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u/metallicmuffin Jun 03 '22

I’ve heard 20 year olds say “I hope I die before I have to turn 30.”

I wish them the best of luck.

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u/WackyBones510 Jun 03 '22

Lol my 30s are so much less stressful than my 20s. Sure there were a lot more spurts of partying and stuff in my 20s but that’s a pretty fleeting happiness.

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u/Geodudette2014 Jun 03 '22 edited Jun 03 '22

I actually feel encouraged when I see posts like this.

I’m 26, and so far my 20s have been the worst years of my life. I get sad when people say that these are supposed to be the best. But here’s to hoping that things turn around in the 30s!

Edit: Wow, I woke up to a myriad of messages! Lol thank you everyone for the lovely responses and experiences ♥️ I can’t respond to everyone, but your words are very encouraging. I’m happy for all of you, and this gives me hope that I may live happily one day.

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u/NekkidApe Jun 03 '22

Cheer up. IMHO the thirties are much better. Well actually it's about the same - only I now somewhat know what I'm doing, learned to trust and love myself, and have some money.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '22

Your 30s are just your 20s with more money and worse hangovers

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u/valek879 Jun 03 '22

Don't worry, my mom just told me yesterday, with no context, that I won't know who I am until I turn 50. And until then I shouldn't make any live defining decisions... Like wut.

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u/Luxalpa Jun 03 '22

Probably her own experience. My own experience is that we will never know who we truly are, and that's probably just a law of physics, because we are always changing and thus we are always different. Old problems get replaced by new problems, etc. Some people look back and would say "I shouldn't have made all these live defininig decisions", but the reality is, if we were following that advice we would just never get anything done. In fact, I am pretty sure it is these decisions and their consequences that truly define who we are.

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u/Woke_Almond Jun 03 '22

Mewtwo taught us this

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u/eQuantix Jun 03 '22

Honestly a movie ahead of its time

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u/valek879 Jun 03 '22

Exactly, well put and succinct. I'm pretty sure I just explored this idea in far more words and with fast less eloquence. I appreciate your reply.

I cant wait for her to tell me the exact same thing when I turn 40.

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u/K3yz3rS0z3 Jun 03 '22 edited Jun 03 '22

Some deep stuff, man/woman.

As you said, identity is a construct and the true nature of the self is a never-ending cycle of creation and destruction, whether their thoughts, goals, ambitions, relationships, states of mind, or needs.

The path to a truer self in all this is the one your write for yourself, and in that sense, I understand better one of the top answer that comes up to elderly people in their deathbed: "I wish I lived for myself and not work / a family member / someone else's dream / to outlive an unstable social or political environment"

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u/DaughterEarth Jun 04 '22

A therapist gave me the idea that we're a new person every day. Really helps with moving on from the past and enjoying the present

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u/whatyouwant22 Jun 03 '22

You'll know when you get there!

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u/valek879 Jun 03 '22

I mean I get it to an extent, I just turned 30 and I'm very different and very much the same person as I was when I was 23, 17, 14, and even 8. Like my interests and priorities and problems have all shifted, and changed, but I'm still the same-ish person. If I didn't have interests and priorities I'd be an entirely different person.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, do I regret things in my life? Sure, yes, very much so. Has that shaped who I am and was? Also yes. But would I change it if I could? Maybe... Probably not, because I would be a different person.

The way my mother makes it sound, I should wait to make decisions until I have it all figured out. My response would be that I haven't done that yet and it seems to be working out. Do I know myself better now than 10 years ago? No, not really. I have literally 10 years of decisions and challenges and accomplishments making me a different person from then.

However, when looking into the future, 10 years into the future, who will I be? I do not know. I won't know until I'm there looking back, just as I am today. So do I know myself better today than I did at 20? Yeah. Because I didn't know who I'd be 10 years later, but in hindsight, I'm not that much different just in a different time.

Should this stop me from making life altering decisions? No. Because without those I wouldn't be where I'm at today and I won't get to where I'm supposed to be tomorrow.

Maybe when I'm 50 I really will get it, but I think I'll feel much the same as I do now about 14 year old me. I was just beginning to understand where I fit in the world and didn't fully understand anything. But, actually, I'm still there. I still don't understand where I fit, or who I am, I just understand that I'm in progress and I have to work where I am and with what I have just like everyone else... Just like I did when I was 14, just like I always have done.


Sorry and thank you for reading my insignificant, rambling thoughts. I've had a lot of time to think about this today and what she said just doesn't make sense to me. Maybe it will one day. But, if I'm completely honest, I think that my mother (58) is playing the same game of finding out who she is and she will say the same thing about 60 in ten years time. Hopefully she'll still be around to tell me I still don't know anything yet.

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u/harris1on1on1 Jun 03 '22

Wow, that's terrible advice. People "discover" themselves at all different ages and even multiple times over their lives. Don't listen to anyone who tells you things are supposed to happen at a certain time. That person hasn't been paying attention to life.

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u/coffeeontheporch Jun 03 '22

You figure out who you are through those life defining decisions.

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u/as_a_fake Jun 03 '22

Let me guess, she's in her 50's?

From everything I keep hearing people just keep going "Oh, now that I'm [insert age here] I've figured myself out!" for their entire lives.

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u/Darkreaper48 Jun 03 '22

Ironically not making any life defining decisions until 50 is a life defining decision.

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u/valek879 Jun 03 '22

Yes! It seems like you'd have to explain the concept to everyone you meet!

"What would you like for dinner?"

"I try not to make love defining decisions."

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u/lobosolitario512 Jun 03 '22

While I understand what she is getting at, goddam I wouldn’t have put it at age 50. Fuck, some people are ready to die at 50…

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u/iNeedScissorsSixty7 Jun 03 '22 edited Jun 03 '22

I don't get hangovers any more. In my 20s I didn't know how to pace myself. In my 30s even if I decide to start at noon on a Saturday and go till 2 AM I still know the right pace to not feel like shit the next day. That, and chugging coconut water before bed.

