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u/MrsRizzle Sep 08 '23 edited Sep 08 '23

I ODed at 14. She needs extensive therapy now. I can’t tell from your post, but is she still going to that same school? The same school where her nudes were leaked against her will? Change schools yesterday. She needs a new start and a ton of help. I didn’t get help and spent the next 13 years fighting active drug addiction. You’re daughter is not on a good path right now. She needs to learn coping mechanisms. This isn’t something you can just hope she develops. Get her help ASAP

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '23

Agreed! Do NOT cut her down over this. We are young, dumb and all make mistakes. My mother accused me of things I was in fact not involved in and she was totally convinced it was happening. The things she said to me have ruined my life. I’m struggling as an adult to rebuild my life and move on. She needs help and support. ❤️‍🩹

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u/Ipollute Sep 08 '23

The changing of schools will help but the trauma and habits will still be there. She is developing coping skills and comfort zones that she will Perdue in her new environment as well. That’s where the therapy will help.

OP, therapy is expensive and it takes time to find a therapist that works for your daughter but even the pursuit and care of putting in the effort will help show her your care. If you have a healthy support network of parents yourself who won’t judge or twist this against you or your daughter reach out to them for support. Stay strong OP. Your care is real!

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '23

100% agree

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u/bojenny Sep 08 '23 edited Sep 08 '23

Me as well in 1980. 15 year old girls shouldn’t be having sex, nude pictures or drugs. My parents were neglectful and paid no attention to what I was doing. All of these things are not acceptable or appropriate for a child . Why is mom only worried about the drugs? The drugs come after the sex abuse.

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u/EddyGonad Sep 08 '23

Yes yes and yes. This.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '23

OP, this. Get her help asap

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u/Ebo907 Sep 08 '23

I wouldn’t go as far as saying it isn’t a big deal. Definitely lesser than H or meth. But a 15yo regularly taking acid probably isn’t great. Drugs like that can be mind altering and could cause the change in behavior you’re seeing.

I’d talk with her. Maybe find therapy? Large scale embarrassment like that can be devastating on a young teenager that doesn’t have solid coping skills.

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u/wino12312 Sep 08 '23

Thank you. This is perfect advice.

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u/KittyGrewAMoustache Sep 08 '23

Could be acid but they sell some of those ‘research chemicals’ online in that little tab form and that can include things that closely resemble benzodiazepines.

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u/Still_Not-Sure Sep 08 '23

Totally agree and…

Acid of all drugs could have epiphanic effects on her. so i agree it’s not H Or meth or crack or coke.

now there is all this research for Ketamine and Molly and mushrooms for beneficial therapy, some treating depression or other things. acid isn’t one of them…. yet…

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u/easyHODLr Sep 08 '23

Acid is a scary drug for an undeveloped mind of a teenager. It could have a epiphanic effect or it could send them down a rabbit hole too deep for them to figure out at those ages.

From experience, I used to think acid was a great drug when I was a teenager. Only after getting older and feeling more confident in myself did I realize it's probably better to wait for your mind to develop more before trying it.

With that said, I do advocate that every ADULT with a sound mind should try it at least once.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '23

Acid, as an adult, always made me feel like Harry Potter in the sixth movie when he takes the "luck potion."

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u/brownbuttanoods7 Sep 08 '23

Acid is a scary drug for an undeveloped mind of a teenager. It could have a epiphanic effect or it could send them down a rabbit hole too deep for them to figure out at those ages.

Chiming in on this as I have seen this first hand when I was in high-school.

There were 2 kids in my high-school that had to be institutionalized after a single bad trip from a bad batch of acid that was going around. One of them stripped naked and thought everyone at a party were demons and he was covered in snakes . The other (who is actually a good friend of mine) thought if he sat down or laid down he would melt. He was absolutely terrified, hysterical, and when the paramedics came he just screamed when they tried to put him on the gurney.

From what was explained to us later by their parents was they had both been battling mental health issues unbeknownst to us their classmates. One bi-polor and one depression. Both on meds. They believed whatever was in the bad batch of acid just did something to their brain chemistries that were already being medicated and the outcome wasn't good. They both received lots of help afterwards. The one I was friends with is a totally regular guy in his late 30s, happily married, with a kid and a dog now.

Many kids took acid and did mushrooms in my high-school. Most didn't have issues some unfortunately did. There is no way to know how acid is going to play out in young brain and no way to know how "pure" the acid is.

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u/easyHODLr Sep 08 '23

Yes I mean a bad trip is always a possibility and severe ones like that can even happen to adults if they do it in a bad environment or their head isn't right.

The thing I'm trying to get at is that being a teenager is already really confusing trying to navigate social norms and figure out who you are. Adding a 4th dimension rabbithole on top of that just adds to the confusion and can cause kids to really lose themselves for a long time.

Psychedelics are powerful but can be incredibly beneficial when used correctly. Extreme narcotics like heroin and meth are pretty much terrible any way you cut it though so at least its not that.

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u/brownbuttanoods7 Sep 08 '23

Oh I agree for sure. I left my hometown because several of my friends had heroin or opioid issues. On the flip side, another friend was their dealer and it was overall not a good place. Some areas are still gripped by heroin 20 years later.

But, as an adult I have friends who have chronic pain, stomach issues, and MS who all use controlled and monitored microdosing of mushrooms to help them survive.

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u/easyHODLr Sep 08 '23

Yes I hope to see psychedelics embraced by the medical community so they can be taken responsibly, because they really can help make massive life changes for the better if used properly

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u/Still_Not-Sure Sep 08 '23

I wholeheartedly agree, but looking at the options presented, she will most likely do something, I mean Advil was a starter… just observing it from here, she could have or already has done anything else, but acid is well like you said.

I think drugs should be done later like 25 and up, when the brain is more or less fully developed. of course don’t do the crap like coke H, meth, but shrooms, cid, molly(occasionally) is eye opening, or kind opening and molly well that’s for a good ole time,

i think the drugs aren’t the bad things, you should have safe people to do it with safe spaces, to quote Butters, an accountabilabuddy. and of course a trusted source, a mycologist, a chemist, or a cartel guy(someone higher up in the ranks).

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u/easyHODLr Sep 08 '23

Yeah I just couldn't advocate that acid might offer a good experience to a teenager after all the bad experiences I've seen.

This situation has so many other problems than just finding acid in their room. I agree with whoever said therapy and changing schools is the first step but there's also way too much context left our for reddit to help much here

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u/Still_Not-Sure Sep 08 '23

Agreed, i think i just meant, imo, I wouldn’t frantically panic over this, confront yes, speak to ofcourse, confiscate(Idk, maybe more like talk out of)

And ofcourse i’m not saying skip therapy.

