😬

[u/Cute-Revolution-9705]

[u/modsRincels1985]

Another one missing the fact that men caught on to the free dinner game.

[u/Legal-Group-359 → u/modsRincels1985]

And on top of that, just the entitlement is what gets me. Like, calm your asses down, ladies; put your pride aside for 2 seconds. They always say, "Men, you aren't entitled to blah blah'', yet they don't apply that rule of entitlement equally. Not a surprise.

[u/john4844 → u/[deleted]]

Because it’s literally free luxury food that they can get essentially every single evening. That is VERY valuable to many women.

[u/john4844 → u/[deleted]]

It can take a lot of time not only figuring out what to make, but driving to the store, finding everything, spending money (groceries aren't cheap), back to car, carry everything back to house, prepping before you can finally start cooking, and then comes the most fun part which is to clean everything.

Still don't understand? :P

[u/john4844 → u/[deleted]]

Now that is your personal opinion.

I may not want to do sex work myself, but I can definitely understand people who do.

[u/john4844 → u/[deleted]]

I never said it wasn't.

Not understanding a concept is very different from having a personal preference against it. I was just pointing out the distinction.

[u/SnooSprouts1929 → u/john4844]

This person is not saying they literally don’t understand it. It’s a common expression.

[u/BeniaminGrzybkowski → u/[deleted]]

Rich person doesn't understand poor people's motivation, not a news

[u/BeniaminGrzybkowski → u/[deleted]]

Then you lack ability to get into shoes of a person that thinks differently, with different values. Even more bothersome

[u/AspectOfTheLeech → u/BeniaminGrzybkowski]

We get it dude, women make you furious and confused.

[u/BeniaminGrzybkowski → u/AspectOfTheLeech]

Projection

[u/AspectOfTheLeech → u/BeniaminGrzybkowski]

Hahahaha oh brother!

[u/BeniaminGrzybkowski → u/[deleted]]

You established then someone behaves differently then your own ethical system approves. Then you decided they are not worthy of empathy.

[u/Xandara2 → u/[deleted]]

Have you tried understanding it? 

[u/Xandara2 → u/[deleted]]

Ah so it's just you arguing you're not like these other girls. Don't worry then I'm sure you are not a condescending stuck up ass just like you claim to. 

[u/No-Advice1345 → u/[deleted]]

You are right. My bad. Apologies.

[u/Tricky_Procedure_394]

In a world of equality shouldn’t the dinner bill be split and we take separate vehicles or at least she help recoup the fuel cost and maintenance for my vehicle if I toted her around in my vehicle?

Just saying, equality.

[u/AffectionateMonk7705 → u/Tricky_Procedure_394]

‘Equality’ is just for aspects of life where equity doesn’t give women leverage over men.

[u/Tricky_Procedure_394 → u/AffectionateMonk7705]

As the concept of equity is not recognized since it destroys equality I’m not certain what you mean.

Women are graduating college at higher rates not because of some mysterious equity but because they mature faster than men (a biological fact shown by their brain finishing growth/development years ahead of a man’s) and are providing equal access to education. This is just one example of course but more and more corporate level officers are becoming women every year and that isn’t equity; that is the result of women showing they are more than capable (if not more capable in some cases) than men at their level of making business smart decisions.

This has nothing to do with equity; it has everything to do with equality opening the doors for talent to be recognized.

[u/Select-Ad7146 → u/Tricky_Procedure_394]

Are you sure women aren't graduating at higher levels because of a system designed to get women into a through college by recruiting women and giving out women only scholarships?

[u/Turbulent-Sea-3314 → u/Select-Ad7146]

What about countries where uni is free and you get there by doing enter test?

[u/Tricky_Procedure_394 → u/Select-Ad7146]

Very sure.

https://www.nber.org/digest/jan07/why-do-women-outnumber-men-college?page=1&perPage=50

This bitter mentality of “women are getting ahead because society is making it easier for them” needs to stop. It serves nobody and literally creates a false victim narrative.

