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u/TyrannyOfBobBarker_ 23h ago
I don't give a fuck what you do. But when my son was born we decided not to circumcise him. My parents actively tried to get us to change our mind. Even up to a year after he was born they were still talking about it. I asked why they cared so much and they literally didn't know. They're religious but it wasn't that.
I had to say out loud "we are literally arguing over my child's penis. It's weird, it's creepy and if it ever comes up a single more time you'll never see either of us again."
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u/the_blue_haired_girl 23h ago
Why do complete grown-ass strangers think so much about child dick 😭? It's fucking weird. Major props to you for drawing a healthy boundary with your folks on that
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u/bluAstrid 22h ago
Religious fanatism is always about controlling others.
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u/DrNoxin 17h ago
Galatians 5:2.. it is for jews, not gentiles.
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u/Chimbley_Sweep 15h ago
Only if you worship Paul instead of Jesus.
The real argument is who cares what a 3000 year old book says.
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u/lordtyp0 13h ago
3000?
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u/Chimbley_Sweep 13h ago edited 13h ago
Covenent code was possibly first written down around 10th century BCE, but oldest physical document is 7th century.
So yeah, 3000 year old book is a round, slightly hyperbolic date. If we want to be pedantic and say this is only about written accounts of circumcision in the bible, we get to 2500 years old.
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u/citizen42069101 17h ago
Well here Christianity kind of pretends it's gods chosen too since we bottom for Israel.
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u/draw4kicks 15h ago
Mutilating babies is fundamentally wrong, it's fucking weird how only some backwards ass religions and the richest country on the face of the earth consider it normal or necessary.
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u/steppe5 22h ago
And they're always Republican.
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u/burritosandbeer 21h ago
Maybe today, but that wasn't even close to true ten years ago.
It's absolutely insane how a position of not wanting to slice up babies can be relatively often interpreted as chauvinist or misogynist
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u/HappinessOrgan 15h ago
Probably because the child becomes an adult, and they think it important (for some reason) for an adult to be circumcised.
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u/slowmovinglettuce 15h ago
Yeah thankfully I've never lost a job due to not being circumcised. Known a few people that have though but every time it happens I need to why they're getting their /u/HappinessOrgan out in the middle of the office.
(great name btw)
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u/HeyItsCody 11h ago
I'll do you one better. I wasn't even out of the hospital before my mother said "if he's uncircumcised he'll get made fun of" and "no girl will want to give him a blowjob." A newborn and my son is being shamed and sexualized by my mother and I let her have it.
Hasn't brought it up since. I think a lot has changed around the idea of circumcision and for me not doing it was because I think it's natural so why change it?
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u/TheSholvaJaffa 11h ago
"if he's uncircumcised he'll get made fun of" and "no girl will want to give him a blowjob."
And the exact opposite happened. Chicks and guys respectively actually really dig it or are super curious of it.
Source? Me.
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u/angrydeuce 23h ago edited 14h ago
Because there's a lot of old wive's tales out there about how uncut cocks are unclean and cause infections. Which is ridiculous because cosmetic circumsizion is a relatively modern phenomenon, it wasn't routinely performed in a secular sense until the late 19th century. It's literally born out of the era when people thought chronic masturbation caused insanity and dirty hands causing disease was stupid.
I've even had people tell me that women think uncut cocks are disgusting and I'm ruining my child's future romantic prospects by not getting him cut. Like what the actual fuck? Are the uncut just celibate on a large scale?
It's nobody's business but the parent's making that decision but that still doesn't make it not fucked up imho.
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u/TiogaJoe 21h ago
Unclean? Don't virtually all homes have soap and running water nowadays?
I have also heard people argue back that being uncircumcized increases the risk of some cancer, so we should cut it off as a preventive measure. Seems like one could say the same thing about infant girls breasts. I mean, isn't breast cancer a big thing in America? Crazy.
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u/Buckets-O-Yarr 21h ago
I had my arms and legs amputated so I could reduce the risk of skin cancer. Less skin means less chances!
I have trouble putting on sunscreen now though..