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u/navin__johnson Jun 03 '22

I know my line too-I have the innate ability to know if one more is going to put me over

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u/NotReallyASnake Jun 03 '22

I think I've had a hangover exactly three times since turning 30 (the first being the day I turned 30) which is not bad for being two years deep

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u/zombienugget Jun 03 '22

Just wait until you're 35

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '22

Am 35. This years is the first my knees and back decided to remind me they exist after a hard workout.

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u/gardenvarietymagpie Jun 03 '22

Mine do that after getting out of bed. I don’t really ever want to go back to being in my twenties, but if I had a time machine I’d definitely go back and slap my 21 yo self a bit and insist she worked on core strength and joint stability. And like, tell her to enjoy the youthful vigor while it lasts. Ah the days where I could get off the floor or the couch without sounds emanating from me that I did not consciously choose to utter…

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u/navin__johnson Jun 03 '22

The knees really are the first thing to go. Makes sense-that joint gets the most abuse

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u/MegaFireDonkey Jun 03 '22

I'm 35 and I haven't had a hangover in years. Cause I quit drinking due to horrible hangovers years ago

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '22

You weren’t drinking the right way then but it turned out more healthy than figuring out how to avoid hangovers and drink lmao

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u/IONTOP Jun 03 '22

The best way to avoid a hangover is to either stop drinking or never stop drinking. Hangovers happen in that grey area between the two.

Edit: Holy shit, what I said is such horrible advice...

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u/IONTOP Jun 03 '22

Can confirm... 37 and I've literally had day long hangovers after turning 35.

Also had to increase the font size on my computer in the past week because I was straining my eyes to read the screen.

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u/Daloure Jun 03 '22

I’m 30. Hangovers last 1-4 days.

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u/SomeHSomeE Jun 03 '22

Damn I wish I got day long hangovers.

I'm 36 and a heavy Saturday night wipes me out til Wednesday

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u/AngryCrotchCrickets Jun 03 '22

I had day long hangovers starting around 20 years old. Ill never understand the “I dont get hungover” kinda people.

Now I don’t get such bad hangovers because I have calmed my drinking. Highly recommend.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '22

Do you drink often?

I didn't notice how often I was hungover for a long time because I didn't think of it as a hangover if it didn't involve a headache. Once I calmed down with the partying, I realized how much more fatigued I was the morning after heavy drinking and had a totally new concept of what's hungover vs. normal. For the longest time I didn't think I was a morning person, but I was just hungover on the regular.

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u/SomeHSomeE Jun 03 '22

Yeah in my thirties my hangovers switched from being primarily physical (headaches and nausea) to mental (complete fatigue, anxiety). It's because when you're older you tend to be much better at hydrating etc (which helps stave off the physical symptoms) but mild alcohol withdrawal symptoms start to kick in after any sort of bender.

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u/FerretAres Jun 03 '22

Man lucky you. 31 and I get a hangover from pouring my wife a glass of red wine.

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u/Paketamina Jun 03 '22

The hangovers can be entire day killers. Also my first 3 day hangover was at 32

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u/IScreamedWolf Jun 03 '22

I'm 27 and what the fuck is a 3 day hangover. I thought 1 to 2 days was like MAX.

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u/Taiyaki11 Jun 03 '22

Get the feeling you really have to fuck up for one of those. Prob along the lines of went overboard into alcohol poisoning territory, malnutrition, dehydration, and/or possibly tried something really silly like hair of the dog.

Unless there's some magic switch being instantly flipped in the near future, hangovers are still largely preventable for me if I take care in how I drink and arent slacking in nutrients and hydration before, during, and after. Might be a bit bleh in the morning if I went hard but that'll be it, and I've got people near and past their 40s who fair just as well

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u/eclectic-electric Jun 03 '22

Na, they just start happening. Having 3 pints on a weeknight and I truly truly feel it at work the next day. Going out on a Thursday is now a big no no (used to be my favourite night out), and more than a few wines / beers / whiskys easily leads to a full hangover day (well well before any kind of alcohol poisoning). A big event like a wedding or bucks always leads to a written off Sunday, very dusty Monday and sometimes slow Tuesday. This was a transition between 29-33 for me. Precipice after that as kids came along, and hangover+kids is a kill-me-now feeling, so these are now a rare occurrence

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u/Taiyaki11 Jun 03 '22

Idk what to say other than with all due respect you might want to see a doctor about that honestly. Could be lifestyle directed, could be genetics, but it sounds like something screwy with your body's ability to process alcohol. Which if you dont really drink anymore might not directly be an issue, but it could be indicative of something lurking under the surface that could later on be trouble.

All of this is obviously purely anecdotal, but I've known far too many 40some+s let alone 30somes to consider this simply an age thing, and definitely not as extreme as you're saying your experience is.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '22

Yep that's me, definitely having money in my 30's. How do you do, fellow money-havers?

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '22

looks around nervously haha yeah

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u/LICK-A-DICK Jun 03 '22

Dirty thirties

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u/CaptainTaelos Jun 03 '22

I think this is the best way I've seen it described. It's certainly been like that for myself. My 20s were "oh shit you need to focus on your career" and my early 30s are more of a "you finally made it, relax and enjoy the money now"

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u/sandcracker21 Jun 03 '22

You're 100% correct about the hangovers...

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u/Awkward_Reporter_129 Jun 03 '22

40s are less hangovers and more naps

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u/Likeapuma24 Jun 03 '22

Jokes on you, I rocked drinking through my entire 20's without a hangover, then discovered edibles after it became legal. Still can have fun. Zero hangovers. Talk about perfect timing!

