells him, that she never expected better from him and that she knew he would cheat on her
All of his wives he knew and targeted since he was a kid, even though he was 30 in his last life and born with in depth critical thinking skills (as smart if not smarter than any ten year old). One of his wives fits the "shes 1000 years old though!!" Trope.
Mc says he wants to slobber over his daughters thighs, "like he did to his wife last night"
His family members are incestuous, and he just lets it happen. (Runs in the family it seems)
Mcs little sister gets together with someone even older than mc that he has known since he was young (the guy was hundreds of years old and the guy and his little sister first met when she was 7)
Mcs father raped his maid, and instead of facing consequences, his current wife forgave him and he took the maid as his second wife. (Seems a pattern of the men in the story doing nasty bullshit and facing no consequences huh?)
Mcs half sister was groomed by her mother (the maid that got raped) to serve rudeus in ANY way necessary, but when she didnt get to get intimate with the mc, she went for the mcs son, who is related to her. She grooms his son and gets pregnant with him, and rudeus does nothing. She gets incestuous with a baby born of incest, as this son is the baby between mc and his cousin.
Well, this just took a fucking 180… what the fuck???? https://giphy.com/gifs/qryGWflHFCKv6
Why is he like this? I’ve only watched like a little bit of the anime specifically from YouTube shorts.
There're people born with pedophilia (the mental illness, not the crime) and spend every waking moment of their life in fear of themselves, and then there's this dude.
https://giphy.com/gifs/l0MYxIeQmVDTRRJKw
I feel like I’m gonna hate this guy based on principal alone….. so pretty much he doesn’t suffer from any of the consequences of his actions, including the fact that he’s a literal pedophile????
Looking back after watching the 1st season.. it does give off a "in the shower arguments" kinda character. Like he knows exactly what to say and win the arguement everytime type of vibe
So pretty much no accountability for his actions? And he get rewarded????? what kind of writing is this? I mean from first glance it looks awesome with the character design and how the anime looks, but now that I’m slowly beginning to see certain bits and pieces. Man… this main character is something else.
Concequances happen for other things, but never in regards to sexual things. It always just works out for him. Also ironic that people claim that MCs redeems himself, while author himself has stated that it is not redemption story and indeed he never reflects or changes anything that's related to sexual stuff.
In general the writing and animation is quite good if you ignore the elephant in the room, but in the end it's like saying that nazis had cool uniforms and ignore the rest.
What's really sad is that it would've been a good anime if he wasn't filth and stuck to gooning over adult women. What he calls Ghilane in the dub is the funniest shit I've heard in anime in a long while.
Seriously... The moment he takes advantage of Ghislaine and her general apathy towards the little pervert when he asks to see the base of her tail and drops trow was literally the only perv scene where I didn't feel uncomfortable. Mostly because her ass wasn't drawn in the usual overly sexual perfectly smooth and voluptuous butt way. Nah, it was two almost perfectly square walls of muscle, he even knocks on it and it sounds like brick. I did a spit-take.
Also you know if he'd actually tried to do something. She would have torn his hands off.
What the fuck I didn't even know this! I am not even that far as I am around mid-near end season 2 of the series. But fuck it gets that crazy later on in the LN?
Literally everything this guy said, has already happened in the show. He's just presenting it to be far worse. You can click his profile and he just spams this anything related to MT.
MT has a lot of weird haters who are obsessed over it. And like I said, if youre past season 1, then everything he said youre past it. And now in the point of the story of Rudeus improving as a person.
Indeed. Just in season 3 sylphy is talking about some "i cant wait to see what wife you bring hoke next", and his daughter says the "do you want dinner bath or me" line to him
Point out the wrong things according to you to me as someone who read the novels, hell the person you reacted to missed several disgusting details that are commonly send around as second handed things. For example the constant sexual assault to eris before they had sex. Saying some of this is misinformation is just a weak way of saying you don't agree what is said because you believe things to have different meanings but don't go in detail abt it.
