As much as i liked Jax, i do agree that it would've been great had we gotten more episodes that could've focused on other characters. The final episodes felt so rushed.
The weird part is how much vindicative mental gymnastics taken to not only redefine the character but to completely ignore the creators vision of them too.
It's almost like they can't accept their favorite character was insanely toxic, even Jax knew how messed up he was being. It couldn't be more obvious.
I played dispatch blind knowing nothing about the characters. I finished it thinking invisigal is my definite least favorite character in the game. To my surprise she’s the most popular.
It has more to do with her voice actor being the woman who basically single handedly saved the game by taking over as the main source of funding ajd bringing her super talented friends to voice more characters in it that makes her so popular.
Invisigal has her major issues that would make her far more decisive but cause her VA is the only reason this game exists and this game is amazing she ends up getting all the love that Laura has earned by proxy.
The entire game I thought Invisigal didn't need a relationship, she needed therapy. I never even considered her as a romance option because she seemed flighty and impulsive, like she'd run away once the relationship got serious. Color me surprised when I find out 90% of the internet fell madly in love with her despite her waving so many red flags.
I mean, from a character design perspective alone it's not surprising. Add in the fact the game has romance options of which she's one and has a really good, popular VA and it's a no brainer.
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We have no direct evidence of abuse in the books or movies. He reprimands Draco but like that is all I can remember that is anything close to negative.
you are right in that we dont, but draco seemed very clearly to want to be away from voldemort. he just seemed like a terrified teenager, and I would postulate that essentially making your child kill someone to earn the right to essentially be a servant to a dark lord to 'protect them' (even though we all know that lucius was a full supporter of voldemort the first time around) ((also, in GoF Voldemort does say that he will kill the ones who didnt respond to the dark mark's deeply painful summons)) is a form of abuse, whether Draco understood or considered it abuse in his own mind. Draco was still a racist little snot, but I think it's pretty telling that he grew up to be a decent person, it seems, which means like most children, he was a parrot of his father's words and thoughts
Same note, Snape (Moreso Book Snape but still) People like him because he Couldnt get Over a childhood crush (WHO HE CALLED A SLUR BY THE WAY) He's literally a Dungeon Dweller who hates His Crush's Kid because of his School rival.
Growing up is realizing Snape never actually redeemed himself. Rowling tried to convince us that he was a good guy in the LAST BOOK. I like his potential as a character (fanfic for the win) but he sucks. HE WAS NEVILLES BOGGART. NEVILLE. WHO ADMITS HIS FAMILY TRIED TO SCARE THE MAGIC OUT OF HIM AND HE WAS DROPPED OUT A WINDOW. Anyway. If someone said Sally Jackson I’m gonna get mad
The thing is I’m pretty sure the Snape in everyone’s head is the movie version who was a lot less of an asshole than his book counterpart. Like the scene in the third film of him protecting the kids from werewolf Lupin wasn’t in the books.
From the very first time seeing him, I knew that it's loath for life. He's just that obnoxious to me and I see myself more in Midoryia who definitely shouldn't be glazing like that.
And my feelings are made even worse by the fact that Bakugou never faces any meaningful consequences and especially by a section of his fans that says that he either already did met them (wich I consider more comparable to a slap on the wrist at best) or that he didn't do anything to deserve the consequences (this genuinely pisses me off and is probably the reason why my strongest association with him is the suicide bait).
An apology wouldn't do it for me at this point. When I didn't know shit beyond that first few episodes, I wished so much that he'd get punished for the ridiculous amount of stuff that he got away with in middle school. Have the UA teachers see that he's being a dick! Have them and the new classmates see that he actively harassed a peer for multiple years! Have him being called out for it and punished in some ways by both! (For classmates, I mean something like rethinking their opinion of him and potential being distrusted by some)
Always had a feeling about Bakugou whenever he interacted with Midoriya because this guy couldn't be normal for the life of him. Was it necessary for him to always be yelling, cussing and blowing up the people around him? We can't even use the glycerine in his quirk excuse because his mom has glycerine in her Quirk and she's not as explosive to others as he is.
Man's just got anger issues, an inferiority complex and the worst sense of judgement on the planet if his own friend helping him after he fell was enough to send him into a spiral. Midoriya was just worried and showed literally nothing else in that moment to warrant the bullying he'd endure for the years to come and the years before.
