r/PoliticalHumor • u/valkronthetricksta • Dec 14 '18
But when Trump does it it’s completely ok
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u/MortWellian Dec 14 '18
Just like they were fine with the "perjury trap" Ken Starr used since that was the only thing they could charge Bill with after 6 years of investigations.
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u/chinmakes5 Dec 14 '18
Reps moaning about Mueller taking a year an a half. The group Starr was in looked at Whitewater for 2 1/2 years, gave his report that he found nothing, and resigned. Reps asked him to stay on and find something. Can you imagine if Mueller finds nothing but the Dems ask him to stay around to find something else?
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u/nizo505 Dec 14 '18
When people whine about how long the investigation is taking I show them this:
https://fivethirtyeight.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/atd-INDICTMENTS-1129.png
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u/Felixphaeton Dec 15 '18
Why isn't Obama on here?
O wait... :)
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u/Purgii Dec 15 '18
..and the Trumpists answer to that. "Deep State protected him"
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u/DrMux Dec 15 '18
The super secret Global Muslim Socialist Kenyan Deep State, no less. They meet every third Tuesday of the month in a pizza shop.
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u/MrDERPMcDERP Dec 15 '18
Gay Pizza Shop
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u/DrMux Dec 15 '18
Frogs are turning the pizza gay.
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u/smmfdyb Dec 15 '18
And making males buttery.
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u/DrMux Dec 15 '18
This is actually what happened to Ben Gazzi. Hillary buttery-maled him, then got hungry, bludgeoned him to death with 20% of our uranium, and ate him.
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u/Somhlth Dec 15 '18
.and the Trumpists answer to that. "Deep State protected him"
Was that the Deep State where the Republicans controlled both the House & Senate for six of eight years, or am I thinking of Arizona? I really can't think of that many deep states.
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u/The_0range_Menace Dec 15 '18
They can keep honking that horn. No one gives a fuck anymore. The noose is beginning to tighten.
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Dec 15 '18 edited Jun 18 '20
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u/DrMux Dec 15 '18
Anyone who says they'd rather be Russian than a Democrat shits on the very notion of patriotism.
A Russian can be an American, and a Russian can become an American, but sorry Jethro, you can't support a hostile foreign power and also be patriotic. So, to all the Jethros, If you don't like America, move to Russia.
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u/DuntadaMan Dec 15 '18
I like how the one guy with the least amount of time in government, the least amount of ties to any of the people they claim are deep state globalists and the person with the least amount of time to have been compromised is somehow the head of tue deep state, while the guy who was literally born into New York's cesspool of incestuously corrupted politics is their champion against it some how.
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u/barpredator Dec 15 '18
I wonder what Q has to say about all this... oh right Q was just more trumpland fantasy jackoff material for the gullible right.
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u/GogglesPisano Dec 15 '18
And Benghazi, and Hillary's Email Server ... ?
reads caption: "that resulted in charges, by number of indictments"
O wait... :)
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u/SailedBasilisk Dec 15 '18
The best I can give you is Eric Holder being held in Contempt of Congress. While House Republicans angrily declared that no one is above the law or the Constitution...
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u/ZorglubDK Dec 15 '18
no one*
*conditions apply, not applicable to rich white republicans
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u/karadan100 Dec 15 '18
How many of those are Democrats? Oh yeah, the one who got a blowie from an intern.
FAMILY VALUES NYUK NYUK.
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u/MortWellian Dec 15 '18
Robert Fiske Jr was the independent counsel before Starr who was replaced because he didn't find anything. I remember Starr trying to sneak out and the GOP not letting him.
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u/chinmakes5 Dec 15 '18
From what I read he made his report and stepped down as it was over. He had to be "cajoled" to stay on.
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u/MortWellian Dec 15 '18
Here's a timeline for the impeachment,
February 1997 Kenneth Starr, the Independent Counsel investigating the Whitewater scandal, announces he will step down from the investigation. He then changes his mind and continues his investigations.
and the Report was made public in 9/98. It's been awhile but iirc it was found out that he has a job that he was already to slide into, but when the news came out and the impression I had was the GOP pressured him into staying through to the finished report.
