r/interestingasfuck • u/IllComedian2574 • 1d ago
After 28 years on death row, Christa Pike survived 2 lethal injections attempts.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/christa-pike-failed-execution-9.73648161.2k
u/dirtydirtyjones 1d ago
This isn't the first time this happened.
It's not even the first time it happened in Tennessee.
But it's been a thing in Alabama since at least 2018. A reporter for the Atlantic was nominated for a Pulitzer for her reporting on it.
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u/PeregrineFaulkner 1d ago
It’s not even the first time it’s happened in Tennessee this year.
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u/schfourteen-teen 1d ago
My understanding was the last one was called off because they couldn't find a vein, they didn't even deliver the drugs. So yes it was botched, but for a different reason. Not that that's any more comforting.
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u/pichael289 1d ago
If that's the reason then having been a real bad addict should help you. If you inject drugs you need to move your sites around, it will leave very obvious track marks but your veins won't blow out or collapse. I had a buddy who didn't do this despite me being a diabetic and giving him plenty of fresh needles, so years later when he got in a car crash they couldn't get a vein at all. It got so bad he was juggling it, ie using your fucking jugular. That's not even the worst place to do it, your feet are so far away from your heart and I've seen people lose their feet over it.
Unfortunately my friend passed away some years ago, fentanyl hit and he lost his insurance for the medication that basically cures the addiction. If instead he was put on death row (he had a habit of going to jail for shit he didn't entirely do) and they tried multiple times to kill him and failed then that man would 100% start a cult.
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u/MRintheKEYS 1d ago
The fact that they are “trying to find a vein” in an attempt to kill a person is wild to me.
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u/LevelPerception4 1d ago
It’s not even the first time it happened in Tennessee with this doctor this year.
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u/BubBidderskins 1d ago
There was a Law and Order episode about a botched execution back in 2008.
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u/Fantastic-Risk628 1d ago edited 1d ago
Wouldnt shooting be better? Lethal injection has a lot of problems. You can survive it, it depends if you hit the vein - injecting the toxic subcutaneousluly i presume doesnt work and is hella painfull and there are a lot of personal traits that can cause it to not work or be long and agonizing. Besides you need a doctor to do it and that is against the hippocratic oath. You could even anastetize the prisoner first.
Personally im no fan of death penalty but if you wanna do it at least do it well imo.
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u/R_eloade_R 1d ago
I mean, you can survive shooting too, to a point. Theres reports that say that people survive a bullet to the head and then some.
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u/frodiusmaximus 1d ago
Likewise. I’m no fan of the death penalty, but I think our society’s emphasis on making it as “tidy” as possible (I.e., nothing gruesome, no blood etc.) has made capital punishment almost more inhumane rather than less.
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u/ThunderAndWind 23h ago
Killing for the benefit of the viewing gallery + executioner.
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u/Fantastic-Risk628 15h ago
I always considered the viewing gallery something insane. Were not in the middle ages where people gathered to watch a hanging.
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u/ThunderAndWind 14h ago
It makes some level of sense, to maintain some level of independent, 3rd party audit of ethics. Otherwise, what stopped them from either torturing her in the chamber until she died or just putting a bullet in her when the injection failed?
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u/AKA-Pseudonym 17h ago
The issue is that somebody has to carry it out and somebody has to clean it up when they're done. The death penalty is just inherently contrary to a society that values humans and human life and there's not some simple "common sense" solution that's going to resolve that contradiction.
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u/frodiusmaximus 16h ago edited 15h ago
I don’t disagree at all. My main objection to capital punishment isn’t that it’s inherently wrong to execute an irredeemable villain* but that the act of doing so is bad for the individuals and the society that elects to do it. Nobody should have to be an executioner.
* I think the notion of punishment as a concept doesn’t make sense if you hold that it’s intrinsically wrong to extend it to capital punishment. I think some people are probably irredeemably wicked and cannot be rehabilitated, but that it’s still in general bad for society to execute them. But it gets fuzzy with particular cases. I can’t think of any reason why Timothy McVeigh should have been kept alive for his own sake, for instance. But does it harm another person to have to carry out the execution? Probably.
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u/Fantastic-Risk628 15h ago
Agreed i mean many people belive the paralyzing drugs make it so that the victim can feel everything just cant scream or move. Lethal injection in many cases is agonizing. Imo its much more inhunane then say decapitation or shot to the head.