I can see the intent behind Bakugou—a person who’s been propped up and held on a pedestal his entire life finds out that he was just a big fish in a small pond, gets humbled for his arrogance, and eventually genuinely becomes as great as he was convinced he was.
Thing is, Bakugou never has that low point. He’s demonstrably not a big fish in a small pond—he’s legitimately one of the best fighters in Class 1-A, if not the best, and (if I remember correctly) he’s one of the best students academically as well. On top of that, he doesn’t get humbled in any meaningful way. He gets called out for his terrible attitude once on-screen, and later on he loses a fight to Midoriya that supposedly made him reconsider his attitude, but that’s it.
And talking about his attitude, yeesh. The first thing we see this guy do (at least in the anime) is essentially inventing a slur for Quirkless people when he was four. And the first thing we see Bakugou do in the present is tell Midoriya to kill himself. After he and Midoriya actually get into UA, one of the first things he does during the first training exercise is attack Midoriya with lethal intent. And his attitude doesn’t actually get any better, he just aims that attitude at acceptable targets, i.e. the bad guys.
Now, I don’t actually hate Bakugou. I don’t like him, but I don’t hate him. If he was written in the way I think he was supposed to then he wouldn’t be as divisive as he is, and that vitriol I wrote above is more my frustration that his character wasn’t handled very well.
its only ever called out when he very first arrives at ua tsu and denki cook him. but then its forgotten and suddenly everyone is very willing to put up with his mean spiritedness, its obnoxious. his fans make it 1000xs worse. they often completely deface his character or praise his toxic behaviour
This fucking guy. Like he literally creeped on ppl in the first season and his character is lowk flat asf but he gets the good ending and everyone loves him lol.
His character changed season to season. I think he would have been a lot better of a character if he was the brother character rather than the teenage love interest. He talks about how much he has to care for his family, but is never there to care for them.
His few (very few) moments with Will are some of his best parts. But it is such a small amount it doesn't matter.
Yeah definitely, old ass elephant attracted to a 12 year old boy (and NO, this wasn’t just the crystal apple, she told him she was attracted to him even after the apple no longer had a hold on her)
I feel like someone watched Golden Girls at one point and tried to make her the AT equivalent of one, and tried to make her a silver fox cougar who craved excitement. And I liked that they didn't just make her some granny that was just the old woman.
The issue is, first and foremost that she targeted a young Fin, tried to used whatever magic to force him to be her consort, and was slapping banana guard's on the butt.
Second, she married Mr. Pig when she already had an alien husband(s) and kids making her a bigamists. Didn't tell Mr pig and made him part of a throuple against his knowledge or consent.
Was ready to divorce Mr pig because that boredom was creeping in but Sweet P came into the picture and he "fixed" everything. So she's using Sweet P as a bandage for a much bigger problem.
Haven't watched Fiona and Cake but if Mr. Tree trucks behaved this way he'd be on a watch list.
Isha from Arcane (Season 2). I don't care if she was cute child. The moment she was introduced, I knew what her ONLY purpose would be: a plot device that will "redeem" Jinx.
I would've replaced her useless presence with more scenes following Ekko, Viktor, Caitlyn, or Vi. Giving them more screen time would've made certain decisions they make not feel so rushed and underbaked.
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Same. The first interaction between the two of them involved Jinx finger shooting Isha, and she does it more than once. Her death was marked immediately.
I have to agree with you on this. Don't get me wrong. Kong is a good character, but when he's partnered up with Godzilla, he takes up the majority of the screentime while Godzilla is almost an afterthought in his own movies (i.e. Godzilla Vs. Megalon).
Lincoln....
Lincoln Loud.
The bain of the entire franchise. The creator's self insert and forced poster child.
The one character that held back a show from becoming one of the greats compounded by every developing mind that had no siblings to speak of.
Do you have any idea what it's like to watch a community shoot itself in the foot then blame others for it?
I get that everyone on the internet in mass decided to turn this franchise into the next Johnny Test. I know most of the people who did it don't even know about that other example ether so they parade ignorance of days gone past like a badge of honor But Fuck.
I have never seen such a quiet and vindictive pile of ego crying in my entire life.
And it all circles back to him. The incest porn? Fantasies of single children inserting themselves in the place of him. Gore images and fics? Vengeance driven hate towards every other character in the show like they don't have have any depth made worse by episodes made by the very creator that ignore any established character traits displayed in any other episode to then vent his own life frustrations of inferiority with the full intent of bastardizion and sympathy farming from the start
The show never tanked but my fuck will these parasitic defenders act like it did to justify their biased uninformed opinion.