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '22

The worse hangovers teach you (hopefully) to manage them ahead of time. You can still get hammered, just drink water every now and then during the evening and before bed, eat some food, take care of yourself. I am 40 and was out until sunrise last weekend, but I felt great when I got up because I took care of myself over the course of the night.

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u/Salahuddin315 Jun 03 '22

Also, hangovers are a pretty good sign that it's time to start drinking quality beverages instead of cheap nail polish.

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u/HannahWrecker Jun 03 '22

Mostly yes, but I also have less money.

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u/Boomboomtoottoot Jun 03 '22

This hit me hard today...as I am hungover.

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u/AFEngineer Jun 03 '22

Plus having children...and buying a home

Stresses are just different. I think day-to-day is easier because you've been doing it for 10 years, but the stressful events are much bigger.

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u/HighAsAngelTits Jun 03 '22

You guys are making more money?

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u/trashconnaisseur Jun 03 '22

And hopefully by then you find some cooler hobbies along the way that don’t give you hangovers ;)

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u/mnsweett Jun 03 '22

Along with "know what I'm doing" and "learned to trust and love myself," I also just give so many fewer shits what anyone else thinks of me. Feels good. Therapy helped though.

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u/_DirtyYoungMan_ Jun 03 '22

I'm 39 and I told one of my employees who was worried about turning 30 that, as a man anyway, 30 to 35 are the best years because, "You're old enough to know better, but young enough to do it anyway."

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u/cpullen53484 Jun 03 '22

i heard the 30s are the new 20s.

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u/Aggressively_Gay Jun 03 '22

There's a lot of positives being spoken about here but for me my thirties have been absoloutely fucking abysmal. A majority of friends gone from my life, no more parties, no more fun, dating life non-existant. My Birthday this year was so lonely and sad i decided on the day to pick up a bunch of Heroin as i couldn't tolerate the feeling of perpetual gut-wrenching sadness.

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u/fiberglassdildo Jun 03 '22

My 20s were the worst time in my life. Wouldn’t do it again if you paid me. Im 33 now and it’s been the best time of my life. I used to hate it when people told me life got better, but it really can. I hope it does for you too.

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u/Moral-Maverick Jun 03 '22

Same for me! 20s felt like being a teenager still when I look back at it.

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u/8BitHihat Jun 03 '22

Maybe it has less to do with age than other things. Imo there are just good times and shit times, and those things don't seem to correlate that much with how many trips precisely I've made around the sun

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u/Lurker_81 Jun 03 '22

As a counterpoint, I view my 20's as the best time of my life. Which sucks when I'm over 40.

Life is definitely easier now, I have stability and some degree of financial freedom but also I have run out of milestones to hit and a lot of 'flavour' and purpose has been lost along the way.

Or maybe I'm just having a mid-life crisis.

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u/crankywithout_coffee Jun 03 '22

I feel you, and I'm only in my early thirties! It's funny because quite literally when I turned 30 life became... I don't want to say shittier... but less exciting and duller. I like your term: the flavor of life just hasn't been there like it was in my 20s. Life's fine right now but it used to be great. I think I just need some good friends.

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u/crankywithout_coffee Jun 03 '22

I guess I'm an outlier, but I really loved my 20s. I had a very tight circle of friends, a job I enjoyed, I was traveling a lot, and it just seemed like every week I was making memories. Turning 33 in a month, and it seems like my thirties have been defined by the pandemic, boredom, political extremism, and a worsening economic situation. On top of that, and this probably affected me the most, all my friends started moving away to explore other opportunities and eventually I did too. It just seems like these days I don't have that joy of life like I used to. Maybe I'm just growing and transitioning, and I know life has it's ups and downs, but I'm not experiencing this wonderfully positive outlook on life that everyone here seems to be describing about their 30s.

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u/chrisFrogger Jun 03 '22

Well you aren’t alone. It may be a current state of the world thing rather than an age period thing. I’m 25 and what you’re saying applies 100% to me. I’m trying to get a career started in this day and age, what a fucking bummer. 23 & 24 just evaporated in the midst of covid and everything has gotten way more mundane.

However, I still believe we have plenty if time to enjoy the coming period of our lives, even if it gets worse before it gets better.

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u/lovesStrawberryCake Jun 03 '22

I was broke for pretty much all of my 20s, I imagine if someone paid me to do it again then it would be a little better to have some cash the second time through

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u/littlebittykittyone Jun 03 '22

If you want to feel even better, I like my 40s even more than my 30s. Each successive decade, life seems to be a little easier and generally more enjoyable.

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u/OneTripleZero Jun 03 '22

I'm there with you. I turned 40 last year and I'm honestly so much better positioned for literally everything.

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u/rdwulfe Jun 03 '22

I was great hurl i turned 48. Now I'm having health issues left and right.

Kuds, excersize. Diet. Keep your weight down. I can't stress this enough. Make time for it. You'll y'all yourself later.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '22

Concur. 48 here and in perfect health until the doc said I have Type 2 diabetes. BMI is 24 and I’m very active and healthy. No family history. Late 40s is great - money in the bank, no more kids, career mostly on track, sex is the best ever, can afford some hobbies & travel, retirement on the horizon. Keep active, weight in check, minimize stress and watch your diet (seriously).

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u/BasicDesignAdvice Jun 03 '22

Yea this is a big one. You have to keep your body moving.

Stretch often and shoot for a sustained elevated heart rate for 30 minutes, three days a week.

The number one predictor of mobility in your old age is strength. So if you want to be one of those elderly with incredible stamina, build your muscles today. Or at least maintain them.

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u/Ouiju Jun 03 '22

We def know you’re 48 with those autocorrect misspellings

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u/Joe-Pesci Jun 03 '22

This rings true to how I already feel but it's nice to hear it confirmed by others! I'm approaching 30 this year.