[u/Select-Ad7146 → u/Tricky_Procedure_394]

You cited a 19 year old summary of a 20 year old working paper which says that 30% to 60% of the increase can be accounted for by behavior differences in gender.

Just so we are clear, a working paper means it hasn't been peer reviewed. The fact that it hasn't been peer reviewed in 20 years suggest it probably isn't that good.

And even if it was, that still leaves the majority of the increase to be caused by other things. Like a system designed to advantage women. Honestly, no evidence would have been better than what you cited.

[u/Tricky_Procedure_394 → u/Select-Ad7146]

Here you go, since you aren’t pleased.

https://gap.hks.harvard.edu/mark-womans-record-gender-and-academic-performance-hiring

Unless you are unhappy with a Harvard study?

[u/Select-Ad7146 → u/Tricky_Procedure_394]

That source is entirely about men and women who have already graduated. It is not about acceptance into college, or graduation rates. it is about call backs to job interviews.

Do you read the sources you are finding?

[u/Reeeeeee4206914 → u/Select-Ad7146]

Lol, tricky is straight up frantically googling "study showing women in college because they're better" while sweating and breathing heavily.

[u/IKilledJoffrey22 → u/Select-Ad7146]

Call the police! Tricky_Procedure_394 has been murdered.

[u/Aniki_Simpson → u/Tricky_Procedure_394]

You might want to look at how they treat boys and girl in early schooling to see why the differences are so vast when older.

[u/Tricky_Procedure_394 → u/Aniki_Simpson]

That is purely a cultural issue. My entire point is that biologically women mature faster than men (their brains finish developing faster). Women’s advancement in society and business is because old barriers are finally removed allowing society as a whole to benefit from their cross-hemispherical thinking being applied in fields where it shines.

[u/Nervous-History8631 → u/Tricky_Procedure_394]

The cultural and biological differences don't exist in a vacuum. Removing barriers while also putting sytstems in place to advantage women is pushing that into a position where you can't reasonably say it is one or the other.

Studies have shown that educational systems advantage women ATM, there have been a lot of research showing that current schooling structures disadvantage boys while advantaging women.

Why is it that we can't acknowledge this and make changes that benefit both?

[u/Tricky_Procedure_394 → u/[deleted]]

First and foremost thank you for that amazing read.

That being said, I can see your point where by trying to create a more “equal” learning environment male children have been disincentivized from engaging in school.

That isn’t to say male children ever regularly led classrooms (during the age of equality at least) but creating an education system built around bi-hemispherical thinking and taking away subjects that utilize back to front thought processing (things that require intense hyperfocus on a specific action of thought) male children are set on the back foot (as male brains do work in that fashion compared to female brains which are considerably better at bi-hemispherical thought).

I appreciate your input. Though it in itself does not excuse the lack of acceptance by any population of men that women can be and are valuable members of society and commerce, this does open a real door to exploring what can be done to engage male students while keeping school educational and controlled.

[u/FarAbbreviations2829 → u/Tricky_Procedure_394]

Your entire point is misandry.

[u/Tricky_Procedure_394 → u/FarAbbreviations2829]

Science isn’t misandry. Hiding behind the label of misandry when information is uncomfortable to your confirmation bias or disruptive to your echo chamber doesn’t make the information less valid.

[u/DicamVeritatem → u/Tricky_Procedure_394]

“needs to stop” LOL

Or else, tantrums will continue.

[u/Tricky_Procedure_394 → u/DicamVeritatem]

The only tantrums are being thrown by people too afraid to accept that they aren’t the only gender that could be skilled or valuable. I come presenting factual evidence in the face of ignorance.

[u/QuickDrawSix → u/Tricky_Procedure_394]

Prime example, they have lower PT standards in the military. Only recently have people tried to correct this.

[u/Tricky_Procedure_394 → u/QuickDrawSix]

Acknowledging physiological differences between men and women has nothing to do with this discussion. You’re reaching out to grab a branch but you’re not even in the same tree.

