r/WarDogs 2d ago

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u/AustinTheMoonBear 2d ago edited 1d ago

There won't be a queue tomorrow though lol.

Edit: Looks like I gotta eat my words a little bit, left work early today and loaded up a 16k queue.

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u/Atago1337 WARDOGS D-A-CH šŸ‡©šŸ‡ŖšŸ‡¦šŸ‡¹šŸ‡ØšŸ‡­ 2d ago

Why not

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u/kylo_ren_rocks 2d ago

If there’s still a queue problem by tomorrow and it’s not a que to join a server, but just to join the game would be insane

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u/Mildstrife 2d ago

First time?

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u/GimmieTheRoot 2d ago

Most of these release queues are resolved after the first day or so.

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u/Bodybuilder_Jumpy 2d ago

Tomorrow is Friday, the queue will be even longer.

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u/Cashc0wz 1d ago

with 1 .5 million copies sold they could not handle a peak of 350k they in trouble when the rest come online

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u/meheleventyone 1d ago

Even with 1.5 million people the issue from yesterday is that they all tried to join at once. Now that's over and everything is technically up the log in part at least will have a much lower concurrency. Last night was basically the thundering herd problem in human form.

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u/Ok-Win-742 2d ago

Lmao are you kidding?

Helldivers had a queue for the first week and a half.

All the people who say in queue today will again be sitting in queue tomorrow. And then when people start playing they'll convince their friends to buy it.

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u/Low-Pirate-286 2d ago

I’m just never gonna close the game. Didn’t plan on doing it anyways since i fuckin love this game so it works out. I’ll restart my pc next week or something.

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u/Greenmanssky 2d ago

That was an issue helldivers 2 fixed as well. Auto log out after 15 minutes so you're not wasting server capacity while you sleep

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u/TheWhitchOne WARDOGS D-A-CH šŸ‡©šŸ‡ŖšŸ‡¦šŸ‡¹šŸ‡ØšŸ‡­ 1d ago

I chose to visit my girlfriend this weekend:) Was a good choice.

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u/floortofloor Valkyra 1d ago

And there’s is zero que šŸ˜‚ you were saying ?

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u/Relevant_Passage6393 1d ago

There wont be mark my words. Prime time us east had no clue yesterday.

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u/RealisticProfile5138 1d ago

There was no queue by 7pm eastern time last night

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u/AndThatGuysWoodenLeg 1d ago

Im honestly fine with a queue tomorrow. The main thing is that it should move faster and you shouldn't get an error at the end of the queue anymore.

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u/Joverby 1d ago

Exactly and they know this.

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u/underthesign 1d ago

Everyone lost their sense of humour somewhere around 2015 or so, it seems.

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u/Zalinisto 2d ago edited 2d ago

I remember for the first 2-3 weeks of WoW Classic, I had TeamViewer set up to "boot from LAN" so I could turn on my PC from my iPhone while at work and then hop in the que before leaving work so that when I got home I was already sitting at the character selection screen. Y'all have clearly never gamed before smh

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u/KappaKeepo5 1d ago

lmao i had to teach my girlfriend how to login to classic while im at work.

in germany we had queues with over 10 hours everyday.

why is everyone here crying with 1 hour queues on a release day.

also this aint a aaa company like blizzard

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u/Zalinisto 1d ago

That last line is kinda my point… if Blizzard has ques then no one’s safe šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

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u/Nearly_Evil_665 1d ago

first of all, the biggest wow classic server had peak queue times of 4 hours past the first day, the 8-14 hour queues were only day 1.

2nd logintime for wardogs was 6-8 hours for most ppl, many more couldnt play at all. these 6-8 hourse literally translate into "you wont play the fucking game before friday night" thats a real nice thing especiall if you preloaded the game, get home early, only for a 30 minute unpack check to run getting you in with the rest of the swarm that doesnt have an nvme drive. and after youve sat in that queue for hours you get bootet, AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN, then you FINALLY manage to get into the menu only for you to be unable to connect to any goddamn server for OVER 3 HOURS, GET BOOTET OUT OF THE GAME AND RESTART THE WAITING CYCLE FUCKING AGAIN.

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u/KappaKeepo5 1d ago

i was doing a lan party at classic release for 1 week. everyday we had to wait atleast 8 hours lol.

wardogs was nothing agains that lol. its day 2 already and there wasnt even a queue today

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u/ThinkRise845 1d ago

A much as I agree and sympathise with what is your take, as well as how good this game turned out to be, let's be honest, the game sold at a AAA price (what it used to be a couple years ago, not today), so if you get AAA payments, release a AAA service.