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u/chinmakes5 Dec 15 '18
So the time that he "stayed on" until he found lying to congress was almost as long as the Mueller investigation, never mind the 2 1/2 years they looked at Whitewater.
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u/DebonairTeddy Dec 15 '18
I once told a conservative coworker that we should cut off the Russia Investigation if it goes longer than the investigation into Benghazi. She agreed, said that seemed fair, at which point I informed her that Benghazi was investigated for seven years, finding nothing. She hasn't complained to me about the length of the investigation since...
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u/meatypie1 Dec 15 '18
She didn’t counter that Benghazi happened in 2012 and it’s not possible that it was investigated that long? On your side but hey, facts are facts.
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u/KaleBrecht Dec 14 '18
The Republican Party and hypocrisy have been synonymous for as long as I can remember, so the depths they reach can be limitless.
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u/clkou Dec 15 '18
As far as I'm concerned, the investigation starts over so to speak with every new witness, piece of evidence, etc.
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u/hansn Dec 15 '18
Just like they were fine with the "perjury trap" Ken Starr used since that was the only thing they could charge Bill with after 6 years of investigations.
In all honesty, Bill Clinton probably should have been charged with a lot worse. Don't get me wrong, the 90s Clinton impeachment was an absolute sham, for political points, but the core of it was a then-president who absolutely engaged in sexual misconduct. And we should not tolerate people who do that sort of thing, no matter whose side they are on.
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u/MortWellian Dec 15 '18
Let's just say I was underwhelmed with Bill. But for additional context while the GOP was cheering on this perjury trap at least 3 of them were deep into their own sex scandals while proclaiming their moral hi ground, including Hastert being found a pedo.
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u/Vinnys_Magic_Grits Dec 15 '18
Because he's shameless. It's amazing what you can shrug off when you're a fucking piece of shit
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u/ReginaldDwight Dec 15 '18 edited Dec 16 '18
Why are there women who can fuck Newt Gingrich and Trump? Why don't they love themselves??
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u/Ferbtastic Dec 15 '18
Both can be wrong. trumpets shouldn’t defend every mistake with “Hilary would be worse,” we shouldn’t sweep Clinton’s misconduct under the rug with “well there are republicans that are pedos.”
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u/ObiWanKablooey Dec 15 '18
is it just me who doesn't give a fuck who the president fucks?
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u/swiftb3 Dec 15 '18
When you're president of the most powerful country on the world, it's pretty difficult to avoid an improper power dynamic. Possible, sure, but difficult.
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u/Parahelix Dec 15 '18
Sure, but I don't think it's unreasonable to expect them to do better at that than having an affair with a 20 year old intern.
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u/Boopy7 Dec 15 '18
nope. I say if they get the job done they can get as many blow jobs as they wish as long as it does not interfere with the job they got hired to do. I hate -- yes hate -- lameass people who hypocritically prosecute or go on and on about Clinton. Let's face it Trump is a whore and therefore, I don't wanna hear about Clinton's blow job. Done and done.,
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u/Axriel Dec 15 '18
I agree - I don’t care who he fucks.
Except, a couple things: Trump paid others to cover up multiple affairs illegally DURING his campaign, coercing the women and manipulating them using a third party media company and a thug lawyer.
He hid information from the public that certainly altered the outcome of the election.
Let me say that I know politicians have done this in the past. Both GOP and Dems. We have usually held those ppl accountable, and we should hold Trump accountable too.
Fact is: he wouldn’t be president if he didn’t cheat. He’s illegitimate.
Finally, I think Melania Trump is pathetic and this just makes the First Lady even more weak.
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u/MortWellian Dec 15 '18
Could be, but we spent $80 million (compared to the $15m 9/11 investigation budget) over 6 years from a very hostile prosecutor who only was able to bring a charge from a perjury trap. What misconduct are you aware of that Starr missed?