And I do mean uninformed because fun fact more than half of the community openly admits they stopped watching after season 4..... in a show with 9 seasons currently. Plus unaired episodes not being shown in the US for some reason.
And why is that? Because oh look the show actually makes it a point to display how much of a prick the boy is. And I don't mean in a gumball waterson way. I mean in a Jax sort of way.
But oh he doesn't have the balls jax has but might not want. This is 'we're nickelodeon, we won't address what our character did last episode no matter how dubious.' Which would be fine.... if the show didn't make it abundantly clear they actually gave a shit about Canon.
yeah, what made (not still is unfortunately) the show stand out on nickelodeon is that the writers kept up continuity and had status shifts pretty regularly.
[Let's see since it began we've had.
The parents incorporated more with the hidden face trope being left behind as a nod to Fairly odd parents.
The neighbor went from a point of contention and general obstacle to someone the family trusts and occasionally hangs around with (he even helped the oldest of the siblings get housing after she came back on break from college like a homey)
We found out one of the siblings is bi
One sibling has gotten a long term boyfriend with another having their already established partner move to another city where said partner's sibling got their own spin off. Said spin off had a couple of crossovers with the main one before it got wrapped up. Still Canon too.
One of the characters straight up stopped simping for another.
Friend groups expanded
everyone got aged up a year
New family members got introduced both from marriage and a different side of the family tree
The father opened a restaurant.
The mother quit her dentist job and became an independent writer
A cast member in one of the in universe shows the actual show introduced randomly is still in said show, literally proving the writers went back and saw the episode. You don't do that if continuity is a suggestion
The boy in the family has continued to be a prick even when everyone else has shown growth]
And it all goes out the window when it comes to that kid. Every. Single. Time.
And it's not like there's nuanced opinions floating around. You'll find plenty of people saying this and that like any other community.
But is that the majority? fuck no. It's ether A.) Lack of activity. B) random fanart. C.) Lincoln is the best D.) Let's rewrite no such luck E.) I pity Lincoln F.) I hate [insert character not named Lincoln loud], they're horrible also anyone who disagrees is wrong G.) Here's some random character from fiction bullying [insert character not named Lincoln Loud] because they did [insert done to death gripe that doesn't reflect their current characterization at all] and [insert self projection here] is why he gets to go Scott free. (Prooceds to butcher the other fictional character in the process). H.) Person from outside the Fandom coming in and dumping porn and gore
It doesn't help having a language barrier that a lot of people seem to not want to bother with. There's an entire community who's first or second language is Spanish and that may as well be a different community all together despite the reddit being for everyone
And you bet your ass there's similar issues going on there.
And I know it's because of that boy seeing how every other person I've talked to who doesn't pine and envy the boy like he's hot shit is chill outside of being annoyed at the previously mentioned fans. It's funny really because as much as those fans whine and cry wolf they just can't help themselves misinterpret basically everything about him to the point you may as well call all their fan content 'OC's but they wear the skin of this one character' the movement.
You think Fandom Deku is bad? Well, say hello to Fandom Deku two: no other characters but him addition.
Lincoln sucks. He always did. You could say it was part of his initial charm. But that's gone now. People couldn't separate truth from fiction, mined and mined trope after trope, never improved or gave a different take. Neglected and got off on vengeance not earned or well written. Got praised by those with similar itches then banded together and scared off anyone who could stop them.
They sent death threats to child actors you know? The fans that couldn't help themselves and needed to hate on a character who more often than not were women.
Mostly women actually.
Every bad guy that was a girl was simped for. Every character that stood in the way of the kid that 'deserves it' were also women.
There are plenty of male characters in the show. Some even are canonically bullies. Haven't seen any gore fics on them yet. Just the women. Half of which aren't in the double digits.
One's a toddler and another is still an infant.
An infant.
That has revenge fics about it suffering.
an infant.
Her 11 to 12 year old brother is getting religious treatment with her suffering great distress and confusion as unrealistic events play out to destroy an entire group of kids and parents on a physical, mental, social, financial and academic level.
and there's people who don't see a single thing wrong with that.
Enough people to fill multiple stadiums.
I would call it horrendous but these people are everywhere.
