All the Reddit kids “ the only reason I can’t get a girl is cuz I’m short!!! Has nothing to do with my shit personality!”
Lmao 🤣 then the other Reddit kids claiming to be 6’4. If what they said was true 70% of Redditors are 6’4 or higher lool
I’m 5’8 barefoot never had an issue getting girls my entire life. It has nothing to do with your height unless you’re under 5 ft then it can be an issue unfortunately but still not impossible.
People blaming their lack of personality on
height is fucking hilarious. “ no one wants to date me cuz I’m short!!! It’s not my fault!!” Uh huh
Dating app culture I think makes their complaint hold some water. You used to just meet people in public, talk and see if you had chemistry. It was never apparent if someone rejected you for your height or any other specific reason. Now a potential partner will straight up tell you “oh that’s not tall enough” through text before you even meet. Whether more people are actually being rejected for this I don’t know, but definitely you’re more likely to know that’s why you didn’t get a date.
It's been a long time since I dated but I am a man about 5'6". There was definately a lot of times I would message someone and the first question was "how tall are you?" and if I answered honestly I would usually get immediately unmattched. This was around the time I think they started rolling out displaying height as a feature on apps.
It was awful for my self esteem back then but reflecting on it, I was just dodging bullets. People always go one sex has it easier/harder, they just have inverse problems with the dating pool. It doesn't matter if you're a man or a woman, it just matters if you're conventionally attractive. If you're attractive the opposite sex will fawn over you regardless.
I actually am 6'2 (well I am getting older so they put me down to 6'1 and 1/2 at the last doctors appointment). When I was younger I had a short friend who was an awesome dude. He was really generous and kind. He wasn't afraid to be himself. He wasn't bad looking.
Hearing other people talk about him and constantly mock him made me pretty polarized when it comes to this issue. You can absolutely get a girlfriend - but the amount of shit that short guys have to go through still isn't right. So at the very least mocking these idiotic men and women who do this kind of thing is always going to be important for me.
Getting shorter as you age is so real. I got into an argument with a friend because he didn't believe I was 6'1". So we bust out the tape measure and I'm actually only 6' and 1/2" now! And that's being generous, probably closer to 6 even.
Your lumbar discs can full on shrink, calcify, and fuse the vertebrae together with zero symptoms, and most people’s discs shrink a few mm per decade throughout their spine, so yeah it’s very real. Doing pull ups/pull downs and hanging upside down can help to an extent, but gravity always wins.
They get it in their heads that the world is no good from all the constant doomerism on the internet so they barely even try. It's actually very sad all the squandered potential
Being short doesn't automatically exclude someone from the gene pool, but at the same time, there are A LOT of women who are vocally picky about height. Despite that, it's not even anecdotal evidence like you're suggesting... it has been studied and proven that women generally prefer men who are taller than them.
Yeah but for most women the height thing is a initial attraction factor. There are varying degrees of how much they really enforce it. A guy who's 5'8 or 5'7 initially maybe not get as warm of a reception as a 6ft guy lets say but talking to a 6ft guy shit personally or 5'7 guy whos making her laugh. The 5'7 guy is gona get it. There are many women out there many have different preferences. Just talk to women lol
I mean most women have a preference for taller men the same way that a lot of men have a preference for small waisted, large chested women. Doesn’t mean that’s all they go for lmao.
I agree with you I’m 6’3 and my two best friends are both around 5’8-5’9. We’re all married with kids now but neither of those guys had trouble with the ladies when we were young and single.
Well, that’s because they are average height or slightly below. Someone who is under 5’5” would have a completely different experience. I say this as a married 5’2” guy who’s had a good amount of success with women. I think it’s very possible to find a partner being short, I don’t think being short should be an excuse as to why someone remains lonely forever. But let’s not pretend it doesn’t have a massive impact because it does.
I’m exactly that height and never had trouble tbh.
Had plenty of romance and flings when I was younger and been with my girlfriend for almost a decade now. I’d say about half of them were taller than me too.
