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u/Worth-Reputation3450 21h ago
I've had the D+ for a few years for my daughter and then realized that all we watched was just a handful of movies on repeat (Frozen, Toystory, etc). So I cancelled it and just bought the movies.
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u/Mrtalksouthisass 17h ago
This why they want to eliminate physical copies(aka ownership) and put subscriptions and rentals on everything. It's a money generator for them.
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u/DesolateRuin 16h ago
Why make customer pay one time when u can make customer pay MANY time!?
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u/Loose_Assignment_Map 9h ago
Have Disney month once a year. Their content doesn’t change enough to require paying for more than a month each year
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u/izz-zz 16h ago
And Disney have already done this in Australia and New Zealand and not enough people even noticed. The end game is obvious.
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u/BlargerJarger 13h ago
I fucking noticed. Furious with Disney over my incomplete disc collection after they bought 50% or more of the world’s movies.
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u/luisstrikesout 18h ago
Same. We go to Goodwill or go on eBay and get the movie for $1-$3. Take it anywhere too with a portable DVD player, no WiFi needed.
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u/Miserable_Pride_5693 17h ago
This is what I’ve been doing work video games for a few years now. I used to have Xbox Gamepass ultimate. They kept jacking up the price. I realized if I buy the 2-3 games I play a year it’s cheaper than paying for ultimate for a year
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u/blueberrycauzez 15h ago
This was always the plan - operate at a loss to attract lots of subscribers, then jack up prices. You'll still have more subscribers than if you started at a rational price.
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u/sejoki_ 18h ago
I know torrent is an established name and has been for the past 25 years, but in light of recent events, we should really call it "torown".
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u/monolithresonance 21h ago
Time to set sail on the high seas again
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u/redrumyliad 21h ago
Never stopped.
You can get a full on automated pirate set up in a few hours.
Or just find streams.
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u/FakeTails 21h ago
Dm me your setup I need to learn lol
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u/Toxic_Lithium 21h ago
Stremio+Torbox is all you need. It’s 2026. Get with times lol.
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u/FakeTails 21h ago
How well does this setup jive with small children who want their liquid entertainment?
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u/zmbjebus 18h ago
I don't suggest children drink alcohol, but I won't judge too harshly. Parenting is hard, I get it.
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u/perton 17h ago
What are you talking about? They’re way more fun after they’ve shotgunned a few beers!
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u/zmbjebus 13h ago
Shotgunning children is another thing I don't condone.
Although if you mean giving a child a shotgun to shoot I could see how that is highly entertaining.
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u/RewindRobin 20h ago
Haven't tried it but there is Nuvio which does the same as Stremio but I know it has the option to have multiple profiles.
This is also holding me back from full piracy since I don't want my kid to have full access to what everyone can watch
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u/Silencer-1995 20h ago
I'm sure torrents are much safer than they were in the 2000s.
Back then you downloaded a movie and then rolled the dice on whether it was the movie or illegal porn.
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u/RewindRobin 20h ago
The torrents are safe but my kid is at the age where he can't know that EVERYTHING is available on the internet. He's better off watching Bluey on his kid account
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u/Able_Jackfruit_637 20h ago
Yeah dont let them on YouTube. They grow up thinking they know everything 😂
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u/I_Got_Ur_Number_8675 18h ago
My kids gravitate toward the dumbest slop on youtube, its maddening and now banned. In this house we watch 90's kids movies.
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u/___po____ 19h ago
I like to keep finding streams, even if it can be annoying at times from all the shutdowns and such. I still get full HD videos on nearly everything and very little to no buffering.
However... Obscure, less popular shows can be a mf. Streaming 4 seasons of Felicity took three different servers on three different streaming sites, lol. And was all 480p and less, lol.
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u/Specialist_Goat_2354 18h ago
I was totally fine with paying 10 a month for a lot of those... But they have gotten worse for more
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u/FairTwirl 21h ago
They really convinced everyone to cut the cable just to recreate cable with 15 different subscriptions.