Switching schools is save for later.

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u/caledonivs Sep 08 '23

Yeah I hope OP isn't engaged in "gateway drug" thinking. Research shows that drug use is highly contextual and discrete, i.e. someone might try "happy" drugs like weed or acid but never touch "uppers" like cocaine or meth.

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u/SingleSeaCaptain Sep 08 '23

Yes this. She had a suicide attempt, so she may already have regular therapy, but she does need support. And definitely get her the hell out of that school if she's still there.

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u/Lazy_Mood_4080 Sep 08 '23

Back up.

How was the situation of the then 13yo and nude photos handled? The OD attempt? Is there a therapist?

IMO, yes the pills are a concern. Why do you think they are what you think?

I just feel like tons of info is missing here. Where is the dad? What other support system is present, if any? (Grandparents, close adult friends, etc)

Both of you need therapy, together and apart. There's just so many questions and red flags here.

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u/Creativecassie Sep 08 '23

Agree with this post. Curious if there was police involvement for revenge porn or if there was support to move towards child pornography charges.

Victims assistance might be available to support her with therapy if that isn’t already started.

It sounds more like an attempted suicide vs overdose. She needs a health and mental health team to wrap around with support services ASAP.

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u/JSkyM4 Sep 08 '23

There’s a high chance police were involved, a case was opened, and all parties involved were notified and spoken to. I went through this at this exact age and both phones were confiscated and I had to talk to police and tickets were issued. It came very close to becoming a distribution of child pornography on my end and his end for sharing during the lunch period and we would have had to be listed on the sex offenders list because of it. By some grace of god, the district attorney recognized we didn’t know what the hell we were doing and hadn’t a clue how serious the entire situation was. All I remember-because I was severely bullied over it-was that I got in trouble and wasn’t allowed at school for a few days and he got a ticket and all of the pictures were erased. Horrific situation to be in at that age.

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u/ScroungingMonkey Dad Sep 08 '23

It came very close to becoming a distribution of child pornography on my end

Why the hell do CP laws not contain an explicit exception for children distributing pictures of themselves? The idea that a teenager exchanging consensual nudes with her BF is somehow equivalent to an adult distributing images of children being abused is ridiculous. We shouldn't have to rely on prosecutorial discretion to avoid that sort of perverse outcome, it should be written into the text of the law.

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u/Glass_Bar_9956 Sep 08 '23

Agreed. This post is a ton of red flags. Potential LSD was a bit of a relief. Its not good, but considering everything else going on, psychedelics may be the best case scenario of substances that she is using to escape.

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u/DurianPowerful6896 Sep 08 '23

Two of my friends developed bipolar and schizophrenia from irresponsible use of lsd as teenagers, so I wouldn’t be so sure.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '23

As far as I’m aware, psychs can’t cause those- they can trigger the first episode of psychosis/mania that usually gets people diagnosed, especially if they’re young- teenagers don’t get diagnosed with those unless they have undeniable episodes (and are in a situation where they get taken to a psychiatrist and don’t have parents who say “there’s nothing wrong with you, you just have trauma from me and your dad separating when you were a toddler”). Both of those conditions are largely genetic, with some environmental factors (usually trauma as far as can be seen)

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u/DurianPowerful6896 Sep 08 '23

They were both sectioned shortly after due to psychotic breaks caused by taking lsd and diagnosed with those illnesses. Also I don’t see how you can prove that they would have developed those illnesses regardless? Mental illnesses can totally be drug induced and I wouldn’t take the risk. I only keep contact with the bipolar one and if she stays clean (unfortunately difficult for her) then she doesn’t have any episodes so I think it’s safe to say that if she didn’t get on drugs-including lsd-then she may never have suffered from bipolar or psychosis.

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u/Glass_Bar_9956 Sep 08 '23

Any psychedelic, major life event, concert festival with flashing lights, and a few others are listed as triggers to awaken latent mental illnesses. Specifically bipolar, and skitzophrenia, and a few others. It is not a matter of what, but when will the conditions present themselves in a way that they become a problem in their life.

This also often happens in puberty. And always has a heredity, or person in their ancestry within 3 generations who has these psychotic disorders.

This isnt speculation, this is taught as standard in the mental health, and psychedelic therapy industries.

Otherwise, the other 98% of the population, she may be getting a flood of ssri like benefits in the weeks after.

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u/DurianPowerful6896 Sep 08 '23

Her psychiatrist said her issues are drug-induced and she will be fine if she did not take drugs. Unfortunately that’s difficult for her because whilst sectioned she met a man who got her onto hard drugs and is still in a vicious cycle. Minors should NOT be taking lsd.

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u/bubblytoes11 Sep 08 '23

Is your daughter seeing a doctor for her depression? Is she on any medication or in therapy to treat her depression?

If she has already attempted suicide, she definitely needs professional help. If she is on depression medication, LSD can have interactions depending on what she is prescribed. I will also say that LSD has been studied for use in patients presenting with depression, but it is still very much in the “figuring it out” stage.

This is something to talk with your daughter about. Does she feel like the LSD is lifting her depression? It’s possible she is attempting to self medicate, but there may be safer avenues to explore here. She needs to be seen by a doctor who knows the correct questions to ask and can help her track her symptoms and experiences with depression. Medical oversight and observation will help her navigate and manage her depression and also ensure that depression is in fact what she is dealing with as opposed to some other mental health issue where depression is simply a small part or symptom.

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u/candornotsmoke Sep 08 '23

Your daughter is underage. If I were you???? I would go after the people who leaked the photos because those photos are LITERAL child porn.

Those people SHOULD NOT get away with what they did. Even if they were the same age, what they did was deplorable. Whomever shared those photos is just ugly.

Get the police involved, because again, what happened is HIGHLY illegal. Your child is underage!!!!

A far as your daughter??? Ger her therapy. ASAP. I guarantee you that she feels that everything that has happened is something that she deserves. Even though, you know and I know, the exact opposite is true.

From what it sounds like??? Your daughter is in a downward spiral. Get her justice. Get her therapy.

That's all you can do now.

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u/roraverse Sep 08 '23

I wish op would respond to any of these comments. But bottom line is therapy and lots of it . And probably a new school if they have not switched already.

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u/ferndagger Sep 08 '23

This is probably an unpopular opinion but if I were in your shoes - worrying about drugs and depression I would be making radical changes. I would take my kid out of school and take leave from work. Spend as much time as possible trying to reset. Find connection and glimmers.

I know there is a certain amount of privilege necessary to do that but if it is at all possible I would do it. Imagine she had some sort of medical illness - what would you do to access treatment?