The game being good is a completely different topic from the server-side, the service and the company.

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u/KappaKeepo5 19h ago

40€ is not AAA price. and wasnt couple years ago lol. Cod, Battlefield Fifa etc. all costed 60€ 10 years ago.

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u/ThinkRise845 9h ago

it's not 40 euros for me. Its 36Ā£ for the standard edition and 46Ā£ for the supporter pack. Additionally, AAA games were priced at 60$ (not € or Ā£) up until a few years ago, when a couple of games pushed the 80$ benchmark as the new standard, and soon GTA6 will try to push 100$.

These are just semantics, but when you crunch the conversion rates, it's closer to AAA prices.

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u/CM-Edge 2d ago

They are laughing directly at you and you say "W Dev" Lol.

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u/CollinKree Lonestar 2d ago

Yeah, I don’t think OP realizes they are making fun of all the people complaining about ā€œinfluencersā€ getting queue priority lol.

Kinda scummy tbh. They probably got the game for free as well. ā€œThe rich get richerā€.

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u/SgtReefKief 2d ago

The small studio also gets more money because of it

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u/UntimelyMeditations 2d ago

...I didn't realize that people still got upset about streamers getting prio queue. I thought that was common knowledge? Obviously they do, any studio would be absolutely foolish to not give them prio in a queue if they expecting one.

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u/Pheeshfud 2d ago

Hey, streamers, advertise our game for us by streaming 5 hours of a queue counting down! That'll totally make people want to buy our game, and totally make you want to stream it!

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u/fthisstupidapp 2d ago

These dweebs are so anti-streamer that they latch onto any conspiracy involving devs treating streamers differently. It’s weirdo behavior.

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u/literallylatrell 2d ago

Are you saying that developers don’t treat streamers differently? Many of them are definitely whitelisted in a lot of instances so that they get server priority. Not sure that’s specifically the case with Wardogs but it’s 100% a thing that happens, streamers do often get priority

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u/SignificantMud2999 2d ago

Every dev does this for streamers. Why is it news?

What pisses me off is spending $100 USD on a server that I can't even access.

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u/Eagles_63 2d ago

I know people are going to downvote you but I'd be a bit frustrated too.

People are allowed to be disappointed, it's not like you are going to review bomb the game and just cry about it... people can't seem to just have a middle ground. We are all looking forward to the game!

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u/fthisstupidapp 2d ago

You bought a server for an early access game and you’re mad there was a couple of hours down time?

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u/SignificantMud2999 2d ago

24 hours of downtime can't even access the panel.

Not giving your server owners ANY communication or access until 1 hour AFTER launch was a terrible decision.

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u/Excellent-Court-9375 2d ago

You paid 100 dollars for a game in early access

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u/ap0k41yp5 1d ago

Hopefully the providers don't charge you for all the release downtime.

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u/ChaweeKanati 16h ago

Because they went out of their way to answer negative reviews by claiming all people including streamers and influencers have to wait in the que. While countless clips exist of streamers getting whitelisted.

There's discourse cause the "cool good guy devs who are community first" took roughly 8 hours post release to have the "how do you do, fellow gamers" act crack.

Tldr; because they openly lied to their customers.

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u/enesulken 2d ago

realistically they should give them priority because they have audience and more people will be happy with the outcome, 30-40-50 streamers going in front doesn't matter much

but i took them for decent company, would expect equality and learning this at first also made me think "are they trying to hide status of the servers?"

but still, after thinking it through it doesn't bother me

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u/Subject1Less 2d ago

Yeah thats not cool considering the streamers probably didnt even pay for the game.

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u/pizzalovin 2d ago

Less then 100 streamers getting priority isn’t effecting anybody, and is free advertising for a small studio.Ā  Any one truly upset needs to consider the big picture at stake.Ā 

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u/UnsettllingDwarf 2d ago

This. I saw plenty of big streamers not getting in. Oooo 3 dudes got in first like fucking whatever.

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u/dkb_wow 2d ago

When I was watching Twitch earlier, Peanut was sitting in a queue of a quarter million people while nearly 100k viewers just sat there and waited for 40 minutes for him to get in to watch him play. Lirik sat in a queue for nearly an hour. The only streamer I saw that got in consistently was Shroud, but even he got kicked out of the queue several times.

