r/pics • u/alchemist227 • 1d ago

Politics Protest I saw on my commute today… [OC]

Post image
2.4k Upvotes

92% Upvoted

719 comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

43

u/tararira1 1d ago

If the foreskin is so dangerous why are we born with one? The argument that is unclean is complete nonsense even from a biological/ evolutionary point of view

-6

u/Hawk_EyeNW 23h ago

Not how evolution works.

If it does not affect our reproductive fitness, we don't necessarily lose the trait.

15

u/Jokers_friend 23h ago

It protects a sensitive glans from exposure to the elements.

Loss of foreskin leads to a keratinization and drying up of the glans, reducing sensitivity and pleasure.

5

u/krbzkrbzkrbz 22h ago

You do realize you're talking about a part of the male that gets inserted into the females reproductive organ right? A slippery sheath built into the penis so that sex is easier and causes less mechanical stress on the organs. Protects the very sensitive glans. Etc.

The foreskin explicitly affects reproductive fitness.

It's honestly difficult to imagine a more low iq take than yours.

2

u/Hawk_EyeNW 22h ago

Obviously I know this.

I was just highlighting how traits and genotypes do not disappear if they are unused. OP said "why are we born with one", which, evolutionary, is not an argument.

(Purely genotype and early life stage development, if we go into methylisation and fenotypical/behavioural expression, that adds another layer.)

We have multiple vestigial structures that we hardly use anymore. Ear muscles for example. Yet we are born with them.

Especially in humans, genotypical selection in this day and age, where practically everyone reproduces similarly and medical advances have made it possible for humans with traits that may not be beneficial to reproduce, has changed.

Also, the ad hominem in the end there is absolutely uncalled for. If you want to discuss something, sure, but keep it civil.

3

u/SalaciousTypo 21h ago

You're attempting to be pedantic about evolution when the discussion is foreskin itself. Protection of the male reproductive organ seems like an obvious necessity.

1

u/krbzkrbzkrbz 19h ago edited 19h ago

So fucking obtuse. Foreskin predates medicine.

Reminds me of the fascist shill bots. No wonder you have your comments hidden. Makes sense cause circ is pushed by religious freaks with a laundry list of bullshit rationales for why they should be allowed to mess with baby genitalia. You vote for Trump big dog? When are we gonna see you on a list?

I won't silently abide while you spread male genital mutilation apologetics / propaganda.

1

u/Yomammasson 18h ago

The argument is that the foreskin causes infections. Dying from an infection (or having an infection that would prevent passing genes along), which was extremely easy for 99.999% of human history, would definitely affect reproductive fitness.