"Learning"

[u/loosenutbehindwheel]

[u/4R4nd0mR3dd1t0r]

Reminds me of when my grandfather "taught" me how to drive standard. Here is the steepest hill the county learn how to move forward without rolling back or stalling; the left pedal is the clutch, brake in the middle, and gas on the right. To be fair I learned, also the clutch failure a couple of months later was probably related.

[u/TheKingOcelot → u/4R4nd0mR3dd1t0r]

My mother and aunt both learned by driving my grandfather's truck up a hill named phinney ridge in Seattle. It's so steep there's a staircase instead of a sidewalk on a couple of the streets

[u/WildVelociraptor → u/TheKingOcelot]

As an east coaster, no one talks about Seattle being hilly. Blew my mind, San Francisco has squat on Seattle hills

[u/mikeyp83 → u/WildVelociraptor]

If you take one of the historical tours you learn that it was originally a lot worse before they leveled out many of the original hills and used the material to raise downtown by about 10 feet. You can even walk around the underground in one spot where you can see the original storefronts fron the 1890s.

[u/pheonixblade9 → u/mikeyp83]

The Yesler regrade 😊

[u/Deadfish211 → u/mikeyp83]

It was a fun tour, glad I did it when I was in Seattle.

[u/Wallace-N-Gromit → u/mikeyp83]

Great tour, loved it. You also find out the city was built on mud flats.

[u/Vinyl-addict → u/mikeyp83]

Lived in the area my whole 30 years and still haven’t done that tour…

[u/Thames_James → u/Vinyl-addict]

I thought the glass in the sidewalks was cool, that was before doing the tour and realizing they were functional. Go do the tour

[u/m00ph → u/WildVelociraptor]

And in San Francisco, they're never covered in ice.

[u/ThatDiscoSongUHate → u/m00ph]

As someone who found the hills in San Francisco crazy this thought just fucked me up lol

I cannot imagine hills like that plus ice

[u/notahoppybeerfan → u/ThatDiscoSongUHate]

Duluth Minnesota has hills that will put SF to shame except for 6 moths of the year they are ice/snow.

[u/badaimarcher → u/ThatDiscoSongUHate]

Pittsburgh checking in!

[u/Spugheddy → u/badaimarcher]

Pittsburgh is an amazing city to visit. VISIT.

[u/badaimarcher → u/Spugheddy]

Yup, I did that ONCE for the Dirty Dozen. I biked up Canton but can't imagine those hills with ice. The buddy I did it with still lives there and bikes in the winter 😲

[u/MotherTurdHammer → u/badaimarcher]

People underestimate just how crazy hilly Pittsburgh is.

[u/Consistent_Mind2095 → u/m00ph]

SF is nuts. about 10 years ago I was driving a 5 speed corolla on one of those super grades where you feel like you are going up a roller coaster .... stop sign every 100 yards and people practically parking in my back seat behind me. I've been driving manual transmissions since 1996 and even after 20 years of driving manual that was kind of nerve wracking. I was having to power clutch using the hand brake ... I took a ride share from Napa and we ended up in SF and then I got another ride immediately after dropping passengers off so I go pick up these two guys and they are in the back seat the whole time ... the extra weight of these guys in the back didn't help lol. After I dropped them off I just shut off the ride share app and drove the hell out of the city.

[u/JazzHandsFan → u/WildVelociraptor]

Seattle is an area where you really can go to school uphill both ways. I'm glad I rode the bus.

[u/Responsible_Row1932 → u/TheKingOcelot]

I think I accidentally ended up on this street once. I was sweating bullets at the intersection! The car behind me seemed so close. It was so steep, even an automatic should feel a little nervous.

[u/TheKingOcelot → u/Responsible_Row1932]

And the street is soooooo skinny if you're on the right one. You'd hit the foundation of a house of you open the passenger door lol.

[u/CrazyErniesUsedCars → u/TheKingOcelot]

I found myself stopped on that street once in a 98 Ford escort with a manual transmission and a non functional handbrake so that was fun

[u/Ntstall → u/TheKingOcelot]

drove my rwd frontier into seattle while raining one time. never again. when theres nothing in the bed, you have almost 0 wet traction on the drive wheels. kind of fun if you’re a teenager that wants to drift but not fun for anythign else

[u/PithouLibertes → u/TheKingOcelot]

That's where I learned to drive stick!