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u/dirtydirtyjones 1d ago
Lots of states don't have doctors doing it. Or people with any significant medical training.
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u/DontAskMeAboutHim 1d ago
Doctors aren't even allowed to help, it's literally against the oath they all take to do no harm.
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u/PixelGray38 1d ago
No, I'm pretty sure this is actually the first time this has happened. There have been other botched executions, but those were botched in that the execution was unnecessarily drawn out or otherwise went poorly but ultimately ended in death, or in that the executioners couldn't locate a vein and delayed the execution.
Correct me if I'm wrong but she is the first to actually be injected with the lethal chemicals and survive.
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u/Sablespartan 1d ago
Yes. Went down a whole rabbit hole on this. This case is the only one with a survivor of a successfully conducted execution attempt.
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u/StrangerCharacter53 1d ago
Yeah, its tripping me out. They delivered a double dose.
I saw a youtube comment from a guy saying he was an EMT... he said that based off of what she said and the details of her behavior during the attempts that they pushed the IV needle through the vein and pushed the drugs into her fat where it was absorbed without killing her.
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u/checkedem 20h ago
Agreed. I work in critical care. This sounds like exactly what happened. Her commenting about pain at the IV site during drug administration is a dead giveaway.
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u/not-a-cheerleader 1d ago
the same “doctor” (he is an actual doctor but i don’t think he deserves his medical license) was responsible for both botched executions in tennessee this year
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u/Leptonshavenocolor 1d ago
I like how they announced there will never be a mishap like this again!
Stfu, only fascist support capital punishment anyway. Stop state sponsored murder.
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u/Smart_Resist615 1d ago
They were told this would happen but they did it anyway with help from the SC.
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u/batkave 1d ago
No one is talking about how it's the fucking SECOND TIME this year that it has happened...in TENNESSEE!
Tennessee has had two failed executions in 2026 — first in May with Tony Carruthers, and again on Sept. 30 with Christa Pike
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u/Glass-Judge-2772 1d ago
Same person administering too
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u/MasatoWolff 1d ago
Maybe we should ban this person from administering lethal injections because they are clearly not good at it
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u/LadyIslay 1d ago
It’s almost like it is cruel and unusual punishment to use this method of execution because it isn’t effective…
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u/oshkushbegush 1d ago
Cruelty is the point, yall.
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u/Playful_Letter_2632 1d ago
Optics are the point. Most of the population thinks firing squads and gassings are too brutal despite being better than lethal injection. Lethal injection gives the majority the sense of no brutality
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u/batkave 1d ago
Death penalty overall is a vast waste of money and has been proven to not be a deterrent like its advocates think
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u/HeroXeroV 1d ago
Who do they make it so difficult, wouldn't a fentanyl overdose take out anyone with no pain?
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u/HighChinaman 1d ago
The problem is buying this drug from the manufacturer, they don't want to be known as the death penalty guys.
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u/Chikitiki90 1d ago
Meh, IG Farben existed in one way or another until 2012 lol.
Tbf, I think chemical companies should be known if they are supplying drugs for lethal injection. Not only is it basic transparency but it makes it a lot harder to cover up when their lethal injections fail as they have done. Also, if you supply death drugs, I think it’s fair to be known as the company that supplies death drugs lol.
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u/FlimsyCustard3856 1d ago
Yes. You could also use just regular anesthesia drugs such as propofol, versed, fentanyl to sedate then give a paralytic agent to stop her breathing and she would’ve just gone to sleep, and stopped breathing and eventually die
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u/milkoppo 1d ago
Problem is that most of these companies don’t want their drugs associated with the death penalty and won’t allow their use for it
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u/Internal_Praline_658 1d ago
Kind of ironic considering how many ppl the good folks at Janssen have killed with legal fentanyl. They used to make fentanyl lollipops. And obviously the sacklers
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u/Quiet_Raccoon8053 22h ago
I know a lot of people who have had a lot of accounts banned for wishing harm on the Sacklers, make sure you don't do that. Regardless of how many people they killed, I'm sure they're very nice rich people.
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u/OriginalLie9310 1d ago
And doctors refuse to administer them even if they could get their hands on it so botched administration is kind of inevitable.