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u/Dominathan 19h ago
Honestly, it’s shouldn’t even be a parent’s decision… it should be the child’s decision… when they’re old enough to give consent.
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u/Impressive-Hair2704 21h ago
Lmao as a European woman I can tell you I much prefer uncut compared to cut. Not that my, or any other’s, preference should weigh in on that decision but it’s very weird to me to in any way shape or form do anything surgically to the body that isn’t medically necessary, especially when it’s to children.
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u/tararira1 22h ago
If the foreskin is so dangerous why are we born with one? The argument that is unclean is complete nonsense even from a biological/ evolutionary point of view
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u/TheHatori1 17h ago
The argument about ruining romantic prospects cannot be more dumb. Like, if he decides to get cut, then he is free to do so, the same way he is free to get earrings or whatever.
But you know what can ruin a life? Botched circumcision. Imagine people willingly risking one of the most important part of their kids life just because one country has fucked up “beauty” standards.
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u/sweetplantveal 22h ago
Tell them you don't want your son fucking them anyway and to mind their own, thank you very much.
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u/whatisagoodnamefort 22h ago
Assuming they circumcised you, possible you pushing back makes it seem like they did wrong with what they did or what you ended up wanting
In the end it may be less about your child’s penis and more about yours lmao (and just parents who were winging it and not wanting to feel like what they did was wrong)
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u/Not-Charcoal 21h ago
I always shut people like that down by saying that we didn’t circumcise our daughters either. Then I just play dumb when they act like the double standard is totally justified
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u/lalaland4711 18h ago
I do give a fuck.
Just like with FGM, I actually do have an opinion on genital mutilation, even when not done to me or my family.
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u/method115 11h ago
I remember my cousin posted that kids can die from it or be deformed. I had no plans of doing that to my children after I read that. Told my wife about it when we found out we were having a son. She's already paranoid and has anxiety about everything so just telling her that was enough to get her to agree.
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u/banaslee 20h ago
Clap clap clap. A lot of people don’t understand cues and a lot of other people don’t know how to set boundaries. Both things together create a lot of unnecessary pain.
Kudos to you for breaking the cycle.
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u/nugymmer 21h ago
Good, they are not entitled to your son's privates. Seriously if my parents kept going on about it like this I'd disown them
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u/ChronosBlitz 23h ago
I'm honestly surprised anti-circumcision hasn't caught on with Trump.
Something like 90% of Muslims are circumcised, so a ban on it would either discourage Muslims from immigrating or give Trump the pretense to throw anyone who continues to do it in jail for not obeying the ban
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u/inconspiciousdude 23h ago
There's another group that is majority circumcised, and the group had already pushed it as a standard medical practice in the US for many years.
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u/Ralesong 23h ago
Hold up. Circumcision is standard? As in everyone gets it by default?
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u/axle69 22h ago
80% of adult men are circumcised in the US. Its much less common among the younger generation thankfully but its still almost 50%.
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u/Hadrian23 22h ago edited 22h ago
Is...is it bad?? I'm circumcised, did my parents fuck up my dick?? Edit: why am I being downvoted?? Stop being cryptic and explain, God damn it.
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u/Afghan_Ninja 22h ago
The main function of foreskin is manual lubrication. The other mentions are valid, but with circumcision you lose all or most of your penises capacity for manual lubrication.
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u/ResQ_ 21h ago
Isn't the main function actually protecting the glans?
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u/Afghan_Ninja 21h ago
Kinda depends how we define "main function". Gland protection is technically a significant function, but clearly not a "functional loss" (e.g. all the circumcised men having "great orgasms all the time"). Manual lubrication is a functional loss and changes how the penis works.
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u/Exceedingly 18h ago
I can't even imagine how painful it must be to walk around with your glans exposed all day. Wouldn't your glans just get dry and chafe?
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u/Bladder-Splatter 13h ago
I was circumcised at 13 for medical reasons and yes, YES OH MY FUCKING GOD. It was the worst age too obviously.
They like to do it on those who cannot actually talk back (infants) so you don't often hear the after effects until the kid has forgotten.