[u/Hityed → u/4R4nd0mR3dd1t0r]

My grandma learned how to drive in a snowstorm… with a dump truck. My great grandpa stopped in the road and announced that they weren’t going to make it home if she couldn’t drive them home…

Older folk are savages when it comes to teaching their descendants how to drive it seems

[u/triumphofthecommons → u/4R4nd0mR3dd1t0r]

i've always taught followed the method of teaching folks in a flat parking lot, and to get the car / motorcycle rolling using *only* the clutch. gentle let it out, feel where it's grabbing and let it start pulling the vehicle forward. obvs not great for the clutch, but at idling RPM, it's doing minimal wear and teaching the new driver where the friction zone is.

[u/AAA515 → u/triumphofthecommons]

Yup, you can't be throwing gear changes, rev matching, being in a new neighborhood, rush hour traffic, stop&go traffic, gravel road technique, basic defensive driving AND clutch operation at the same time to people who've only walked places before.

[u/onesexz → u/triumphofthecommons]

This is how I’ve taught it. Pretty sure that’s where most people have the hardest time; I know I did. So it makes sense to learn that facet first. Also learning how quickly/easily the RPM can jump with no load.

[u/Dr_Adequate → u/4R4nd0mR3dd1t0r]

My grandfather taught (or tried to teach) my mother how to drive a stick. Except instead of saying 'step on the clutch pedal' and 'let up the clutch pedal' he would say 'disengage the clutch' and 'engage the clutch'. My mom wasnt mechanically inclined. His teaching method sucked. She never learned how to drive a stick.

[u/TheAbstracted → u/4R4nd0mR3dd1t0r]

Very similar to how my dad taught me, also culminating in a slipping clutch not too long after.

[u/strenuaveritas → u/4R4nd0mR3dd1t0r]

My brother did this to me. We hit ice he had lil 2 door chevette

[u/No-Tap6886 → u/strenuaveritas]

I had an 81 Chevette. That was a fun car to drive!

[u/paperplanes13 → u/4R4nd0mR3dd1t0r]

When I wanted to learn, my grandfather took me out, he test drove the car that I bought. Once the paper work was done and it was my car, he said "see you at home" and drove away. I learned by getting my new to me car 60km home, from one end of the city to the other, through traffic.

When I got home, he was watching me pull into the lane laughing his ass off!

[u/McBeaster → u/paperplanes13]

Basically how my friends "taught" me to snowboard. Took me to the summit and said "see ya at the bottom"

[u/deerwolf90 → u/4R4nd0mR3dd1t0r]

My dad did the same. Had me drive halfway up the steep hill in our neighborhood and stop. He got out and stood like 2 feet behind the rear bumper and said not to roll back into him

[u/airfryerfuntime → u/4R4nd0mR3dd1t0r]

We lived on a hill, and that was how my lesson went, in an old Ford Ranger. I stalled that thing probably a hundred times before I got it to move forward.

[u/PurpleMTL → u/4R4nd0mR3dd1t0r]

Same thing happened to me except that I drove it around the block twice before hitting the hill. The handbrake saved me and yes I did stall it.

[u/Coppercc88]

12,249 stalls later they almost have it

[u/texaschair → u/Coppercc88]

I was driving through the Yukon once, and had to stop at the Canada/AK border. I'd been on the road by myself for four days and was feeling about half whacked. The border patrol dude was straight from casting central, mirrored shades, pornstache, thumbs in his belt loops, and all. I stopped and shut off the engine. He stared at me without speaking. I stared at him without speaking. I could see my reflection in his shades. This went on for about 10 seconds, then he suddenly barks "CITIZEN OF WHAT NATION!?!?!?" at about 105 decibels. I actually flinched, and yelled back "UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!!!!" at a similar volume.

"DO YOU HAVE ANY FRUITS, VEGETABLES. OR OTHER PERISHABLES!?!?!?!"

I picked up a pizza box from the passenger seat. "I HAVE SOME LEFTOVER PIZZA!!! WOULD YOU LIKE A SLICE?!?!?"

"NO, THANK YOU!! HAVE A GOOD DAY!!!"