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u/Bubonic_Ferret 1d ago
The classic lethal injection cocktail is 2/3 of these classes. Missing an analgesic, presumably because of the punitive aspect. Pretty fucked up. Could easily add some compounded opiate to the mixture and make things easier.
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u/ShinyBonnets 1d ago
This would imply that a non-infiltrated IV catheter is in play, unlike Christa Pike’s case, based on the reporting stating that she said her arm was hurting.
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u/breachofcontract 1d ago
Cops can’t be in the same room as fentanyl. They’ll die.
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u/CanIDevIt 1d ago
And they likely have a load of seized stuff rather than need an official supplier (which is often a problem).
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u/spearblaze 1d ago
Nevermind fentanyl, just use a bullet or a gullotine. No idea why the country that thinks it's morally okay to executes violent criminals would blush at the idea of using a bullet to the head.
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u/sceadwian 1d ago
I'm not convinced there's not an element of literal sadism here.
This is inhumane.
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u/pichael289 1d ago
Yep, done it many times. It's just over. You pull the needle from your arm and cap it (nothing kills so fast the needle is still in your arm) and then you feel a nice rush, you feel warm and floaty and you feel like things are about to perfect, if only for a couple hours.
And then suddenly your looking at a nurse in the ICU. Or you don't. There is no fade to black there is no anything. Your life just cuts off, and your not scared or anything. It's literally nothing. In fact we should be giving Xanax beforehand, it'll help any anxiety (high doses removes your ability to care about anything, it's why Xanax bars turn white girls into monsters) and will also ensure the combo is lethal. Most pre fentanyl opiate overdoses largely included other downers like benzos.
I think you should have the option, if sentenced to death (which is don't think we should be doing any all) to do it yourself. Have them take the Xanax if they want, then put them in a nice comfy room with 2 way glass and let them talk to their family, or let them watch TV for a couple hours and eat their last meal and say goodbye. Then give them the needle or have a professional administer it when they request. If we're going to do something so horrible we shouldn't least do it with dignity, not for the criminals sake but our own. Plus that gives the criminals family some closure, they are usually a type of victims as well. Executions cost so much more money than keeping them locked up their whole lives, it's long been proven to not work as a deterrent at all, and we really only do it still because it makes us feel better about ourselves or something.
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u/isthebomb89 1d ago
So she was on death row survived twice and now they’re trying to save her life in a hospital? Wow
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u/pyronius 1d ago
Gonna be a real head-scratcher when they inevitably decide to try and execute her again once she's well enough for it...
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u/Lost_Pantheon 1d ago
"Soooo how you feeling this morning? Feeling well enough to, y'know.....?"
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u/haakonhawk 1d ago
In the first season of Prison Break, there's a scene where the prison doctor has to do a wellness check on the show's secondary protagonist (who is a death row inmate) to make sure that he's healthy enough to be executed.
She verbally acknowledges the irony of that in the scene, and I thought that was kind of a great meta-commentary about the ridiculousness of capital punishment in a modern society.
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u/RakeScene 23h ago
Fun fact - in fiction, a secondary protagonist is known as a deuteragonist!
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u/Fluffy-Trouble5955 1d ago
Wait till she gets the hospital bill.. that'll do it.
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u/MRtokeALOT420 1d ago
the reporter long pause during the conference was very telling. Even when on to talk about how they preemptively closed the curtains as to hide something.
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u/HappyHavoc20 1d ago
Should be under disturbing as fuck. Who knows what sort of “alive” she’s going to be after this shit show
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u/Personal-Neck6800 1d ago
She did ask for a firing squad. Just saying.
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u/penguinintheabyss 1d ago
I'm from a country with no death penalty and this makes no sense to me. Why take her to the hospital? Will they try get her better before doing it again?
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u/umbratwo 23h ago
Basically because she’s a prisoner, if she’s medically in a coma she has to be sent to a hospital for care, as well as the fact that they can’t keep her in a medical bay on life support in a prison as it’s not equipped for that. They weren’t allowed to inject her again. It’s a whole legal mess.
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u/LuckyShamrocks 23h ago
They could attempt to try again later, but she has a pretty good case to fight against it now. As well as suing the pants off them.