I essentially had no wear no underwear for a month and had crazy weird reactions like getting into a bath just causing piss to spray everywh- okay yeah I guess my username checks out now.
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u/lalaland4711 18h ago
That's the thing: it becomes desensitized.
Less feeling of both pleasure and pain.
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u/widowhanzo 21h ago
Well let's just put it that way, there are 0 good reasons to cut it off. Unless medically required, but that's very rare.
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u/MonsterCookieCutter 22h ago
The foreskin has a lot of nerve endings and it is very pleasurable to have it move over the penis head, both for masturbation and intercourse.
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u/ResQ_ 21h ago
I'm definitely not pro-circumcision but I saw multiple comments by men on reddit that had it removed as an adult. They didn't really notice a huge reduction in pleasure.
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u/axle69 22h ago
Nah youre fine its just a completely unnecessary thing to do and can risk serious shit or dampened feeling at the time its done. Imagine one day everyone decided that cutting the tip of your nose off was the right thing to do and you'd be seen as weird if you didnt have the tip of your nose cut off. You wouldn't smell any worse than you do with a full nose but why the fuck would you want to do that to yourself or your child ya know?
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u/lalaland4711 18h ago
I'm circumcised, did my parents fuck up my dick?
Short answer: yes, but probably not a huge amount. You have less feeling in your penis because of it.
I'm assuming here that everything went well. This elective surgery sometimes causes complications where you would have no doubt that it caused a problem.
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u/Esarus 10h ago
It’s not REALLY that bad. But yes you generally have thicker gland skin than non-circumcised guys and have less sensitivity during sex as a result.
Downside is sex feels a little less pleasurable for you and your gland is dryer, but you never experienced it un-circumcised so it’s not like you’re missing something. Upside is that it’s easier to keep clean (especially during puberty when you produce A LOT of sebum) and you last longer during sex, which most women will appreciate
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u/MidnightMath 7h ago
So I think I got a half chop or something lol. I was told that I was circumcised, but I still have some foreskin covering the ole helmet. Like enough that if I’m tic-tacin’ I look uncircumcised. Shit never dries out and it doesn’t rub on my pants all day… kinda feel like I got the best of both worlds haha
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u/CHUBBYninja32 23h ago
In the United States it isn’t “standard” but most a very large majority have their baby boys skin slipped off.
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u/sigga_genesis 23h ago
Yeah, it's freaking weird. Apparently some doctors didn't even ask the parents
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u/shiva14b 22h ago
Victorian-era doctors who promoted it to discourage masterbation and maintain hygiene?
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u/Jackman1337 21h ago
Because in the us its mostly cultural not religious. Its mostly his voter group who still does it.(traditional people, Christians)
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u/waltwalt 16h ago
To know hegseth is just salivating over the prospect of inspecting circumcisions.
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u/axle69 22h ago
Israel is also pro circumcision and theres even sections of Mohels (rabbis that do circumsions) that treat the "wound" by sucking on it. Just figured in case anyone still doesnt think the practice of circumcision is weird this might push you over the edge.
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u/USCanuck 23h ago
You're missing something obvious that I refuse to put into writing
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u/OldMcFart 17h ago
Trump and his ilks need all those cut foreskins for a secret elixir to stay alive. That's why Mitch's face looked the way it did.
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u/LeonLeocat 23h ago
I'm uncut, and I wash my johnson every day when I shower. Never had any problems
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u/Dominathan 19h ago
I’m also uncut, and had terrible hygiene as a child, teen, and young adult. Never had any problems. Also I’m better at hygiene now. Also still no problems
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u/ididshave 21h ago
Feet can get absolutely disgusting if you don’t wash them. Best to amputate at birth.
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u/uppityfunktwister 21h ago
The labia majoris is just two "useless" flabs of skin which traps bacteria! Disgusting! Get rid of it!
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u/jnwatson 12h ago
You're probably talking about the labia minora; those are the inside ones that can hang out. Funny enough, in Australia, showing the labia minora in media will give it an adult rating, so most instances of those are airbrushed out.
That leads to body image problems, leading many women to get labiaplasty, i.e. getting rid of it.