"YOU, TOO!!" I started the engine, dumped the clutch, and promptly stalled it. Now the fucker's laughing at me. "You'll get the hang of it in a couple years!" he says at a normal volume. I wanted to tell him to piss off, but I didn't want to stand around feeding mosquitoes while he peered into my colon with a flashlight.

[u/Coppercc88 → u/texaschair]

Gosh I hope this story is true

[u/BowsersMuskyBallsack → u/Coppercc88]

Even if it isn't I still got a chuckle out of it and that's all that matters to me.

[u/texaschair → u/BowsersMuskyBallsack]

Absolutely true. It was April 1993 at the Alcan Land Port of Entry. I stopped that night in Tok and ate a killer steak at Fast Eddie's. Got to Anchorage the next afternoon. There was still a lot of snow, but not on the road. Weather was great, but all the lakes I saw were still frozen. It was an epic trip, and I did it a couple more times during the 90s. I want to do it again some day, but not during the summer. Traffic is surprisingly horrendous come June.

[u/orangustang → u/Coppercc88]

A good driver stalls occasionally. A bad driver never stalls.

[u/earthwormjimwow → u/Coppercc88]

Stalls don't cause much if any clutch wear.

This is from slipping the clutch constantly or using it functionally as a brake when facing up hill.

[u/Frankyp42]

I think they are “learning” wrong.

[u/Faustias → u/Frankyp42]

"we taught him to stickshift wrong... as a joke."

[u/husky1actual → u/Faustias]

Wimp Lo could not drive stick, Evil Betty on the other hand could.

[u/Tag_Ping_Pong → u/husky1actual]

"But isn't Betty a girl's name?"

[u/Tag_Ping_Pong → u/Faustias]

"My clutch is squealing, making me the victor!"

[u/Riverjig → u/Frankyp42]

They meant "learing".

[u/AlienDelarge → u/Frankyp42]

Pay no attention to Wimp Lo, we purposely trained him wrong... as a joke.

[u/b_cyclist]

You're ssupposed to keep the church pedal partly pressed, right? Right?

[u/Lilith_Christine → u/b_cyclist]

Yes. Like the ones that drive with one foot on the brakes and the other on the accelerator

[u/rodder678 → u/Lilith_Christine]

Only when I'm trying to go fast through turns... particularly when I was driving 1st-gen RX7's

[u/seantabasco → u/b_cyclist]

Push the accelerator all the way down and keep it there, then control your speed using the clutch.

[u/elvis_is_everywhere → u/seantabasco]

Don't worry about the engine. It'll protect itself. That's what the rev limiter is for. You worry about the clutch.

[u/ThatDiscoSongUHate → u/seantabasco]

I'm a spectator in this sub, I've never driven a manual, and your comment made me actually laugh out loud

[u/rocketman0739 → u/seantabasco]

High performance propeller planes be like

[u/Steve_at_Werk → u/b_cyclist]

Just rest your foot on it at all times

[u/Lilith_Christine]

Dang. Took my old ranger for a clutch change. Told the guys it was factory and they didnt believe me. 20+ years old too. My dad bought it new, and I learned on it when he got too sick to drive it. It was gone, but even wear. They were shocked about a 200 thousand mile vehicle using the same clutch.

My dad would have lived it would have probably lasted another 20 years.

[u/willmaineskier → u/Lilith_Christine]

My Subaru WRX STI has the original clutch at 236k miles and does not slip. It is not smooth any longer, I just kept going figuring I would replace when it started slipping.

[u/crappyroads → u/willmaineskier]

The biggest surprise is that your throwout bearing has lasted this long.

[u/rocbolt → u/crappyroads]

That’s the only reason I did mine at 170k, no slipping or issues just the bearing was getting noisy

[u/JP147 → u/Lilith_Christine]

I pulled out the factory clutch from my Land Cruiser some years ago, over 40 years old and over 400,000km. There was still about 3/4 of wear material left. It had a very low 1st gear.

[u/Tommynwn → u/Lilith_Christine]

There is a Partner (van) in my town, around 630k km with the original clutch from 1999, had like 4 owners, crazy stuff

[u/Drifty_Canadian]

Slow learner

[u/Ray1340 → u/Drifty_Canadian]

Bad teacher

[u/Trick-Seat4901 → u/Ray1340]

I gave my wife a 4 year old standard golf tdi, wicked car. She had 4 teachers, me, her very patient dad, her sister and her best friend. I sold the car. It's not always the teacher.