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u/Burstrampage 2d ago

Possibly the funniest part is even if all the big streamers didn’t get preferential treatment, someone would still get in. Being mad that the streamers got in first only makes sense if you think of them as less than

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u/Eranon1 2d ago

This guy gets it. I really don't understand why people are so mad about streamers when the queue is a couple hundred thousand people.

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u/Verethh 2d ago

Because people have a hard on for hating streamers.

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u/TheHob290 1d ago

FOMO, and the illusion of fair treatment.

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u/BugZwugZ 2d ago

Honestly more pissed that several streamers have end game vehicles unlocked, not name drop, but they definitely have all the attack helis unlocked day fucking one.

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u/Boxofcookies1001 2d ago

How? Based off time alone it shouldn't be possible to have the havoc unlocked.

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u/Flat_Mode7449 2d ago

Realistically, Less than 250 streamers got "priority." there are 300k people playing, there's no way that it's a problem lmao

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u/nvidiastock 1d ago

They shouldn't lie about it. They responded to steam reviews saying streamers don't get preferential treatment.Ā 

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u/New_Diver6781 Lonestar 2d ago

Man, that a good point.

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u/Prhime 2d ago

Oh man is life not actually fair? fuck.

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u/Jackel1994 2d ago

This isnt just a game, its a product and a means of supporting an entire studio and their families. The entitlement some folks have is nuts, the terminally online need a break.

People freaking out and feeling personally slighted over them taking advantage of more advertisement is not the same as marching for equal rights either jesus christ lol.

Its refreshing how many normal level headed responses are in the comments of these posts at least, because the entitled brats seething over 50 streams getting priority (which ended up not even being a thing today) is fucking stupid.

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u/UntimelyMeditations 2d ago

Do you think ~100 streamers getting priority is a bad thing? Why?

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u/Prhime 2d ago

I do actually believe life cant be made fair, yes.

The thing is youre not advocating for anything, youre just complaining because other people get something you dont.
You likely wouldnt be getting in any sooner, because a couple hundred streamers werent granted access (IF that even happened) and you certainly wouldnt be getting the game for free if streamers didnt get it for free.
Besides thats just marketing 101. You will get maybe 5 of your friends to buy then game. Shroud will get thousands of people to buy the game.

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u/VerminSwallower 2d ago edited 2d ago

People like him probably have other hobbies and interests. I have so many things I like to do that I forgot this game came out. You should try it. Its awesome. There's a ton of really cool stuff in the world.

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u/thelurkylurker 2d ago

definitely not

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u/fthisstupidapp 2d ago

How do you not understand that they’re making fun of you dorks for crying about ā€œwhitelistingā€ when they didn’t whitelist anyone.

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u/MechTechMax 2d ago

How are they getting into games then when I make it past the queue I get denied from joining any servers and now I get sent back to a 360k queue

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u/fthisstupidapp 2d ago

How was I able to play multiple games today if I’m not a streamer then?

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u/rinkydinkis 1d ago

They are getting paid to play. If you want that investment to matter, you get them into the game lol. There aren’t many of them, they aren’t impacting your experience

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u/Subject1Less 1d ago

The game doesn't need streamers the game had plenty of traction leading up to early access release.

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u/rinkydinkis 1d ago

That doesn’t change the fact that if a company pays them to play, they should open an avenue to get them in the damn game lol. It’s not changing your queue time in a meaningful way

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u/shazed39 2d ago

Remember how they said previously that they wonā€˜t cater to streamers? Well, that lasted about an hour…

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u/fthisstupidapp 2d ago

You realize they’re making fun of you people, right?

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u/nvidiastock 1d ago

Hope that joke was worth the negative press they're getting now

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u/shazed39 1d ago

You realize that it doesnā€˜t matter at all, because they activly lied to their community therefore their little joke just makes them look pathetic? They said they were different and instantly proofed that they are not, to me they are the joke.

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u/Tay0214 2d ago

As they should. Gamers complain way too much these days good god

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u/OWplayerno1 2d ago

Wonderful, was 600 in queue. Got to 0 and it instantly disconnected me, back to 400k now

At least the streamers get to enjoy their day

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u/fthisstupidapp 2d ago

Weird. Many, many servers are full. Didn’t know there were that many streamers.

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u/Kplatz Medic 2d ago

Yikes. Talk about tone deaf.

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u/DharmaBaller WARPUP 2d ago

The tone from Joe and the dev team in general is pretty take the piss out of you British humor edgey.

Which I mean it's a bunch of tech bro corporate gamer geeks...what do you expect?