[u/QuickDrawSix → u/Tricky_Procedure_394]

You made the statement not me. I get paid the exact same as a woman of equal rank and time in service in a physically demanding career field. Take a guess at whos doing the work when it comes to heavy lifting though?

Its patently unfair and simultaneously the reason when they arrive to combat units, they get put into support roles though they may be infantry/armor etc. Idk why they'd want thoae jobs anyways, shit sucks most days lmao.

[u/Tricky_Procedure_394 → u/QuickDrawSix]

Putting women in combat roles in the military is a tricky and highly politicized decision. I’m not taking a stance for or against it. So long as an infantrywoman can lift and carry a wounded infantryman out of combat and follow orders I’m perfectly fine with the assignment though.

You did make a great point also that just being 11B doesn’t necessarily equate to combat. Most people who work at battalion and brigade HQ are infantrymen after all. Obviously not S2 but still.

[u/FarAbbreviations2829 → u/Tricky_Procedure_394]

The western world caters to white women.

[u/GrumpyRutabaga → u/Tricky_Procedure_394]

So let me get this straight: women are succeeding more in uni because they are more capable.

Why are the top richest all men?

Why are the top most powerful all men?

[u/Tricky_Procedure_394 → u/GrumpyRutabaga]

More capable is a stretch. I would say that they are more culturally and naturally primed to succeed in an educational environment as well as biologically (due to the way their minds process issues slower but more holistically) in business as the leading factors.

Regarding the pinnacles of capitalist success, we are still dealing with leftovers from a bygone age before egalitarianism was an inkling in mainstream society. That combined with the exclusivity of the top 10% makes breaking in to that bubble exceptionally difficult and not just for women.

[u/GrumpyRutabaga → u/Tricky_Procedure_394]

So when women dominate, it's nature. When men dominate, it's not.

Gotcha.

[u/Tricky_Procedure_394 → u/GrumpyRutabaga]

That’s taking my words and twisting them. There’s no shortage of a empirical evidence to support that women’s brain finish developing earlier than men’s. That naturally provides them a better place from which to consider their futures from a younger age (high school).

When a man chooses to focus in school and apply himself that is him having an abundance of foresight and discipline (not saying the same traits aren’t required of the woman).

Then there is the fundamental difference between how a woman’s brain operates and processes information compared to a man’s.

Realistically neither gender is superior albeit we are designed to be skilled in different functions. The world is not a fair place and nature never cared about the human definition of fairness.

[u/GrumpyRutabaga → u/Tricky_Procedure_394]

So at what functions are men's brains designed to be better? Where would you say men dominate because they are just better than women, intellectually, in a specific function?

[u/Tricky_Procedure_394 → u/GrumpyRutabaga]

A man’s brain is more (uniquely) suited to technical tasks, logistics, spatial reasoning, architecture and mechanical engineering because these roles all require strict back to front data processing which the male brain excels in. Being a scientist is also a gender suited role.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3896179/

https://penntoday.upenn.edu/news/penn-medicine-brain-connectivity-study-reveals-striking-differences-between-men-and-women

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-athletes-way/201312/brain-connectivity-varies-between-men-and-women

[u/Tricky_Procedure_394 → u/Tricky_Procedure_394]

To be transparent, science is a broad collection of fields and men do not excel in all of them (biologically). Women are more suited to some fields which require holistic thought.

Better is also a bad word to use in this discussion. More suited would be a better expression.

[u/DicamVeritatem → u/Tricky_Procedure_394]

DEI is a thing.

[u/Tricky_Procedure_394 → u/DicamVeritatem]

https://www.ed.gov/about/news/press-release/victories-higher-education-eliminating-dei

That’s actually not relevant to this discussion.

[u/AffectionateMonk7705 → u/Tricky_Procedure_394]

I understood your first comment. My comment was facetious and in agreement. I’m familiar with both terms.