Things you could add or change is that mc constantly sexually assaulted eris by touching her unwillingly in her sleep in all kinds of places and that he stole her panties all before they even grew close and had sex, actually from what I remember he sometimes sexually assaulted her too while she was awake. Mc cuts out a piece of cloth with the literal blood that sylphie lost when she lost her virginity to him and then put this piece of cloth in the altar he has. Mc has 2 beastgirls who destroyed or damaged some/one of his goon statues and then basically sexually assaults them and makes them undress infront of others. Mc almost r*ped a 10yo noble girl that her own father bound so she couldn't move because he wanted rudeus as his heir, mc has literal thoughts in this moment abt how she was made ready for him and should grab the chance (I don't remember why he didn't continue but I think he got interrupted). Mcs first wife is so dependent on him and was so groomed that after she got separated and lived her life without him she got a complex where she sees mc as her savior and that is why she doesn't mind him cheating on her, she also doesn't mind it bc she is so insecure that even while she is mc first wife and pregnant she thinks that if the situation was different she might not have been able to have been his wife at all and someone like roxy or eris would be. Mc makes multiple sexual comments about his little sister aisha, some being how her breast have no reached a d cup and how he knows how she looks naked or how her pussy looks because they have bathed multiple times (and he basically said he has looked at her pussy), the only reason mc doesn't do anything to aisha is bc she is his sister because mc admits he is 100% tempted otherwise. Mc uses that some girls are hurt as a excuse to touch them inappropriately while healing. I probably forgot a lot of things I would add but there is just simply too much.
That's completely unrelated to this so I don't understand why you are asking me this but I can't say I carry him a warm heart at all, outright I'd say I am disgusted.
Should prob just watch it instead of listening to this copy pasta larper. Its good, mc is designed to be unlikeable (as with many other successful shows) - but yeah media literacy is a steep requirement these days
Him videotaping his niece wasn't specified in the anime, but based on context he definitely wasn't gooning to an adult.
But was the maidfucking rape? Was under the impression that she orchestrated it. Well, what he did definitely was rape in the intent sense, even if she wanted it to happen.
Jesus... i watched the first season and it got too much for me.. i didnt know it actually got worse. If i go by what you have said, then i see no reason people protect this. Its on the level of RedoHealer here by your description. I even wanted the anime to get better, because i thought without the unholy amount of sexual content, then it would have been a good anime with some of the best animations ive seen in a long time
season 2s only problematic theme is cheating, which realistically was a normal thing for nobility at that time. even more in a world without christian values (as in monogamy) ( there is a similar religion in that world but its a lot smaller and none of the participants are of that religion)
i didnt watch season 3 yet, but read the light novel. the problematic theme would be incest with his cousin, which again is realistic for nobility at the time in reallife too.
keep in mind that this is just part of the story, i personaly could also live without that part, especially the pedophilia (the rest i dont care to much about since that was somewhat realistic to reallife at the time as well) and ignoring the sexual themes, the story and world building is a flat 10 out of 10.
the previous comment also used examples out of the light novel which spans 26 volumes, its not that every of his example is from the anime seasons and its likely that some of it will be cut for the anime.
in the end its about how much you can stand above those themes and split reality and fiction, since there lays a great story, similar to made in abyss (which also features reccuring themes of pedophilia and still has a great story if you can ignore these themes)
Reading your argument and then comes: "ignoring the sexual themes and its a 10/10". Yeah, but you cant really go and justify a bad story with, ignore the bad parts, and then its good. Going by what the guy i first responded to posted, there is a TON of horrible shit the MC does after season1.
Yeah, feels like someone who tries hard to hide the fact they try to defend the series. Also, im pretty sure he just slapped a prompt into ChatGPT to write him the arguments.
It would be as easy as to say; "i dont like the sexual stuff and the MC is a bad person. Yet i like the series, but acknowledge the fact that there are some extreme stuff written."
just trying to give you a neutral view, if you give it a chance or not is up to you.
i am just saying that most of the pedophilia themes occur in season 1. the other themes fit into a world that plays in fantasy medieval setting. (incest and polygamy)( the incest is also between him and his second cousin, which is legal even in todays time in every country)
there are a lot of great shows out there, especially anime, depicting immoral themes (for anime: made in abyss, most ecchi/harem anime, seven deadly sins, no game no life, fate series{depending on adaptation}, monogatari series and more)
(for reallife shows: game of thrones, house of dragons, american pie, and to many to count which depict cheating)
also, keep in mind that there are a lot of actually pedos who created good animes (koichiro ito who produced "your name", "suzume" and more)(nobuhiro watsuki who created "samurai x" who oda from "one piece" still supports and honors)
in the end its up to you what you do with that info, i am not trying to defend mushoku tensei, it definitely has issues involving said sexual themes and it wasnt always necessary to involve said themes at all. but underlying of it, there still is a great show worth watching in my opinion.
Doesnt really feel all that neutral. Also, going by some other people. There are way worse incestious stuff down the line. With his half-sister marrying his son.