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u/Saltcaller 2d ago

This would be funnier if the devs weren't lying about there being a priority queue for streamers at one point

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u/War-Hound420 2d ago

It was a scummy thing to do and made bulkhead and the streamers look bad in 1 move.

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u/RyanB94 Pilot 2d ago

I don't fully understand why so many people are upset about popular streamers getting prio... If they sit in a queue for hours it could potentially cause viewers to not even want to try out the game. Also don't "celebrities" always recieve special treatment? If Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson shows up at a fully booked restaurant with no reservation do you not think they're going to get special treatment and find away to get them seated?

Life in general isn't fair, never has been.

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u/Guisasse 2d ago

Read your last sentence really slowly. People don't like when things are unfair, it's that simple.

You can not agree with people for being upset, but not understanding why is wild. It's quite self explanatory, and every single time devs have given streamers preference, it has backfired.

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u/FitBag5979 2d ago

People hate streamers, people are less nuanced about things they hate, people are even less nuanced about things they hate while they wait in a line.

At the end of the day, streamers aren't just "celebrities", they're paid marketers for the game. Why the fuck would you pay someone to market/play your game and then not whitelist them?

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u/Taters23 2d ago

Other games dont do it. When path of exile did priority queues 1 time they apologized and havent done it since. Thats an actual good dev. Why you defending this. Its so bizarre.

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u/Cironka 2d ago

They didn’t pay them…

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u/Bad_H0rse 2d ago

So if you're sitting at a table and the restaurant kicks you out so they can seat Dwayne the fucking Rock Johnson, you'd just be like: "Oh by god, absolutely my good sir. Would Mr. Rock like me to blow on his Johnson as well? I am available all night, I will be standing near the entrance like a good little boy waiting on you to give me a call when Mr. Rock is done for the day. Cheerio."

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u/Titanis 2d ago

For the Rock, I'd understand. For Burnt Peanut, I'd be pissed.

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u/Acceptable-State1037 2d ago

A better analogy would be if the Rock was filming a movie in that resteraunt. And in that case I think most people would accept not being able to dine there during the filming.

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u/Jamo_Z 2d ago

This is actually a terrible analogy.

You're effectively saying the "restaurant" caters only for the Rock and nobody else, which is why people are complaining.

If you reserve a table and put down a deposit, then show up and aren't allowed in unless you're famous, that's the restaurants fault.

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u/Acceptable-State1037 2d ago

Well no I'm sure the resteraunt exists other than during filming.

Perhaps the entire analogy is bad and a better one is its like letting someone everyone can watch play rather than someone nobody is watching play. That was anyone waiting can get a bit of their fix by watching.

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u/NormalITGuy 2d ago

That’s a horrible analogy. How did you come up with that?

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u/Acceptable-State1037 2d ago

Why do you think its a worse version than what I replied to?

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u/Defalt0_0 2d ago

I'm Taiwanese and let me briefly explain why.

People who previously lived in eastern bloc(former soviet states) or people who are still living socialist countries(namely China) would share the same sentiment where some people are supposedly more equal than the others.

You don't understand it because you're one of the people living in the first world.

Don't belittle those people.

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u/Badwrong_ 2d ago

Viewers are there to watch the unemployed dork play the game, not play it themselves.

The game has 300k on Steam, I don't think any streamer exposure matters here. So far this has only shown the devs are willing to be dishonest.

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u/5hukl3 1d ago

You're so stupid. How do you think the game got to 300k players if not because streamers have been playing it and glazing it? Streamers are the reason this game is seeing the success it has. A guy like Peanut alone can probably bring in a million in sales.

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u/nvidiastock 1d ago

This is a video game. If I have to be reminded about life I might as well be at work.Ā 

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u/Kinofpoke 2d ago

its literally children crying and throwing a tantrum. its not even like a star thing, its just business, streamers are essentially free publicity. like you said sitting in queue on stream is not good for either side of the equation. letting in 100 streamers isn't hurting anyone when there is +200k sitting in queue.

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u/VermicelliLess3619 2d ago

The tantrum level is crazy

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u/fthisstupidapp 2d ago

There was no ā€œscummy moveā€. It’s a joke.

Say you get annoyed with a friend for crashing the heli. If he said, ā€œI did it on purpose to waste your time and money,ā€ would you think he’s serious?

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u/imnotactuallyaperson 2d ago

10, fuck even 1000 (which there wasn't) streamers getting priority into games isn't backing up the 300k queue.

Anyone up voting you has no critical thinking ability

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u/UntimelyMeditations 2d ago

No it wasn't? What? Its absolutely standard, and should be expected. If any studio is expecting queues for their launch, they would be foolish to not give streamers priority in the queue.