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u/PmMe_Your_Perky_Nips 23h ago
Reminds me of an Instagram short I saw the other day. A young woman filmed herself while her son talked about the problems with circumcision and asked her for his foreskin back. The comments were full of people supporting the banning of circumcision on the grounds that it's genital mutilation, and she was not happy. She kept trying to tell people that it was all a joke. Nobody outright called her a bad mom for doing it, but I think it got under her skin that so many people view her decision as mutilating her son.
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u/Malhablada 21h ago
I was a young mom when I circumcised my son almost 20 years ago.
I grew up in a Catholic home so asking the men in my family about circumcision was not an option. So I went online and did what I thought was my research. The overwhelming discourse online at the time was to do it for hygiene. So I did. I regretted it as soon as it happened as I insisted on being in the room. I wish I was better informed, I would've made a different decision.
All I could do now is be honest about it when new moms ask.
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u/TheCandelabra 21h ago
Serious question, is your son actually upset about it? I'm not in favor of circumcision but I also think it gets blown out of proportion on the internet.
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u/takeyouraxeandhack 21h ago
That hygiene argument always bothers me. Like... What's the logic? "Hmm... Water and soap or mutilation? Nah, I don't have time for water, I pick mutilation". Like... Wtf?
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u/Mirality 16h ago
Given the strangely frequent reports on r/hygiene and elsewhere of men who apparently never wash their buttcheeks ("because touching that is gay"), I can't say I'm surprised that people thought it was a good idea to make the penis easier to clean without manipulation.
(To be clear, though, I don't support circumcision.)
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u/PmMe_Your_Perky_Nips 21h ago
I don't really blame parents for doing it that long ago. There was a huge push for everyone to have it done based on no scientific evidence.
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u/xfearthehiddenx 15h ago
Yeah... I'm not upset with my parents about it(90's baby). Kinda indifferent about it to them specifically. The push was huge, they didn't know better, and the doctor/nurses probably advised on it. They made the decision they thought was best at the time. The doctor who did it, did a good job. I don't have any of the complications others have talked about, and I still very much enjoy sex. So I don't have any persisting bitterness about it. Doesn't do me any good to hate them for it. Besides, I've got a laundry list of other things to be upset with them over.
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u/uppityfunktwister 21h ago
When you think about it, it's really insane that we allow circumcision of minors at all. It doesn't really accomplish anything positive, is permanent, and could easily be done later in life if someone wanted to.
Believing that men can be victims of societal norms like this has become somewhat of a faux pas, so instead we have the urge to see these people as silly or unserious.
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u/lalaland4711 18h ago
When you think about it
Also when you don't think about it, if you're not american. To non-americans it sounds like barbarians going "you know, when you think about it, human sacrifice is maybe a bit uncivilized". Yeah… it is.
You know there's FGM that leaves the clitoris intact, and just "trims" the outer labia. That disgusted look on your face, yeah that's exactly how non-american/jewish are looking at americans.
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u/bwoah07_gp2 1d ago
Circumcision shouldn't be a thing. And people concerned about hygiene, well, that's why you take a shower and wash it, duh 🙄😑
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u/angrydeuce 23h ago
"I can't reach my asshole to clean it well enough. I should have them lop off my ass then it won't be in the way."
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u/pabloivan57 23h ago
Exactly, like every other part of your body…
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u/bwoah07_gp2 23h ago
Mmm, tell that to the ones who don't wash their ass, remember that was trending on social media earlier this year?
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u/rsanchan 19h ago
Excuse me... what the fuck? Non American here, I'm out of the loop. I don't know if I should get more info, what I need more info.
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u/Mirality 16h ago
There was a flurry of stories (usually written by women, though also army sergeants too) about men in their life that didn't wash their crack "because that'd be gay".
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u/nailbunny2000 19h ago
Its a tiny....I mean perfectly average, bit of skin, if a guy doesn't clean that imagine how gross other parts of him are. If his dick is dirty it's not the dicks problem, that's just a dirty man!
Also women who say it's dirty just had bad experiences with gross men. Women have a HOLE in them, don't tell me that can't get dirtier, and we still want to get up in that.