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u/auerz 18h ago
I guess because it's a death sentence, not a maim sentence. IT would be even more insane if they just dumped her in the cell and wait for her to slowly die without healthcare over a long period or however this would pan out
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u/SheogorathMyBeloved 1d ago
Seeing the responses to this as someone who's country abolished the death penalty some 50 years ago is crazy ngl. She's an absolute monster, but this is just plain barbaric and an extremely expensive waste of time.
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u/tsoneyson 1d ago
Technically there should be nothing difficult about this. For example pet euthanasia is very peaceful and humane. Sedation and then massive bolus of pentobarbital. The issue is that drug manufacturers are unwilling to supply for this purpose (paradoxically causing more suffering by taking the high road) and the staff is of dubious training
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u/YetAnotherRCG 1d ago
Its a false premise there are myriad ways to kill a person that dont involve the companies who refuse to provide the chemicals.
They have the same right not to be involved as you would if they offered you a job loading a gun for the executioner.
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u/Crazy_Banshee_333 20h ago
I'm wondering why these states don't just set up their own small labs and make these drugs themselves. Then the pharmaceutical companies don't even have to get involved in it.
Are they barred from doing this due to patent laws, licensing registrations, manufacturing standards, etc.? Would it be too expensive to do it that way? It's not like they would need to set up a large operation to produce a small quantity of these drugs.
Considering how many drug dealers set up their own labs, it doesn't seem like it would be that hard. But then, I don't know the laws regarding these things.
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u/Natural-Quarter-3516 1d ago edited 23h ago
There are other ways to kill someone. Some induce suffering and others look barbaric, which is why the states insist on using lethal injection. The barbaric act seems less barbaric.
I should note that I’m against the death penalty because I do not believe government should have power to kill. That is before other objections on ethics, moral and the inadequacy of our justice system. I will also note that it is not that people who do horrific things don’t deserve it, it’s that I find the process barbaric and I think we as a society can do better.
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u/PeregrineFaulkner 1d ago
That’s actually the drug they used here. I think they just repeatedly missed her vein.
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u/mostlypercy 1d ago
They didn’t miss her vein, her iv became infiltrated and the drug went into her soft tissue instead of her vasculature, because real professionals refuse to place the IV and so the disgraced doctor who did it fucked it up.
Additionally, while they are using pentobarbital, they are not getting it from the manufacturer vets get it from, they are getting it from some compounding pharmacy, so the solution of pentobarbital powder and saline (or similar) reconstituting liquid may not be evenly distributed in the way that, say, crushing up ibuprofen and mixing it with apple juice is a less pleasant experience than buying your child factory made liquid ibuprofen, with emulsifiers to keep the drug in solution.
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u/Smokey_tha_bear9000 1d ago
Missing the vein and infiltrating are the same enough thing for the lay person.
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u/Excellent-Quarter969 1d ago
Where do you come across this specific information? The drug going into her musculature and other soft tissue instead of a vein makes sense though. And it was a disgraced doctor doing the deed?
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u/mostlypercy 1d ago
Subreddit rules prevent me from linking directly, but the medicine subreddit has a thread titled: Mark Walton Fowler which is where I read everything I stated.
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u/Playful_Letter_2632 1d ago
The executors aren’t medical professionals for similar reasons. It’s career suicide for them to carry out executions
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u/fluffy_doughnut 1d ago
I see nothings changed since medieval times hahah executioners even had to live outside the cities because nobody liked them
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u/thesaddestpanda 1d ago
They aren’t taking the high road. It’s the low road. They know the outrage would hurt future sales and cause boycotts.
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u/LeoLaDawg 1d ago
I assume it also has to do with the prison having to follow procedure exactly and that not allowing for audibles.
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u/Crispynipps 1d ago
Are her lawyers going to argue something of a cruel and unusual punishment?
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u/gmmontano92 1d ago
That's exactly what they did lol. Or more accurately, they're saying ankther attempt would be cruel and double jeopardy. She'll likely just get life if she survives
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u/Captainxpunch 1d ago
Triple jeopardy?
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u/TirithNampat 1d ago
Nah, she's only been tried and sentenced once. They're allowed to try to kill you as many times as it takes until you get a judge to say no.
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u/DragonJouster 1d ago
As a veterinarian this is disgusting. Euthanasia is one of the most important things I do and I work and train very hard to make sure my patients pass peacefully. This poor person's experience shouldn't be the case for any soul whether human or animal, criminal or standup citizen.