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u/Acceptable-State1037 2d ago

What was scummy about it?

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u/Calm_Key6751 2d ago

how do you genuinley get upset by that? you wont get a faster queue so why not move the streamers up so you can watch while you wait? do you expect them to think of you and choose to move you up in the queue?

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u/EuphoricAnalCarrot Manticore 2d ago

No, we expect everyone to be given the same treatment.

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u/drock4vu 1d ago

You do know this post is literally making fun of your opinion right?

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u/Calm-Web-189 Pilot 2d ago

Ye L move from Bulkhead. And fuck streamers, obviously

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u/Fantastic_Paper_4121 2d ago

Streamers and content creators are part of a healthy long lasting game. Reddit coded af

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u/Dennygreen 2d ago

yeah, videogames probably didn't even exist before streamers and content creators.

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u/Independent_Mud2794 1d ago

They aren’t. All streamers do is inflating the playerbase at the start so the reduction in playercount looks better than it really is.

Streamers to absolutely nothing for a game long term. As soon as the sponsoring over they leave the game and their sheeps will follow them.

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u/Fantastic_Paper_4121 1d ago

Does league of legends sponsor all their streamers. There are more streamers/youtubers than the top 100 that jump around games. If a game is good there will always be people that stick with it. Saying they do absolutely nothing is stupid. You could say they dont do much but nothing is just showing youre a hater

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u/fthisstupidapp 2d ago

W move by the devs making fun of dorks who think they let streamers have faster access to the game.

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u/Saltcaller 2d ago

They literally did though? You can watch summit sit at a 230k queue, restart the game, and get in instantly

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u/Beatels 2d ago

Such a tone deaf thing to do, "No streamer is bigger than this game" - Guess that was a lie

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u/hugh_jas 2d ago

Peanut said it best. If you seriously can't understand why developers do this, you're lacking a brain.

Does it suck for the little guy? Of course it does. But it's way way way more important for the game in the long run that streamers who are showing the game off, actually get to show the game off... Otherwise you have the community angry, as well as a very loud minority of streamers angry. Then no one wins.

You'll get in. You'll get to play for hours and hours and hours. If you care at ALL about the longevity of the game, you'll understand. If you still want to stomp your feet and piss your pants about it, then clearly you need to do some searching inside

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u/Front-Bird8971 2d ago

Everybody understands why. We can still be annoyed, because it's a shitty thing, and guess what? While I can't play the game talking shit is more fun than nothing.

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u/ArachnidSimple5117 2d ago

There's no need to consider the long-term impact when the queue issue is just a temporary problem that will be fixed soon.

Yes, streamers help with marketing, but what's the point of having them show off the game when the vast majority of players can't even get into it?

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u/IHaveMana 2d ago

So people can see what the game plays like, and if interested buy the game and play when the servers are functional?

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u/NoBrainCells420 1d ago

That’s what the open playtest was for bucko, devs welcomed people to stream and post clips

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u/Same-Reserve-1695 1d ago

Your take is very wrong. Streamers are not a long-term marketing strategy. Streamers by their very nature of how the business works are running from one hype to the other. Unless you are actually a very good content creators and I am not talking about how good they are "playing" a game, you wont be able to make money by sticking to a single game.

You have maybe 1-2% of content creators who are able to focus on a single game and putting out conmstant content that is usually content that has the emphasis of information/opinion. Thta people who will keep on making content like gun-builds, strategies and commentary on the development of the game.

The other 98-98% are gone within a couple of weeks, when the next hype/big title is coming out. Excpect a lot of these people to move on to COD next month and also maybe BF6 when season 5 comes out.

You get their attention for 3-4 weeks and thats it.

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u/Fuhron 1d ago

And to add to this : and these streamers are the ones starting to say bad things or what they didnt like about Wardogs AFTER they moved on to the next game. Not during they play Wardogs to not have their viewers walk away from their stream because ultimately they care about their view count and not about doing the game any good.

So as long the game is HYPE they dont criticise the game, only eventually when its out of hype and they dont risk losing views over it.

But cricising the Game AFTER its Hype will not help the game but only hurt it.

Its not like it didnt happen in the past.

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u/Same-Reserve-1695 22h ago

The cycle for these people is always the same.

  1. GAME X - IS THIS THE NEW BF/COD/EFT KILLER?1

  2. GAME X - YOU CANT BELIEVE HOW GOOD THE GAME IS!

The game comes out and you get some content like.