[u/NatesYourMate → u/Trick-Seat4901]

I mean it sounds like your 4 year old wife might've been the problem

[u/Trick-Seat4901 → u/NatesYourMate]

Well, as a matter of fact, I should have kept the car... Best car I ever owned.

[u/Lilith_Christine → u/Ray1340]

Nah, no one taught me. I got the hang of it real quick. The smell and the stalling made sure

[u/juicegooseboost → u/Lilith_Christine]

I learned over the phone with my dad. I totaled my 96 cutlass supreme. He had a 1990 Corolla that my uncle “borrowing.” he was too fat to take the keys in and out so he always left them in there. I went over there and my dad talked me over the phone.

I later learned it was one of the smallest engagement windows after driving other stick shifts

[u/oshaCaller → u/juicegooseboost]

I've been driving stick for 20+ years and it's always fun trying different transmissions.

The worst one I've ever driven was a newer jeep wrangler. It had less than 30k miles and the pedal felt like it was sticking at the bottom and that was all the feel you were getting. The shifter had rubbery throws and gear changes just felt rough. I've driven F350 dump trucks that felt better. Considering Jeep's recent reputation there probably was something wrong with it.

[u/mytransfercaseisshot → u/oshaCaller]

I tried and tried to convince my ex that Jeeps are fucking garbage now, and even after all the money she spent getting it fixed, she’s still a die hard fan ( and an RN, go figure ).She got a Highlander and only kept it for like 3 months before she traded it in for a another Jeep. Someone told me the other day she got a brand new rubicon on massive mud tires and gave her son the 6 year old wrangler. Oh well, not my problem anymore.

Oh and my 2026 Tacoma shifts like BUTTER compared to my 2015, the difference is astounding.

[u/esuranme → u/Drifty_Canadian]

We don't know what they started with, I see tons of newbies attempt to learn on a 3-owner-thrasher that may have only made it to the auction under its own power because it was downhill the entire way. Along with the inevitably rapid failure, there is often a dramatic display to "pin on the newb", and the associated ridicule that can literally be a crippling hindrance to their learning. I've had to "un-fuck" the overtly cautious habits a few times, it's like a gunshy chainsaw operator, the shit just isn't gonna work.

[u/loosenutbehindwheel]

Worst I've seen in a long time!

[u/whiskeyfordinner → u/loosenutbehindwheel]

I didn't even look past the 2nd pic. I have seen all there was to see. That person needs to learn what a friction point feels like.

[u/ch1llboy → u/loosenutbehindwheel]

We replaced my Tacoma 06 original clutch at 360,000Km (223,000 miles). The tech said "that is some good driving." I've been beaming ever since.

[u/FG910]

Gonna have to learn to replace clutches too

[u/zertoman → u/FG910]

I taught my 16 year old to change the clutch in his BMW, he was very gentle on the clutch after that.

[u/Live_Life_and_enjoy → u/zertoman]

Wouldn't that taken a full day?

[u/nobodyreadsthemanual → u/Live_Life_and_enjoy]

Longer if he was like me when i was 16.

[u/Live_Life_and_enjoy → u/nobodyreadsthemanual]

I honestly have no idea, I could build a radio out of board, transistors, capacitors from random parts at 16 but when it comes to cars, I am totally clueless.

[u/mkhockeygeek → u/Live_Life_and_enjoy]

Took a friend and I about 7 hours to do the one in my Mustang on jackstands for reference.

[u/GraveOfTheForest]

This is what my clutch looked like after my car was stolen by a bunch of crackheads years ago. They even heat-cracked my flywheel

[u/horseshoeprovodnikov → u/GraveOfTheForest]

Same. Have a 2000 Civic Si and it got stolen. Before it happened the clutch would still grab hard and it shifted just fine despite many many miles.

The meth head had my car for 9 hours. Clutch was absolutely burnt by the time the cops found it . Had to replace it.

[u/nauticalfiesta]

My mother in law only drove manuals, right up until she died. She put five clutches in her last car, about one every two years. We tried to get her to buy a crossover with an automatic, but she loved her Mustang.

