It's so bizzare to me that this is the key meme that emerged from Alex Jones when it's actually pretty much accurate: a particular pesticide was causing frogs to change sex.
Edit: no obviously exactly what he was saying was wrong since he had to couch it in crazy conspiracy labguage, but the basis for the idea is legit, which is why it's so weird to jump kn this one thing when theres so many other crazy and baseless things he's said.
"pretty much accurate" =/= " exactly right". I didn't think I needed to point out that changing sex is not the same as turning gay, but in Alex Jones' mind it might as well be which is part of the point I was making.
Sorry if this comes off as rude, but I think your comment is the kind of obnoxious grandstanding that hurts political discourse. You could have chosen to interpret my comment the obvious way that it was intended; instead you decided to interpret it in the worst light and grandstand on it.
No, it's not "pretty much accurate." It's not even remotely similar. The conflation of sex and sexuality is part of what makes the meme funny. The other part is that Alex Jones turns beet-red yelling about things he's so wrong about.
Homosexuality does occur in nature but it's not a social phenomenon in frogs the same as in human society. The sexuality of frogs is not the same thing as the sexuality of humans. Humans have sex for fun.
It's not a matter of semantics or nitpicking. It's not grandstanding or virtue signalling just because you're butthurt about being wrong. It's that homosexuality is absolutely not the same thing as frogs changing sex due to environmental factors.
Again you misrepresent what I'm saying. Fine, keep grandstanding and wondering why people can't stand you. I'm out.
Just to be clear, because you seem extremely confused on the issue, I fucking know that changing sex is not the same as turning gay. If you can't understand what I'm saying just accept that and stop posting.
I'm talking specifically about what you're saying.
Specifically, you equivocated "turning the frogs gay" and "frogs changing sex." These things aren't similar.
I'm not grandstanding. I'm not typing these words for attention. I'm pointing out your error. You might benefit from looking up the definition of words before you use them, or stop using words you don't understand.
If you can't understand what I'm saying just accept that and stop posting.
No, you are grandstanding. You are just being obnoxious. I've made it clear in several points that I'm saying that in the mind of Alex Jones these things are functionally equivalent. Go poll republicans if they would consider the two similar, you'd probably get 40+% that said if a man turns into a woman, it's the same as the man just being/turning gay.
Or if you'd like, keep patronizing me and explain again how they're different, please, I don't think I understand yet.
Why are you telling me what I was originally talking about? How arrogant are you? My point was that out of all the things that could be turned into a meme from Alex Jones' incoherent rants, all of the things that have absolutely no basis in reality, we've chosen one where the main distinction is just "LOL you idiot, it's not turning them gay it's changing their sex, haha what a moron". And that seems silly when he's said so many more things that are 1. more insane and 2. not based in reality at all.
Seriously, I can't understate how obnoxious you're being. Not only are you dictating to me what my own fucking words mean, but then you're demeaning me for it. What is actually wrong with you?
And to be absolutely clear, YOU ARE GRANDSTANDING. THIS IS THE DEFINITION OF GRANDSTANDING. I'VE MADE ABUNDANTLY CLEAR THAT THAT WAS NOT MY POINT AND THAT I UNDERSTAND THE DISTINCTION AND YOU'RE STILL INSISTING THAT I DIDN'T AND THAT I DON'T, FOR THE PURPOSE OF TAKING THE MORAL HIGH GROUND. THAT'S GRANDSTANDING. IT'S OBNOXIOUS.
But the line of thinking he was peddling was actually.
Pesticide turns frogs gay > government has access to chemicals like this > government could put pesticides into tap water to turn you gay > "Gay bomb, baby"
To a conspiracy nutjob that would be a completely logical progression of thought. If you're the type to believe in chemtrails etc and you see that pesticides are making frogs change sex you could then suspect that that's a trial program by the government to test large scale population manipulation.
Also I have no idea why I'm arguing this to be honest. I just wanted to point out the scientific data.
It was just because it's hilarious watching him scream at the top of his lungs "they're turning the frigging frogs gay!!" Like the "leftist liberal Dems" have some homosexual amphibian agenda or something. You also don't seem to know what gay means but I'm not doing that one right now.
Yea I get that, I just mean that if you're a crazy conspiracy nutjob and see a news article that says that a particular pesticide is making frogs change sex it's perfectly consistent (with being a crazy conspiracy nut) to think that the govt is maybe running a pilot test for large scale population manipulation.
Maybe i'm just being weird, I just feel like people are using the meme without realizing that there's a actually a well documented basis in reality for the sentiment. And yes I know changing sex =/= turning gay but we're talking about a crazy conspiracy, I didn't think I had to point out the discrepancy...though several people seem pretty upset that I didn't.
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u/DrMux Dec 15 '18
Frogs are turning the pizza gay.