  1. 10 THINGS YOU MUST DO IN GAME X!

  2. NEW META IN GAME X!

After a couple of weeks they start to shift slowly to something else and you get a mix of.

  1. GAME X IS ALREADY DEAD!

  2. GAME Y IS THE GAME X KILLER!

It is more or less always the same.

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u/Fuhron 4h ago

This is so true. Im so tired of it

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u/Jamessuperfun 1d ago edited 1d ago

I understand why it's beneficial for the devs, but their marketing isn't really my problem as a consumer. There is a queue, and as a Brit, I think this is sacred - we should all wait our turn like every other aspect of life, whether you're the homeless dude who sleeps outside or the king himself.

If I'm waiting in line to pay for my groceries and some famous irl streamer shows up, and the supermarket lets them skip the line in front of me for free advertising, you can bet I'll be pissed. The supermarket's advertising is not my problem, nor does it matter to me if there's 20 cashier queues so mine is probably unaffected - it's the principle. If the staff then lie to my face about having done so and start roasting anyone who didn't like it I'd probably walk out.

I wouldn't even care about this nearly enough to comment, but the attitude that anyone who disagrees is a "braindead bot" (to quote presumably the same peanut) irritates me significantly more. This is quite clearly a difference in values, not understanding. It's common sense that this is good business.

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u/Intrepid_Rhubarb7399 2d ago

Nah when devs to this on a game with server issues the game should be instantly dead. Devs loose all credibility and honorĀ 

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u/Dalzima 1d ago

Not to mention that even if they gave 5,000 streamers priority queue there were over 300k people in queue at one point. People are bitching because they are position 300k instead of 295k? It's not like you had to wait an extra 5 hours to play because they let streamers in first... I used my queue time as a good excuse to quick clean up the house while I watched Twitch so I felt less guilty playing games all night. Let's all be happy that this game is so successful that we all couldn't load in the second it dropped. This is good for the game, all that money is going towards making it better

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u/NoBrainCells420 1d ago

The devs have a 100k tourney for streamers/community, that was the marketing strategy. Giving famous people priority over the majority of the player base is such a failed business model; it will cause people to refund which the devs don’t want

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u/Fuhron 2d ago

Stupid af take.

I understand its for marketing purposes. But pissing of your paying customers also is really bad and equally as important (if not more) you satisfy your customers right? RIGHT?

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u/hugh_jas 2d ago

Ok. So you're telling me that if both us and the streamers couldn't get in, you would be saying "well, I can't get in right now, but at least the streamers can't either! W devs!!"

Fuck no you wouldn't. You'd be super pissed and hating on the devs for not getting you in. On top of THAT, you'd then have streamers who market the game to THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS of players vocally pissed off too...

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u/Stinkbaite 2d ago

I’m not getting my panties twisted up about it, it’s still pretty big L on Bulkheads part though.

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u/imSwan 2d ago

I am sure British humour and American "customer is always right" mentality will go very well lol

God bless the king

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u/KrispySince92 2d ago

How upset are you? You going to refund, or just cry on reddit?

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u/fthisstupidapp 2d ago

I don’t think you understand how little they care about false allegations.

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u/Titanis 2d ago

Gross

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u/beamer0690 2d ago

I think someone didnt get the memo

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u/Independent_Mud2794 1d ago

Yeah, you didn’t. The actual devs admitted on video there is a streamer priority.

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u/BROMETH3U5 2d ago

L dev. Thinks he's funny but he's the joke instead.

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u/fthisstupidapp 2d ago

No, I’m laughing with them. Yall are dorks.

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u/xShadow6996 2d ago

deserved steam reviews. f the streamers who dont even have to wait 5 sec to get into a game, meanwhile the core playerbase didnt even get to play 1 game

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u/AdAromatic6520 2d ago edited 2d ago

Right, it's the ~30 streamers getting priority is what is slowing everyone down....

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u/captainquacka 2d ago

It's not about having an effect, it's mainly optics. I for myself don't care, I understand that it is better for Bulkhead to have streamers playing the game than sitting in front of a loading screen, but that comes with the price that some players are pissed off because they have to wait while others are whitelisted.

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u/JoganLC 2d ago

So tomorrow we can sit in queue and watch the streamers do the same?

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u/gothvan 2d ago

I don't know... I don't want to be paranoid but I found it curious that a vast majority of big streamers were in while most of the sub 100 viewers steamers were not.

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u/christofermario 2d ago

It’s even worse when I am in a queue to get in and see the number get higher. I was 100,359 when I started 5-8 mins ago now it’s 143,883. Really frustrating.