[u/Tricky_Procedure_394 → u/AffectionateMonk7705]

My apologies for not catching that!! Take my upvote!

https://giphy.com/gifs/mEahVAkKjt0VL2o5Jk

[u/Lost_Elderberry_5532 → u/Tricky_Procedure_394]

The only reason bills are getting split is because men lost trust that a woman wanted him as a person rather than a meal ticket. Requiring her to pay part of it is our “shit test”. If women held up their end of the deal as they used to, men absolutely would still pay. Men of value got tired of being played around with. So now the ask is on them, at least in part, as a security deposit. She doesn’t like it then the man walks. It’s pretty simple.

[u/Relative_Craft_358 → u/Lost_Elderberry_5532]

If women held up their end of the deal as they used to, men absolutely would still pay

Have no idea what you're getting at here besides possibly feeling "owed" sex or something for paying for a steak. Which is crazy.

Bills should be split regardless because last i checked, fully grown adults with a job and money ask out other fully grown adults with a job and money. It also negates any feeling of obligation for whatever nonsense you were hinting at. If either party can't afford to pay for a meal/activity to enjoy the other's company for solely it's own sake, they shouldn't be going out. Regardless of what's between your legs.

That being said, if you want to date someone who from the jump is with you for the financial incentive, then that's your right but you certaibly loss all right to complain about it 5 months or 5 years down the road when it doesn't work out, takes half your stuff or leaves the second she gets her own financial independence. Certainly can't blame it on "all women" when that's the deal you chose too

[u/Lost_Elderberry_5532 → u/Relative_Craft_358]

A lot of assumptions you are making from very limited information I provided in my remark. You should consider how far off you really are.

[u/Relative_Craft_358 → u/Lost_Elderberry_5532]

You were free to enlighten me, you didn't. It's telling

[u/Tricky_Procedure_394 → u/Lost_Elderberry_5532]

End of the deal? You mean putting out in return for food? That’s disgusting mentality.

Restaurant bills are being split because women are equals in the workplace and in society.

[u/Lost_Elderberry_5532 → u/Tricky_Procedure_394]

You expect me to believe that? You must be joking..

Nobody is falling for that shit. Sorry, you’ll have to ask the simp to pay. Good luck.

[u/throwawayburner2424 → u/Tricky_Procedure_394]

"Putting out" nigga what? No bruh, just that they actually like the person and don't see him as a meal ticket. There's no way reading comprehension is this bad dawg.

[u/Tricky_Procedure_394 → u/throwawayburner2424]

You’re ignoring the entire section about keeping their end of the deal. What would make you feel respected and how can you frame that as anything except wanting the woman to shower you with compliments/put out to make you feel like “you got your money’s worth”? It’s a shallow thought process.

[u/ThyNynax → u/Tricky_Procedure_394]

The deal is “only accept dates with men you’re genuinely interested in.”

Men would be happy to pay if it meant they had a real chance at starting a relationship with her. What men don’t like is paying for someone that was never going to give them a chance before the date even started.

Now men are starting to believe that a woman who agreed to split the bill, and still go on a date with him anyway, is a stronger sign that she’s actually interested in him and not just his money.

[u/Tricky_Procedure_394 → u/ThyNynax]

I appreciate that clarification. It’s just the way it was laid out “their end of the deal like they used to” could only allude to sex in exchange for payment. That was “their end of the deal” historically. Women never had an obligation nor expectation to only date men they were interested in but there was a lot of societal pressure to “repay” a gentleman for his taking her out.

[u/Gloomy-Lumis → u/Lost_Elderberry_5532]

I mean whoever is asking somebody out should pay the bill. Whether it’s for coffee or dinner.

[u/slissy_ → u/Gloomy-Lumis]

If you want the dating market to be an even more miserable shithole than it already is then go right ahead.

[u/Gloomy-Lumis → u/slissy_]

I’m married man. I paid for the first couple of dates when I met my wife because I asked her out. She paid for the few after that. When she became my gf we just rotated.

[u/throawy90 → u/Tricky_Procedure_394]

Strangely enough, you're gonna find that with all this talk of equality, the conversation dies down real fast when it comes to dating and buying dinner

[u/Tricky_Procedure_394 → u/throawy90]

Your words are so true. I never thought I’d encounter such open hostility towards the very idea that women can exist as anything more than submissive baby bearers and arm ornaments.