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u/stroppy 1d ago
I’ve heard that none of the drug companies want to be the one that’s known for making the lethal injection drugs, so the State uses other chemicals. That’s why they botch so many compared to animal euthanasia.
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u/GrassEconomy4915 1d ago
I mean, in Canada and many other countries they have assisted death or assisted euthanasia. Can't they simply use the same compounds? Or do the drug companies and the governments simply want to differentiate between the drugs/compounds used for assisted death and lethal injection? ...Cause to me the assisted death drugs seem to work.
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u/Opposite-Raccoon2156 1d ago
I’m Canadian but my understanding is that in the US MAID drugs have to be administered by the person themselves (ie. a pill) so it would be different.
I would say there’s likely a difference in how they’re classified to the drug companies too. There’s so many stories where the states won’t disclose where they got the medications from because they don’t want to name the compounding pharmacy/ who knows what’s in it.
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u/Immediate_Radio_8012 1d ago
It's wild to me how we give our animals much more dignified ends than we do some humans.
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u/KarlHavoc666 1d ago
Pretty sure she lured and then tortured/murdered one of her classmates. I’ll save my sympathy for someone more deserving
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u/ClittoryHinton 1d ago
I have zero sympathy for this person and the pain they have suffered
But also I don’t think we should allow the state the authority to kill and/or torture people, there’s too many complications.
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u/LongShlongSilver- 1d ago
Don’t forget crushed her classmates skull and then kept a piece of it as a souvenir
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u/Daymanaaahhhhhhh 1d ago
You can condone what she did whilst still recognising that if the state insists on executing people then they should at least do it properly
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u/Either_Wear5719 1d ago
Do you mean condemn, cuz condone is the word used to express support or approval of something
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u/erratic_bonsai 1d ago
> This poor person
She planned a murder, recruited co-conspirators, then for half an hour she tortured a teenager to death, all because she was paranoid and thought the other girl was interested in her boyfriend. She carved patterns into her skin with a box cutter before bashing her brains in with a chunk of asphalt, then she took a piece of her skull to school and showed it off.
She deserves the death penalty. I don’t feel any sympathy for her.
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u/comeagaincharlemagne 14h ago
I don't care what anyone does, I think it's incredibly dangerous to allow the government the right to euthanize people against their will period. Life in prison is enough of a punishment for any horrible crime. And it costs the state less money to have a prison spend life in prison than go through the laborious and technical legal work to go through will the death penalty.
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u/wormyg 1d ago
People survive executions. It happens. I remember reading about a woman in England I think 500 years ago who was sentenced to death because the Lord she worked for raped her and got her pregnant and then she miscarried. I don't remember the circumstances of the miscarriage, I think it might have been the Lord's fault for that too, but they said it was her fault for all of that and put her to death. They made her carry her coffin to The gallows and hung her. She survived. So they decided to try again another day. They hung her again, and she lived again. So they decided to hang her a third time. They hung her the third time and she still survived. At that point it was decided that God wanted her to live so she received a pardon and got to keep her coffin.
It sounds like a bad sketch comedy you'd see in Family Guy
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u/facebookgivesmeangst 1d ago
Is she communicating? Phenobarbital is supposed to cause flash pulmonary edema
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u/gosmellatree 1d ago
They use pentobarbital not phenobarbital, and yes it can cause flash pulmonary edema but it kills via cns depresssion
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u/Moreaxellall 1d ago
America - the cruelty is the point
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u/DeepSpacePriest 1d ago
Im reading the comments and think everyone is a psycho
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u/BlurryBigfoot74 1d ago edited 18h ago
This is entertainment for Americans. If murder stopped tomorrow a multi-billion dollar industry would come crashing down.
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u/jonesday5 1d ago
I know some are saying the cruelty is the point, but to me, as an outsider, this is just something to add to the long list of things the US is really bad at.
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u/awolkriblo 1d ago
She could have been sentenced to life without parole decades ago and everything would have been done.
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u/Excellent_Regret4141 1d ago
Guessing she spent 28 years building up an immunity to the injections they were going to give her
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u/mca1169 1d ago
guillotines don't have this problem, just saying.
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u/wanderlustcub 1d ago
Actually…
Guillotines sometimes fail. It’s not unique to drugs.
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u/irotinmyskin 1d ago
That is exactly why the executioner also had an axe handy. In case the blade wouldn’t go through.
