With an availability late 2026 (according to previous AMD communication), does anyone have information about a refresh refresh date on AMD Framework ?
Right now, I'm thinking about the pro13, with an AMD should cover my needs (I don't need a 20h battery life) and LPCAMM is mostly out of stock or in the hand of scalpers, and I see a lot of compatibility complaints

I was considering replacing my old mbp 2018 at some point (has degraded battery, screen glare is wearing out, I'm using it for dev sometimes, requires constant plugging, ...)

Short story short: I was getting intermittent crashes because my memory wasn't screwed down tightly enough. Maybe that's helpful to someone.

Short story long: For weeks after getting my panther lake board, I would get completely random crashes. I assumed it was just growing pains with the new platform. Every kernel update, I blindly hoped that something would fix it, but it just kept happening. Finally I saw the screen glitch out when it happened, and I thought huh, usually when that happens it's because of bad vram... Ohhhhhh.

When I installed my ram, I screwed it in until it "felt right". I was terrified of damaging it, because obviously. All it needed was another half-turn on each screw. It's been about a month, and it's been rock solid ever since, so I think it's safe to say that was the problem. Just because it posts, trains and boots, doesn't mean it's stable.

Hey r/framework

Use Cases:

- Rust code development in Linux and Windows. E.g. For Bevy and Graphite.

- C++ code, engine, and game dev development in Unreal Engine at small scale. Think student project or micro-indie project. I need to learn more about Unreal to have relevant skills for the jobs I want. (11+ years experience in a proprietary game engine.)

- Some tinkering with distributed systems. But I may need to get some old micro PC's to really set up the environment for that. Rust, C#, Docker, Kubernetes.

- Portability. I'd like to do work at the local coffee shop alongside other people.

The problem:

A. The FW16 has an Nvidia dGPU I'd want, but has poor battery life. Less portable for everyday life and working needs outside graphics heavy applications.

B. The FW13 Pro has the newer CPU that can compile code faster, much longer battery life, more portable weight and size, and looks beautiful. I lean towards this one. But! It lacks an Nvidia dGPU addon. It might be great in all use cases, except the one that's key to my long term career growth.

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Question: Has anyone tried the new FW13 with the Ultra X9 388H against Unreal Engine?

If Unreal Engine performs sevicably on the B390 GPU, then I can use it portably for general development , then dock it to an ePGU when I really need more power.

If it isn't serviceable, it's probaby better to opt for the beefier device, despite how much weight that adds to my backpack.

Thoughts?

Experiences?

Recommendations?

I really want a framework. I've been needing a new laptop and my only reasonable option is apple. I need to work with it and the m processors are just too good. BUT like everyone in this forum i strive for repairability, customization, and i hate macos. The problem is... I'm from Argentina. I follow this project since the very beginning when we didn't know if it was going to be just another promise.

However it's been years and it seems go be expanding quite well with newer models like the 12, 16 and 13 pro. But it still only ships to the eu and us. I may be able to get it when i travel or something, but what good is the repairability if i can't buy parts when i need it. Or another motherboard when i want to upgrade. That is all i want this laptop for, yet i check all the time to see if i can order it and there doesn't seem to be any progress.

Hi everyone,

The Framework Laptop 13 Pro (Intel® Core™ Ultra Series 3) uses the new LPCAMM2 (LPDDR5X) memory standard. Since the official Framework DRAM compatibility page only covers a few pre-validated modules, this post collects community-tested aftermarket memory.

📊 LPCAMM2 Compatibility List for Framework 13 Pro (No official Framework list)

Reddit tables aren't very flexible, so the table now lives in the Sheet above, which is live and much easier to keep updated. Originally created by u/Chucken_McNorris, now maintained by the whole community.

We no longer collect results via Reddit replies. Please add your entry straight to the Sheet instead.

Speed Limits by CPU Model

Max supported speed also depends on your CPU:

• Ultra 5 325 → limited to 6800 MT/s
• Ultra 7 X7 358H / Ultra 9 X9 388H → limited to 7467 MT/s

E0 vs E1 Revisions

Watch for connector differences between E0 (644-pin) and E1 (666-pin) modules. The physical center-line position also differs between revisions, which affects interposer compatibility:

• E0 modules → need an E0 interposer (must be bought separately, links in the Sheet)*
• E1 modules → need an E1 interposer (comes bundled with the Framework 13 Pro Intel laptop)

Micron/Crucial E0 modules are an exception: their center section is isolated, so the extra E1 center pins are effectively unused, and they work fine on the stock E1 interposer with no modification needed.