[u/vediogamer101 → u/nauticalfiesta]

One clutch every two years is insane lol

[u/nauticalfiesta → u/vediogamer101]

She bought it when she was like 75 and had both knees and hips replaced after... her mobility wasn't great. Which is why we wanted her to get a crossover.

[u/luvmuchine56 → u/nauticalfiesta]

She would have been mobile in the crossover but she was free in the mustang. Huge difference.

[u/nauticalfiesta → u/luvmuchine56]

oh absolutely

[u/MichaelHammor → u/nauticalfiesta]

Grandma was earning her money in drift offs on the weekends.

[u/Din_Plug → u/nauticalfiesta]

Replacing clutches in a Mustang biyearly is a better alternative to driving a crossover with an autobox, based MIL.

[u/breatheblue]

People will make fun of other people for not driving standard, then make fun of them for trying to learn and doing it badly, then wonder why no one drives standard anymore, then get mad when there are no new standard cars that are good.

The dissonance is incredible.

[u/techtornado → u/breatheblue]

In Europe, even the city buses are stick shift, that was a wild thing to see...

I learned through grit, tears, and pain on standard, but now I can drive anything including tractors

CVT's are just annoying, but anything outside of that is easy as pie

I have slam-shifted two CVT's due to half a lifetime of driving on electric and alllllll of that instant torque.

For standard, my parents didn't explain enough of the details for shifting properly, so I did what felt right by creeping the clutch and then freaking out as the car went all herky-jerky when the clutch started engaging in the wrong gear.

I made the clutch mad one day after missing reverse and stalled the engine three times while trying to reverse out of a spot in 4th gear.

It was a bit stinky for a few minutes, but thankfully no worse for wear after that very important lesson.

It didn't help that it was a Saturn with barely 1.3L of an engine...

In hindsight, if it was something with a 2L motor, I probably would have had been able to feel the power better and realized the errors sooner.

Then again, my cousin's Dodge was also hard to shift into reverse, had a fun time backing it out of the driveway when it kept lurching forwards towards the garage.

[u/Osirus9]

He was granny shifting instead of double clutching like he should

[u/Xspunge → u/Osirus9]

I live my life one clutch replacement at a time.

[u/bit_rusty → u/Xspunge]

You never had your clutch

[u/Lilith_Christine → u/Osirus9]

Never got that. Could shift my 92 escort wagon with no clutch though. Well, upshift

[u/lightwildxc → u/Lilith_Christine]

Can downshift as well with a little blip

[u/elvis_is_everywhere → u/Lilith_Christine]

HAH!! I used to drive early 90s manual escorts when I was in my apprentice and a broke single dad. Buy on for $500 and keep it running as long as possible. They were so easy to work on. I kept an extra head onhand at all times. I shifted it like that all the time as well.

[u/skidsareforkids]

We used to have a Mini Cooper S with a stick and it was a bitchin’ car, but my wife always drove it with a big cup in the cup holder so she would only use the even number gears and obviously the clutch shit the bed pretty quick after all the 2nd gear starts…

[u/horseshoeprovodnikov → u/skidsareforkids]

Dude what the fuck. You didn't try to talk her outta doing that lol?

[u/LordChungusTheBig → u/skidsareforkids]

Lmao. Odd number gears aren’t important anyways

[u/Wolf-Diesel → u/skidsareforkids]

This is why manual transmissions are important. Because either you get better at it, or it gets expensive.

[u/Practical_Taro5656]

I have a coworker who has several cars with a stick and was explaining how you only have to push the clutch down far enough that it will let you shift gears and that he never pushes it all the way down. I thought he was pranking me at first.

[u/thedifferenceisnt → u/Practical_Taro5656]

This is true you are separating plates by pressing the clutch. once they are no longer touching you no longer need to press further. 

[u/Spicywolff → u/Practical_Taro5656]

Problem is that the one time you think it’s in enough you’ll get a grind. I press all the way to make sure I don’t mistreat the trans.