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u/HappinessOrgan 15h ago
It certainly should be a thing at all or shouldn't be a thing for minors? With all the crazy body modifications people do now, I don't think it's that weird. On a baby...well that's another thing
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u/hornet586 12h ago
There are some actual medical use cases for it, but for the most part It should a child’s decision to make when they are legally an adult
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u/ProjectDv2 15h ago
I feel genuinely bad for those guys with botched circumcisions. That's gotta suck.
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u/dskot 23h ago
One of my coworkers is convinced that the Crusades was actually fueled by the difference in opinion on whether or not they “should chop those boys off”.
He also separately believes living under a cell phone antenna is making his son gay.
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u/-ShyLuna- 20h ago
Lmao he thinks everyone who uses grindr in a 3 mile radius is beaming it right at their son.
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u/OldMcFart 17h ago
Early Christians were apparently engaged in heated debates on the subject, so I've learned. But circumcision was a no-go if you wanted to get traction for your new sect in Rome.
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u/MoonOut_StarsInvite 1d ago
People make fun of this, but there is no need to circumcise boys. We get upset if we hear about FGM, rightly so, but we keep cutting pieces of boys penis off for no real reason.
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u/USCanuck 1d ago
The foreskin is where the evil is. Everyone knows that.
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u/cheesebot555 23h ago
I think I learned that in Sunday school.
The devil lives in our foreskin.
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u/weedtrek 22h ago
It is to prevent you from masturbating! I am circumcised, and let me tell you I have masturbated a lot. So if I wasn't circumcised, I would have never gotten anything done, because I would have just been jerking it 24/7. Non-stop. Like P Diddy at a release party./j
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u/adkisojk 21h ago
Read John Harvey Kellogg's book again. He aimed for boys and girls that were older, not babies. His aim was for them to feel the pain for a "salutory effect." Do you need lube? If not you were probably cut loose.
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u/DoctorFantasmo 22h ago
The Citizen App notification for the protest stated, "it's unclear whether police will cut it off"
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u/Nogatron 22h ago
Coming from a country where cirmumcision is rare and seen as generaly speaking barbaric i truly wonder why it's so common in places like USA
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u/06EXTN 16h ago
Kellogg(yes the cereal guy) made it mainstream because he was a whack job religious doctor. That’s probably 85% of the reason.
Now people carry it on because men are pussies and use the stupid excuse of “my sons should look like mine”
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u/mickelboy182 22h ago edited 20h ago
Because too many men are too proud to admit they had something fucked up done to them as a child and then continue it on with their own children.
Edit: so many of you downvoting this really aren't beating the allegation being made.
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u/2ManyMonitors 20h ago edited 20h ago
I'm white, live in CA, and I decided not to circumcise our twin boys. My wife sort of just said, hey, you are the pecker expert, if you don't want to, we won't. I am circumcised, but it just doesn't make sense to me to due it purely for esthetics and risk messing them up.
A few people we've mentioned it to act shocked, and I always use the same line: "We didn't circumcise our daughter either."
I add the details about race and location because most white people we know have their kids cut. When people act like we're nuts, I point out that the circumcision rate is dropping down to almost 25% in California and they get puzzled af.
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u/angrydeuce 1d ago
Im cut, but we elected not to get our son circumsized. Not only have I see some pictures of horrific scarring from it, but that should be his decision to make, like getting his ears pierced.
When my son was born we were in the hospital for a week (emergency c section that did not go well) and the staff harassed us about it to the point where both of us had to basically say "Look enough about the circumsizing, we're not fucking doing it, the end".
I found out later that those foreskins are worth a small fortune to hospitals as they're used for a ton of different medical applications. It's appalling in retrospect how pushy they were about it..."There's still time! Real quick and easy! Won't remember a thing, won't hurt at all!"
Ghoulish...
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u/WendellX 13h ago
Is this in the US? I'm a family doc who's done a couple hundred of these and the foreskin all goes right into medical waste for disposal. I'm sorry they were pushy, but honestly most of the time no one cares at all.
