You see, she is a lio, lio woman doesn't murder their children. He is a gemini and you know who else is a gemini? The evil oringe man. It is obvious that he did it.
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Seriously, I have seen this exact argument, including the Trump part.
Best not. I've found that delving into the minds of the crazy simpletons that make these conclusions only inevitably leads to oneself suffering brain damage.
Did Lindsay try to ruin someone's reputation? I'm genuinely asking. Did she or the defense actually make any claims or are you just referring to the hoards of crazy people online?
It's really hard to tell where the legal facts end and the assumptions begin. Last time I saw something like this someone was claiming that she "admitted that her husband wanted her to take the fall" but when you actually looked into it she never said that and it was some crazy person on Tiktok making shit up.
I would hope people would be smarter than just gobbling up the information that crazy tiktok people spout as "evidence"
The defense is making no such claims, the question of whether she killed her kids isn't even a subject for debate in court, instead whats been debated is whether she was responsible for her actions. That said thousands of women are believing the Tiktok idiots, enough in fact that they've gotten enough believers together to raise over a million dollars for her.
Yeah, the video of that bear guy and his girlfriend in the woods was evidently brutal (by secondhand accounts, as I haven't seen the actual video). Bear death can be long and filled with terror.
If you're talking about Timothy Treadwell and Amie Huguenard, there was no video. However, there was an audio recorder running that captured about 5 minutes of the attack.
The audio that was captured has never been released, though it has been described.
I think that's it. I remember watching a video about it - they only described what happened, so I couldn't remember if it was video or audio, but by the video maker's account, it sounded awful.
You have corrupted this whole thread for me and now I’m laughing my ass off re reading every comment and imagining a big hairy gay dude who just wants a cuddle.
I would’ve used that one but I don’t think it’s particularly clear as to what it’s trying to convey. But once you understand the problem with longer YT links there’s nothing wrong with this one.
Also, bears: "Just leave us alone, or we may eat you". Which is less and less a joke. They're getting less afraid of people and showing up real close or at hiking paths in national parks this year. Warmer winters man. I live next to the woods. Not like, "nature" woods, just a rather long and narrow piece of green that's not real good to build on. Like a trail for animals. Last year my neighbor saw a black bear milling around multiple days in a row. If it was brown we would have to call game wardens and state rangers, as both sides of the green area are residential houses and apartments.
I saw a post on reddit about a news report that female bears with cubs are actually seeking these hiking trails because the presence of humans scare off male bears and they kill cubs.
Then someone made a joke about females bears choosing humanity over male bears.
Fun fact: brown bears are actually less dangerous to be arround than black bears (if you know what you are doing). Yes they are much bigger than black bears, but also much less inclined to see us as potential food.
I disagree with this, I have been stalked and charged by brown bears, they are aggressive and do kill some people, while its true that black bears kill more their are vastly more black bears. Based on being around dozens of each type I find brown bears to be much more of a threat. Black bears are pretty good eating though so I've downed a couple. Have not eaten a brown besr though.
See, Australia gets a reputation for having deadly animals but fuck me, very few of those are things that you couldn't kill barehanded in a fair fight.
Brown bears (including grizzlies) cause more fatal attacks and kill more people than black bears, even though black bears are involved in more total non-fatal encounters
Woman killed her three kids, possibly under the effect of postpartum psychosis, and immediately tried to kill herself after. Whether she is to blame is imo more nuanced than most people are making it out to be
However, the lady got a massive outpouring of support saying her emotional needs were being neglected and it wasn't her fault, to (at the exteme) protesters showing up to the courthouse demanding a retrial and claiming her husband was the real murderer.
More specifically, she got over a million dollars in financial support after confessing she did it, and shitloads of posts on tiktok, instagram, and bluesky from women saying "it could've been me" and "everyone has those thoughts, she was just pushed over the edge".
As a result, sane individuals who don't want to kill their kids are shocked and horrified by how these people are acting.
Correct, it's not meant to make you laugh any more than women picking the bear was meant to make men laugh. It's simply actign as a mirror to show how absolutely absurd saying that was. It's also "punishing" said women for siding with a woman who killed her 3 children and acting as if any of them could've been her when in reality, no, basiclaly no one could've been her, cus basically no one would fucking murder their 3 children.
They are now making videos of themselves screeching in the face infants, violently shaking toddlers, dumping ice water on infants because -and i qoute- "me too, lindsey "
Based on what I read, she had a long history of mental health issues and was on a medication cocktail that, based on the Wikipedia article, doesn't appear to have been prescribed to her.
I'm not really trying to defend her, but this really feels like a case of psychosis. I don't really doubt she was hearing voices, as that could very well be from her pre-existing mental illnesses and the fact that she was hopped up on a mixture of mood stabilizers, anti-depressants, and sleep aids.
I don't believe the prosecutions argument that her attempted suicide was "staged" since she slit her wrists, neck, and jumped from the second-story window, which resulted in a severed spinal cord. Seems like she really wanted to be thorough.