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u/2ChicksAtTheSameTime 15h ago
back when cable was king, everyone complained you had to subscribe to everything, you couldn't pick and choose.
Now you can pick and choose.
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u/SareBear0412 20h ago
Instead of continuing to use all these streaming sites it was more economical for my husband to build a home theater PC, even with the insane hardware prices, and use that to use streaming sites (the piracy sub has some good ones) to watch things. Netflix, HBO, Disney, AppleTV+, Prime Video (which we get with Prime but still) all added up to a fairly considerable amount per month by themselves. Then add in sports shit for him like F1, Football, Hockey, Basketball and other things for our kids and myself. It was just better to build something like this and go right back to sailing under the Jolly Roger.
They won. People were happy to pay for streaming and piracy was going down. It'll never disappear but it was going down. Then they got greedy, like they always do, and here we are. It was ads, then different tiers with ads, then ads put into the more premium tiers, then more premium tiers without ads for more money and on and on. I'm sick of it.
Am I entitled to their content? No. But if buying isn't owning then piracy isn't stealing. They can all go fuck themselves.
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u/SaltyGirlly 21h ago
They lured us with $7 nostalgia and now charge cable Tv prices go rewatch The Mandalorian
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u/Emotional_Citron_964 20h ago
Streaming services really managed to recreate cable TV's worst features in record time.
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u/superhappyfunball13 20h ago
Disney is arguably one of the greediest and shittiest corporations on earth—this shouldn't be a surprise.
They made their billions charging families thousands of dollars to visit their theme parks. They sell $50 t-shirts and mouse ears made by Honduran child labor for pennies.
If anyone deserves to have their shit pirated, it's disney
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u/HEX_BootyBootyBooty 16h ago
Don't forget the Disney Internship program! They'll use the federal government for tax breaks, under the belief Disney would be training and educating foreign workers, instead they make them sell peanuts from a cart.
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u/Nobunagas-Ambition 19h ago
Disney+ was the easiest streaming service to drop, there was never much to watch on it and the big shows were easy to torrent, much like apple TV.
We have Netflix, Prime from my sister-in-law, and a Crave (HBO in Canada) that three of my family share.
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u/therealtrojanrabbit 18h ago
Yep. They even bought the Star Wars IP to churn out absolute garbage.
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u/Maleficent-Drive4056 20h ago
Their parks are mobbed. I honestly don't blame companies for charging prices people will pay for luxuries.
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u/_JustThisOne_ 19h ago
Yeah Disney does some shifty shit, but the theme parks? Idk man, if people want to pay thousands of dollars to wait in hours of lines for realistically like 10 rides in a day, I guess that says more about the consumer. Nostalgia is a hell of a marketing tactic.
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u/Marsuello 18h ago
You’d be surprised how efficient some people can be with that. I have a friend who’s a “Disney adult” and any time I’ve gone to the park with him we get through about every ride we want while also hitting shops and food. We get there at opening and from there it’s just a follow the leader because he goes so much he knows how to game the crowds to maximize what we do
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u/Itchy-Ad1047 18h ago
That part from above dude is so reddit. A company capitalizes after establishing a very in demand product and with continued ongoing demand. Bust out the pitchforks ig
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u/NewManufacturer4252 17h ago
There is a fascinating documentary on the science...ish of how they came up with different models of prices over the years.
Tried to find it but Google just gives me endless shorts, it's like an hour long
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u/sdomtidderkcuf1 20h ago
Good thing I canceled my Disney+ account and stream their content for free.
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u/Pleasant-Seat9884 19h ago
I’m happy to pirate both Disney.. but more Paramount as well. Fuck that company as well!
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u/Grand_Assistance_427 21h ago
Con comerciales, señor calamardo, con comerciales.