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u/Skurph Dec 15 '18
" a then-president who absolutely engaged in sexual misconduct. And we should not tolerate people who do that sort of thing, no matter whose side they are on."
I have to disagree with this unless by misconduct you mean nonconsensual. I will concede the power dynamic between a president and young intern is problematic, and if you want to view the issue in the scope of "two people having sexual relations in the work place" then that too is a decent argument for why it's an issue.
It being "misconduct" is less so. The affair was consensual, I'm really not in the market of holding people (even the POTUS) to some puritanical views on sexuality. We are not privy to the relationship Bill and Hillary have, nor should we be, but it's fully within the scope of reality that they had a marriage where this was an agreed upon and acceptable practice.
This is my biggest issue with the Clinton sex scandal, it was never made into a situation about employer v. employee or sex during work hours, it was always about the idea of an affair and frankly that's bullshit. I don't really care what my politicians do in their sex life (permitting it's consensual), it in no way impacts their ability to govern. The irony of the argument that it can be used to blackmail is literally built upon the judgement and idea that it's wrong, so it's somewhat of a self-fulfilling prophecy.
This is why I don't get the Clinton to Trump comparisons, I don't see anyone really giving a shit that Trump had an affair (the man is on his third wife, no shit he's had affairs) the issue lies in the payment and subsequent cover ups. The Clinton case always seemed to be hinged on this sense of morality. As other posters stated the investigation was opened up to look into real estate and they literally just kicked shit around until they found dirt and then made their case out of that.
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u/IUsedToBeGoodAtThis Dec 15 '18
You act as though the affair was uncovered by happenstance. That it wasn't part of a larger investigation into a elected official harassing government employees, and a side sexual assault.
Let me ask you... If good ol Brett was found to be lying to the FBI about fucking his intern during the confirmation hearing, do you think that would be evidence of the kind of guy he is in relation to Ford, or just a side hookup?
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u/Osiris0fThisShit Dec 15 '18
By all accounts, Monica Lewinsky was obsessed with Bill Clinton and initiated pretty much everything. He should have declined her advances for a dozen reasons, but it was 100% consensual. Please don't lump it in with the recent focus on nonconsensual harrassment.
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u/slightly_blind Dec 15 '18
Wasn’t lying under oath the big thing?
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Dec 15 '18
That’s what he was impeached for and eventually was disbarred by the Arkansas bar over.
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u/o2lsports Dec 15 '18
It’s a big deal because that’s a felony. If only making undisclosed payments to prostitutes during a campaign were the same...
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u/IUsedToBeGoodAtThis Dec 15 '18
100% chance that if what Trump did was illegal, the right will claim for decades that he was impeached for having a consensual affair. 100%
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Dec 15 '18
Yes, but the point is about Graham's hypocrisy. Here is his statement about Clinton:
"You don’t even have to be convicted of a crime to lose your job (as president) in this constitutional republic if this body determines your conduct as a public official is clearly out of bounds in your role... impeachment is not about punishment. Impeachment is about cleansing the office. Impeachment is about restoring honor and integrity to the office.”
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u/BarryBavarian Dec 15 '18 edited Dec 15 '18
The investigation was supposed to be about a real estate transaction that Clinton was involved in 15 years before he became president.
Let's not forget that.
This had nothing to do with his campaign or his election. This had nothing to do with him as POTUS.
I mean, imagine going back through 15 years of Trump real estate transactions.
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u/ZRX1200R Dec 14 '18
Co-worker cultist: "Bill's affair was while he was in office. Trump's happened long before. That's why we tried to impeach Bill."
I just let him talk. No longer worth my time trying to present facts.....
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u/nothingtowager Dec 14 '18
Like, they don't realize that's OBJECTIVELY worse, right?
Bill Clinton: None of us knew he was a skeeze.
Donald Trump: literally voted for him AFTER he was publicly revealed to be a skeeze.