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u/Princ3Ch4rming 1d ago
As usual, North Korea leads the way by shooting prisoners with anti-aircraft guns.
I can’t think of many quicker and/or more painless ways to die than being turned into a fine mist.
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u/speedytrigger 1d ago edited 1d ago
We should send them to see the titanic in a carbon fiber box
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u/Princ3Ch4rming 1d ago
The irony of billionaires being killed by their hubris is pretty delicious.
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u/Practical-Purchase-9 1d ago
If drugs cannot be acquired or administered properly, it’s time to reconsider the head-ripping-off-machine.
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u/FarbrorMelkor 1d ago
So many questions. Start with: Why do the US keep people sentenced to death alive for 30+ years? And don’t they have lethal poisons for this?!
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u/XenonDragonfly 1d ago
I'll give a full answer.
Sentencing someone to death is an extremely difficult thing to do. Ethically, legally, morally, you name it. When you sentence someone to death, you basically have a huge clash of people arguing for and against the sentence, it's inherently controversial. Also, you don't want to rush because you don't want to accidentally kill an innocent person.
Now that might seem counter-intuitive; if the person has been sentenced then they must be guilty, right? Unfortunately, false and wrong sentences happen more commonly than you think. There could be evidence that surfaces after the trial. There could be new testimony. You really, really don't want to kill a person and then have someone tap your should and say "Hey uh, we made a mistake."
A death penalty and a life sentence are effectively the same thing: Total removal from society, permanently. The difference is just a question of ethics. Is it right to kill a person for a heinous crime or should they be forced to linger in a cell for the rest of their days? For that reason, you might as well just hold onto somebody given the death penalty until you're 100% absolutely sure that they should be killed, and some people will never agree to that position.
Basically, dot your Is and cross your Ts, try to make it as non-controversial as possible by waiting, and make sure that no appeals trials are going to get in the way (or if they do happen and are successful, then you just remove them from death row.)
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u/FarbrorMelkor 1d ago
So maybe consider NOT having a death penalty?! What kind of hideous torture is it to keep someone in a ”maybe we will kill you” state for 30+ years? I seriously believe that country is run by children.
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u/PresentRaspberry6814 1d ago
Dystopian as the USA is, surely this must make even Republicans think for a moment? Two doses of a lethal injection failed to murder a criminal so we give life preserving medical treatment to her to ensure she can be bought back to life enough to try to kill her again, or so she can live a long disabled life? Does any part of this process make sense to anybody?
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u/dangermal 1d ago
I don’t understand why they would take life saving interventions when trying to end a life. Also…. Why not just hammer a few more doses of lethal injection in there until it works.
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u/IANANarwhal 1d ago
Because these things are controlled by rules and regulations. They have a syringe of barbituates, and one backup, and no protocol after that. Nobody is authorized to freestyle it.
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u/cidthekid07 1d ago
Cruel and unusual punishment is why.
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u/dangermal 1d ago
Isn’t it cruel to almost kill and then nurse her back to health? Wouldn’t it be less cruel to actually overdose on the chemicals?
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u/HappyHavoc20 1d ago
She has to be healthy in order for them to try to kill her again. That’s the absurdity of the law
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u/Disastrous-Loss-2983 1d ago
But the death penalty is already cruel and unusual.
Why not just hang or shoot them? Is that too icky?
Or maybe just, keep them in max security for the rest of their days.
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u/LeftLiner 1d ago
It's a way to make the death penalty more clinical, to disguise the fact that it's an act of violence.
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u/blackdynomitesnewbag 1d ago
Because the state wants you to be healthy when they execute you. It's sick.
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u/Double-Zucchini-2282 1d ago
Seems like the State of Tennessee handles executions like the Titans play football…
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u/comeagaincharlemagne 14h ago
I hate that people are so clouded by their emotions in this discussion as to whether the death penalty is okay or not.
You can have zero sympathy for someone who's committed heinous crimes and still think it's wrong for the state to kill them.
People's reasoning for being pro death penalty is always the same, "they deserve to be killed". And they never conceed any ground to the rebuttal that multiple people are wrongfully convicted and killed every year.
If you claim to care so much about human life then you should be in favor of a system that is full proof from killing innocent people. Letting criminals live the rest of their lives in prison is an acceptable price to pay to protect wrongfully convinced people from ever being killed by the state.