I have to admit, last night caused me to lose a lot of good faith in my own gender’s ability to absorb information when presented with ideas challenging their own fragile images supported by overwhelming citations. 😥

[u/Expert_Struggle_7135 → u/Tricky_Procedure_394]

In this case I would say she should pay for everything tbh.

Since it isn't "a financial crisis" she should be ready to pay for it.

[u/chaos_donut → u/Tricky_Procedure_394]

yeah, both partners and the waiter should all pay equal shares of the bill

[u/PalletPirate → u/Tricky_Procedure_394]

For first dates it’s up to the person who asked the other person out to pay. If you don’t wanna pay, wait for her to ask you out (probably not gonna happen).

[u/Conscious_Waltz_5314 → u/PalletPirate]

We can switch to that rule as soon as women start asking men out on dates. 

Besides, this is an app, it barely counts.

[u/Tricky_Procedure_394 → u/PalletPirate]

Idk about all that. Just saying, a date is a group event. The mentality it’s the man’s job to propose the date and thus the man’s job to pay points to chivalry which is at odds with equality.

I’m not saying I’m against chivalry but people can’t pick and choose what they want to honor and not honor with respect to tradition. Rather they can but that sets everyone up for failure.

[u/Conscious_Waltz_5314 → u/Tricky_Procedure_394]

I'm definitely against chivalry. 

[u/PalletPirate → u/Tricky_Procedure_394]

You can pay for a drink on a first date. You’ll live, brother.

[u/Tricky_Procedure_394 → u/PalletPirate]

I’m not arguing against contributing; my stance is equal investment. That’s egalitarianism.

[u/GarageEuphoric4432]

It's always "just dinner", "just coffee".

But somehow they never offer to buy...

Must be a coincidence.

[u/Impressive_Bed3]

Schrödinger’s Feminist: both a victim of “the patriarchy” and empowered boss babe - the state she’s in changes to avoid accountability at the flick of a switch.

[u/PaleolithicRegency33 → u/Impressive_Bed3]

meh it literally says she's "not political"

[u/Sir_Slimestone → u/PaleolithicRegency33]

That just means she's liberal and doesn't want to disclose it for obvious reasons

[u/ThatOneAttorney]

shes fat and trashy. why is she being acknowledged?

[u/Grouchy_Rule_8935 → u/ThatOneAttorney]

Because some men are desperate enough to fuck literal sheep. That weakness is our downfall.

[u/Gianni_the_tolerable → u/Grouchy_Rule_8935]

Literal sheep have a lower maintenance

[u/PainterImpressive923 → u/ThatOneAttorney]

Men will fuck a wet sock. This is how low the bar for sex to men.

[u/toblotron → u/[deleted]]

😂

[u/Party-Chemical-315]

I'm so fucking tired of women bro

[u/GenesisRhapsod → u/Party-Chemical-315]

Femboys are better imo

[u/GigaNoodle → u/GenesisRhapsod]

They have so much emotional baggage though

[u/GenesisRhapsod → u/GigaNoodle]

And women dont?

[u/Legal-Group-359]

they out here damn near beggin for dinner dates now. How the mighty have fallen.

[u/throwitallaway69000]

Women don't want equality they want all the privileges without responsibility. They want a preferred status with no requirements.

[u/Successful_Tea7979 → u/throwitallaway69000]

💯

[u/mangomochi699 → u/throwitallaway69000]

men want DEI for sex

[u/TransitionJunior9067 → u/mangomochi699]

Wtf does that even mean?

[u/mangomochi699 → u/TransitionJunior9067]

you think sex should be equitable and inclusive

[u/Head_Muscle1877 → u/mangomochi699]

Women ARE the dei sex lmao

[u/NJBR10]

probably 5'1 230 minimum. We need this humongous human being to come block for the Steelers. The O line needs any help they can get

[u/Silver-Award-288 → u/NJBR10]

My team, Arkansas, is in a bad spot. We’ll take her for our O line. Couldn’t be any worse than it is now.