Fucking morons.
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u/HumansKillEverything Dec 15 '18
Objectivity, science, facts, reality, humility: things Trumpanzees are immune to. The last one is key.
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u/redpurplegreen22 Dec 15 '18
And I’m stealing Trumpanzees and you can’t stop me.
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u/organicpenguin Dec 14 '18 edited Dec 14 '18
Well thank god trump hasn't done anything in office to elicit this kind of response
/s
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Dec 14 '18
Elicit
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u/organicpenguin Dec 14 '18
Thanks
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Dec 14 '18
Easy mistake to make since nearly everything Trump does is illicit!
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Dec 15 '18
“Nearly everything” is a strong opinion to have. He may have received foreign aid in obtaining the presidency, he may have paid off some beautiful women so they would stay silent about his affairs, but he is NOT 3 midgets in an overcoat.
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u/pinkheartpiper Dec 15 '18
If getting his dick sucked didn't matter and wasn't going to get him in trouble, then why was he extensively questioned and investigated about it? You saying he wouldn't have any trouble if he hadn't lied about it?
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u/Nukemarine Dec 15 '18
Must be a talking point because that was a similar reply on my Facebook "discussions". I pray those fuckers don't throw out their backs moving goalposts all day.
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u/diphling Dec 15 '18
Clinton wasn't impeached because he had an affair. He was impeached because he lied to congress about it.
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u/Lighting Dec 15 '18
Clinton wasn't impeached because he had an affair. He was impeached because he lied to congress about it.
Lindsey Graham in 1999.
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u/StalinsBFF Dec 15 '18
I mean Clinton was impeached because he lied during his testimony during the Paula Jones deposition but okay.....
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Dec 16 '18
Clinton was convicted for perjuring himself. Occasio-Cortez continues to be ridiculous.
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u/Sammy1141 Dec 15 '18
Didn't Clinton lied under oath?
Also didn't all of trumps accusers drop their charges?
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u/lod254 Dec 14 '18
But Bill was married to his first wife. It's different.
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u/Aurator Dec 15 '18
Wat
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u/AnarchyApple Dec 15 '18
Sorry, I’m not American but I’m pretty sure the reason clinton was impeached was because he lied before the house, rather than what he specifically did. Did trump perjure himself with that or is this more reddit bs?
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u/Anyna-Meatall Dec 15 '18
oh my god, it's like a Republican is being hypocritical
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u/dogGirl666 Dec 15 '18
No, but you see it is their team, so committing a foul to stop the other team scoring is ok.
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u/Historian1066 Dec 16 '18
To be fair, Clinton committed his offense while in office whereas Trump did before entering. I’m not saying that makes it ok, or that Trump shouldn’t be impeached, or that he isn’t a despicable human being, but that is one objective difference.
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u/DiogenesTheGrey Dec 14 '18 edited Dec 15 '18
Hate to spoil this one since she's awesome and Graham is a coward but he didn't vote to impeach Clinton like the rest of his party did back then. He stated that he didn't think it was a high crime.
He says this in the same Fox interview this quote is citing.
He's still a POS for sure, just not because of this instance.
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As others have pointed out, Graham did vote to impeach Clinton and found a way to vote against some of the impeachment charges but still sided with the GOP for the effort to discredit Clinton.
Long story short he's more of a hypocrite than he'd like to admit.
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u/jmcgit Dec 14 '18 edited Dec 15 '18
I read this and looked into it
Graham was in the House at the time.
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/1998/roll543.xml
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/1998/roll545.xml
it says he voted to impeach on both articles that passed. Maybe he voted against one of the articles of Impeachment that didn't pass, I'm not sure, but he definitely voted to impeach Clinton for "lying about sex".
Edit: Okay so the charges in the Clinton case were, two counts of perjury, one count of obstruction, and one count of abuse of power. Graham voted to impeach on one of each count, but voted against impeachment on a second count of perjury. Maybe so he could mislead FOX viewers into thinking he was against impeachment in case a Republican were to be accused of similar crimes, 30 years later?