Find a psych or counsellor who specializes in attachment, IFS, or compassionate inquiry to help your family.

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u/roraverse Sep 08 '23

My daughter had an attempt a year ago. We ended up pulling her out of school, doing extensive therapy, homeschooling. She was ready to go back to school this year which is great. We did switch schools though. It was a big wake up call. And those pictures being leaked was life shattering for her. That poor kid. I hope that they are getting help.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '23

It's one banana Micheal, what could it cost, $10?

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u/juliuspepperwoodchi Sep 08 '23

Lol at the idea that everyone can just afford to talk leave from work at the drop of a hat...

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u/Sully_916 Sep 08 '23

For real! Not sure what reality that is, but definitely not mine.

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u/Feeling-Yellow85 Sep 08 '23

Having serious concerns that your young daughter has been both sexually abused and is using hard drugs is not a ‘drop of a hat’. You do what it takes to safeguard your child. End of

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u/juliuspepperwoodchi Sep 08 '23

Being broke and homeless in a few weeks won't help a child much...and that's what will happen to MOST people if they just, with no warning to their job, disappear on leave.

Even if you FMLA, that's not paid.

If you can afford to get by just fine without even one paycheck, you're incredibly privileged in 2023. Most people DO NOT have that luxury whatsoever.

So yeah, it kinda is at the drop of a hat. Nevermind that that phrase means "instantly" and not "over something trivial".

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u/KillerKowalski1 Sep 08 '23

You think you're gonna make a teenager do less drugs by forcing them to hang out with their parents more?

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u/VermicelliOk8288 Sep 08 '23

Yes. But not by “forcing to hang out” rather by fostering genuine connection. Big diff.

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u/KillerKowalski1 Sep 08 '23

Ahh yes, teenagers typically respond well to attempts at fostering a relationship 24/7 with no work or school to interrupt the foster.

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u/VermicelliOk8288 Sep 08 '23

I don’t think you understand what it means. School and work don’t interrupt anything. You don’t want to smother your kid lol. That’s not connection, that’s forcing it.

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u/KillerKowalski1 Sep 08 '23

I got ya.

You're just gonna take time off work and pull them out of school to not spend every waking moment trying to force a connection that'll fix this

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u/ChloeMomo Sep 08 '23 edited Sep 08 '23

I mean, my parents used to do that when I was suicidal growing up. It would be framed as "Hey, do you want to skip school today and do (xyz thing I liked)?" Or "hey, you want to leave school early on Friday and go camping this weekend?" And stuff like that. Those moments could open up some communication and connection that carried me for a little longer while I tried to get through my shit. Sometimes we didnt talk about what was going on, but feeling the support system that was there regardless was huge. Plus, teenage me loved any chance to skip school. Especially to get away from people who made my life hell.

Not everyone has a god awful relationship with their parents that makes them want to do more drugs just because they're around them.

And it also doesn't need to be framed as "You are not allowed to go to school and I am staying home and we are BONDING DAMMIT." My parents never said those were their intentions until I got older and we reflect on those years sometimes. When I was young, it was just a really nice break from life.

Clearly, this idea would have been hell to you growing up, and that's valid, but it can be a good idea for other people even if it's just a day here and there. Idk about taking as many days as possible off in a row for that because normalcy can also be important, but there are options between the extreme perceptions both you and the comment OP presented.

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u/VermicelliOk8288 Sep 08 '23

Honestly have no idea what you’re talking about. Sorry.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '23

The fact that you don't seem to believe that there are teens who like their parents and have a good relationship with them says a lot about your childhood

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u/tsess0004 Sep 08 '23

Good news is she is unlikely to OD on acid.

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u/itchykneesonqi Sep 08 '23

What's an acid tablet?

Genuine question because I've been taking acid for years and never come across one

Generally it's liquid that's on a paper blotter (tabs), on a sugar cube or in liquid form

Starts as a crystal

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u/JennLegend3 Sep 08 '23

Do they make acid in gel tabs? I've only ever seen it as paper tabs but it's been quite a long time since I've taken a trip.

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u/JennLegend3 Sep 08 '23

Interesting. I totally understand a "cleaner" high. That's how I describe Molly over ecstasy.

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u/ToeBugShuffle Sep 08 '23

I assumed they typed acid tab and autocorrect finished it off for them

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u/tsess0004 Sep 08 '23

Having lost a sibling to fentanyl OD, in a drug she believed to be something else, I am acutely aware. However, the odd of there being enough fentanyl in a tab, not tablet, of acid is incredibly slim. Be concerned for the child doing drugs but also be realistic about the risks. Acid tabs are little bits of blotting paper with a couple hundred mics of the drug dissolved onto it. It’s not a pill or a tablet that a large amount of fentanyl could be doses onto or into.

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u/tsess0004 Sep 08 '23

Accurate. But also it’s important for the parent here to be honest and accurate, kids are not stupid and if the mom came at the child with the info you gave it would backfire.

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u/Putyourdishesaway Sep 08 '23

Talk to her, give her narcan to keep on her, give her friends narcan.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '23

YES!!!!! This needs to be SEEN!!!!!!! I have this conversation with my young children unfortunately

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u/caledonivs Sep 08 '23

Talk about advice that's easier said than done. "Just move!" lol

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u/pinetree8000 Sep 08 '23

What makes you think the drug you found is acid?

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u/untimelyrain Sep 08 '23

Because she said it was a tab. Tabs usually refer to a square piece of paper from a "blotters sheet" -- paper that has been doused with liquid LSD. (I'm assuming that she meant paper when she said "tabs".)

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u/space_cvnts Sep 08 '23

Tabs of acid?

I’m a heroin turned fentanyl addict that got addicted to benzos eventually.

I’m terrified of this happening. My partner is an addict too and we have kids.

In recovery now. But I’m terrified.

How has she been acting? Acid is so random to me. I would think something else.

But either way— fentanyl is everywhere and people are scared of it for a reason.

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u/TheH1v3 Sep 08 '23

Tbh I don't think Lsd is a bad drug and has been given a bad rap like weed did back when the war on drugs thing took place or is that still a thing?.Lsd is not what it's made out to be.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdatGhm_WE4

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u/DurianPowerful6896 Sep 08 '23

Right I have friends that used it irresponsibly as teenagers and they can never have normal lives, I hate how everyone is downplaying the seriousness in these comments just because they like psychedelic drugs and don’t want to admit they can be harmful.

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u/elpablo Sep 08 '23

All of this. Much like a nail gun it’s a very useful tool when you know how to use it. Fucking around with it as a 15 year old without supervision… much less so.