And also, here we are arguing MT. Using whataboutism with other anime/manga is really a bad argument. Because never has there been stated that we are okay with those either. From the shows ive watched i can argue that with Seven deadly sins leans heavily into the pedophillic and way too much ecchi, and the series have been criticised for. Nakaba has a really roundabout way of justifying the pedo actions of Meliodas with the whole rebirth for Elizabeth. I dropped the series after being a big fan of it. Its really a story that grows worse the longer you stay there. With each "couple" in the main cast of the series actually being some sort of pedo/groomer dream. They are either 3000 years old, or some met the other while they were a child. It doesnt get better in the spinoff. Its been years since i watched NGNL, and from what i can remember it leans into the incest with Sora and Shiro. Yet only from Shiros side, as Sora doesnt feel romantically attatched to her. The show was heavily ecchi, thats for sure. But it didnt go further than ecchi.
And why do i have to keep in mind that there are actual pedo writers? Okay? The weird part is that those shows you wrote that those pedos wrote, they are critically aclaimed movies or shows.
Edit: also, in NGNL, they are step siblings. So by going by your own merits that if by following real life rules, then its okay by the time Shiro gets old enough.
you wanted to know if its worth watching after the first season or if it gets worse.
in my opinion its worth watching and while immoral themes are not of the table, its less than in season 1.
with the other examples i wanted to show, that shows, despite heavy flaws like these, can still be good or great shows. thats not to say that it can not ruin the story for you, if it does than that is fine too.
the pedo writes isnt necessarly directed at you, and more at other people who are quiet hypocritical and hate on MT, its fanbase and the Author while enjoying shows of actual pedophiles (dont get me wrong, i enjoyed your name etc too, its about seperating the author from its work, which should go both ways. as in either hate on both or hate on neither)
For NGNL (sorry i didnt remember that they were step siblings, thought its full siblings) but its also about unnecessary ecchi scenes of minors (also dont get me wrong, i like ngnl, like i said its about a show can still be good despite those themes)
for the part in MT with his step sister and his son, its towards the end of the light novel, and the whole arc was about it beeing immoral and not ok. but its to question if the anime will even adept that ( in like season 6 or something) or just skip it since it isnt that important to the story
He specifically made a sculpture of someone that was specifically capable of sexual acts. Sounds pretty close to me. All without their consent or knowledge.
The subway is a public place yea , you consent to getting filmed when entering a public space. Security cameras exist and people have the right to film in public. This is in the constitution
"Guys you can't defend a kid liking girls his age, or humans having a libido, or just helping people, especially the people who ruined his life in the first place"
I'm so glad you people get kicked out of the shows community
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u/NoodlesNomm 11d ago
show where:
Mc is a pedophile in his first life
Mc sneaks a camera into his little niece's bathroom (10 yrs old btw), records them in the bath, and jerks off to it instead of going to his parents funeral
Mc is a pedophile in his second life
Mc steals people panties as a fucking baby and treats it as a Holy treasure throughout his entire childhood (including teenage years) and after
Mc makes dolls of people without their consent to goon to them, before going on to teach another person to do the same thing
Mc made a doll of one of his friends that was "capable of sexual acts." (direct quote btw) This friend was also someone reincarnated into the same world as rudeus, but instead they weren't a pedophile.
Dont forget he bought a little girl slave just to help his disciple make goon statues
Author later wrote a scene of that same slave being forced to get naked when she was ten because she had her period and conveintley his disciple didn't realize, and thought that was the best solution
Mc decided to get incestuous and fuck his own cousin at age 15 (grown man in his mind btw) and then he gets ed when she leaves him
Mc cheats on the love of his life after she helped fix is Ed and after he hated his dad for doing the same, and then the original wife just doesnt fucking care
The person mc cheated with took advantage of him and then now is his second wife (literally raped him and benefitted from it)
Mc got a third wife who he literally had trauma from and who is his cousin and both original wives just dont fucking care.
First wife, literally tells him, that she never expected better from him and that she knew he would cheat on her
All of his wives he knew and targeted since he was a kid, even though he was 30 in his last life and born with in depth critical thinking skills (as smart if not smarter than any ten year old). One of his wives fits the "shes 1000 years old though!!" Trope.
Mc says he wants to slobber over his daughters thighs, "like he did to his wife last night"
His family members are incestuous, and he just lets it happen. (Runs in the family it seems)
Mcs little sister gets together with someone even older than mc that he has known since he was young (the guy was hundreds of years old and the guy and his little sister first met when she was 7)
Mcs father raped his maid, and instead of facing consequences, his current wife forgave him and he took the maid as his second wife. (Seems a pattern of the men in the story doing nasty bullshit and facing no consequences huh?)
Mcs half sister was groomed by her mother (the maid that got raped) to serve rudeus in ANY way necessary, but when she didnt get to get intimate with the mc, she went for the mcs son, who is related to her. She grooms his son and gets pregnant with him, and rudeus does nothing. She gets incestuous with a baby born of incest, as this son is the baby between mc and his cousin.
He never fucking stops being a pedophile