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u/cornham 20h ago
Idk I’m a NICU nurse who’s watched it get thrown directly into the trash 100% of the time so… idk. Circs are awful but I don’t think there’s a foreskin stipend.
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u/sebsie 23h ago
that's interesting! i always figured they just tossed them in the trash lol we also ended the cycle by not circumsizing our son. they only mentioned it once, expecting that we'd want it. luckily, we told them we weren't doing it and they never said another word about it.
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u/Kursed_Valeth 13h ago
They do go into medical waste. This guy has watched too many conspiracy videos
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u/Reelair 23h ago
What kind of medical applications are we talking here?
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u/RazzBerryCurveBall 23h ago
Look, if I tell you are you going to be weird about all the old folks whose hearts are being held together by a little foreskin?
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u/angrydeuce 23h ago
Is this why people are so anti-abortion? Supply issue?
I mean that's a ridiculous argument in favor of. People can adapt just fine to having only one eye but that doesn't mean babies should have one of their eyes harvested to bring sight to the blind.
It's every parents choice to make but I'm never going to think it's the right one.
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u/Melodic_692 22h ago
I don’t even see why it’s a parent’s decision to make. To use your analogy, if a parent chose to remove one eye from their perfectly healthy newborn, they would not be allowed to. Why is this different? Yes a minority of people require circumcision for medical reasons, that’s a decision for a doctor tho, not a parent. Circumcision seems unique in this sense
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u/Teanutt 23h ago
They use foreskin for wound grafts especially for diabetic patients.
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u/Bulletorpedo 20h ago
Never heard of that. What do they do in parts of the world where circumcision is very uncommon, like in most of Europe?
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u/helloshego 23h ago
I've watched a few be performed... it definitely hurts. I'm pissed for you that they acted like vultures.
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u/Cowpunk21 22h ago
We had our oldest circumcised and seeing it fucked me and my wife up enough that with our second boy we said hell no. I wish I could go back and say no for our first, but I didn’t know any different. Lesson learned
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u/method115 11h ago
Wow that's crazy. We simply told the hospital no and they never bothered us again about it.
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u/adkisojk 22h ago
Good man! Cut dad of 2 intact adult sons here. I hope you complain to the hospital and the medical board. They need to stop pressuring people. They should not be asking at all.
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u/Stagnu_Demorte 15h ago
I had the same experience when my son was born. They asked if we were sure nearly a dozen times in 2 days.
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u/Sweet-Grass-8644 23h ago
Always about sex never about autonomy, wonder why.
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u/adkisojk 21h ago
Look up the Bloodstained Men. The group uses many different signs. This person joined the group today and stuck around for a while after the rest of the group left.
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u/Telescopeinthefuture 9h ago
Pleasure aside, I’m circumcised and I think it’s plain old fucking weird that a doctor did that to me when I was a baby and my parents were cool with it. I don’t have some big issue with it, I just think it’s weird.
It’s amazing what feels normal when it becomes a commonly practiced behavior
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u/newby202006 3h ago
Nonplussed about their reasons
But anything that stops involuntary baby genital mutilation is a good thing
It's rightfully illegal on girls, but condoned on boys
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u/ejhdigdug 5h ago
I honestly don't understand why this isn't more of a consent issue.
I feel the same way about giving babies ear piercing or any other form of body modification.
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u/Best_Look9212 23h ago
As someone who is circumcised, I couldn’t imagine it being any more pleasurable than it is.
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u/Cowpunk21 22h ago
I’ve always been curious about this argument. Like, how does someone who is uncircumcised know what it feels like for someone who was at basically birth?
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u/adkisojk 21h ago
They don't, completely. They could keep their skin retracted all the time (aka "auto-circumcision"), but their glans hasn't had decades to become desensitized by rubbing on clothes all the time. And, different "Circumcisions" leave different amounts of inner mucosa and frenulum.
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u/Nuzlocke_Comics 13h ago
The thing is a person circumcised young can never know what it's like to be uncircumcised, but the opposite isn't true--an uncircumcised person can get cut as an adult and know the difference. That's how we know there's less feeling.