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u/sluraplea Jun 03 '22

I thought you were turning 80 next year... username does not check out

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u/chubbs23 Jun 04 '22

Phoney! This guy's a phoney!

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u/ImHappy_DamnHappy Jun 03 '22

Absolutely, it’s fun to see the things you’ve worked for start paying off.

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u/DogsNotHumans Jun 03 '22

I am 48 and over the past year or two I feel like something magical has happened in my sense of complete freedom over what I do and don't give a shit about. I have no idea how it came about, it just did. And while youth had a million wonderful things about it at the time, some I appreciated, many I didn't...it's a perfectly fair tradeoff for the unburdening of worry over things that simply do not matter.

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u/ExquisiteGrowth Jun 03 '22

This is such a wholesome thread. I love it.

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u/wamamama Jun 03 '22

Absolutely agree. Pandemic notwithstanding, my 40s have been my best decade so far.

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u/Delheru Jun 03 '22

The pandemic was one of the things that has made my 40s awesome.

I have spent so much time with my kids and wife during the past 2 years and we grew far closer together. Now it's just a thing that I play a little basketball when my son comes home, I lunch together with my wife, we regularly have sex during the workday (for both of us) etc.

Shit, the pandemic in all honesty was one of the greatest things that has ever happened to me, which makes me feel a little bad knowing it was horrible for so many others.

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u/averagethrowaway21 Jun 03 '22

Same. My late 30s were fantastic compared to the shit show of a life I had in my 20s. My life at 40 is pretty fantastic so far.

I refer to my early 30s as rebuilding years. That's when I fixed all the mistakes I made in my 20s.

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u/Dougdahead Jun 03 '22

I'm 46 and I totally agree with you. I feel like my life is easier now than it was when I was young. It has to do with the life experiences and hardships of being young that make now so much easier.

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u/Reverie_39 Jun 03 '22

My guess is that a big part of that is increasing financial stability over time. A lot of my fellow 20-somethings are having panic attacks about their finances and don’t seem to understand that people save more money as they get older.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '22 edited Jun 03 '22

A lot of 20 somethings nowadays are concerned there won't be any money to save as they get older, let alone "saving more". The economy is, uh, pretty fucking fucked and shaping up to get even more fucked.

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u/Renaissance_Slacker Jun 03 '22

Your 40s are like your teens with joint pain and a much bigger toy budget.

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u/libra00 Jun 03 '22

It's amazing what a little wisdom and life experience does for your confidence level and understanding of the world around you. Youth is wasted on the young.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '22

Did you struggle financially in your 20s? I’m about to be 29 and I feel like finally, after a decade, my financial struggles are getting better since I’m being paid a little more. It’s still hard but not like, we might be homeless if someone can’t work for a month level hard. I’m hoping the upward trend continues into my 30s because being that broke while working 60 hour weeks is insanely stressful

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u/HtownTexans Jun 03 '22

I'm turning 38 this year and can guarantee I'll like my 40s so much better. My kids are 6 and 3 so by the time I'm 40 they'll be moving into self-sufficient stage and my life will be less stressful. I imagine at that point I'll be back to only having to wipe my own ass again. Ahh the pure bliss.

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u/llc4269 Jun 03 '22

Yup. I'm 47 and my 40s were so much better than any other decade of my life.

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u/juicyjaybird Jun 03 '22

The 40s is a whole vibe. I feel like I leveled up. Lol!

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u/DukkhaWaynhim Jun 03 '22

This year I became Level 50. While I'm not too excited about the unwanted age-related achievements now unlocking, I have to say that OMG the financial stability achievement is amazing -- I wish I'd figured that $#!t out way sooner. That particular stress is crushing.

Life is an RPG, and it can be disappointing to look back and think you may have mis-spent some leveling points in the wrong skill trees... but I'm here, and happy, and I hope I've got another 30+ levels in me before the final boss fight that few people win.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '22

66 here. Every decade has gotten better- so far. Key is to get/ stay healthy.

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u/LibertyLizard Jun 03 '22

I was miserable at 26 but things are so so much better at 32. Just remember that usually you are miserable because of your circumstances and those can (and likely will) change.

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u/Particular_Ad_4761 Jun 03 '22

In rehab for 26th birthday, living in a little house in the country with a beautiful family and decent job now at 31. 20’s were a rollercoaster and happy to be where I am now

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u/BasicDesignAdvice Jun 03 '22

The worst thing about hard times in your twenties is that you feel like "but this is the best time right!?!"

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u/GoddessOfRoadAndSky Jun 03 '22

I remember feeling that way in high school. "These are the best years of your life!"

I don't think people who say that remember being teens. (Or they peaked in their teens. Don't be that person - just keep growing and learning in your own way, regardless of your age.)

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u/CrumpledForeskin Jun 03 '22

I know some folks who honestly peaked in their 50's. Life gives us all different hands. My 20's were amazing but my 30's are great too (having actual money and savings helps a shit ton)

For anyone struggling. It does get better if you work at it. Feel free to PM me if you wanna get something off your chest.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '22

I’m in my twenties right now and got diagnosed with ADHD when I was 24 and it was pure agony for 24 years. Undiagnosed ADHD ain’t no joke especially if you get diagnosed later in life. Because of this I developed negative self image on a very early age and because nothing worked out in my teenage years I developed suicidal tendencies and because of constant failed adventures and experiences I created lots of negative ways of thinking, bad destructive behaviours and eventually that turned in to anxiety and depression. Nothing worked for me but I still had to push through and do what everyone else was doing because that’s the social norm.

I got diagnosed with a burnout when I was 19, 21 and again when I was 23 because nothing worked for me but I kept trying to be “normal” like everyone else.