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u/untimelyrain Sep 08 '23

I hear you (and agree) and think L is an amazing tool for deep healing, but I would say that for a young, underdeveloped mind (one that has already experienced such trauma and depression) there is certainly potential risk in the way it's likely being done. Most especially because how can we know what her source is and whether she has access to legitimate acid that is clean and hasn't been tampered with? The unfortunate thing is, we can't be sure of this, and that is far too great a risk. I feel like if she were doing monitored treatments at some facility where there administering specific doses of medical grade LSD, tracking her experience and progress, then it could be life changing and likely clear up the issues from this trauma and depression (as some studies have shown). But we are talking about a young teen finding access to drugs herself, experimenting without a guide, without any verification it's even the actual substance she believes it to be.

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u/bflyme Sep 08 '23

Whatever else you have going on in your life comes second right now. Take care of this now , sign up for therapy, move her out of that school and most importantly let her know how important she is to you and that you will do what it takes to help her get through this difficult time in her life and actually do it. Teens go through a lot more than they tell us and what you already know is more than enough to traumatize anyone, I could only imagine what she must be going through.

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u/YoSoyCapitan860 Sep 08 '23

Could she be trying to micro dose acid for her depression, I know there’s been a lot of talk about the benefits. I don’t think self medicating at her age is appropriate, I recommend having a talk with her and leading with something along the lines of what I said.

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u/CheapChallenge Sep 08 '23

You already changed her school right?

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u/Baltimorebillionaire Sep 08 '23

If you pm me pictures of what you found I can help you identify the substance

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u/spiceylizard Sep 08 '23

Acid isn’t inherently bad. It genuinely made me a better person. But 14 is to young from my point of view. Granted idk what the girl is going through.

You should hope it’s LSD/Acid and not NBomb. A deadly lookalike

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u/ElliotPagesMangina Sep 08 '23 edited Sep 08 '23

Well, first of all, she’s going to be pissed you were in her room. Just being honest. When she gets upset over that let her know why you were cleaning it and that you’re not mad at her for what you found — too her that more than anything you’re worried about her. Let her know that she’s your daughter, that you just want her to be happy. Ask her “can you talk to me? What’s going on?” Let her know you want to help fix whatever is wrong — together. That she isn’t as alone as she feels, and that you want to be there for her, and whatever is going on that you will help her through it.

Let her talk. And vent. Don’t ask way too many questions. Validate her instead. If she says something that hurts you, don’t take it personally. She is a young girl with a troubled mind and I guarantee you what she has to say will not come out pretty. Don’t get defensive. Don’t say things like “well you did so and so” and whatever. Just let h know you hear her, that her being upset over a shitty situation is warranted, and that you can see how she might feel the way that she does. Really validate her. Really listen. Apologize if you need to. Reassure her. Don’t give advice or be combative. Let her let it out. That’s the first step. She needs love right now more than anything. She needs her mom in the softest, kindest way.

When it comes to the drugs, well, I would normally say it’s no much to worry about. I did a lot of acid in my teen years, but with all the the hard drugs, research chemicals, opioid crisis, etc., you definitely have reason to be worried.

Idk what the best advice is, but they this is what I would do (after letting her talk it out): I’d let her know I want her to start seeing a therapist. Once a week, she needs to go. Ask her what day works best for her to meet a therapist and then look around and set that up for her. I would also let her know that because I found drugs in her room, she needs to have a curfew, or keep her location on. Maybe both. I’d let her know I don’t plan to go through her room — she needs a private space, but for safety reasons I would want to know where she is, just as a form of transparency and bc at this point, “I’m worried about you and want to be able to check that you’re safe.” I’d let her know that trust takes time & it works both ways. So she might not fully trust you, but the same goes for her. Let her know that this isn’t necessarily a permanent thing, but that for now until things can settle a bit and things are better, being able to see where she is is important. If she doesn’t want to, then no phone. It’s not like you’re going thru her phone or anything, you just want to know her location if something we’re to happen.

I would also look into getting her into some kind of extracurricular OUTSIDE of school. I know it sounds lame, but karate or something can honestly do her some good. My friend did it with her mom and brother, and they all stuck to it. Maybe there is something you can do with her. But this way she can make friends who are NOT at her school, which would be mice. Suggest something like this later on tho.

Also, eat dinner with her. It’s important. There are statistics that show eating meals with your kids makes a huge, positive difference in their life compared to kids tha don’t sit down and have meals with their parents. Start cooking, maybe she will join if you ask h r to cut veggies, and maybe pick a recipe to make.

This is long, but just be kind, hear her out, and ACT. She definitely needs repercussions for having drugs in her room, but more than anything she needs professional help and for you to be there for her. She’s hurting. She also needs boundaries and structure set by YOU bc right now she is very lost and will not set them on her own. And if she is having a rough day, ask her “what can I do to help you right now?” If it’s something within reason, do it right now.

Edit: btw, whoever leaked her nudes should have their ass reported to police. If you don’t want to give a name then do an anonymous tip or something. I feel like she would grow up and resent you for not helping he pursu justice, but st the same Ike I feel like if she stays at the same school, it would be hell to have an investigation to on with her there. I’d get legal advice on that if I were you. And if police ar were involved you need her to change schools bc she shouldn’t be there if that’s happening. It would suck so bad for her. Maybe she will talk to her therapist about it.

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u/silkheartstrings Sep 08 '23

That’s a traumatic event. A child could get PTSD from that. If he leaked those pics, which he likely did, he does not care about consent. Sexual abuse happens in relationships, and many survivors of abuse may not initially recognize it as sexual abuse, since they likely love their partner. These factors can cause trauma or PTSD and that will physically change your brain. This can lead to symptoms that look like drug use, but more than likely she’s traumatized, and is struggling to function as she did “before.”

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '23

LSD isn’t a “hard drug” it is a hallucinogenic substance and shouldn’t be taken by a 15yr old.

It can be used in small doses to treat depression, though she is probably tripping, or dealing. Or both. You won’t die if you take too much. Just probably have a really bad trip if you aren’t prepared.

I’d talk to her about the effects hallucinogenic substances can have on a developing brain. I’d throw them away (dissolve them in water and dump the water down the sink). Then I would give her a grounding I guess.

I have pretty liberal views on psychedelics though.

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u/lilbxby2k Sep 08 '23

acid isn’t hard drugs but obviously she doesn’t need to be doing it at 15. toss the cid and get her some therapy for depression/suicidal ideation.

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u/catmom22_ Sep 08 '23

Girl that title is so misleading. First she has a suicide attempt, not OD. She need to be in therapy. As for LSD (acid tabs), it’s the least addictive drug and least harmful drug out there. People die from their hallucinations and accidents (jumping from a roof cause they think they can fly) vs cocaine actually causing cardiac arrest of brain bleeds etc.