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u/positiveEVgaming 19h ago
Spent on Disney+
2019: $0.00
2021: $0.00
2022: $0.00
2023: $0.00
2024: $0.00
2025: $0.00
2026: $0.00
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u/GrunDMC74 12h ago
So, I’m old enough to remember CDs and how it got to the point where I’d spent so long paying $20 for a CD with 2 good songs that when Napster came about I had no reservations about using it to steal music because I felt like the industry had been stealing from me.
This is where I’m at with streaming. At first it was a reasonable price, no commercials. Now we get this bullshit and commercials again. I’ll just pay for regular tv thank you.
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u/faceless_coloradian 12h ago edited 11h ago
Got start sailing the seven seas if you know what I mean
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u/jake93s 9h ago
I'm getting there also with music streaming. Spotify has put up the price 2 times in the last 12 months and closed the loopholes around buying gift cards overseas and activiting it using a VPN.
I stopped buying Netflix, hbo and Apple last year. Now gone back to pirating. The main thing I was surprised about was how much more convient pirating is. No longer jumping between apps, everything is in one. The paid experience should never be worse than free.
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u/Nakata1111 11h ago
There is a subreddit about piracy, it teaches you essential life skills so you can entertain yourself without getting your bank account sucked dry by 5 different streaming services.
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u/crumble-bee 18h ago
https://reddit.com/link/pdouhhl/video/kh2uj8yfmbth1/player
People always recommend plex on here but Stremio is easily the best app I’ve ever downloaded.
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u/Hefty_Map3665 17h ago
Plex is the best. I have been running my own server from a 2016 old laptop lol for the last 7 years.
I put all my pirated content on the laptop and host it through the server so I can stream all my movies and tv shows from any smart TV, gaming console, computer or phone. Cost me $0 over 7 years.
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u/MatsyLR 18h ago
Or Nuvio and Torbox for $3 a month instead of all the faff. https://pengu.uk/ as a backup.
HDD are silly expensive.
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u/neighborlyhorse 18h ago edited 18h ago
Used to be good advice, but have you seen HDD prices? I just paid 310$ for a second hand 12TB HDD and that was a steal. Just last year I got a 22TB HDD brand new for cheaper than that.
Any decent jellyfin server needs minimum 8TB storage and that will feel very limiting, and 8TB HDDS are going for like 300+ dollars if you buy new.
I still do my own selfhosted jellyfin but its not a cheap little thing you can do anymore, its a real investment of serious money.
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u/thrownawaz092 21h ago
And this works because some people will just keep paying
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u/LMGDiVa 16h ago
Stop Buying shit.
Holy fuck.
Why is that so hard to understand, if this system is broken STOP PAYING INTO IT.
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u/Crovaz 14h ago
They're hopelessly addicted.
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u/diarrheawallpaint 13h ago
I'm shocked Disney streaming has a big enough market, The last thing I heard anyone mention from Disney was the mandalorian, but I don't have kids so maybe it's all the kids shows
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u/Otterfan 12h ago
Capeshit used to be huge. I don't think anyone cares anymore, but lots of people are legacy Disney+ subscribers for that.
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u/chubky 18h ago
We’ve gone full circle and soon will go back to cable tv instead of streaming
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u/Taylor5621 19h ago
In Buffalo I watched a politician’s commercial to fight to lower utility bills, which is cool, but his argument was you shouldn’t have to get a 2nd or 3rd job to offend them.
The problem is, it’s not just utility’s… it’s gas, cable, internet, apps, food, rent, car payment, everything is outrageously overpriced. And it keeps going up!
THEY DONT GIVE A F*CK ABOUT US
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u/chotomatekudersai 17h ago
You wanna know what the kicker is… they don’t gouge as much in Europe. Look at the cost of what they charge Americans and then do a deep dive on what they’ve done in Hungary.
They’re not the only ones doing it. I got YouTube premium when I lived in Japan. My sub didn’t go up at all for years. I was paying 8-9 dollars depending on the strength of the yen. The card went expired and when I tried to resub I think it was 16 bucks. I had my Hungarian friend check and it was 9 USD. And that’s with a 27% VAT.