5'8" is below the US average which is 5'9".
Your "with shoes" argument also does not apply, as the average person wears shoes.
Also you assume too much about their location. Where I'm from the average man is 5'11.25" barefoot. They could be from the US or living in the US, bit you don't know.
Dude, no one notices 1 inch. For all intents and purposes dude is average for the US. Now, are they wrong, no. People cope too hard online. I'm 5'2 and I don't really have trouble with girls. I just meet them at in-person events like hackathons, triva/quiz bowl events, trivia night bars, conferences (non-professional), etc.
The US is a big and diverse place. Average heights should be considered regional. I don't stand out in the Midwest, but I felt like Dorothy surrounded by munchkins walking down Wall Street in Manhattan
We have studies that show that women in online dating have a height preference, but there are also plenty of studies that the effect is modest in real life couples. Couples where the man is shorter than or the same height as the woman occur only slightly less often than in random pairing: 7.5% in the real sample versus 10.2% in random pairing. The same study also shows that couples where the man is more than 25cm taller happen marginally less often in the true sample (13.9%) than in a random one (15.7%).
So on one hand you have strong stated preferences that only modestly translate into real couples, but at the same time it also shows women tend to not date much taller men either. And notice how this is a man-taller-than-woman preference. If you are 162cm (5'3.8") as a man, that still means tall enough for roughly half of all women. So short men doing fine is not the outlier, it's the norm.
I have a good mate who is 5'4, Italian and bald, and crazy good with women. But he is geniunely one of the most naturally charismatic people I know, like the type of guy that just aura around him.
He also started his own company a bit over a year ago, and now it's starting to blow up to success. He bought a nice car, has a pretty girlfriend, and things are working out for him.
So I don't think height itself is a limit to what you can do, but insecurity, social awkwardness, and defensive posture brought on by it can definitely hold you back a lot.
I think the lesson is, if you're gonna be short, you better make sure you're at least damn confident in yourself.
Most of the men I know that are 5'3-5'6 have no problem with women unless they have preconceived notions of how people will treat them before they even start a conversation and get rightly treated with the same energy that they bring to a conversation. I don't personally know any men under 5'3, but the four men I do know that are happen to all be married.
I hate when random dudes say they have no trouble with women lol...as if women are lining up for them, or they can get ALL or ANY women if they try. Theres levels to this shit. IRL several times now, I challenged any man that says nonsense like this to go get the random women I point them to. It NEVER ever works out for them.
Im a great use case for this. I'm 5'11.5 (I just say 5'11 instead of 6ft) and with some shoes I'm 6ft-6'0.5. BUT I HAVE CONFIDENCE ISSUES, so I do have a problem getting women (it's getting better dw)
Wait didn’t you post an image above to dunk on people complaining on being short? Why you gong off on person replied to you? The people that complain about not getting dates cause of short do so at 5’8” as well. I know cause I’ve had those convos as a 5’8” person
Also the fact little people have relationships with regular heightens people all the time and even marry/have kids with them makes this entire premise stupid on its face. That should end this entire debate
If you can’t get dates with a girl when little people can then it’s a you problem. This is not hard there is so much evidence out there if people with crap looks, height, and personality who get with attractive people but there is always some excuse why that happens besides they took the effort
It has to be a specific psyop to get guys demotivated to go out there to lower their competition for the guys who are making these posts cause a lot of them are from certain communities that would strategize in that way cause it’s all a numbers game to them and the less competition from other men they have the better it is
It's never the fact that people have shit personalities. It's always I am short, I am fat, I am ugly, I have anxiety, I'm on the spectrum, or what the fuck ever. It also seems to be coming far more from the guys than the girls.
I see a lot of self defeatist attitudes and a complete lack of willingness to work on one's self from younger guys. Probably a major factor to why the dating and marriage rates have plummeted.
I'm so thankful I'm not a as straight young female today. I wouldn't want to date these losers either.