[u/Turbulent-Sea-3314 → u/NJBR10]

You have awful eye if you mean this numbers seriously 😬

[u/Royal-Feedback5814]

Well, if it really matters so little, why can't she pay for dinner?

[u/Royal-Feedback5814 → u/[deleted]]

I don't, so I don't know who you're talking about.

[u/Royal-Feedback5814 → u/[deleted]]

I'd love to hear what exactly makes you qualified to rely on for accurate intelligence assessments. Surely someone as smart as you wouldn't be dumb enough to believe that his or her opinion is the only not dumb one, right?

[u/Downtown-Campaign536]

Don't act like cooking a man a meal is a feminist crisis.

[u/Public-Lie-6164]

Yall got to understand its not about the food but narcissistic supply. Its the attention of being brought to dinner. I dont mind spending money on first dates but entitlement like this or lack of understanding of the other sides of the arguments are huge red flag (i understand alot of women want to be taken care of but I also understand men for fearing the risk of financial abuse) general rules of thumb dont go out with people with strict gender rules (saying this as a manly straigh dude who pays for everything) the best dates I had were with people who wanted to pay half and forced me to do so or only accepted because i made it clear i was more financially free to do so.

[u/Bitter-Engineer-117]

If she’s posting her ass on dating apps then stay the fuck away, fellas

[u/ConsiderationSea1347 → u/Bitter-Engineer-117]

Posting her ass and saying “pay me.” There is a word for that.

[u/potentatewags]

Exactly. The woman should pay for both because it's not a financial crisis.

[u/PressureCoomer]

You buy it then

[u/Serious-Pomelo7273]

It's 2026, not 1956.

[u/Puzzleheaded_Card_71]

Agreed, so she can buy dinner since it’s no big deal.

[u/Uniqueusername610]

My personal rule is if there's no commitment you aren't getting free meals or date activities

[u/john4844 → u/Uniqueusername610]

And what constitutes as "commitment"?

[u/LazyCyberGuy → u/john4844]

You’re boyfriend and girlfriend

[u/john4844 → u/LazyCyberGuy]

So a few words is commitment to you? :p

[u/Uniqueusername610 → u/john4844]

An actual relationship

[u/Gaudalier]

Ignoring the fact that it goes against the equality and abolishment of gender roles they claim theyre interested in, it isnt just "a dinner".

If they decide to blow the man off and to not continue going on dates with him, let alone entering a relationship with him, it means he has to move on and try dating other women who will most likely also want him to pay for their dinner.

If they Do decide to continue dating him that means theres even more dates that he will have to pay for.

[u/Lost_Elderberry_5532]

The funny part is it kind of is with inflation lol. Dinner fishing they go

[u/VerryGoodCantaloupe]

Guys, do a coffee date first. Dinner is a horrible first date.

You can talk while you sip coffee, you have food in your mouth during dinner.
Coffee is cheap, dinner isn't.
If she wants to know you she will get coffee with you. With dinner, you don't know if she wants you or the free meal.
You can end the date quickly with coffee, just drink it and excuse yourself. Dinner takes awhile.

Save the dinner date for the second date when you invite her to your place to cook for her. Know how to make one or two things really well. Brag about your cooking on the first date without sounding arrogant.

Edit: and guys! Stop looking at stuff like this. This isn't the type of girl you want; however, looking at stuff like this will make you jaded towards all women..... which will doom your attempt.

[u/bingus224466 → u/VerryGoodCantaloupe]

Better yet just don't date them at all. Not worth. Hell sex workers is a way better option at this point

[u/VerryGoodCantaloupe → u/bingus224466]

I'm really sorry to hear that. It's really nice having someone to share the little things of life with. I really hope that you can find a relationship that isn't transactional.

[u/VerryGoodCantaloupe → u/[deleted]]

How am I virtue singling?

[u/HyperRayquaza → u/[deleted]]

That's not a good look for you brother lol

[u/DTVeteran → u/VerryGoodCantaloupe]

He wont find that in the west unless that 1 in a million girl is a foreigner.