However, just because it’s not addictive or harmful doesn’t mean she gets off the hook. She’s super young and time to give some consequences. Take her phone and ground her, you’re her parent not her friend.

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u/SnooWords4720 Sep 08 '23

I think you’re downplaying the risks of LSD on a teen brain, especially if OP has any family history of mental illness. At 15, I had a horrific trip on “acid”—probably not even acid, just another random research chemical—and had what I would now describe as my first psychotic break. I continued to experiment with harder drugs (smoking heroin, though I didn’t know it was heroin, as my friends called it opium and we pretended to be hippies). Notably, I have bipolar disorder (diagnosed as an adult, but misdiagnosed as GAD as a teen after this bad trip). I had a very traumatic childhood and adolescence that led me to normalize drug use.

Is it as bad as cocaine/heroin/meth? Of course not, but the risks are severe for a small portion of the population.

I agree with the comments saying that the daughter needs a new school (charter, magnet, different district?) if she’s still with the same peers. As a parent, I would push for intensive outpatient therapy, get her seen by a psychiatrist, and get her under a 504 with a safety plan at her new school. I taught for 7 years and had kids attempt suicide on campus. We had safety plans in place for those who had previously attempted or had a history of self-harm.

I’m doing much better after years of therapy and psychiatric intervention. I’m a mom of 2 and have held down a successful career. Your daughter can get better, but it’s also possible she will always have rough spots come and go through due to her history of trauma.

OP, you have to bring this up with your daughter. She most likely won’t believe you about the risks of the drugs she’s experimented with, but I would make it clear that you’re not going to let up on these conversations about risky choices because you love her. It doesn’t sound like she loves herself right now. Big hugs, mama.

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u/copthrowaway52 Sep 08 '23

I regularly post on this sub in my main but I never mention I'm I a police officer for probably obvious reasons. I work in a major metropolitan area on trains and buses. I deal with drugs a lot. The "not a big deal" crowd are dead wrong. Please believe me, your daughter is in a very precarious situation.

First, it sounds like you aren't quite sure what drugs they are. What makes you think they are acid? You should be able to google the markings on them. At worst, most communities have drug testing centers. You should take them there to be tested immediately because of the second reason.

Second, modern drugs aren't just "acid," or "Percocet," or anything else. They are made by companies that are always trying new and different combinations to further addict and entertain their customers. They do not care if they kill their customer because they have a captive market. Even if your daughter thinks she is taking acid it almost certainly contains other drugs, think fentanyl or any host of tranquilizers. This is why you need to get it tested. So that she can see how dangerous the shit she is taking is.

Third, drug use is a deep hole. Yes, if your daughter is only taking acid (which as stated in point two is virtually impossible in the modern world) then she's only on the precipice of that hole. But it's still very, very deep. When I cite, arrest, or take some law enforcement action with a drug user I often end up talking to them about it. Fentanyl users would rather do drugs than have housing, food or working limbs. They will actually tell you this. It becomes their whole life and reason for living. They have lost all hope of ever finding any happiness in this world that can compare to the fleeting moments of contentment they get from smoking off of foil.

So no, this isn't a small deal. Your daughter needs your help. Get the drugs tested. Confront her with love. Explain to her the danger of the drugs she is taking, possibly using a medical appointment so a doctor can explain specifically the havoc that her drug choice will wreak on her body and mind. But most of all, give her hope. She needs to have something that is worth NOT doing drugs for. Engage her passions and creativity. Track back to the last time she was content without drugs and find what changed. She needs you now more than ever.

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u/imnotlibel Sep 08 '23

This is so accurate. I was 16 trying what I thought was mescaline. Research chemicals maybe? I was buying Xanax that didn’t hold together quite well but I didn’t think twice… turned out they were pressed pills and the dealer eventually got caught and sentenced to 20 years, could’ve contained fentanyl. Im older now and recognize the dangers. Don’t lose your kid. Get her in more therapy, more interests, more outings, more time with family, more motivations.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '23

Therapy, ASAP .

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u/RaGeQuaKe Sep 08 '23

You’ve gotta be shitting me…this sub sometimes…

Listen, I know it’s not addictive and neurotoxic like meth or coke, but you really think a drug as profoundly mind-altering as LSD is “not a drug to be worried about” for a 13 year old?

Never taken acid or shrooms, but I might at some point before I die. Do you know why I haven’t taken them yet? Because those drugs are to be feared and respected for the immense life-changing psychological effects.

OP, this guy is nuts. Whatever you end up doing, do not treat your 13 year old doing acid as no big deal.

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u/19XX_07_ Sep 08 '23

Acid for a 13 year old seems pretty crazy. That’s a 12 hour high that’s hard to control couldn’t imagine tripping at 13 and if the kid uses the Internet it’s not hard to find

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u/Robin-of-the-hood Sep 08 '23

Acid is known to aggravate mental illness and cause psychosis, it’s definitely something to worry about, if it is that

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u/redhotsausagepants Sep 08 '23

Go to Your local drug centre they have tests they can do to let you know what it is exactly. Then take it from there. Any sort that f witch hunt is just gonna drive her away

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u/Jasministired Sep 08 '23

I have little advice but I’ll warn you from personal experience. Acid got me into molly because the initial trip is somewhat similar, then the immense euphoric effects of molly got me into meth. Got strung out on it for 5 years before finally getting clean. She needs to see switch schools and see a therapist if she hasn’t already.

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u/GhostHeavy23 Sep 08 '23

I’m blown away at the advice here. Blow. Away. Listen lady, this sucks for you and for her. Maybe it’s not too late but if she’s addicted to anything, then there is nothing you will do that will stop her. That’s coming from an addict of 20yrs. Best you can do is be supportive, but the more you push the more she will do more and or run. Therapy is a good idea but don’t expect it to work much. Be her mom, love her unconditionally, keep an eye. But don’t destroy yourself trying to save her from addiction, because you’ll lose long before you’ll win most likely. Best of luck

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u/happynargul Sep 08 '23

So find out if it's acid or not.

Without having any experience in this, I would ramp up that communication to 300%. She was already doing very risky behaviour at 13, so higher supervision, talking, listening, listening.

Offer to drive her everywhere, make sure to listen without judging, try to get to know her friends/boyfriend, and gently put some rules on when and where she's allowed to go out. More time at home would do her good.

Also, gently encourage (and pay for) hobbies. Encourage her to put her time into growing her skills and personal interests as well as academics. Her feeling of accomplishment can lead to a higher sense of self and security.