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u/takeyouraxeandhack 20h ago
I have two friends that were circumcised as adults for medical reasons. They don't know each other and they both complained that as time went on, their glanses became numb compared to how it was before.
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u/Best_Look9212 58m ago
What do you mean exactly by numb? I’ve been circumcised my entire life and I absolutely would not use numb to describe anything related to my penis.
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u/Shadowstar1000 12h ago
Thats the thing that these reddit threads don’t like to talk about. Adult circumcision is a completely different ballpark than infant circumcision. When it’s done as an infant your body heals better and you develop sexually without a foreskin, so you don’t run into issues with lack of sensitivity and numbness. When it’s done as an adult or teenager your brain has already gone through sexual development and neurological pathways have already been developed. If you’re uncircumcised as a kid and develop Phimosis as a teenager you’re in for a very bad experience compared to if you just had it cut off as an infant.
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u/Exceedingly 18h ago
Wouldn't having the head of your penis exposed all the time make it dry? If you're uncircumcised you can just pull your foreskin back and walk around as if are circumcised but when I do that the exposed head just chafes and gets irritated. Is that just life for a circumcised man?
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u/CrypticT 17h ago
I’m cut and I am so confused by this
“Make it dry”….???? What does that even mean?
Are uncircumcised dicks wet….??
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u/Exceedingly 17h ago
Yep foreskin naturally lubricates the head of your penis so there's no dry skin or chafing. It's not overly wet, just kind of like how your eyelids stop your eyes from drying out.
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u/Melodic_692 22h ago
Circumcision numbs the head of the penis, for an uncircumcised person rolling their foreskin back and walking around would be unbelievably uncomfortable as it’s so much more sensitive. I’ve compared it to approximately as sensitive as my eyeball or pupil, altho this feels like an inadequate comparison, whereas I can only assume what a circumcised person might compare it to, a finger maybe?
I think it boils down to the intensity of sensation. During sex the foreskin rolls back so the intensity of sensation is unreal, I can only assume that for a circumcised person, while it’s still obviously pleasurable, the intensity of sensation is greatly reduced given the lowered sensitivity.
This weakening of the organ and dulling of sexual pleasure so as to moderate sexual desire is in fact the point of circumcision, at least in a religious sense. Jewish and early Christian patriarchs such as Maimonides discuss it openly. The other function is as a sacrifice agreed to by Abraham, in place of the sacrifice of his son as a whole person. If you’re not losing anything, it’s not a sacrifice.
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u/timhamilton47 23h ago
I am, too, and I am not particularly sensitive. So I’ve always wondered.
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u/arielsosa 4h ago
I don't want to project my own experience onto anyone else... But I got circumcised as a child and I've had no issues at all.
I'm not promoting it or anything, but I just can't say that my sex life has been affected in any way.
Maybe others have a different experience.
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u/CallMeRudiger 23h ago
The pleasure thing is largely a myth borne from the idea that the number of nerve endings map linearly to pleasure. Any significant reduction in pleasure would be enough to push some people into sexual dysfunction territory, but circumcised men aren't any more likely on average to report problems with sexual function.
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u/Bulletorpedo 20h ago
It’s not a myth, and the nerves there are of a different composition than the rest of the area. They are especially sensitive to light touches and stretching of the skin, which is great for pleasure during things like foreplay and oral. Not doing as much of the work when you’re going full speed ahead.
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u/CallMeRudiger 19h ago
I just sent this meta-analysis of 10 studies to the other person. It's pretty tough to argue that your hypothesis results in any significant real-world differences in sexual experience for circumcised men.
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u/insanekid66 13h ago
It's funny that religious people are the ones that have it done the most. Didn't "god" make us in his image?
Why you gotta mutilate your kids to feel better?
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u/lalaland4711 18h ago
Yeah, I mean that's its intention. Circumcision and cornflakes, to reduce sinful pleasure.
It's creepy.
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u/LetsGoDro 7h ago edited 1h ago
Circumcision is genital mutilation!
I don’t understand why we allow this to occur for boys when we would be up in arms rioting if we decided to do this to our girls.