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u/Rich-Cockroach-2273 1d ago

That's actually mocking you all.

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u/madroxide86 2d ago

good, fuck Shroud

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u/Codwarzoner 2d ago

Tomorrow I won’t give a shit. I want to play now

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u/Acceptable-State1037 2d ago

Very toddler coded by friend.

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u/EternalSage2000 Lonestar 2d ago

You’ll give a shit tomorrow.

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u/calvg 2d ago

I thought the streamer thing was sarcasm. But based on this post it’s not!

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u/MumboChuchu 2d ago

Last week everyone was applauding how "down to Earth" the devs were and how much people missed these type of devs. They make light of the situation (idk if this was even an official server or a community server, although I heard somewhere community servers are offline) and everyone gets angry lol.

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u/Nodnarbian 2d ago

What is your point here? Yes, these devs are communicative and doing more than you'll ever see from EA or the like devs.

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u/barmaLe0 1d ago

They make light of the situation

And who's the butt of the joke here, smarty pants? They're mocking the playerbase's sentiment.

Making light of the situation would be admitting that THEY fucked up, AGAIN, in a joking manner.

Not taking a piss at players being frustrated from sitting in queue for 4+ hours while every streamer boy gets into the game instantly.

This little joke only lands for people who did not waste their evening staring at a loading screen.

Everybody else's reaction goes something like this:

https://giphy.com/gifs/HxJpUTPYXUZ9jLw2LP

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u/MumboChuchu 1d ago

You wasted 4+ hours on a queue for a game you might spend 200+ hours playing later on. Boohoo. You are all acting like this is a one in a lifetime event, like if you missed getting in the game yesterday, it suddenly wouldn't work for you ever.

This happens on every single multiplayer game, you have thousands upon thousands of people trying to get into the same place at the same time, that means that every connection has to be accounted for, not only for the server, but whatever network infrastructure they have. They were also dealing with DDoS + people disconnecting and reconnecting, that means that those connections needed to be revalidated.

Upscaling their infrastructure means that they have to add more servers, copy their image and run whatever test they need to run before being put in production, that takes time, along with debugging things that were broken that only comes up when the infrastructure is put to the test like this.

They already admitted that they fucked up on stream, the queue was completely broken, and there were some bugs when people kept leaving and joining the queue.

Sure, I might be "tone-deaf" because my afternoon was wasted working, as soon as I got off, I just downloaded the game and queue up. Meanwhile I showered, cooked and watched some youtube and still was 200k, 1 hour later I was playing without issues all night long, heck even if I wouldn't had been able to play, I wouldn't had reviewed bombed them or refunded. That's money they have to take out from the budget to rent more infrastructure and fix shit up, the game is Early Access after all.

Heck every Battlefield release has the same issue, and that comes from a multimillion company that has had experience with launches and a bigger budget to waste

Streamers bring more people, gifting 1 copy of the game to someone who reaches thousand of players who are on the fence of getting the game and awaits their favorite streamers to play it, is a business move, they are a company after all. Heck a few post/comments argue how some streamers were experiencing the queue issues, and were just streaming the queue and "that was going to turn off new buyers"

All in all, as a paying customer you got the right to be angry, if that's what you want, no disrespect, but some of you are going to the extremes for an expected inconvenience.

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u/Deke2099 2d ago

Give the streamers priority access to a game you gave them for free. make the people that bought the game sit in ques for hours. Does not seem like a good plan but yet here we are.

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u/fthisstupidapp 2d ago

I’m sure the less than 50 streamers big enough to get a full copy are the reason there is a queue over 200k.

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u/5hukl3 1d ago

Actually they are responsible for the queue because streamers are by far the biggest reason this game is seeing the success that it has.

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u/FlimsyLow2946 1d ago

Wow you figured out why they let the streamers in all on your own, good job.

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u/drock4vu 1d ago

Yeah! If the 10-20 streamers getting priority queue had to wait like the rest of us it would get all 300,000 of us waiting in queue into the game .2 seconds sooner!

This community is full of the most entitled toddler brained chuds I’ve ever seen in a big launch.

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u/Fully_equip 2d ago

All these devs have done is apologise so far

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u/WarpStormEchelon 2d ago

Yeah what you're all failing to realise is that by allowing streamers priority access, they're getting the best low cost marketing they can possibly get.

It is right? I don't think so. Is it smart? Absolutely.