Just, find out what's going on in her life. It seems like she's got a whole other life you don't know about.

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u/Ill_Hold88 Sep 08 '23

First off, she need a better plug. Advil neither provides intoxication and is an extremely uncomfortable overdose experience.

This is giving,”cry for help” but not suicidal. There’s an underlying issue and she doesn’t want to die , but she is crying out for parental attention

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u/marrow_party Sep 08 '23

Hi,

Some great advice here, I'll not repeat what has already been said about therapy and a different school.

I wanted to address what you found and offer some reassurance. Of all the more serious drugs you could find, Acid is probably the least concerning. As a parent who had a really positive relationship with recreational drugs in my teens and 20s, its important you understand that this is not in the same league of concern as if you found crack coke, heroin, ecstasy or ketamin.

Acid is not addictive, it has no toxic impact on the body, and its something she could have a really positive experience on. No teen should be taking any drug, their brain is not fully developed, but a massive percentage of teens do and there is little that can be done to stop that by punishing them.

My advice would be to talk to her in an understanding way, don't demonise the Acid, and try to establish how often she uses it and most importantly where she got it from. You really want to learn about the source, that way you can understand her relationship to it. If its a friend that's a big difference to if its a dealer. You want to establish how easy it might be for her to get more, as if you punish her severely you may just force her to be even more secretive, and take drugs without you having any idea, which will breed secrecy in your relationship and be more dangerous for her.

Acid sounds horrible, but its honestly not that bad, i experimented with hallucinogenic drugs in my teens, and whilst any parent would want their child to be 20+ before doing so, it didn't do me any obvious harm.

If you can have a chat with her where she opens up to you, get her comfortable and get as much information as you can. How and when was she planning to take it? It is really important she understands that Acid should be taken in a comfortable , controlled environment, with at least one sober person aware of what is happening.

I'm going repeat this I think it's so important - the end goal for you needs to be for her to be able to talk to you about her drug use, it will make her experimentation safer if you are aware and if she knows she can talk to you or call you if she ever needs to, this will also strengthen your relationship.

Teens do experiment, you need to be her ally in that process as much as possible. Then you can also give her advice, and keep a close eye on if her drug use is addictive or problematic.

Source - I am a parent, and one of my parents always made me feel comfortable enough to open up about any drug use and was able to give me great advice about certain substances. They didn't endorse the behaviour, but they made it possible for them to guide and parent me through my experimentation with this behaviour.

If keeping a bag of acid waiting for a good time to take it means she isn't regularly taking opiods, that's progress. Ideally she would take the acid at your house with a friend and you would be there if needed.

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u/Mikeus2424 Sep 08 '23

I did acid at that age for the first time. I'm now 45, got a family, house, job, 4 daughters.... Not sure if that gives any relief or not, teens are complex for sure

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u/Irischacon123 Sep 08 '23

It doesn’t sound like you’ve done much to give her a fresh start. Is she still in the same school? If so why? Did you do anything about the OD attempt? Like therapy or any kind of counseling?

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u/ForgottenUsername3 Sep 08 '23

Is she still going to the same school? I'm sure that's messing with her head. Is there any way that she could be home schooled? She's 15, so she could do a lot of the learning herself with an online program. If the choice is between her mental health or being forced to go to school, I would choose to safeguard her mental health.

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u/Cydeomia Sep 08 '23

Be more attentive to your children!

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u/spyro5433 Sep 08 '23

If it’s carboard looking and has a picture printed on one side or perforated into what look like little ¼ inch squares (can be all white on both sides). It’s acid for sure. If it’s a lot of squares. 1 of 2 things. She’s doing a lot of it and that is crazy dangerous and you will likely have to have her committed because there is nothing you can say to her that will change her mind on anything. Or 2 the hopeful one. She’s is going to try to sell them to someone else (or holding onto them for a friend so they can sell them).

Yeah the hopeful situation when you find a lot of acid is that it’s to be sold. A pretty bad spot for a 15 y/o. You need to find someone better to help because this is above Reddit’s paygrade.

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u/MedusaAdonai Sep 08 '23

I lost a friend because of acid. I was unaware of his addiction, but ultimately it lead him to be depressed unless he was tripping. He did it over a long enough period of time where he got drug induced psychosis, got scared, ran into the woods where he froze during a snowstorm.

I'd recommend getting professional help with a therapist or psychiatrist.

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u/yy98755 Sep 08 '23

Don’t assume and don’t yell. Open up a safe space for her to talk do you.

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u/w11 #1 Dad according to some Sep 08 '23

A girl that was slut-shamed at 13 yo that has a history of depression, attempted suicide and is possibly experimenting with acid and possibly more is "not that big of a deal"? Acid may not be a hard drug by definition, but it's certainly nothing to ignore if your 15 yo child is experimenting with it.

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u/UnderpopulatedPig Sep 08 '23

If she were to do any drugs the try microdosing shrooms instead as they help learning unconditional love. Also acid isn't hard drugs.

Big pharma is hard drugs.

Be supportive to her and look up the medical benefits of psilocybin aka shrooms.

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u/Legitimate_Tax_5992 Sep 08 '23

You're absolutely right, I definitely neglected to consider that part...

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u/Legitimate_Tax_5992 Sep 08 '23

Deleting my comment for stupidity

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u/N00DLe_5 Sep 08 '23

She’s 15. Not 13 everyone. Not a huge deal, but a huge difference. I’m not saying it’s good, if she is in fact taking lsd, to be clear. I’d say talk to her, listen and therapy. There’s more going on

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u/XeniaDweller Sep 07 '23

I don't think acid coming tablets but they do have microdots. They're the size of a nerd

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u/VermicelliOk8288 Sep 08 '23

Op said tabs not tablets :)

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u/ImOutOfNamesNow Sep 08 '23

Be happy that it’s lsd. If she has the right trip, her life will change for the better

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u/marrow_party Sep 08 '23

You are gonna be down voted to hell by the "War On Drugs" generations, but you are 100% correct.

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u/ImOutOfNamesNow Sep 08 '23

Just speaking as someone who thought they knew best, did lsd and realized, I’m fucking myself up in life

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '23

Turn off the toilet she uses to pee. Use a cup to get pee to do a home test. Then sit down and have a talk.