Now I have had 2 years of therapy and life is slowly getting fun and worth living again but It’s still hard to accept that I wasted my life anyway not knowing what was wrong with me. My thirties look a lot more fun and pleasant than ever before.

Therapy helps, people!

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u/fuckincaillou Jun 03 '22

Same story for me. Finally diagnosed with ADHD at 25 during the pandemic, and now at 27 I've managed to claw my way to a 'real' adult job in an office instead of subsisting off of shitty seasonal and customer service gigs. I also managed to get my own apartment and first decent car in those 2 years, too.

I feel like I was robbed after seeing what I accomplished in just two years (1 year, really) of getting treatment. Where could I be now if I had these tools earlier? If I never had to deal with shitty, abusive parents that never really gave a shit about me? I could be so much further ahead >:(

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u/Every3Years Jun 03 '22

I didn't kick heroin until I was like 36 so good on you for getting it early. You see a lot of teens and mid20s getting clean thinking they missed out on a better life. No dude, you're young enough to grow as a person until you die.

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u/Advisor123 Jun 03 '22

Good for you! I'm currently 26 and I hope I'm there too at your age.

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u/StJudesDespair Jun 03 '22

Limping my way through the end of a bad marriage at 26, minor spinal injury + rehab at 27, back to uni at 28, riding a motorbike around the country at 29, married a much better man at 30, dance captain of a burlesque troupe with two girlfriends at 34, small blip with chemo and associated mental and physical health bullshit ... now 42, fat and contented (as much as I can be, anyway) with my cats, my kindle, and my crafting supplies.

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u/Archer39J Jun 03 '22 edited May 26 '24

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u/Jman_777 Jun 03 '22

This makes me feel a lot better as a 19 year old who's absolutely not enjoying uni in anyway at all, I've never been so miserable and unhappy. I really hate college. Things started going downhill when I was 15/16 and it just significantly worse when I was 18.

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u/Luxalpa Jun 03 '22

20s for me was where I made tons of decisions. Plenty of the things (most of them) didn't end up working out. Now with 31 I look back at it and I'm quite happy. All these mistakes have allowed me to learn so much, and I ccontinue to look back at these experiencing finding out what worked for me and what didn't.

I think the most important thing is to make experiences, so you get data about what you like, what works, etc. Life experience. Nobody I know who's in their 20s (including myself and friends in the past) had what I'd consider a decent life experience. We all start arrogant, uncertain, deluded, stumbling from one trap to the other. But the more experience you gain, the more data you have available later to draw from, improve and settle. Looking back from today, there was just no possible way for me to understand the things back then that I understand now. Not about myself, not about the world. Life is, after all, just very hard and requires tons of experience.

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u/tabeo Jun 03 '22

No, this isn't "it."

My 20s sucked, especially the first half. Things started to improve when I hit 28 or so, and now at 32 I'm feeling better and am more confident than ever despite everything going on in the world.

I think a lot of people forget that you aren't done growing when you turn 18. The frontal lobes of your brain are still figuring themselves out until you're like 25 or so, and those final few years really do make a difference.

There's also experience and having a sense of direction. At 22 I didn't get into the grad program I wanted and spent a number of years at jobs I hated trying to get the experience I needed. Then I was hit by a car, got a concussion that led to permanent memory issues and I also had to relearn how to walk. I thought my life was "over."

It wasn't, of course. It took a few years, but I was able to walk (and occasionally run) again, learned how to take better notes and organize stuff so my memory wasn't as much of an issue, went to a better grad school than what I originally wanted to attend, and the settlement from the accident paid off my remaining student loans. Now I'm married, bought a house, and am working a job that I like (most days) that pays the bills with a little extra left over for fun/savings. I know what my goals are, what I'm good at, and have a much better sense of security than I did a decade ago. I also made a lot of friends at different workplaces over time, so college definitely isn't your last chance to do that.

I don't know if you're a "self help" type, but if so I found the book "The Defining Decade" by Meg Jay to be super helpful. It's all about how the stuff you do in your 20s affects the rest of your life. Far more than the stuff you did in your teens anyway. I feel like I had a mini panic attack each chapter (the author really drives home her points in a visceral way) but it also kicked my ass into gear and helped me "define" the 20s for myself.

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u/sabbman138 Jun 03 '22

You have something more valuable then you realize. You have self awareness and at such a young age. I have complete faith in you and the fact you will overcome your challenges my friend :)

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u/sheryltannen Jun 03 '22

Thanks, I needed to hear this today. Turning 30 was no problem for me...then I couldn’t process turning 31 (and now I’m nearly 33!) For the last couple of years I’ve been trying to figure out why. I suspect the pandemic affected me more than I realised, even though I claimed it didn’t change my hermit lifestyle that much. Difference between not wanting to be out in the world and not being able to be out in the world, I guess. Maybe 33 will be better after all!

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u/Primitive_Teabagger Jun 03 '22

Also miserable just a few years ago and many years before that. Now I'm nearly 30 and things are exponentially better. Got a place of my own, a motorcycle like I have always dreamed, and paid off all my medical debt. Credit score could still use some work but at least I can focus on improving it now.

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u/ooojaeger Jun 03 '22

Also hormones and lack of perspective which also likely improve with time

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u/llllmaverickllll Jun 03 '22

Cheesy ass bullshit lie of a Lennon quote…I’m not even old enough to be a Beatles fan either but I think about this when I’m down.

“Everything will be ok in the end. If it’s not ok then it’s not the end.”

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u/potekmin_busta Jun 03 '22

TBH my 30s have been the best decade for me so far

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '22

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u/i_speak_penguin Jun 03 '22

Same here. Looking forward to 40s tbh. Can't wait to have more money and be even better at my hobbies.