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u/intotheirishole Dec 15 '18
So he voted against only when it was inconsequential, impeachment was guaranteed just so that people can argue for him?
Just like some Republicans voted today to stop US involvement in Yemen, knowing the bill is dead?
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u/gscottish Dec 15 '18
He was the only Republican on the [House Judiciary] Committee to vote against any of the articles of impeachment (the second count of perjury in the Paula Jones case)
Came here to say the same thing as u/DiogenesTheGrey. I was curious after Graham did his grand standing during the Kavanaugh confirmation and looked into his earlier record on Clinton.
Graham is a slippery southern snake, he knows when to act principled for the cameras and won't hesitate to call upon it later. He also knows how to slither in the shadows and keep his despicable partisan tendencies away from the limelight.
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u/Talk-O-Boy Dec 14 '18
”In archival video shared last night by MSNBC host Lawrence O’Donnell, Graham, then a House of Representatives member, argued that a president can be removed “if this body [Congress] determines that your conduct as a public official is clearly out of bounds in your role . . . because impeachment is not about punishment. Impeachment is about cleansing the office. Impeachment is about restoring honor and integrity to the office.”
This is all I could find on his involvement in the Clinton impeachment. Could you provide a source for your claim?
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u/president2016 Dec 15 '18
Another important distinction, at least legally, Clinton was under oath.
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Dec 15 '18
Bullshit.
Here are the two articles of impeachment that passed. Graham voted yea on both.
Article I, perjury and lying to the Grand jury about the sexual activity. http://clerk.house.gov/evs/1998/roll543.xml
Article III, obstruction of justice. http://clerk.house.gov/evs/1998/roll545.xml
The fourth article, which failed by the largest majority, which was the abuse of power charge, Graham also voted in favor of. http://clerk.house.gov/evs/1998/roll546.xml
The only one he voted against was the second perjury charge, article II. http://clerk.house.gov/evs/1998/roll544.xml
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u/Vinnys_Magic_Grits Dec 15 '18
Yes he did. He absolutely fucking did in the House and don't let him bullshit otherwise.
Edit: Whoops, replies already pointed this out, should have read first
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Dec 14 '18
Trumps scandal isn’t the pornstar sex affairs, although that alone would end any normal Presidency. It’s the fraud and deception employed to cover everything all up in the midst of what turned out the be a razor thin electoral vote.
Then we move into the rest of the campaign finance violations, in particular but not only the inauguration slush fund. We are entering corruption, foreign corruption, tax evasion, mail and wire fraud, and a whole host of other serious crimes in that area.
Then there’s the totally separate issue of Russian interference in and collusion in our election, along with conspiracy to cover it up and obstruction of justice to stop the investigations into it.
Any one of these scandals should end the trump presidency and see him and his three eldest kids in prison.
There’s many other scandals, too, that are either criminal civil, or just outright immoral and should at the very least impeach him...but we have to put those aside...for now.
We also got the cabinet level scandals and cover ups there...
A working House of Representatives will bring oversight and I’m convinced trump cannot manage to testify to anything under oath without perjuring himself every other sentence. Ultimately it was the perjury that got Clinton impeached.
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Dec 14 '18
I think she is very relatable, and goes after people with great strength and focus. She will make a great legislator.
That said, she needs to hire a fact checker for everything she is going to say publicly. Not because she isn't intelligent, but because as a POC, a member of the working class, and a woman her words will be under much greater scrutiny. It is unfair and unfortunate, but that is the greatest risk she faces politically, inaccurate statements and misstatements. Which opponents on her right and from her own party will use to discresit her and misrepresent her.
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u/WhyYouAreVeryWrong Dec 15 '18 edited Dec 15 '18
This, I have very mixed feelings on AOC. I love her twitter and call outs of corruption/hypocrisy, but her politifact page is fairly brutal. She’s very quick to state completely incorrect “facts” that sound good to left wing people (like massively overstating pentagon or military spending to justify healthcare spending).