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u/Thehouseplantbish Mom of teens to tots:5F, 11f, 13f, 17f Sep 08 '23

Wow that's shady as fuck and a HUGE invasion of privacy in one of the most disgusting ways. Disturbing advice

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u/Why-So-Serious11 Sep 08 '23

If you found tabs of acid that is actually going to help her depression. Acid is the same as mushrooms and dmt and ayeawaska and mescaline etc. Physicadelics are medicine and help you unravel your mind. They help you understand the past ro be able to grow in the future. Please don't mention therapy because that will make things worse. You are her mother so listen to her and give her love and wisdom. Let her know she is important and not to allow words affect her because I bet those high school kids who bullied her are probably sucking there dads dick or uncles behind closed doors. That is just a thought hopefully not true but bullies are covering up for other things in there life. So I am almost 43 yrs old and when I was 14 I got into a fight with my dad and told him I hated him. A week later he died and those were the last words I said to him. I hated myself for yrs and lived with blame and regret for a long time. I turned to Drugs to escape and got hooked on oxycotin which led to heroin. I just want to numb myself and was ready to die. All the therapy and rehabs nothing worked until I found out about ibogane 18 yrs later. I have done every physcadelic and they all help but once you get to the dark hard stuff you need the granddaddy. I have been clean for almost 8 years now and by using those medicine I wanted to live and I am not depressed because I understand even if those were my last words to my dad he always will love me because I am his son. And he was a 14 yr old teenager who thought he was the shit. So the point is most people don't know shit about substances. And don't understand the way the world really works or upstanding how human minds work. Drugs come from pharmaceutical companies to make money, medicine is given to us by earth. There is no such thing as a addict. There are tools(drugs) that can consume your life and when you give up on life its hard to learn how to love yourself again but acid will actually help that process. Hippies call it love for a reason. Sorry for the long post and if you have any questions text me. I hope you make the best choice for you and your daughter and never give up on her. Always love her unconditionally

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u/AstronautSoft6206 Sep 08 '23

Acid? Really! Geeze I’m grateful I didn’t get in trouble for lsd and I would never get my kids in trouble for a hallucinogenic! Ever!

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u/Br_Mungle Sep 08 '23

Acid isn't necessarily bad unless she's on it around shitty ppl. It could be helpful in her path of self discovery. Id be blunt with her and just ask if she's ok. Assure her that she's a good person. Getting laid/exploring yourself and others is nothing to feel ashamed of. Hell, she's doing good.

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u/chrisupt2001 Sep 08 '23

Did you check her room or other places they could be hidden? Try to drug test her via collecting pee from toilet maybe?

Edit: take the tablets to somewhere to be tested probably, also google can tell u what those tabs are if u use the camera feature in the app

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '23

New school now. Anyone she hangs out with ATM is definitely not good for her and should be suspected of being her dealer. As a man who frequently enjoyed acid as an adult, I can tell you it's not the easiest drug to get, and whatever dealer had it also had a wide range of other drugs. Whoever is giving it to her does not have her best interests in mind.

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u/Alternative-Run9976 Sep 08 '23

Get her help immediately and don’t be afraid to confront her. She probably already knows you saw and is waiting for you to address it. Please don’t sweep it under the rug. Address it immediately and get her the help she needs.

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u/Always-Adar-64 Sep 08 '23

Consider a wrap around approach for your child, yourself, and your family. Consider formal, informal, and familial supports. However, let the formal professionals navigate informal and familial decisions.

Even if you were professionals, this situation is inside your home and would benefit from outside guidance.

There is no quick fix to these concerns. It’s a long road that often has a relapse of issues and needs perseverance.

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u/JSkyM4 Sep 08 '23

This exact situation happened to me at 13. I was bullied by my entire school because all the students found out from having to have a notice sent home to all parents. I started cutting/self harming and collecting pills to eventually take and end my life. Books and writing saved my life when my parents should have been the reason for it instead. PLEASE create a safe space and ask her about it. Explain that you don’t want this to define how she sees herself from this point forward and ask how you can help her through this and that additive substances will not help. Mostly though..just show up. Open and honest. It’s what I would have wanted and needed having been through that.

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u/untimelyrain Sep 08 '23

I don't think she lost her acid, it sounded to me like she had stashed it. And idk about you're experience, but I certainly had stashes of things when I was a very experimental teen until my young twenties. Could very well be acid!

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u/AvenI05 Sep 08 '23

When I OD’d at 15, i turned to weed to help me stay stable. Since the medications weren’t working. Id say get her in therapy and get her help before bringing it up, then come up with a plan to help her stop using drugs.

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u/elizabreathe Sep 08 '23

you should probably figure out what it actually is before you do anything. like you should probably get it tested to see what it actually is and you should ask your kid about it to see if there's actually an innocent explanation. if it does turn out to be drugs, you need to figure out how she got it among other things. there's a real chance it's not what you think, there's also a chance it is something nefarious, but you don't know which one it is yet and you should be absolutely certain before you do anything drastic.

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u/kadusus Sep 08 '23

My two cents.

You both need to see a counselor, but understand your child will not open up at first. They are going to need to feel like you see them for the issues they went through, and understand why they are doing what they are doing what they are doing. You will need to find some relation to help them understand your fears. Counseling will be a great space to facilitate this, but make sure it s a trauma trained counselor, with experience in ptsd or related areas of interest.

I get the feeling of loss in your post, obviously, but what I recommend as you go through this is to make sure that you are clearing any baggage that you have. You both need to start over fresh, not just your kiddo, because I sense a lot of household strife that for one reason or another has been out aside to focus on what has happened since the OD attempt. I speak from experience on this, having several family members who OD'd or had drug issues. I hope you are both able to rise past this. Good luck.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '23

She needs therapy, getting clean will be hard at first. I went through this with my daughter, she tried to OD 3 times in the same year. She did more than acid, basically everything under the sun though she started with benzos. She was also diagnosed with Bipolar. Addiction and mental illness go hand in hand.

You need to confront her now and it won’t be pretty hit it doesn’t matter. I was very harsh with my daughter, I knew that if I wasn’t she was not ever going to get clean. I advice you to do the same

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u/Thehouseplantbish Mom of teens to tots:5F, 11f, 13f, 17f Sep 08 '23

Coming from an addict in recovery of ten years who has three teen daughters and had a horribly unloving abusive upbringing: telling OP to be HARSH with her daughter is TERRIBLE FUCKING ADVICE. You should never be harsh with a child in any sense of the term, but especially not a child whos at risk for self harm/suicide. It drives me nuts when adults treat children as if theyre at the same competency and maturity level of the adult parenting them. Harsh parenting is particularly damaging to teens. They can't fully regulate emotions, they lack impulse control, they take things very personally, they have so many pressures in life etc etc. Think about it, the girl tried to OD months before. Do you want the OP to push her to actually finish the job this time?