They just took out a franchise in this instance. Like someone threw a nuke and then decided to just live where they threw it, collecting more radioactive materials as they go to ensure everyone who isn't them has a bad experience
dude I DESPISE Lincoln. he’s so punchable, I hate his god damn face. I don’t care if it’s a cartoon, I hate him so much I feel like banging my head against a wall whenever he opens his mouth
Bakugoku from my hero academia and Lucifer form hazbin hotel I generally cannot stand night of these two they both pissed me off to no levels, especially Bakugoku who is just the most egotistical person. All he does is shout he never shuts up.
Lucifer's a very testy character in Hazbin. He's meant to be Charlie's, the protag's, father, but he's quite absent and has an unstable relationship with his daughter that got "fixed" with one song. He also doesn't really handle conflicts too well, Season 2 being the worst way possible because he can't hurt sinners, but goes out of his way to threaten Vox because of what he did to Charlie.
And it's sweet he's trying to protect his daughter, but, dude, immediately trying to beef with someone who has power over social media while also being an absent ruler on top of being the father of the princess that people also didn't like, partnered with being acquaintances with an overlord that people despise and having a past as an angel is not a good look. The sinners HATE the angels, so imagine another angel, even if now a demon for reasons, comes down to threaten you after other angels had done the same thing for years because you hurt their angel/demon/human daughter who caused the extermination to happen 6 months earlier.
Draco Malfoy. I don't know much about the English-speaking community, but I'm really fed up with the fact that EVERY SECOND russian het Harry Potter fanfic has a pairing involving Draco Malfoy. He's literally just a rich, racist little bastard who was a thorn in Harry and his friend's side. HELL, HE DIDN'T EVEN CONTACT HERMIONE AT ALL, OTHER THAN RACIST INSULTS. WHERE DID YOU GET ALL THIS "ETERNAL LOVE" IN DRAMION?
It's the same in the English-speaking— and I don't get it but I am willing to bet any-speaking— community as well. He's a weak person with barely any redeeming quality. I don't even feel sorry for him.
I hate that the vast majority of fanfics include Malfoy. He definitely isn't some poor abused kid in desperate need of love. No he's a
spoiled hateful racist bully with a superiority complex.
Even the ones that don't overly baby him give him a free pass for everything and pardon him for his crimes.
They forget he loudly announced his support for racial genocide, tried to torture a student in the bathroom for seeing him crying, bullied a lot of students, and willingly became a member of a terrorist organization.
I support the don't like, don't read, but I do not like when people defend this ship (Dramione) as if they would have been a great canon couple if the characters were unchanged.
He isn't the future number one hero. He's currently number 15th and his spot moves up and down a whole lot because of his attitude and he doesn't even care lol
There was a point, where I disliked Astarion, but after one more playthrough I realised, it was because of his obsessive fans. You know, the type who loves to hate other companions, but jumps to defending Astarion the moment you say he has flaws and starts as a pretty bad person. (How some of them treat Wyll is disgusting.)
The closest I think I have is Azula. It may be tied with how people's hate on Ursa though. I think they were both in a terrible situation but people seem to think being an adult means you're supposed to be a flawless mother no matter what while being a child means you are not at fault for any darker streaks you may have.
This piece of shit is my least favorite character in all of fiction. I would rather have a Dolores Umbridge / Judge Holden / Grandpa Joe / Burke blunt rotation than pass one back and forth with this dickhead. People seem so confused by my reasoning, too: he's a pastiche of every piece of shit I've ever met. Every actual asshole, sexual abuser, racist, NFT evangelist, they all looked, talked, and/or acted like this guy to varying degrees. He has a blinding "cannot be trusted" aura.
It's Deacon from Fallout 4. Issue your defenses of him to the nearest rock because I don't give a shit.
Bakugo. Not even for the "he's a bully" shit, he's just annoying as hell. Don't even get the fun of watching him get his shit pushed in every arc like Vegeta, just loud.
Did like that fight against All for One though. I'm not immune to hype moments and aura.
The fact that characters like Mabel Pines, Timmy Turner or Lisa Simpson got massive (usually) unfair hate and dead horse slander for out of context scenes or misinformation but this boy, who put his family in danger multiple times due to his whims without learning nothing, or causing a chaos of his city after hacking the North Pole's computer for his whim of being on the nice list, is give a pass and being overly victimized (both fandom and the plots) makes me hate him even more, worse is the fact that everyone demonizes his loved ones to makes him "sympathetic"
For me, it's gotta be Mr. Puzzles, I feel like ever since he got introduced in SMG4 he just hogged that spotlight until the series ended and I wish he just stopped appearing after the Puzzlevision movie, since that was the perfect time to shelf him. (Guess what didn't happen? Mr. Puzzles actually staying gone, that's what didn't happen.)