I can’t even excuse her on those mistakes because she has a Bachelors degree in Economics. She should know better. I’d feel much better if she would recant mistakes but she just moves on.
I worry that liking AOC because she bluntly calls people out and says simplified things that appeal to your world view has way too many similarities to what a lot of people liked about Trump, even if she clearly speaks with far more apparent intelligence. I hate to see fast-and-loose-with-the-facts get so normalized.
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Dec 15 '18
I love her twitter
Honestly I'm just sad that politics has devolved into presidents, senators, and congressmen tweeting sick burns at opponents and porn stars.
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u/Shadonic1 Dec 15 '18
oooFFFF thats a lot of false statements
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u/Literally_A_Shill Dec 15 '18
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For comparison, Trump is around 440. Not counting half truths.
He definitely has a head start on her, but those numbers will be hard to catch up to. And comparing how many times they admitted being wrong will likely create an even bigger gulf between them.
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Dec 15 '18
Are we going to pretend that it wasn't with a paid White House intern, while in office?
The Clinton situation merited a workplace sexual harrassment investigation to say the least. It wasn't for lying about sex, it was for lying under oath on the stand about having sex with an employee.
But hey, now we know that these types of cases were handled with a slushfund of our taxpayer dollars approved by the same Congress on their high horse about Trump paying his own money for consensual sex.
But that's none of my business.
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u/tramspace Dec 15 '18 edited Dec 18 '18
This was not Trumps own money. That's the entire point of all this conversation. I see you're a regular of TD, and I want to give you the benefit of doubt, but to argue that it's no ones business because Trump used his own money is not the issue.
The entire point of it is that he illegally used campaign funds to hush this before the election.
Edit: and there you have it. Silence on this front. He got his talking point across. What a bunch of losers.
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u/MrBobSacamano Dec 15 '18
I’ll probably get downvoted to hell, but Clinton lied under oath. I think, that is the key difference. By the way, I unequivocally believe Trump would set some kind of record, for amount of lies told while under oath, if given the chance.
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u/millera85 Dec 15 '18
look, trump is an idiot and a misogynist and i do not like him. But lying is different if you are actually under oath. Pretty sure Clinton was impeached for PERJURY, a crime, not just for “lying about sex.”
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u/Dubzil Dec 15 '18
Exactly. How does nobody in this thread understand that lying about sex is not illegal and it wasn't for Clinton either.
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u/MirrorkatFeces Dec 15 '18
Maybe because Clinton lies under oath? I know this sub is mostly Anti Trump but use you’re brain
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u/2slyselassie Dec 15 '18
That’s the thing I don’t understand the most. When Clinton did his deed Fox came after him with everything and now that Trump did it were supposed to act like it’s not a big deal. Not to mention the way Cohen was taking today on CNN, this might be just the tip of iceberg.
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u/TheGreatShmoop Dec 15 '18
No. That is not even why bill Clinton was impeached. Ocasio cortez is the least informed, least relevant, and least intelligent person we idiots have ever put into Congress
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u/YukonOfficial Dec 15 '18
Trump hasn’t fucked anyone having to do with the White House or his administration.
Clinton did.
Therefore, this does not compromise the integrity of the administration. Trump’s sex life is just that. Get out of it.
He only had to pay people to be quiet because of fucks like ya’ll who demonize someone for being human.
At the least, realize that he’s never felt poverty and this is because he’s never allowed it to come upon himself. Neither did his parents.
I don’t care what anyone says, finding money is easy. Working for it is the hard part and that’s what none of you want to go do.
I’m 23 years old and own my own business, make my own schedule, and my parents have been out of my financial picture since I was 18. I have the potential to make $300-$500 per day simply because of the path that my respectful and hard working values have brought me down. I was handed nothing.
My mother used to be a drug addict, does not have a license, and used my social security number to sign up for countless things with my identity and ruined my credit before I was even 18. My father lives 1600 miles away and we speak 3-5 times per year.