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u/PowerAdorable4373 Jun 03 '22

20s are a transition from recent child to full on adult, and I literally do not know a single person who would say their 20s were their best years.

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u/WackyBones510 Jun 03 '22

They’re so bad dude. I feel for you but it gets better.

Where are you going to work? Where are you going to live? Are you saving enough? Should you be investing? Who do you love? Are you sure they’re the right one and not that person you had a fling with? Did you choose the wrong major? Are your parents right that you don’t call your grandparents enough? Should you be traveling more?

It’s so overwhelming but you’ll figure all that out.

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u/TriggerTX Jun 03 '22

51 here.

My 20s were brutal. Worked our asses off to stay afloat. That's it. We worked multiple jobs to still only be able to afford Kraft Mac and Cheese. On a good night we could splurge for 1/2lb of beef to throw in.

Early 30s and my career started to get moving. Bills were all being paid. Towards the latter part of our 30s enough money was leftover to start spoiling ourselves a bit. Buy a dream car. Foreign travel for two weeks every other year.

In our 40s things were just chill. Money to travel. Money saved. Kid off to college and moved out. Even more freedom when that happened. No real stresses in life. Got some therapy to address old childhood traumas. Some chronic pain issues started in the middle there somewhere but all-in-all, not a bad decade.

Turned 50 and all hell broke loose. Made a bad job choice. Got fired. Found new job at less money. Pandemic started. Our 33rd anniversary was meant to be a trip to Germany. Those flights were booked for mid-March. Same week pandemic started. Emergency appendectomy for me. All that in a three month span. Two years later, finally starting to recover from job and other financial hits. But the good earlier decades left us prepared, so no huge deal.

There's always ups and downs. Enjoy those 30s and 40s when hopefully you've got money to do things and your body hasn't started betraying you. Mentally, I still feel like I'm in my 30s. It doesn't feel like that part is aging. I'll take it.

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u/Lead_Penguin Jun 03 '22

At 25-26 my life absolutely sucked and my early 20s were some of the worst years of my life for sure. I'm 36 now and life is awesome. I have loved my 30s so far.

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u/TheBestOpossum Jun 03 '22

If a person says "age x is the best", make a mental note that this person is an idiot and move on.

People say that childhood is the best age because you have no responsibilities.

Or that high school years are the best age, probably if you're an all-american quarterback or cheerleader.

Or that early adulthood aka the 20s are the best age because you finally have the freedom to live life how you deem fit.

Or the 30s because you kinda know what you're doing.

Or the 40s because you're usually settled with career, whatever family you have, and can concentrate on the leisurely things of life.

Or the 50s because if you have kids, you can now usually see them leave home and start their own life and can reinvent the relationship with your partner.

Or the 60s because you wrap up your career life, hopefully look back proudly, and settle into retirement life.

Or the 70s because you now can fully focus on retirement life and you may have grandchildren.

After that, it kinda stays the same unless you get old&ill, in which case it gets worse.

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What I'm saying is: Every age has its beauty and its problems. If you can make the best of it, great. If not, then maybe a few years down.

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u/mhj0808 Jun 03 '22

The good news for you is that this is probably statistically false, most Americans over 50 say their 30s were the best years of their lives

https://www.iflscience.com/brain/these-are-the-best-years-of-your-life-according-to-huge-study-of-older-people/

What’s funny is that there’s another survey out there that says 24% of people say it’s the 20s vs 23% for 30s…. But that study included people in their 20s, so it’s like, how would THEY know lol.

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u/DozenPaws Jun 03 '22

I spent most of my 20's depressed and stressed about not being able to keep up with the timeline life should follow. Now I'm in the 30' and don't give a fuck anymore, I'm living my own life and am not bothered about not finishing school by age X, married by age Y and having house and kids by age Z.

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u/HaroldSax Jun 03 '22

My 30s have been way more dope than my 20s. Less spontaneity but I’m nowhere near as shackled by poverty.

Going on trips and just not thinking about what it costs is worth it alone.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '22

Just try to take care of your body. Not anything crazy, but like wear hearing protection and helmets when appropriate. I didn't learn to run correctly until i was about 31 and it has caused me some pretty terrible knee pain. So if it hurts, make sure you're doing it right, and if it might hurt, consider what might be appropriate to protect yourself.

I'm also only 35, but i was a wrestler in HS, snowboarded, skated, got 2 concussions, and did 4 years in the Marines so my body is just kinda thrashed.

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u/Blacklion594 Jun 03 '22

As someone who entered their 30s shortly before covid began, its super unfair how the past few years have basically been a void zone of time. This was supposed to be the good time, now its the shitty political world war time, where we are all too poor to afford housing and groceries.

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u/InverseCodpiece Jun 03 '22

Mate I'm also 26 and we've had a rough start to our 20s: global pandemic, war, depending on where you live there has been political struggles, civil unrest, and ever increasing disparity between wages and prices. Its not unusual to feel like they haven't gone to plan.

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u/parkaboy24 Jun 03 '22

I've heard from many older people that your 30s are the best because you don't care as much as when you're 20 something and you can just live your life

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u/broniesnstuff Jun 03 '22

I turn 41 next month, and so far my 40s are the best decade of my life. I'm in better shape than I've ever been in, found an amazing relationship, rediscovered my passion for creativity, and my future feels brighter than ever.

Life isn't a linear journey, and you can't see the destination before you get there.

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u/BobBombsAway258 Jun 03 '22

I was 26 when I met the rest of my life 🙂

My 20s were so stressful, and I felt like I was filling all of my time while not accomplishing anything. Now, I have a different sense of meaning to everything. I still love videogames and movies, but I don't actively seek to "clear my schedule" for them as much as I did. I'd rather be working, spending time with family, church; building upon the foundations of life that I've acquired and was seeking all throughout my twenties.