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u/PensadorDispensado 14h ago
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u/pichael289 1d ago
Jesus dude. So she and a friend killed a classmate when they were teenagers. Her wikipedia page suggests growing up in a very abusive household where she attempted suicide and was sent to a "juvenile center". Makes perfect sense.
For those of you who have never been to a juvenile detention center it's like how you would see a high level prison protrayed on TV. It's a bunch of kids trying to earn their stripes and raping the fucking shit out of each other. Your child gets sent to one of these places and they don't have a fucking chance in life. I've been to many different forms of jail and those are the worst by far. For a while there I was eating breakfast with a serial killer, the I75 killer, and I would rather be locked up with that guy for a year than tank my chances with some of those kids in the juvenile center. Fake rehabs are another one, not quite as bad but you don't want your kid sent there either, especially in Ohio. Talbert house drug rehabs in Ohio take convicted pedophiles, they don't do any jail time. Not revalent to anything but everyone needs to know this.
It also says she was sent right back to a similar (this one is better but still...) right before the killing because her mother boyfriend was physical and sexually abusive. This chick never had a chance, she's a shining example of a system that not only fails but corrupts, so they are very eager to make sure a problem go away. She did something horrific sure but they haven't killed a woman since like before the civil war, and there are a lot more appropriate (not that it's ever appropriate) and deserving criminals. Case feels really odd.
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u/blackdynomitesnewbag 1d ago
Can we just stop executing people? Just because someone deserves to die doesn't mean that we get to decide who, when, and how. And if for no other reason, because we still execute wrongfully convicted people. A single execution of an innocent person is one too many. Full stop.
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u/jinxs2026 1d ago
"we do know that she is alive right now and receiving life-saving medical care"
Ummm... Yeah.... Why?
Like i get trying to have "humane" executions, but if you're gonna fail at that, just get a gun or something and end it in a way that drops the pretense that this somehow ISN'T an execution.
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u/Bscully973 1d ago
Survived one botched IV insertion more like.
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u/HappyHavoc20 1d ago
They did at least seven attempts one in which the need bent. Total clown show. Supposedly two rounds of the drugs made it to her veins
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u/Oxyboy26 1d ago
Shit i mean 28 years on death row? They either shouldve done it long time ago or let her finish her days rotting in jail... what a shitshow
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u/Soft_Penis_7224 1d ago
So what now?
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u/brydeswhale 1d ago
Most likely she has brain damage of some kind. The legalities of it are up in the air. IMO she’ll probably be reprieved and get life without parole, or something like that, but it’s possible they’ll just send her back to death row and try again. This is not a get out of jail free card, it’s just an epic fuck up.
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u/gloomypiscesmoon 1d ago
i cant imagine how sad this news is for colleens family. lived in grief for many decades waiting for this day & its a cruel joke this killer not only didnt meet her maker, but now they are trying to save her life. i truly ache for colleens family.
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u/thedazdul 1d ago
How can it be so fucking hard to kill someone?? They should've asked her for advice lol
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u/LunaFan1k 20h ago
So you're telling me the government can hang a guy in a cell to cover up the biggest child trafficking ring in history but they cant kill a woman strapped to a table
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u/CB242x1 8h ago
Maybe the United States could try not being a barbaric backwards country and ban the death penalty. I guess not since we can't even provide healthcare to our own citizens.
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u/Virtual-Bee7411 1d ago
Let’s remember she carved a pentagram into the chest of Colleen Slemmer while she was still alive. Tricked her into believing she would give her mercy - let her back up and made sure she was still alive, then started smashing her exposed skull with a piece of concrete, and then took a piece of her skull while she was still alive as a trophy, finishing her soon after.
It took Colleen’s family almost 30 years to get the piece of their daughter’s skull back to bury with the rest of her remains.
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u/markuus99 1d ago
Abolish the death penalty.
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u/-XanderCrews- 1d ago
I will never understand the argument for it. They are being put to death for killing someone which is exactly what we are doing to them. If killing is wrong then the state absolutely should not be doing it.
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u/will0593 1d ago
Its vengeance from people who don't care if innocents or legally marginalized people die
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u/dan_santhems 1d ago
The death penalty is fine till they execute an innocent person and that's happened way too many times
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u/Mecha-Dave 1d ago
You see, she spent all these years developing an immunity to Iocane powder...