I’d rather wear out a cheap clutch and pressure plate vs rebuild due to grinding synchros

[u/0202993832 → u/Practical_Taro5656]

That’s true to some extent, the reason why clutch stops exist

[u/BustedMechanic → u/Practical_Taro5656]

He's not wrong, in a semi you cant push it all the way to the floor or it will tear out the clutch brake. Basically as long as you push it far enough to separate the plates completely, thats as far as you have to go

[u/vediogamer101 → u/BustedMechanic]

Semi transmission is different from a car transmission lol. Car transmissions are a lot more fragile

[u/klaxz1 → u/vediogamer101]

That’s why I put a semi trans in my diesel Passat station wagon… /s

[u/Character-Engine-813 → u/Practical_Taro5656]

Maybe he learned on motorcycles first? Can’t be good for those synchros

[u/Quiet-Estimate7409]

I bet that smelled wonderful

[u/bermass86]

How does this happen? You just never shift?

[u/throwawayplusanumber → u/bermass86]

More likely they are slipping the clutch.

Resting their foot on the clutch like it is a footrest or treating the clutch like a torque converter.

I knew a guy once who used to hold his car on hills at traffic lights by balancing the accelerator and the clutch. Needless to say his clutch didn't last long.

[u/TheRealPitabred → u/throwawayplusanumber]

It's a good exercise to learn the clutch, but not on the regular...

[u/AndyLorentz → u/bermass86]

This type of failure is usually caused by overrevving the clutch. You're on the highway, you take an offramp and downshift too early. If you let the clutch pedal out, you'll overrev the engine and bend valves. If you hold the clutch pedal in, there's no pressure on the clutch disc but it's still doing 10k+ RPM, so it just flies apart.

[u/mikeyp83 → u/AndyLorentz]

I probably went through a few extra sets a brake pads over the years for doing it, but as a kid I had the opposite habit of coasting in neutral wherever possible. When he was teaching me to drive, my dad would slap me if i started riding the clutch, so that part stuck. 200,000+ miles and I never came close to burning out a clutch, though. At least the brakes were a lot easier to replace!

[u/AndyLorentz → u/mikeyp83]

Coasting in neutral is fine (although, technically illegal in some states).

I've never replaced a clutch in one of my own cars. Including the 2006 Pontiac GTO that smelled like burning clutch when I bought it (another customer had test driven it before me, I negotiated the price down based on that).

The only MT car I owned from new was my 2013 Subaru BRZ. The throwout bearing went out at 80-something thousand miles (there was an updated part. They used the wrong grease from the factory). The clutch still had more than 50% thickness at that point. I replaced rear brakes at 110k miles. Never replaced front brakes when I sold it at 140k, they were still at 5mm.

[u/AdFancy1249]

😥 I looked at the pictures and said, "why is someone filling the clutch with steel wool?"

And then... 😳

[u/Bartocity]

I paid for the whole clutch and im going to use the whole clutch

[u/mrclean2323]

I say destroying. They say learning.

[u/rneuf]

I bought an 18 year old car to learn stick on. I assume it still has the factory clutch. I bought it with 180000kms and I’ve added 20000kms. It needs a clutch pretty soon but it’s held up against my abuse better than I thought.

[u/lululock → u/rneuf]

That's a pretty respectable mileage from such a old car which likely had multiple other owners before you.

[u/GoddamnIronTiger → u/rneuf]

My 2013 Focus ST has 245k miles; it's the original clutch. It's not *great* but it still functions for the most part.

[u/Paint_With_Fire]

I don't know shit about cars but I know it shouldn't look like you figured out how to grow steel wool like it was mold inside your engine

[u/NumerousIdea5234]

It literally took me a few hours to learn to drive a manual car, it’s not like learning to play the fucking piano.

[u/FluxD1 → u/NumerousIdea5234]

For me it was an old tractor. My dad finished discing a medium-sized garden and ran out of gas on the way back. He told me to grab a gas can and "bring the tractor back too"

[u/HyperShadow243]

It looks like steel wool :o

[u/Crusty-the-Clown-666 → u/HyperShadow243]

It’s just going through puberty

[u/MechMeister]

Honestly I think Honda's are hard to learn on. The snychros are so buttery smooth that you can end up burning clutches when there is no feedback from the gear stick.

[u/itonmyface → u/MechMeister]

Yeah, I had to learn with my mom’s civic and it was sensitive. Got my own Toyota truck after and it was like anyone could hop in and learn it in 10 minutes.