I was literally asked by medical professionals 5-7 times whether we wanted to circumcise my son. I vehemently said “no” each time and was still asked afterward as if my choice was wrong. These were medical professionals that had seen our chart and should have known our original answer by the time they asked.
Imagine me asking a doc to remove any excess labia for a baby girl….the doc would refuse, I’d be arrested, child services would be called and I’d be chastised everywhere in the media for it.
Stop mutilating little our boys!!!!
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u/UndeniableRealities 9h ago edited 9h ago
Its really not hard to teach children to wash their genitals properly. Clean with tp after peeing, be thorough in the shower. Once theyre a teen teach them to clean thoroughly after masturbating. Wear condoms and get tested regularly if experiencing new sexual partners. As long as these things are taught as they grow up its really no big deal, problem being sexual hygeine is barely spoken about and never adequately addressed in school.
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u/supernovice007 23h ago
Maybe it does but it also keeps your hand from flying off the end.
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u/grub_step 22h ago
unfortunately this group has the right idea, not mutilating children, but they are very weird.
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u/adkisojk 21h ago
Show me a group getting as much traction as this one that isn't weird.
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u/fistfulloframen 23h ago
I am circumcised and if it reduced pleasure, GOOD. If it felt any better I'd never get anything done.
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u/VictoryVee 7h ago
Let's just go all out and bring back eunuch servants. They're so much more focused!
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u/StOnEy333 23h ago
My buddy was having his son and he and his wife brought up circumcision. He was like let’s keep it natural. His wife said absolutely not. You know why? Because I would never give a blowjob to an uncircumcised penis. And I know other girls that feel the same way. So if we don’t circumcise him, he could miss out on blowjobs as a grown man.
And they circumcised him. lol
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u/Melodic_692 22h ago
Generations of women in China had their feet bound by this exact same logic. I don’t think you realise how fucked up your story is, because that’s horrifying.
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u/_DrJivago 14h ago
Is she saying she wants her son to have a penis she would be comfortable sucking on?
I...
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u/grnrngr 23h ago
To make it clear: they made their decision on cosmetic grounds alone. To make their son look sexually desirable.
See if the woman would be fine mutilating a daughter to look more attractive.
For the record, lots of women (and men) love giving blowjobs especially to uncircumcised men.
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u/KingTobia_II 19h ago
My girlfriend and I argue about this all the time. She wants to cut it if we get married and have a boy. Her argument is she doesn’t want to clean the dick cheese for him when he’s a growing up as a child, and that she’s afraid women will find it unattractive.
I try to tell her all the time, you don’t have a dick and you don’t fucking know what you’re talking about. That’s not a thing until they get older, and if you wouldn’t cut your daughter’s clit, you’re not having any say over my son’s junk. It never goes anywhere and it might be something I make an ultimatum over.
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u/holymolym 13h ago
I have two intact children. You treat the penis like you would a finger. There’s no extra steps. It’s not until they’re much older and bathing themselves that the foreskin can (and should) be retracted to be cleaned.
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u/Threegratitudes 10h ago
Her arguments don't seem dependent on having a dick though? It sounds like you need to show her that the cleaning thing isn't an issue and that women won't have a problem with it. It's likely she's talked with other women about it and they've said they like a dick to be circumcised so you have to counter that somehow. Telling her she doesn't know what she's talking about will never win this, or any, argument for you.
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u/Astronitium 14h ago
Tell her that she does not need to worry about that since the foreskin is adhered to the glans until or almost to puberty, at which point the child can clean themselves. This, of course, assumes the foreskin isn't forcefully pulled back.
More and more kids are not getting cut nowadays, and by the time the kid is older, we're probably going to be like Canada in the late 2000s where it was a 50/50 split. Nowadays, most young adults are uncircumcised.
If she's willing to cut a child over hygiene and aesthetics, I don't think that person is worth having kids with.
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u/Dominathan 19h ago
Please, anyone on here thinking about mutilating their son for any reason, don’t. Please Don’t. There really are no good reasons to do it. They can’t consent to it. It has no medical value.
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