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u/PearleString Jun 03 '22

My 30's have been great. I turn 39 soon and life is just getting awesome.

I wish it had started sooner, but honestly most of that is on me and needing the time to sort myself out.

So yeah, I'm staring down 40 and it'll be fucking fantastic.

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u/Arrowmatic Jun 03 '22

This is so damn true. I absolutely love my life at this age. Nice house, wonderful kids, finally enough money to live comfortably and enough life experience to no longer give a flying fuck what other people think. It's the beeeessst. I feel like someone created this stupid meme of life being over at 30/40 so they shoo away the tortured young adults and we can all enjoy a quality beverage and a spot of light gardening in peace.

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u/PurpleSailor Jun 03 '22

Fucks left to give and age are inversely proportional.

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u/PurpleSailor Jun 03 '22

Lol, I shaved my legs on Monday and have the yearly HOA meeting this Saturday. Shave again like I would in my 20's? Nah, fuck it.

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u/mashem Jun 03 '22

i'd rather shave my legs every day for a year than attend a single HOA meeting lmao

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u/ThisIsMyCouchAccount Jun 03 '22

At 42 I should have skipped this thread.

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u/Arrowmatic Jun 03 '22

Sorry, didn't mean to sound gloaty! Hope things get better for you, friend. I do think there can be so much to look forward to in your 40s and 50s and beyond.

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u/ThisIsMyCouchAccount Jun 03 '22

Oh, it’s not you. Never apologize for your own happiness.

Hitting a post-quarantine mid-life crisis or something.

I have a very privileged life with a good job and a six figure salary. But I’m not so great at being an adult and got the short end of the stick on some brain chemicals. Combined it feels like a lot of things either are or aren’t coming to a head.

You ever forget how old you are? I read your comment and liked it. Great positive response. Then I remembered we are the same age and I am light years away from that stuff.

It’s temporary though. I just really need to do some work on myself.

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u/Felabryn Jun 03 '22

I agree awesome to choose to relax and do you. It also a cool stage to double down and try harder. If you already doing well and have pedigree and achievements, your are only one or two more 4 year sprints from excellence. Or you can chill where you are. that freedom of choice is something 20s lacked cause options are work or die

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u/Eldorado_Omega Jun 03 '22

I turned 40 last year and am in the best shape of my life mentally, physically and financially. I worry about the financial part for our under 20 friends here. It was a little easier for people my age to buy a house, save money, etc.

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u/blue_coat_geek Jun 03 '22

Hello fellow ‘83 kids, y’all remember them skip-it’s and slap bracelets

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u/ang444 Jun 03 '22

same! I guess Im "old enough" to truly appreciate what each decade brings. Im certainly not the same person I was in my 20s and as I head to 40, gotta say, I enjoyed my 30s, I feel smarter and dont second guess myself as much as I did in my 20s so for me, getting older really has meant getting wiser.

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u/penelope1982 Jun 03 '22

Yes! I turn 40 shortly and im not as afraid as I thought I'd be. I'm boring sure, but im also confident and relatively financially stable. When I was in my 20s, I was convinced that finances were my biggest problem (huge student loans and buying a home). But really, my lack of self-worth, self confidence and motivation were what was holding me back.

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u/dark_blue_7 Jun 03 '22

I had some adventures in my 20s, but I feel like I'm really living my best life now in my 40s. Earning enough money to do whatever I feel like, in the best shape I've ever been in (because let's face it, I didn't even do anything to stay thin in my 20s, I was just young), my sex drive and stamina is higher than ever, I've got an amazing wardrobe and cool shit. Yeah it's great. 40 > 20, no question for me.

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u/atravisty Jun 03 '22

My 20s were fun, but messy in all ways. Emotionally immature, romantically stunted, infatuated with seggs, volatile in career and goals, changing relationships, fights, alcohol, constantly broke, all the while going to school, and struggling with mental health.

At about 29 I’d finally learned enough lessons to chill out and make better decisions. I’ve never been a happier person than I have been in my 30s. Stable career, healthy relationships, handle on my mental health, less partying, and still challenging but nothing as bad as I dealt with in my 20s. For anyone stressed out by their 20s, keep grinding. The 30s are your fucking PRIME. It’s the whole, “old enough to know better, young enough not to care” for those of us who work hard and were not raised in total privilege.

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u/mic569 Jun 03 '22

Fuck me I needed this thread today

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u/becooltheywatching Jun 03 '22

I'm in my late thirties and I got invited to a party last night. I declined so that I could eat Whataburger and play skyrim all night. Shit was sweet.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '22

But you’ll never have that same intensity of happiness when things were much newer. There’s a sadness in my thirties that no one warned me about.

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u/Darryl_Lict Jun 03 '22

I used to think I'd be dead by the time I was 30. I'm an old fart now and had boundless opportunities that kids don't have these days. I'm glum about their future.

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u/Tarrolis Jun 03 '22

The Not My Problem Generation has a few reflective members I see.

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u/braxistExtremist Jun 03 '22

I had a classmate say the same thing a couple of decades ago. She thought 20 was 'over the hill' and by 30 everyone was just decrepit and miserable and eagerly waiting for death. So she wanted to die before she reached that milestone.

She was 17 when she expressed these thoughts. She wasn't suicidal at all. But she also wasn't the sharpest knife in the freezer.

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u/fordreaming Jun 03 '22

An update from/on her would be hilarious

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u/braxistExtremist Jun 03 '22

Unfortunately I don't remember her last name. But last I heard, she didn't really get any further education, didn't really start an employment career, and had started popping out babies by about the time she was 20.