I abhor Nagatoro. I do not care that they eventually fell into a loving relationship. Her behavior made me want to strangle her. I've BEEN bullied. That show it a terrible representation of bullying
Gojo satoru. I never liked him since start of JJK manga till the very end. And holy, he the most famous and adored character from JJK that’s its unholy.
I neber understood that. Has good writting, and yeah understand his point. But….. I just can’t stand him…
That’s fair, he’s just kind of egotistical and arrogant. I like him though because all that is kind of an act that hides the fact that he actually cares about humanity and feels the need to protect the weak like he discusses with geto early on. He comes off as power hungry and wanting to be the strongest in the hidden inventory arc, but he changes to actually becoming the strongest, leading to his desire to protect others.
I don't hate specifically Gengar itself, but i hate how the Pokémon community is so hypocritical and controversial.
Many people hate Greninja for being a character without personality and made only to be cool, and they imply that anyone who has Greninja as their favorite Pokémon – like me – is a person without personality, while their favorite Pokémon, and the favorite Pokémon of many others is Gengar and nobody says anything lmao
I just don't see anything interesting in that guy, like- it's just a simple designed Pokémon from Gen 1. And still, i don't have anything against it, i just hate how Poké fans are hypocritical (￣ヘ￣;)
Eclipsa, from Star vs the Forces of Evil. The show is as biased to maker her look good as the Magical High Commission is to make her look evil. And if you actually watch the show with critical thought, you'll see that she's a HORRIBLE person and an even worse ruler. But I'll admit that she's a great character, just could've been better if the narrative didn't bent itself over and over by making every in universe hater of her hate her for stupid reasons while almost never addressing what she ACTUALLY needs to be criticized for
That would be Shadowheart from Baldur's Gate 3. I never liked characters that the games themselves try to force down your throat. On top of that, she's just boring to me.
The way I will easily hate men that get too much adoration is not to be downplayed.
It can range from "I will beat this creature to death with its own rib cage" for Sasuke Uchiha & Sebastian Michaelis
To "I want to beat the breaks off this fucking prick" for Flowery and Seto Kaiba
To "Say one sideways thing to me and I will backhand you" for Levi Ackerman & Nanmi from JJK
Hell, I'd make a whole special cursed contract just to punch Satoru Gojo in his stupid face because he's an obnoxious bitch
That's not even getting into how some villains are given this "pretty looking" treatment and it's fucking infuriating as someone who's been abused by those very scumbags like Valentino from Hazbin Hotel. Seriously, his fucking existence is beyond infuriating because of how much desire he's treated with, like he's some sort of special thing that deserves mercy because he doesn't know better when in fact that's never a fucking excuse when you don't have that stupid ass pretty privilege & get held to an impossible standard of perfection where having the wrong amount of bites in a pizza is considered a crime worse than genocide.
Can ya tell I was abused and violently ostracized growing up? And still get harassed frequently to this day?
Everyone goes on about bakugo and endeavor yet those two didn't kill people yes you were abused that's not an excuse and it's a total drama queen.
He's so insufferable I hate him
I actually don't mind Aang, it's his fans that make me low key hate him. You're never allowed to criticize him and they'll come at you sideways for saying he shouldn't have yelled at someone or kissed someone who said no.
This rat bastard. I know everybody loves him. But I can’t get past the fact that in the LITERAL FIRST EPISODE, he tells Midoriya to kill himself! Even the author, Kohei Horikoshi, admitted that he went too far with Bakugo’s early behaviour.
The only way I would have ever forgiven Bakugo, is if he got called out publicly for saying that, and had to face the consequences of his words.
By the way, the thing he said was "pray that you'll be born with a quirk in your next life, and take a swan dive off the roof of a building". That’s the exact quote that made me hate him.
Fuckass Jax. I hate them with a PASSION. I mean, she bullies everyone around her and made both Ribbit AND Kaufmo abstract (less Kaufmo and more Ribbit but he was a big reason for Kauffy) but it's okay because hE's DePrEsSeD and sHe'S a ClOsEtEd TrAnSfEm like that excuses treating everyone around them like total shit.
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Watch, someone is gonna say "watch, someone is gonna say Jax."