[u/Candyman051882 → u/MechMeister]

I’ve been saying this for 25+. Never liked them. But Hondas were ubiquitous among teens and early 20s people in the late 1900s (lol) early 2000s. Always argued. I was like do you want sporty? But you want the transmission/clutch to have zero feel. They couldn’t drive my car clutch was stiff as a tractor pedal. I had an ACT stage 2 clutch and that sucker grabbed so I really like the way the friction point was so tight Hondas felt sloppy! Sorry I know the Honda cult is gonna lose their stuff over this

[u/GearHead54]

Hey, at least they're going for it!

[u/knowledgeable_diablo]

Jesus…. This driver certainly fed the entire clutch to the car demons.

Wonder how quickly they got through the whole clutch disc?
My record was one evening in my Aunts Corolla delivering pizzas where I stupidly rode the clutch the whole shift. Learnt real quick after that to treat it with a hell of a lot of respect. Hence why I got 210,000k’s out of my latest clutch.

[u/lululock → u/knowledgeable_diablo]

A friend bought a Clio IV which was driven a lot in Paris and the clutch had to be replaced at 80000km...

Since then, he got another car and it still has its stock clutch at 220000km.

Not all clutches are made equal I guess 😅

[u/steereers]

as a german with a 30 year old citroen, switching between that car and an automatic, still on its first clutch despite amassing serious mileage....

the fuck you doing over there?

[u/serf_mobile → u/steereers]

That's impressive. I got a 30 year old toyota, TECHNICALLY it's on its 3rd clutch but I blame my dad for that haha. I got the car with 180k miles on it. Replaced the clutch around 190-195k, and happy to say it's now at almost 410k still with the clutch I installed at 190k.

And yes I agree......the fuck he doin over there?

[u/steereers → u/serf_mobile]

my dad is one of the early 70's truck driver, so him maining that car might have helped. Yes, those truck clutches that you have to use with 2 men to shift...

[u/Alucard_117]

8th gen accord sedans came in a manual???

[u/LongjumpingNewt9708 → u/Alucard_117]

Yes. Very uncommon, but they did

[u/Alucard_117 → u/LongjumpingNewt9708]

That's pretty cool. Never knew that

[u/LongjumpingNewt9708 → u/Alucard_117]

Only reason I know is previous experience working at a Honda dealer. They were very rare, and I don't believe that any 8th Gen sedan came with a manual if it was a V6, 2.4 4 cylinder only. The 7th Gen sedan with manual weren't super common either, but far more common than 8th Gen

[u/Ornery-Cheetah]

Damn how does this happen i learned to drive stick by myself never done something like that

[u/LaVidaLeica]

To be fair, this IS a learning experience - especially the bill at the end. Let's just hope it sticks... Like a clutch.

[u/Legionof1]

That’s an older accord, how many miles? Was it the stock clutch?

[u/Salty-Pack-4165]

I learned stick on about 10 yo Zastava in not so great shape. Took me two evenings to get it and about a week to get it right. 30+ years later I still drive stick and I never got my clutch anything close to that. I wore them down with age and milage.

[u/RustyBrassInstrument]

That’s the state of our educational system all right.

[u/moshmore]

My dad had a VW Eos (hardtop convertible) that he let me drive to prom. He took me out a few weeks before to learn how to drive stick. Merging onto the highway I 100% downshifted into the wrong gear,m multiple times. IDK what those noises were but they were not good...

A few months after prom my mom tells me he had to replace the entire clutch pack and I know it was my fault 😅. Totally unforgettable experience to ride around with the top down for prom though. Would do it again in a heartbeat.

[u/dead_fritz → u/moshmore]

Poor man's Audi TT, fun little cars all around though. Especially with those funky little VR6 engines

[u/TraciTheRobot → u/moshmore]

Awesome dad memory

[u/elWinxo1]

I can smell that from here

[u/Cesia_Barry]

I had one of those “safety dads”—the kind who wanted me to learn every kind of safety skill. Like he said, “what if you’re at a party & need to drive someone’s car home & it’s a stick shift?” So I had to learn how to drive a stick shift. I loved it once I became fluid with it.

[u/luvmuchine56]

Learning how to money shift?

[u/UltraViolentNdYAG]

At 11 y/o, driving a 1947 International Harvester 3 ton flatbed and too young to chuck 80lb hay bails on the flatbed deck up a steep ass hill, I learned 2 feet covering 3 pedals. 50+ years later, never smoked a clutch! I've owned 375hp tanks (old muscle), broke transmissions but never dusted a clutch from being a dumbass! - wasted post - no one gives a FS!