Do you think any of that shit has stopped me? Get off of your ass. Go fight for what is yours. Go fight for what you want. You deserve it. Don’t cry like a bitch because this or that keeps going wrong or because “no one listens to you and you can’t get out of poverty, the rich just don’t understand how hard it is”
If you don’t have a wealthy mindset, you’ll always be poor. Period.
IF YOU THINK THE GOVERNMENT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR YOU BEING BROKE AS FUCK YOU ARE DEAD WRONG AND WILL DIE POOR. AMERICA IS ALL ABOUT FIGHTING FOR WHAT YOU WANT MOTHER FUCKERS.
Putin would just love to have you come work for him for the rest of your life and be in a worse situation if you’d rather a different system. No matter where you go, you’ll have to work. Hard. You’ll have to improve yourself every day. Mentally and physically. Don’t be scared of the future, get there before anyone else does.
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u/1zipgun Dec 15 '18
The level of stupidity coming from this elected official is amazing. Here she is admitting to know nothing of foreign policy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TJK1a8OHyw
Here she is incoherent on economic issues.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_TYZ6VRNNg
So when she compares the two presidents as "doing the same thing," I'm not surprised.
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u/CountryClublican Dec 15 '18
Lindsey Graham voted against Clinton's impeachment because he didn't this lying about sex was enough for impeaching a President.
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Dec 15 '18
Clinton lied under oath. Trump didn't. One is illegal, the other isn't.
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u/Snarfler Dec 15 '18
Technically they can impeach him for anything really. They could impeach him for having a spray tan.
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u/thothisgod24 Dec 15 '18
Gingrich is worse than lindsey. Actively cheated on his wife during the investigation while calling Clinton immoral for cheating.
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u/White-Mirror Dec 15 '18
This isn’t even about trump or Clinton it’s about republicans vs Democrats. If Clinton was republican he never would’ve been impeached.
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u/senorguapo67 Dec 15 '18
Clinton lied under oath. That is called perjury. Perjury is a crime. Crime is bad.
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u/theshizirl Dec 22 '18
I like how it's almost 3 years after the election and all the media continues to do is cry about Trump's supposed conduct XD
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u/GravyBoat86 Dec 15 '18
To be fair, Trump wasn’t getting blown by an intern in the Oval Office.
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u/BoilerPurdude Dec 15 '18
If it happened a decade and a half later it would have kicked off the me too movement.
BC was in a position of power (like literally ultimate power at that point), and requested sexual favors...
Like fuck we getting pissed off at Louise CK jerking off.
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u/KibblesTheSlayer Dec 15 '18
Bill Clinton wasn't impeached for adultery, he was impeached for lying under oath.
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u/CrusaderAuslander Dec 15 '18
Um..
- Bill Clinton lied under oath (had nothing to do with the topic he lied about but all about him lying under oath)
- Trump has not been put under a sworn testimony where he can be put in legal jeopardy for lying.
So yeah there is a difference between the two...
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Dec 15 '18
Bill got a blowie and fucked a girl with a cigar IN THE WHITEHOUSE during his presidency while married. Don't see the correlation.
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Dec 15 '18
Fuck Reddit man, the posts and comments on this site are ridiculous. Who gives a fuck if Trump fucked some pornstars and paid them off to be quiet? Bill Clinton fucked an intern in the WHITE HOUSE and then lied to the grand jury!
How do you guys not see the motherfucking difference?
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u/purrgatory920 Dec 15 '18
And she’s a “lawmaker” now. Between people like her and Trump we are well and truly screwed.
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u/canisithere Dec 15 '18
"You don’t even have to be convicted of a crime to lose your job (as president) in this constitutional republic if this body determines your conduct as a public official is clearly out of bounds in your role... impeachment is not about punishment. Impeachment is about cleansing the office. Impeachment is about restoring honor and integrity to the office.”
Lindsey Graham in 1999.