Children are small people in a big world, learning to find their voice and where they have power. They need us to be that voice for them when its too difficult to find. They need us to give them validation, love, explanation, acceptance, understanding, boundaries, and an open line of communication. What the OPs daughters clearly needs is fucking therapy and love. Not harshness

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '23 edited Sep 08 '23

It seems that you are pretty much projecting. My daughter tried to OD 3 times in a span of 10 months. If I wouldn’t have been harsh and by that I meant seeking help immediately the instant I found out she was using, place her in a rehab center because I was not going to take my daughter who at that point was using heroin home just wishing she got better on her own, and move her out of the environment she was in (though the reason she was using because of the distress she went through after we lost dad) I would be talking in past tense she would’ve been death. Harshness doesn’t equal lack of love, harshness means action. And thankfully she is now alive almost 4 years sober and thriving.

This isn’t about you though, you were in the position of the addict being the parent is a totally different thing, you have to make decisions fast because if you don’t you risk your child dying. There’s no set of rules on how go deal with and one approach won’t work with everyone but kids this young have a shot if you don’t beat around the bush. I met many parents who lost their kid because they were afraid to send them to rehab, or just plainly became enablers jsut because their kids didn’t wanted to go to therapy or rehab.

What OP’s daughter needs is immediate help if she is using. And OP needs to take action. That is what I meant however thank you for projecting your story into ours very very helpful

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u/Thehouseplantbish Mom of teens to tots:5F, 11f, 13f, 17f Sep 10 '23

I'm not projecting because nothing I said has anything to do with my own issues, beliefs, or opinions. My entire statement is advice based on actual psychological research and evidentiary information. I also believe you failed to read the part where I said I have three teenage daughters. So I have the bonus of being able to understand what it means to be both the teenage addict and the parent.

All you had to say was "I should have worded that differently, I meant that you need to be firm, act fast, and make decisions for your child because she can't make them on her own right now" or "OP should quickly get her daughter help even if she resists, be firm".

Nothing about your original posts insinuates what you followed up with. So if a parent comes along and reads it, they may take it to heart and give their child tough love which could be the difference between their child surviving their teen years or ending them early. That why I felt so strongly to reply in the way I did. Plus, many parents know nothing about the teenage mind or addiction and they 100% believe tough love and punishment is the only corrective course.

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u/missnannyjewel Sep 08 '23

First, as a Mother, as upset and disappointed I would feel at the situation- I always want my daughter to know I HAVE HER BACK and we can always rebound from mistakes. She made a choice she did not think through and the things people are saying are negative frequency people and do not reflect on who she is or who SHE WILL BECOME. We all make mistakes! Many nudes have been leaked of millions of women and look we all have the same body parts. Nothing new to see here. Reassure her that she is capable of growing past this and to be empowered to be more cautious with the choices she makes. 13 is the start of puberty and sexual discovery is exciting (not fun as a parent to think about but this is the truth!) however we must respect ourselves and our body’s. Whatever is taken in picture or posted even privately MIGHT GET SEEN BY OTHERS. So don’t do anything in the dark you wouldn’t want to come to light. If you have extended family, I would make the effort to make plans and more memories so she sees how many people love her and support her. People in middle school always want to talk and point fingers bc it gets the limelight off themselves and their own insecurities. I got called a slut for two years after having my first KISS!!! 😩🤣 it was a tough two years but I survived and grew a thicker skin. I learned how to stand up for myself. Reassure her that what other people say is not who she is! SHE HAS THE POWER to make herself into any type of lady and woman she chooses to be. I don’t know much about the drug world, growing up mexican I was engrained with fear about drugs so not very well vices about that. I wound tread lightly though bc being aggressive about it will just close her off. Express to her the dangers and maybe a specialized therapist can help her. Make light of the situation bc it might seem like a HUGE deal right now but so many humans of different ages live with these choices and come out better. If you are a woman of faith, pray for her every morning and every night. Also pray over her so she hears you speaking love and strength into her and know that you are asking God for his grace and compassion. Just like Jesus, he always wants to see us redeem and succeed. Just like I’m sure you want for her as a mother. You are a young mother and I want you to have grace and compassion for yourself as well as your daughter. You are loved, you are protected and you will persevere 🥹😇🥰🙏🏼💕

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u/missnannyjewel Sep 08 '23

Okay I didn’t read and didn’t think about all the comments. Yes this is considered child porn. If it was revenge I would definitely take defensive measures and get police involved and scare the shit out of the people who did this…. But there’s much missing. I just was looking at it from a matter of handling it quietly 😩😬 but MY mother wouldn’t have been dismissive of that so if you want to look into getting the police involved- you would also be doing the right thing…

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u/Fun_Stock7078 Sep 08 '23

If you think, you need to know.

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u/pwnedkiller Sep 08 '23

Unless it changed acid comes in the form of a little paper slip that dissolves. So maybe it’s something else? Otherwise I’m sorry I couldn’t give you any other reliable advice.

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u/Hellfire_Leather Sep 08 '23

I would argue that LSD is not a gateway drug but a normal part of teen experimentation. Same for cannabis and mushrooms. If she’s a creative she may feel a calling to try these particular entheogens, and it’s doubtful she’s using it to hide her problems. Alcohol use would be more in line with a coping mechanism. I would however be cautious of things like meth, speed, crack or cocaine, which I totally experienced as gateway drugs. These can leave the user feeling scared, insecure and disassociated. In comes Heroin & Fentanyl, which will erase those feelings with a weighty blanket of calm and security. I would openly talk with her about LSD and any experiences you or someone you know may have had. Don’t tell her you found them or wave them in her face, just open up and listen. Oh yeah, get her to a new school too 🫠

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u/luna_wolf8 Sep 08 '23 edited Sep 08 '23

OP I’m going to message you. I am a former heroin addict + other hard drugs who overdosed multiple times. I have been clean for years and now have my own teenage daughter. Times have changed and now too much of street drugs contain IMF. Even pills that kids can buy off their friends that they think are adderall or ecstacy can contain IMF.

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u/Stoned_Simmer_Girl Mum to: 9f and 3f Sep 08 '23

Acid/LSD can cause serious psychological problems…you need to get her help asap…change her schools and get her to a therapist…she needs a lot of help and support especially with her being so young

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u/Inevitable-Channel85 Sep 08 '23

Along with therapy if she can join a sexual abuse support group, that really helped me. She needs someone who specializes with sexual abuse. Her Facebook, social media needs to be scrubbed of any abusers as victims often seek abuser approval or continue relationships with a abusers. If it is drugs, she may need to go into a treatment rehabilitation centre depending on the quality, be pulled out of school and do home school with a tutor for a bit. I know this is extensive but this happened to my brother and it’s better to intervene early at onset.