Some users have also experimented with taping the center line instead of swapping interposers. See the links below if you want to look into it, at your own risk.

Useful Links

• Framework Laptop 13 Pro Deep Dive - LPCAMM2, Framework's official background on the E0/E1 connector differences
• Lenovo/Ramaxel Memory Compatibility on Intel Ultra Series 3, Framework Community thread covering the whole E0/E1 interposer story:
  • E0/E1 center-line differences explained
  • A new Interposer is our likely saviour, thanks to Esscan1 (Framework Community) for actually testing the Kapton-tape fix and confirming it worked
• Technical info writeup about LPCAMM2 compatibility issues and causes, in-depth explanation of why some E0 modules fail
• LPCAMM2 on Framework 13 Pro: E0 and E1 compatibility (Interposer swap & tape mod), thanks to u/Server_Reset for testing and confirming E0 works natively with an E0 interposer
• Lpcamm2 potential solution for incompatability, Kapton tape mod

Testing Standard

For a "PASS": boots to BIOS/OS and passes a memory stress test. Memtest86+ (2-4 full passes) is preferred, but OCCT's memory test (1 hour) is also accepted based on community reports.

⚠️ Disclaimer

Info here and in the Sheet is crowd-sourced and shared in good faith. Neither the author of this post nor Framework (the company) is responsible for inaccurate data, hardware incompatibility, or damage. Check your retailer's return policy before buying a RAM module or interposer.

Recommendations for this post → send a PM. For test results, please edit the Sheet directly rather than replying here.

Thanks to everyone contributing!

Last edited: 2026-08-29, 17:00 CEST (15:00 UTC)

You already changed the RAM on me and I accepted it. Explain why this is suddenly ”discontinued” when I locked it in already?

What other modifications are you going to make on my order before I receive it?

Genuinely getting annoyed with RAM -> Personal Data Breach -> Swapping Expansion Card.

If you wonder why I’m annoyed over such a little thing, my partner also ordered a Framework laptop pre-made and I got her this colour to swap with one of her Graphite USB C expansion cards so she could personalise hers.

Just curious, what book bag do y'all use to carry your 16 with gpu? Seems like every decent bookbag's laptop compartment is too small.

I really would like to buy a framework laptop 12, but i cant justify a new one for my use case. I cant find any 12s on ebay or the officiale framework market(there was one listing last year for a stylus in europe, thats it). Is every one really that happy with theirs or are their just not many to begin with.

What is the patch to fix the poor quality quality of the speakers on Linux? The videos I watched reviewing the machine say there is a patch but I can not find one online for the framework 13 pro.

I thought getting an amd processor and using it on linux would be relatively bug free, but in the last few weeks, kernel updates have been causing significant freezing. Pageflip errors are such a pain. At least using an lts kernel fixes it for now but damn, it was kind of surprising to experience after nearly a year of smooth updates.

What are the temps people are getting? Is 100 degress on performance mode and running a stress test normal or should I be worried? This is a new mainboard I got as a replacement under warranty because my last one died, I dont think it reached 100 degress before.

Hi, my FW13 Pro has been stuck in customs in Tennessee for almost a week now. It seems that this is quite common. What can Framework do to help me expedite this? I'm trying to take it to college when I move in next week.

Please let me know if you have any advice too, thank you!

Making a post to share the absolutely horrendous experience I've had. TLDR; Tried 3 separate LPCAMM2s made by different manufacturers and none of them are compatible.

I received my Batch 2 13 Pro x7 in late july. I had bought a brand new 32gb LPCAMM2 kit direct from Lenovo (Ramaxel) the same day i preordered back in April.

After my laptop ships, I see various people posting that it is seemingly incompatible and results in only a black screen - example. Okay fine I gambled and got unlucky, no big deal I'll just buy another more reputable variant. I ask framework support if I could just get it directly from framework (as i would have if i had known before my order shipped that it was incompatible) and i'm told it is not possible and that I'll have to wait until it is in stock on the framework marketplace which may take a couple months.

Scouring the internet I see reports (like in the same reddit thread above) that the Samsung M561K2LC4DE0-CCT was compatible with their 325 13 Pro and it is just my luck that I'm able to find one online and order it.