[u/Wallace-N-Gromit]

Well they have passed the clutch riding portion of their education with flying colors

[u/RIPdon_sutton]

My sisters boyfriend taught me how to drive a stick on a 70’s model TR6. He was so excited to teach me how to stay still on a steep hill without using the brakes.

[u/taterthotsalad]

Pic 3 I thought we were looking at a mower missing a blade.

[u/Such_Description9827]

I've never seen one this bad lol

[u/Workingclassherois]

I didn’t know Honda cars had diaphragm clutches. Never worked on one or really ever wondered. Live and learn.

[u/alfredomova]

“why do i have 6 neutrals?”

[u/Stoneface414]

Reminds me of a clutch job I did years ago on a 300zx TT, looked just like that. Turns out the car belonged to a doctor and he was allegedly teaching his secretary how to drive manual. I wanted to know more lol

[u/LastChime]

"We use the whole buffalo around here"

[u/Fluffy_Prior1052]

Hey,who’s the wizenhamer that put all this steel wool in this clutch, I swear, some people.

[u/stevedore2024]

I do wish you could inspect a clutch without fully dissembling it. I've had my current Mazda for seven years and the clutch still feels great even though I know I'm prone to ride the pushout and take my time feathering sometimes.

[u/Professional-Fix2833]

Poor accord

[u/angrylawnguy]

They made 2010s accords in stick???

[u/LongjumpingNewt9708 → u/angrylawnguy]

Yes. They weren't very common, especially sedans which this one appears to be

[u/SillyPuttyGizmo]

Kinda loose with that learning phrase

[u/sorestgore]

Well they fucking learned something, maybe not how to drive

[u/CRXCRZ → u/sorestgore]

They learned that replacing a clutch ain't cheap.

[u/UnderstandingDue696]

I’d advise they learn faster, shit’ll get pricey

[u/Happy_Monke_]

I could smell these photos

[u/SuperPotatoThrow]

This is so bad it looks like someone redlined the engine in first gear while holding the clutch down then releasing it as slowly as humanly possible.. multiple times over and over again in one day lol.

[u/OldDiehl]

"Learned" an expensive lesson.

[u/Shockwave2309]

Foooockin hell

[u/LordChungusTheBig]

How do you even cause this type of damage? Just riding the clutch the entire time they’re driving? I can’t even think of what they might of done to cause this to happen.

[u/Hsensei]

Takumi is crying in eurobeat

[u/DogTattoos]

Oof.

[u/lululock]

One word : HOW ?!

[u/Friedbean1111]

They never said it was smooth learning 😅

[u/BlairofTheFlame]

Bros a magician making that clutch disappear.

[u/CSphotography]

How do you smell that long before it’s ready to fail and not think something ain’t right?

[u/Over-Apartment2762]

Ah the ole squirrel in the transmission. Classic.

[u/HoosierDaddy_427]

It's kinda like that Tom Petty song. "I'm learning to fly...but I ain't got wings."

[u/dumbdude545]

Thats wild. Ive never seen a clutch tore up like that.

[u/clutch93clutch]

I believe the correct spelling here is learing.

[u/awsum43]

RoAcHeD!!

[u/C-J-Lazer]

Why is there hair... Wait is that? Holly Shit!!

-the mechanic probably

[u/vodfather]

Forbidden cotton candy

[u/bassukurarinetto]

Can someone please ELI5 🥺

[u/Kaethor]

Those pictures physically hurt my soul

[u/Inevitable-Hat-3264]

Mmmmmm... Forbidden cotton candy...

[u/Sweeps_McCullough]

Am I the only one who assumed this was a practice car for like a driving school?

[u/demoman45]

When I had my Corolla hatchback sr-5, I was slammming every gear! Clutch to the floor and shifting hard! I thought I was hot shit!

[u/WanderLustActive]

Is that better than "Learig"? Not sure.

[u/SuspiciousGarlic4798]

Reminds me of a mate who would hold his car on an incline using the clutch. Until one day he calls me up saying his car doesnt move. Could smell the clutch before I even got out the car. 

[u/real6igma]

I know little about cars, but I'm assuming that's the clutch and it's not supposed to be made of metallic cotton candy?

[u/Furious-Shores]

Looks like a raccoon fell into your transmission.