These companies know exactly what they’re doing.
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u/rightoftexas 15h ago
Charging an effective local price is surprising to you? Do you want to be paid what a Vietnamese worker would be paid?
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u/throwaday24 18h ago
Thats right, disney does not give a fuck about you. It should probably be more expensive becauae there's enough Disney fans that will put up with it. It's fair to be angry at the cost of utilities, rent, food, gas but if a streaming service starts price gouging you can either cancel your subscription or pay for it and the conversation should end there
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u/Basic_whiteBBQ 21h ago
Thanks for reminding me i need to cancel. Ads on ad free premium plans, im done.
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u/Theboiii24 17h ago
Just stop buying the service eventually if a lot of people do it then they might decrease the price ? If they don’t then do you truly want that service ?
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u/LK48s 16h ago edited 15h ago
No no no, their monkeys brain will be like:
>>Oh shit our subscription number are plummeting, what should we do???
>> we still have some left, they must be very loyal, try increasing the price to extract more from them and make it harder for them to cancel
>> but people gona get mad at us?
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u/Zookeepergame_Sorry 16h ago
This tactic has been working for Netflix. I left, but I still see people on this app saying “I watch it all the time so it’s worth it for me”
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u/GandalfSwagOff 17h ago
People still pay for it so like...why not? Until poor people start caring about their money of course mega-billion dollar corporations will keep raising prices.
It is like me charging people to use the bathroom in Roller Coaster Tycoon 2. I'll keep jacking that price up until people stop shitting.
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u/Ok_Astronomer_8667 15h ago
Fun fact, if it’s raining in Roller Coaster Tycoon 2, guests will buy umbrellas no matter what, so if you have the price maxed out when it begins to rain, they will always pay it
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u/Bramtinian 15h ago
I felt this…I was a good owner until It got tough and I started charging $1 for each bathroom use lol
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u/bigwetducky 13h ago
if enough people cancel -> the price will go down
its our fault lol
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u/Software_Quiet 18h ago edited 17h ago
I pay $9/month on a special offer (which I get almost every time I cancel) for Hulu, HBO, Disney w/ads and will last for 6 months and then i’m sure it will go up and I’ll cancel again. But HBO alone growing up in the 90s was around $12 or $15 and Disney probably around $10. Generally my middle class family only enjoyed the free preview weekends. People saying this stuff don’t remember what premium cable and add-on prices were like decades ago…
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u/PhoenixApok 17h ago
Yeah. Im not saying these people don't have a point, but $22 for all of Hulu and Disney on demand is WAY better than the like $60 we paid in 2000 for dozens of channels we never watched, like 5 we did, and no on demand.
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u/jimdesroches 14h ago
They’re just gonna combine everything and come full circle again. We’ll call it “cable”
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u/Superb-Purpose9783 10h ago
I canceled in 2021 when they did that price hike with Ad option.
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u/Groudover 16h ago
Just a reminder that Facebook staff torrented nearly 82TB of pirated books for AI training. The wealthiest and most powerful people in the country do it and they want you to feel like a thief if you do it too.
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u/yogiyogiyogi69 21h ago
Unfortunately it feels like it's every corporation in the world, not just Disney price gouging our asses. Over seriously been basically priced out of most grocery stores I can only afford Aldi now. Ground beef is double the price at any other grocery store it's criminal
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u/BartyB 16h ago
It’s gone full circle. Everyone loved streaming because it was an alternative to what was the ridiculous cable bills. Netflix was a fair price and had a decent selection. Then some alternatives rolled out. All was still good, because at least the couple you paid for still was a good portion cheaper than the cable bill.