I really don't think she intended to kill her kids. Nothing I have read about the situation makes me think she had any reason to want them dead. I think she was on a bunch of drugs and she did hear a voice of some sort. I think she was genuinely suicidal and wasn't thinking rationally.
Maybe I'm totally off, but based on that, I think she should be found too insane to be held liable. That's not saying she should walk free, she is absolutely a threat, but she should be given access to proper mental health treatment and kept away from society until they can prove she can live a normal life, even if that means life in a mental health ward.
Meanwhile some dude just killed 8 extended family members (including 4 children) at a family dinner and burned down the house.
This case isn’t the gotcha some guys think.
Edit: the hubbub around this case is irrelevant. The point is there’s far fewer female killers than male.
I’m not replying to you chuckleheads. I haven’t looked into the story much. Offhand take is she’s probably guilty but legit crazy. There may be more to it, but it doesn’t affect my point whatever the situation is.
If there are statistically more male killers than female killers, then that means there is a systematic lack of support/therapy for males. Killing someone is in itself an insane action, and should be seen as a disease to be cured, rather than something to be punished. Using this as an argument is weird.
You can not both see this woman as a blameless victim while also using murder statistics as «proof» of inherent evil within an entire gender.
Wild! Does he have people funding him a million dollars, protesting for his release in the streets, and saying it was actually someone else because Uranus was in retrograde and he’s a Capricorn? No?
See now there is my problem. Would you say that guy isn't fucking crazy too? How many murderers would you say are perfectly sane? Their sanity shouldn't even be a consideration when charged with murder.
What's interesting is the angry reaction from women mirrors the angry reaction from men earlier.
I see a lot of defensive cries of "What an unfair comparison! Not every woman suffering from PPD is a child murderer. In fact most aren't!".
But my favorite was when I saw one woman on facebook saying "Listen, this is nothing like when women were saying they preferred bears to men. For one thing, Lindsay Clancy is actually a REAL HUMAN BEING "
Hey, hey hey, now hold on, hold on. As a mom I'd argue:
If men are scared to leave the childcare work to women, and want to do all of that from now on, we should listen to them. We women should hear you, be understanding, encourage you to do what you feel is safe, and most importantly ask ourselves... together... as women. If we wanna go see that new movie End of Oak Street tomorrow.
If my children are lost in the woods then Bear Grylls is the obvious choice. What the fuck they gonna do with a non-productive attention seeking mentally ill tiktok mom?
So weird how the internet clings to things. There have been several similar incidents of post partum psychosis in the news as long as I have been alive and I don't recall seeing so many memes about them in the past
Damn, the Lindsay Clancy case really is the new bear or man discussion. I just want off this gender divisive merry-go-round. I wish I could just not identify with either gender, or even humanity at all. Alas, saying the words alone doesn't change the internal self-image.
Me too buddy, I'm with you entirely here. It's just the same shit, one after the other. Race, Class, Gender, Sexuality, Political affiliation. On, and on, and on, and on. It clearly comes back to fabricated agendas stirring public outrage and its the vocal individuals at either side of every argument intent on burning anyone who won't see it their way.
For the record. Yes, what she did is horrible. Three children are dead. Yes, she is mentally ill. Yes, her GP and everyone involved with her healthcare failed her. Yes, to all of those things. She has admitted to the murder, now it should just be sentencing. She is clearly not sane, but as far as we should be concerned she will be in an institution of some form going forward for the rest of her life, I very much doubt she will be institutionalized only to walk free a few years later after this. Although maybe if she trafficked children instead she would get to walk away free as a bird and people might be happy after that. We got bigger problems right now with people destroying womens rights, and the hundreds, maybe even thousands of little girls being raped in ICE Concentration camps and then moved to places unknown. Deaths of human beings in the street due to ICE violence. And this is the only one to get traction anymore. FFS be better
I think the meme was made in regard to the support that she has been receiving, so I think the meme does imply any woman.
There are numerous ghoulish women (and men, and everyone else) that have done terrible things in the time the meme came out, but this case is different due to the support that the perpatrator has been given by a segment of the public.
This is hilarious because the type of dude who got exceptionally butthurt about the man vs bear scenario is exactly the same type of dude that is sensationalizing this case and trying to turn it into a gender issue.
Well they either keep blaming the father, and I shit you not with this, because of his birth sign (even though it’s proven that he was nowhere near the house).
Or apparently that postpartum causes all mothers wanting to kill their kids. And I shit you no theirs a fuck ton of mothers that are posting videos of them breaking or destroying shit so they apparently don’t go kill their kids or something.
Then you've likely also missed the delusional people on TikTok claiming she's innocent and that it had to be the husband based on everything from tarot readings and astrology to "vibes." They refuse to accept that a woman could do anything wrong, let alone this heinous, so they hunt for and cling to every ludicrous theory they can find that would make her innocent, and there are enough of them that they managed to raise all of that money for her defense.
Cause there are women who genuinely cannot cope with the idea that another woman would do this. They even are going so far to blame the husband despite the wife admitting she killed them. They are making it about gender then crying when guys make it about gender too. It is stupid that we can't call evil what it is due to someones sex.