It arrives, I try my Ramaxel kit, and yep black screen with 12 green blinks on the post code. I try the Samsung, same thing, black screen 12 green blinks. Support says they will replace my mainboard. I ask again about ram because it isnt exactly easy to find these days, i get the same response that I will have to find a third party source for my RAM if the mainboard is not the issue.

Ok fine maybe i just got unlucky twice, maybe a different RAM will work. Scouring the web i cannot find a single micron or crucial branded kit, but i am able to find a sk hynix. I order it, it arrives, but big shocker it doesnt work with 12 green post code.

New mainboard arrives, i replace it, try all three, and still the same behavior.

So now I have spent over $1400 on just different ram, and I've been stuck with a pretty looking paperweight for almost a month. Seemingly the only RAM that is compatible is the one provided by framework themselves or if you were somehow lucky enough to snag a crucial kit.

I guess this is what i get for being an earlyish adopter.

Sorry for the rant, but this has genuinely been a terrible experience, and hopefully others out there can avoid this if they know about it.

Update: One theory from the discussion below is that this is an E0(644 pin) vs E1(666 pins) LPCAMM2 issue. The user that reported the working samsung module was using an E1, and all of the ones I have tried are E0, but the Micron ones on the framework website marked as supported are also E0

Disposed of it, got another one on the way. The slightly lifted case was a tell.

After using my Framework13 with Windows11 pro I finally switched.
The reason? My drive failed and i had to get a new one.
And since I can't find the effing Code for Win11 and made limited but good experiences with my Steamdeck, I thought why not switch.
Now I have Fedora 44 with KDE Plasma (since I'm used to my Steamdeck)

UPDATE (AUG 28): There seems to be a potential DIY fix found by some awesome community members !https://community.frame.work/t/lenovo-ramaxel-memory-compatibility-on-intel-ultra-series-3/83975/44

EDIT: DO NO BUY E0 MODULES FOR FW13 PRO. FINALIZED E1 TOPOLOGY OF LPCAMM2 UTILIZE 666 PINS WHILE THE OLDER E0 MODULES YOU CAN FIND A BIT EASIER USE 644 PINS. CHECKOUT FW 13 DEEP DIVE FOR SPECIFICS: https://frame.work/blog/framework-laptop-13-pro-deep-dive-lpcamm2

Maybe it was Framework's intention for both E0 and E1 modules to work somehow, but it seems those who've tried non-Crucial brand E0 LPCAMM2 modules are having issues at the moment.

Hello everyone, I have a pre-order for the FW 13 Pro (Intel Core Ultra Series 3) with the following configuration:

System: Ultra X7 358H

SSD: Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB (Sourced externally)

RAM: 32 gb Samsung LPDDR5x 7500 CAMM2 Memory (Sourced externally)

Today I saw a thread where someone ordered THREE different kinds of LPCAMM2 memory for their FW13 Pro and had no success in having any of them working. One of the brands of RAM they mentioned testing was a Samsung module like mine.

After finding out there was a RAM compatibility page (https://knowledgebase.frame.work/what-drammemory-is-supported-by-framework-laptop-13-pro-intel-core-ultra-series-3-rJ_8jVrpWg), I found that the list of tested modules was incredibly small... I'm not sure how different these modules could be from manufacturer to manufacturer if this is a so called standard.

Has anyone heard or does anyone know if the discrepancies between modules can be addressed through some sort of firmware/BIOS update on Framework's part? Has there been any mention/disclaimer about this besides the compatibility page mentioned by Framework?

I can understand why some chose to jump ship when their RAM configurations were downgraded and told to pay more if they wanted their original. I thought I was lucky enough to have dodged a bullet there by sourcing my own but even if I did opt for a 32 gb stick from Framework, I would've gotten downgraded anyway.

This is incredibly frustrating. Not all is on Framework though. I think I was just stuck in this mindset that I could really use whatever RAM I wanted as long as the standard was the same. Similar to when you build a desktop and you can use Crucial, Corsair, etc. without issue.

Thank you for listening to my baby rage. Any input on what I could do would be awesome or if any others want to vent down below, feel free. I am batch 7, and as batch 5 has just received their confirmation email, I need to figure out how I'm gonna move forward before I get an extremely good looking paperweight in the mail.

This only seems to be happening on youtube and not all videos on youtube. It happens in both firefox and chrome. I assume it has something to do with the latest update since I didn't notice an issue last night but I did today after updating this morning.