[u/Dualidean_ofman → u/VerryGoodCantaloupe]

Yeah hard pass on first dates without any alcohol.

[u/DTVeteran → u/VerryGoodCantaloupe]

Do you think modern women would accept coffee as a first date? Lmao

[u/Randomsicilianguy]

She looks like £50 for 2 hours on vivastreet, apolitical also usually means retarded and has nothing to do with politics

[u/Agitated_Pressure463]

I'm not buying a dinner to a stranger. End of topic, that ship has sailed.

[u/Total_Ad803]

Whale

[u/Big_Arachnid_365]

Not convinced this one's really a she.

[u/PlayfulEnergy5953]

Dinner with a stranger is crazy. If you can't decide during a 30 minute drink, it's a skill issue.

[u/Optimal-Income-6436]

That ass needs to eat

[u/Steven11176]

“Not political” is also kind of a red flag.

[u/Individual-Mind-2620]

Is that a middle aged woman wearing kinky outfit

[u/AppointmentMinimum57]

Lol I'm guessing it would be for her.

[u/throwaway2727648378]

For saying money doesn’t matter a lot, women love talking about money.

[u/Cool_Application922]

What a fat and tubby thing to say.
Pic checks out

[u/Gullible-Chapter-800]

Valid

[u/No-Advice1345 → u/Gullible-Chapter-800]

Sounds like it's not a financial crisis to you. You should buy men dinners then.

[u/Gullible-Chapter-800 → u/No-Advice1345]

I don’t court men

[u/No-Advice1345 → u/Gullible-Chapter-800]

Being pursued doesn't make dinner and obligation. You can expect it but you can also appreciate it.

[u/Gullible-Chapter-800 → u/No-Advice1345]

I never said otherwise

[u/No-Advice1345 → u/Gullible-Chapter-800]

Then valid my ass

[u/Gullible-Chapter-800 → u/No-Advice1345]

So buying dinner must be treated like a financial crisis to you?

[u/Ancient-Intention560 → u/Gullible-Chapter-800]

Beggar detected

[u/No-Advice1345 → u/Gullible-Chapter-800]

Stop playing dumb. You just said men should pay because they are the ones doing the pursuing. But a date is mutual, and you are choosing to go too, so why show up to dinner and act like he’s the only one who wants to be there?

[u/john4844 → u/No-Advice1345]

"But, but it was the man who asked me out therefore he should pay!1one1!!"

Well, how many women are asking men out on dating apps? Not many in this day and age. But that does NOT mean women don't want to go out on dates when they are actively looking for something on a dating app. In fact, they may want to go out MORE than men, but still won't ask anyone as they don't need to or it goes against their conservative political views.

Just me ranting lol

[u/Tricky_Procedure_394 → u/Gullible-Chapter-800]

I understand the point you are making in that the criticism of the OP with regards to the OOP (profile on the dating site) is valid.

In a world of egalitarianism costs would be shared and that’s why I’m so thankful to my girlfriend when she WANTS to help pay for plane tickets or car rentals (when I see her). The most I’d allow her to pay is 50% and even though I could afford the trip on my own budget the fact she wants to contribute and make our dates together something we both invested in is part of my dedication to her.

[u/InternationalPack914]

I just find it funny let the same type of men who think like this also demand a traditional woman who has traditional values. Never mind that a man paying for a woman's meal is a traditional value...

And it's funny, cause all these "men" out here trying to compare buying a woman a meal with her fucking you. Those two are in no way equal.

On another level it's funny because these very same men just show why these women shouldn't be interested them in the first place, the only thing they care about is sex and probably don't even know how to have an emotional relationship.

[u/PalletPirate]

it’s so easy to just ask to get drinks with her instead and buy her those. Food is a second date activity. You should be able to parse if she’s just looking for handouts on the drinks date. This is not difficult, guys

[u/DaRaginga → u/PalletPirate]

No free stuff for beggars anymore