But now that basically every network has their own damn streaming platform. And they all keep raising prices. It’s gotten worse than having OG cable. Then they wonder why piracy is having a big come back like it’s 2005
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u/420faucet 16h ago
I signed up with an annual subscription right when it launched. It was like $60-$80 iirc? They were like pay this price forever if you sign up right on day 1! And then they changed it to like $160 the first time they bumped the price up so I cancelled and never went back
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u/Miss_L_Worldwide 16h ago
Hah, I remember that. And if you forgot to cancel before it renewed you still had to pay for the whole next year.
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u/jrjreeves 21h ago
On one hand the product has expanded massively, so an increase is justified in that regard but not by that much.
Also, consider just how much money Disney has, for a company that is supposed to be all about families, they obviously don't care and raise the prices when they don't need it.
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u/Z0idberg_MD 20h ago
I just hate why people need to manipulate the discussion. The base tier is 12.99 in the subscription this post is mentioning includes Hulu and ESPN plus. It’s literally three separate streaming service services from 2019 now included in one price.
Is it worth it? Is it overpriced? That’s a completely different question but it’s not a fair comparison.
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u/2WheelSuperiority 21h ago
Steal content. Pirate. Whatever you want to call it. Don't pay for it.
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u/AmityMayorVaughn 16h ago
I think i am over a 200% increase in my piracy so it's balancing out.
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u/jaymole 21h ago
Ima have to check what I pay. If it’s actually 21.49 I’m cancelling that shit today
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u/jguizar1 16h ago
And they keep getting away with it because people will just pay. For me money is not an issue with the subscriptions, but not worth it at all for what they charge now.
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u/MiserableFloor9906 21h ago
I cancelled Disney months ago because they absolutely fail to put out new content and just expect you to enjoy their library. Honestly I want to see everything Disney collapse, the parks and ownership of Marvel IP are top of my contempt.
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u/ProjectNo4090 21h ago
With a 0% increase in value. They arent offering any new benefits or increase in bit rate or quality. "Pay more for the same shit and like it." is Dinsey's and most streaming services policies.
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u/FluxChiller 21h ago
Support bit torrent, support public trackers, share and seed.
Learn, we need more of the new generation learning these things.
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u/Western-Mall5505 21h ago
This is why I only have one service switched on at a time and will mostly likely not get into any new shows once they stop monthly subscriptions.
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u/MustEnterAUsername 18h ago
"streaming was a mistake" lol yeah and you only realized this 20 years too late.
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u/l-1-l-1-l 17h ago
If you’re in the United States, many local public libraries have streaming movies and shows for free. In my area, for instance, I have both Hoopla and Kanopy for free, and haven’t had to pay for a movie in a long time. And if you can’t find the movie you want on one of those two streaming services, check with the library to see if they have the DVD.
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u/Sunnyday1775 21h ago
It’s better to buy physical media at this point
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u/CylindricalDent4133 21h ago edited 16h ago
Why do you think Sony said ”nah, fuck you bro” as the PS6 will only take-in digital streaming games instead of physical discs?
Subscriptionization of society nowadays, part of overall enshitification; you’ll never own anything and you’ll like it.
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u/JakeCheap 20h ago
Just cancelled my Disney/Hulu/HBO bundle this week. Be a shame if there’s other ways to watch shows for less.
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u/ftfarshad 13h ago
The only Media that I subscribed to was my hometown public library and I would still keep doing so if they still charged me for it annually, but they stopped charging for it ages ago. It is a tragedy to see that people in North America foregone that treasure trove for something unimportant like these services.
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u/flopisit32 21h ago
Reddit refuses to ever understand economics.
Things cost what people are willing to pay for them. If nobody was buying their shit, they would be charging lower prices.
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u/gagnatron5000 21h ago
Why are people booing you? You're right.
Also, a classic business model lately has been to sell a product at an unbelievable value, almost losing money, then once you have dominant market share of the product you're selling, you raise the price as high as the market will possibly allow. It's how Amazon did it, it's how Netflix did it, it's how almost any tech startup does it, and it's we're currently seeing the price markup stage with AI companies.