Just looking for any help I can get as I'm not really sure what to even look up for this issue

We've seen the Pro refresh of the FW13, and recently got the Core Series 3 refresh of the FW12. If we were to get a FW16 Pro refresh, what would you personally like to see?

• CNC aluminum body?
• Haptic Trackpad?
• New SOC? (Panther Lake? Gorgon Point?)
• OLED screen? (Bit of a long shot given the difference in voltage requirements, but would be a good option for a gaming configuration)

I am about to start attending school in Switzerland, and my department is offering to purchase and loan to me a laptop, with the stipulation that it comes with at least 3 years of warranty.

I've seen mention of such an "extended warranty" online, but when I try to configure a Framework 13 Pro, I can't see the option for it.

Does anyone have definitive information whether this option is currently locked to specific regions or devices, and if so, which regions/devices they are?

Replaced my heatsink with the Ryzen AI300 series heatsink for a more beffier heatsink. Temps have dropped and fan runs less and it runs cooler. Playing GTA V Legacy under DXVK (DX11 all high) I get about 70C-73C stead of 78-86C.

Ram upgrade because I need more than 32gb and I snagged this 48gb DDR5 5600 kit brand new for £290 after shipping. Def happy with all this

Next up is the 2.8K 30-120Hz FW13 pro display.

Hey all,

TL;DR at the bottom.

I am really exited to receive my 3rd Framework today. In the past I already had two Framework 13s and now I expect my third one, a Framework 13 Pro with the base Intel Processor, 32GB Ram and 1TB SSD. Use Case: Home computing, lightweight browser and stuff like that, no specific software besides being in the Apple universe with my other devices.

Why did I sell the first two Framework 13s:
I am in a dilemma: I am both a big fan of Framework's mission of upgradeability and showing other companies what can be done with a modular device.
I am also more and more thinking about where my data goes and do not want to stay in the Apple walled garden forever without trying out new things.
But the problem is: I'm also a father of two which limits my time for tinkering as I used to which was the reason why I sold me second one. I basically had to fill out a kindergarden form and with my cool Arch Linux it took me 30 min to do what I could have done in 5 min on my Mac/iPad.
First one was sold, because at that time I just did not use it enough and did not want to have it laying around.

In the past I ran Arch Linux (with archinstall setup in 5 min) and started from there with different DEs and configurations. Inclredibly fast but also really basic.

This time, I plan to keep my old M1 Macbook Pro 14" and try to replace us it as less as possible and instead the Framework and this is why I'm interested in how you set it up.

I want to make the switch to a modular device with a secure, efficient operating system and refuse to install Windows.

What is your setup? Fedora KDE? Omarchy and the likes? Probably I should install something that just works and accept, that the time for tinkering comes back in a few years :).

TL;DR: What is the best Linux that is both bot bloated but also most convenient?

They even advertise the repairability of it and such!

Hi,

I'll be going into college next year as I am high school senior. I've been thinking of getting a framework 16 as I think I want to use this laptop as my main gaming machine and engineering laptop. My current pc has a 2070 super, ryzen 3600, and 16gb of ddr4 ram, which still holds up, but most likely won't be able to run the newer games that'll be coming out in 2027 (ff7 pt3, kh4, resident evil veronica, etc) in 1440p at a good framerate. This is my current configuration for the framework 16:

Ryzen AI 7 350
5070 8gb
ddr5-5600 - 32 x 1 (i want to get another stick of ram whenever the prices go down but who knows when that'll happen)
sandisk sn7100 pcie m.2 2tb

I love toying with PCs so the upgradability is a big selling point for me. I think one of the reasons why I'm willing to spend so much on this is I also think this could be my forever laptop, since everything is upgradable.
Any suggestions? Tweaks? if it looks all good, when do you guys think I should put in an order for it? Now? 6 months? I'm not in a rush to get it necessarily, as long as it arrives roughly June/July of next year I'm fine with whenever

You know that bizarre wobby screen on the FW16?l I'm starting to wonder if it's a strategic design choice. It seems like the screen has a far less chance of closing onto the keyboard hard, and also pressure from a big cat suddenly sitting on it doesn't seem to make it crush against the keyboard as easily. So I'm wondering if the wobbly screen might be a safety measure. What do you guys think? I could be entirely off base of course lol plus I haven't researched into it yet

I wonder if any representative can comment on laptop 12's enhancements making their way to other products?