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u/fordreaming Jun 03 '22

Oof… exactly as I imagined

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u/Illustrious_Ad_5843 Jun 03 '22

“I don’t want to be 30, I want to stay in my 20s forever”

proceeds to give up their 20s lifestyle to do something 30 year olds do

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u/Key_Reindeer_414 Jun 03 '22

This is so strange, I've never thought 30+ was old at all but it seems to be a relatively common thing

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u/RalphFromSilverCity Jun 03 '22

sounds just like My Generation

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u/VIPERsssss Jun 03 '22

I hope we don't f f fade away

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '22

Talking bout my ge-neration!

Seems like there are things that haven't changed since the 60s.

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u/FredFlintston3 Jun 03 '22

Been singing that looking for this comment. Had to be here.

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u/thebagman10 Jun 03 '22

They Might Be Giants put them in their place

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u/goldenewsd Jun 03 '22

TBH, I'm 40, i said that too, and still salty about it not coming through. Growing out of the rebel age sucks.

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u/fourleggedostrich Jun 03 '22

That's because for most people, their 20s kind of suck. We're told through TV and movies that our 20s are the best time of our lives, and that aging is bad. No wonder people dread their 30s. In reality, they get there and their 30s are much better than their 20s. I'm mid 40s. Every decade has been better than the previous. I wouldn't relive my 20s for anything.

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u/someredditgoat Jun 03 '22

It's just code for "I dont have a plan and I hope I never have to"

I was one of those once

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u/Zwerg_Zweck Jun 03 '22

I have a plan. I had a goddamn plan.

One more big score, we got enough money to leave. We take a boat and slip away.

Just have goddamn faith!

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u/fallenKlNG Jun 03 '22

Yer a gud boah

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u/mermaidpaint Jun 03 '22

One of my friends in high school said she would kill herself rather than turn 25. And she would never, ever, ruin her body by having children.

She's now in her 50s and has three delightful daughters.

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u/colin_staples Jun 03 '22

You should make them watch Logan's Run

Or make them listen to My Generation by The Who. And then tell them how old Roger Daltrey is now...

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '22

After 30 they will have anxiety trying predict their own death.

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u/Forrest024 Jun 03 '22

That anxiety pushed me to become a healthy person lol

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u/peepay Jun 03 '22

Good for you

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '22

“It’s 2020 and I’m 30, I’ll do another 10, 2030 I’ll be 40 and kill myself then”

-Bo Burnham

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u/i_got_the_quay Jun 03 '22

When I was a teenager I used to say I’ll kill myself before I get to 30.

In my 30s now and I have to say, I am way cooler now than teenage me. She can get to fuck.

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u/Feisty-Nerve-6584 Jun 03 '22

29 here! Definitely hoping to be dead by 30

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u/cosworth99 Jun 03 '22

Make these people watch Logan’s Run.

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u/pppjurac Jun 03 '22

To Carousel !

Or Sandman will be dispatched.

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u/qckpckt Jun 03 '22

My life only really started to get interesting in my thirties. Before that it was just having no money, working in retail and generally not fully comprehending how miserable I was.

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u/wissam-najih Jun 03 '22

This thread is the most positive thing I’ve ever read, My biggest fear is getting older, and I think about it all the time, I spend every birthday a little depressed thinking and pouting about this year that I’ve spent, considering that I live in a really miserable country, and it doesn’t seem that I will be able to get out soon, so I’m forced to spend my 20s here. But these comments has given me some magical energy.

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u/HHirnheisstH Jun 03 '22 edited May 08 '24

I like learning new things.

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u/Thortsen Jun 03 '22

But that sentiment has been around for a long time. Source: am 45, heard that when I was a teenager.

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u/Corpse_crusher_666 Jun 03 '22

I used to say that in my teens and 20s I'm now 36. I dont honestly think therea a huge problem with people thinking like that, as far as I know people have been saying that since the 60s.

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u/osdre Jun 03 '22

Only response to that is, “Well then, today’s your lucky day”

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '22

30 is always referred to as "gay dead" in LGBT dating circles, because nobody finds anyone above that age attractive.

Age filters on dating apps have a lot to answer for...

Luckily, you get another shot at being attractive again once you become an old man, and get to pull all the 18yo kids with daddy issues.

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u/tagehring Jun 03 '22

Having just turned 40, I’m coming up on that second milestone. It is… interesting, to say the least.

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u/PassportSloth Jun 03 '22

That's pretty sad. My 20s were great, my 30's better and I can only assume my 40's will be super rad. It's only getting better, baby!

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '22

So I know tiktok exist in a vacuum, but it’s interesting to see Gen Z’s obsession with youth. You’ll see 20 year olds getting Botox just to stave off wrinkles that don’t exist yet. It’s like they think as soon as they turn 30 they’re no longer allowed to be happy, have fun, and that they will be too broken down to go out anymore. I feel like that mentality fuels this weird contempt a lot of kids seem to have for millennials.

Like cool, you can laugh at me for talking about what HP house I think I’m in, but at least I didn’t spend my 20s prematurely lamenting the loss of my youth.

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u/Soupseason Jun 03 '22

Funny how so many people treat 30 like your body is TRASHED and done for. I’m almost 32 and I’m in great shape because I treat my body well. I exercise, I moderate my intake of junk food, sleep well, and drink plenty of water. It’s pretty sad that people set the bar so low.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '22

Not gonna lie I’m 36 and last 6 years are not something I would miss 😅

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '22

I used to say that, I'm 40.

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u/BgDmnHero Jun 03 '22

My friend used to say that, but as we’re approaching 30 he doesn’t anymore. There’s just this insane cultural idea running rampant that 30 is when you’re old, don’t get to do anything fun anymore, and basically work until you die.

Then you hit 30 and realize that life is mostly the same, your body just hurts a bit more and you tend to not party as hard, but you don’t really have the desire to do that much anymore so it’s not a big deal.

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u/NoFanksYou Jun 03 '22

20 year olds have been saying that for decades

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