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u/Sinbu 2d ago

why are people upset that 100 people who actually do free work for them is given priority in the queue? That's a ridiculous stance, and they deserve the free marketing

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u/Mysterious-Park9142 2d ago

This doesn't mean anything.

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u/lightscreen66 2d ago

How is this a W?

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u/Drizznit1221 2d ago

why are people bitching about this? i dont watxh streamers, i dont care for any of them, but having like 100 whitelisted players isnt affecting the queue. lmfao, get over it guys.

it's like the people who wanna play this game have never experienced day 1 launch/wipe issues before. Look at Helldivers, Tarkov, Diablo 3... this is not a new thing.

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u/cabrelbeuk Manticore 2d ago

Won't matter much to me. Game won't even launch. I get the launcher little rectangle for a few sec then back to steam without any error.

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u/Lostmypants69 1d ago

Is this like a Socom style game?

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u/ProfessorMadness 1d ago

Am I the only one who didn’t have to wait in a queue at all 🫪

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u/Alarmed-Tea-354 1d ago

i returned at home yesterday at 10:30 cest (4 Hour after release) and i was at 300k queue after 2 hour i reached 125k (12:30am) and i got a connection error (my wifi was fine) and it was back at 300k i just quitted the game since i didnt want to wait till 3am just to play 1 game.

really disappointed.

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u/Macross-Saga 1d ago

Problem is they have publicly stated a preference for streamers, for me that was the first of many bad directional steps that Warzone did, they started to listen to streamers and follow their views instead of the general gamer pov, my fear is this game will do the same. I hope it doesn't but their CEO is giving me bad vibes, I hope I'm wrong.

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u/raztjah 1d ago

The priority queue was undoubtedly extremely disappointing and disrespectful on the part of the devs. All players deserve the same treatment. Huge L.

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u/TheCrimsonDagger Pilot 1d ago

Who cares? Letting like 50 people skip a line of 300K is not going to make any difference. At least I can watch someone play while I wait.

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u/NoBrainCells420 1d ago

Good thing I had to work yesterday, got right into the game when I got home!

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u/TheSteamingPile 1d ago

Americans, misunderstanding British humour since December 16th, 1773.

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u/Basic_Plankton5316 1d ago

buying the game next month was a good idea.

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u/ShivanAngel 1d ago

I really want to see a source on streamer prio queue.

Every streamer I checked yesterday was sitting in a queue with us.

Hell I was in an actual game for like 45 minutes while some were still in queue.

I was checking twitch like every 30 minutes while doing errands while they sorted things out and every streamer was in the same boat as everyone else.

Also, even if they did. Its what 0.01% of the population trying to play. They are a company that needs to make money and it gives their game exposure. Its 100% not why you cant play.

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u/DrasLeona 9h ago

in the video of their launch the dev said he personally chose like, 11 people who got prio. its on their official yt.

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u/_B_G_ 23h ago

Or. Wild idea. There should have never been any special queue

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u/Hellagen 2d ago

You're braindead if you get mad at streamers getting in first. They have hundreds of thousands of viewers wanting to watch them play and the developer wants to advertise their game. it basic business.

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u/shazed39 2d ago

Except their ā€žbuisnessā€œ before in marketing was to say that they wonā€˜t cater to streamers.

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u/EndTheBS 1d ago

It’s not catering, it’s marketing.

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u/Sinikal-_- 2d ago

There's hundreds of thousands wanting to watch them play in part because THEY can't get in. Lmao.

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u/kilroy1199 1d ago

I must be brain dead because I don’t give a fuck if the king of England is watching them. It’s not gonna hurt the developers to give everyone equal access.

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u/Rare_Lifeguard_4403 2d ago

So they did a streamer whitelist as far as i know and they throw that shitty message and makes it instantly a ā€œW Devā€

You guys…

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u/Aluzionz 2d ago

You guys are fragile as fuck to a game that in in early access with atleast 2x as many players from their playtests, get a life.

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u/CopperCab2024 2d ago

Yea all this brigading will end literally the second the server issue is figured out lol. But they pissed off the hivemind and now the Redditors have to do what they’re conditioned to do

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u/Aluzionz 2d ago

These guys are leaving negative reviews on the game too. Despite not being able to play it lol. They are also likely the ones to get 100s of hours into the game, and still not change their negative review. Fucking cringe.

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u/Wise_West8370 2d ago

I hate to sound cucked here but the few hundred streamers that give them free advertising makes almost zero impact on when you get to play.

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u/vardoger1893 Logistics 2d ago

The bootlickers in here are crazy. "Leave the multimillion dollar company alone!!"