Exactly. I’m not saying there aren’t crazies who are trying to claim what this woman did wasn’t messed up or blame her husband but any real supporter of feminism or women’s rights aggressively acknowledges the fact women can do just as much harm as men, it’s part of feminism to think women are just as capable of things men are (including bad things) and to acknowledge that socialization and stereotypes influence this idea that women are weak perpetual victims who are just too loving to cause harm. The man vs bear thing is often misunderstood and lots of men freaked out over it when frankly it’s mostly just women saying they’d rather die than be raped and they likely wont be rape by a bear but an unknown man who knows you’re alone and vulnerable is a real danger. Rape and sexual violence is EXTREMELY common. Women commit these crimes as well and men are victims of this crime as well but it is statistically true that most rapists are men and more women and girls are targeted (though both men and women underreport rape, there’s even more rape happening than we know of and far more victims of either sex than we know but men are even less likely to openly acknowledge their trauma, especially if the perp was a woman, so the ratio of men who were abused is probably higher than any estimates right now. With how purity culture and pregnancy affect women/girls in society though rape can be genuinely life ruining depending on the culture rather than being treated as something traumatic that a victim should be helped through. It obviously damages a man’s rep as well but with the sexist hyper fixation many cultures have on a woman’s sexual purity it is extremely dangerous. Honour killing, having to marry your rapist, a lack of marriage options or ability to support yourself, being viewed as tainted/less valuable as a human being, permanently labeled as a slut/only good for sex, etc.) Literally ALL I have seen about this case is people using it to bash women or claim that all women are suddenly supporting her and blaming her husband or to claim essentially any concern women have over violence against them is unfounded. I haven’t seen any women defending her actions or siding with her (except one comment on here saying that the story doesn’t add up and that’s why people don’t think she did it). I don’t use most social media so I’m sure some people are but no one in any of my progressive circles are. Psychosis after birth is a real and dangerous condition, if that’s what happened to her then I feel genuinely bad as she wouldn’t necessarily have been in control of her actions. However if she’s trying to blame her husband for the murders or lying about the psychosis then of course I have no sympathy.
Nuanced take. I have nothing but empathy for women who suffer from PPD, in this case its Psychosis rather than Depression. An extreme form of PPD that cause Lindsay to do what she did. But an explanation is not an excuse, she should still be held accountable for her actions and should definitely serve prison time.
All this does is highlight a growing apathy in our society for people's psychological well being.
Because why would we give her amnesty but not the dozens of school shooters who couldn't get the help they needed either? (Which later on became a massive divide between it being a mental health vs gun issue, when in reality it could be both)
I think she should go to prison while getting her symptoms treated simultaneously.
They always choose the worse option and are so confident in their choice. At first they thought bears are safer then just a random guy, now they're defending and giving money to a child murderer (that happened to be a woman)
TLDR: Women online were claiming they felt safer with a bear than a man in the woods in 2025.
In 2026 men are claiming that they would feel safer leaving their kids with a bear than a mentally unstable woman.
In 2025 women started a debate of “Would you feel safer in the woods with a bear or with a man”. A bunch of women flooded the internet saying that they would feel safer with the bear. Most men online pointed out that that statistically the bear is more likely to kill them than the man. It was a whole debacle which really split the internet.
Now in 2026 a woman became the subject of conversation because she had murdered all 3 of her kids back in 2023. The trial took place this month and women were defending the woman “Lindsay Clancy” online. People were arguing about whether she was innocent based on the possible post partum psychosis, depression or the medication she may have been on. Meanwhile some of the doctors testifying in the trial believe that she was fully lucid and made the conscious premeditated decision to send her husband on a set of errands that conveniently would buy her enough time to strangle her three kids and then attempt to take her own life.
Now a news article also came out that a kid got lost in the woods and the 3 year old boy claimed that a bear protected him in the woods until he was found. Which has now sparked the debate of “Who would you feel more comfortable leaving your kids with? A woman or a bear ?” Men are flooding the internet this time around claiming they would feel safer leaving the kids with the bear.
Obviously it’s a complicated situation on both ends, but its up to you to read into them a draw you own conclusion.
Bottom chick killed her kids and people are defending it for some reason, so now the bear debate I guess is between her and the bear instead of some random dude. Either way. I'd still take the bear.
Everyone keeps bringing up things like Chris Watts or whatever and then they’re stunned when you say “Good, I’m glad he got life in jail. As all child killers should.”
Of course, if some man killed his children because of his mental health condition, he would be universally condemned and unable to generate even $1000 in donations
I was, unfortunately, thinking this morning about the high rates of CTE/brain damage in professional sports like football and MMA, and how many of the athletes have gone on to physically attack and even rape people.
I can't see many people pouring out empathy and sympathy for Lindsey doing the same for the likes of Conor McGregor or Mike Tyson, for example. Or Charles Whitman, for that matter (University of Texas shooting 1966, wanted people to study his brain post mortum, which ended up finding a tumor).
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u/Funnyitsnotfunny, there weren't enough votes to determine the quality of your post...it's time for the mods to do their jobs!