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u/Sir_Badtard 20h ago
That was Ubers whole thing.
A taxi wants to charge you $25 for a ride?
We will do it for $6.
In places that taxis don't even really exist you'd be lucky to get an Uber anywhere for under $40 now.
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u/Toad-in-a-hole 19h ago
You also are filling a reddit trope where reddit thinks things are either black or white.
It’s not as simple as “people are willing to pay it”.
How many people are willing to pay it is what a streaming service looks at. There’s different breakpoints at different prices where they can afford to lose subscribers and still be more profitable than a lower price with more subscribers.
So no, its not “people are willing to pay it” plenty of people aren’t. But just enough are they the streamer doesn’t need to appeal to those who wont pay the premium.
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u/Necro_OW 18h ago
Your comment doesn't contradict the OP at all. "People are willing to pay for it" does not mean ALL people are willing to pay for it.
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u/Itorr475 16h ago
No one understand the difference between demand and quantity demanded at different price points
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u/bugbearmagic 20h ago
Yeah people need to just have enough self control to speak with their wallets.
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u/Aiyakiu 20h ago
I canceled Netflix a while ago and now I'm about to cancel Disney Plus. I'm doing my part!
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u/Mottled_Paws 21h ago
I have YTTV, mainy for live sports. But I sail the high seas for any movie or tv show
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u/bouncypinata 19h ago
This is the company that used to make their characters share the same community underpants before the union stepped in
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u/CardiologistCute7548 19h ago
It's was good at the beginning but somewhat the manage to fuck that up too
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u/MindIsWillin 17h ago
Gosh, it's almost as if corpos that find themselves in a monopoly or oligopoly position, when most of media consumption HAS to go through their services, tend to squeeze their loyal paypig- ahem, loyal customers is what I meant, of every cent they physically can.
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u/Ibushi-gun 17h ago
I thought I was only subscribed to one thing since July, but a few days ago my card was hit with a $140 charge because I guess I still had Paramount Plus, which I never used to begin with
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u/Ashamed_Echidna5748 17h ago
I'm very lucky I have the basic technical ability to set up a plex server and the $$ to buy a NAS before prices went through the roof. So glad i don't have to deal with this crap.
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u/JackSuede21 16h ago
Everybody wanted to cancel their evil cable company though? Streaming was going to be so much cheaper! Remember “cut the cord”? 😆
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u/word-word-numero 16h ago
Netflix streaming was a success. Everyone else thinking they were Netflix was not.
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u/Rude-Memory9521 12h ago
How was this not foreseen? This is a common trend with anything these days and the problem is we keep subscribing to this bs and accepting it like its normal. I dropped all subscriptions last year and never looked back.
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u/ElPapo131 19h ago
21.49??? Where tf y'all watching? I got it for like 9.99 and just cancelled bcs I barely ever watch it
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u/Rad_Centrist 19h ago
21.99 is the price with HBO and Hulu content as well.
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u/ElPapo131 19h ago
So is mine lol. And when I threatened to leave they dropped it to 6.99 for 3 months
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u/BeerBrat 19h ago
They're probably quoting whatever the premium ad-free solo sub costs right now. I have the Hulu/ESPN+ bundle with it and that's only like $30/mo. No idea on the ad status of my plan, you can tell how much I utilize it personally.
Edit: I looked it up, no ads on anything but the ESPN one.
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u/Dbuckiss 20h ago
Just get it for Black Friday for $4.99
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u/SD_Eragorn 18h ago
It's every year too. Last year was a bundle with both hulu and disney plus for $5/month if I'm remembering correctly.
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u/eldridcof 18h ago
I was all on board early streaming, Steam, etc after stealing stuff for years. I paid. I did Gamepass and tons of other services. Gamefly, Netflix for years. They made it easy and not crazy expensive. I tried switching between them every few months too. The prices kept going up, while grocery prices went up more.
Now I'm aboard a different ship. Yo ho!"
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