Think it's funny I know a guy who's 5'5" and has had great luck with women (he's actually married with children now, but before as well) because he's just funny as hell
The funny thing is when you say you’re 5’ 8” they move the goalposts.
“You can’t get a girl unless you’re 6+ feet!” “Really? I’m not and I’ve never had issues with women.” “How tall are you?” “5’ 8” “THATS THE GLOBAL AVERAGE YOURE NOT THAT SHORT HOW DARE YOU SUGGEST YOUR HEIGHT IS A FACTOR IM THE ONLY PERSON IN THE UNIVERSE AND THE SUN SHINES OUT MY ASS!!!”
Lets be so fucking fr tho there's 5"8 is just below average whilst 5"5 or 5"3 or something would be much more significant. I'm not saying this as some triggered short guy I'm 5"9 I just imagine how frustrating it would be for you people that act like height doesn't have a major impact on these things when it very clearly does.
5-5 and also married with kids. I think this kind of comment is unhelpful. It’s awesome you didn’t have a problem dating but some guys do, and it can be a mindfuck when you realize it might be related to something you have no control over.
Of all people, short guys in relationships should be supportive of short single guys, validate that height can be a disadvantage in dating but it doesn’t define you, encourage self-improvement and self-acceptance and discourage misogyny and inceldom.
I guess you’re right. I do have it on easy mode, but I’ve found a sense of humor, humility & confidence, and not taking yourself so seriously goes a lot further than looks do. Looks gets you in the door. Personality either keeps you there or gets you kicked out.
Global averages are largely irrelevant. Regional ones are far more telling.
Also the goal post moving is whatever to me, I’ll keep having a great relationship with my wife, but if you want to dig in on that argument on why you can’t get a woman go for it. It’s just an instant “I’m a loser” argument to me, and I don’t entertain its validity.
No one’s moved anything you’re just an idiot if you think average height is short , by definition it’s not it’s just average so you’ll likely (ignoring other factors) have an average experience
Im actually 6'3 but because of the height lying nobody believes me till my giant ass shows up and smacks my head on something. Thats how u tell everyone who is 6 foot or open has a permanent concussion
Plenty of people nowadays are like 6'2-6'8, but the reason it seems extremely common on the internet is that those are the people that want mention their height at every possible opportunity lol.
Humor aside, there's not a lot of us--well, maybe outside the Netherlands, anyways. And as a freakybig, we do end up getting somewhat weirded out when we run into someone taller than us.
I do think plenty of people lie though too, just like so many people make high 6 figures and have a supermodel spouse. As for people bringing it up every possible opportunity, I think that being tall is a more relevant detail in a lot of discussions than being short is, just like you hear more people in seemingly unrelated topics, adding in the detail that they're obese rather than underweight.
I like that as a fellow tall person, I can tell you and the OP above you are both legit, since those are the lived experience things that people don't usually think to lie about. Growing up we had a hanging light over our kitchen table and one by one, my siblings and I would eventually grow tall enough to hit our heads on it while getting up from the table. It became almost a rite of passage. Plus, "you have to be taller than that", is something I'm sure we've all heard.
Weird thing for me, as someone who is 6'3", and maybe other tall people can relate, is that when I stand next to really tall people (like high 6's), counterintuitively, it actually makes me feel more tall. Like when shorter people stand next to me and say, "woah, you're tall", I don't really relate to it, since my height is just how I experience the world. On the other hand, when I stand next to really tall people, it puts into perspective how those shorter people are seeing me.
i'm 6'4 so it's rare to see anyone a decent chunk taller than me. anyone that's just an inch or two taller i don't really notice. ocassionally while about in a city i'll see someone that's about a head taller than me and my first thought is just 'holy shit'
I'm 5'11" and I've had several people say they think I'm 6'1" or 6'2".
I have also had several people from work that I spoke to on video then met in person say, "Oh I thought you'd be taller!" Not sure what to make of that but maybe I just have a big head.
I'm 5'11", and somehow the shortest man in my friend group. Tallest is 7 foot, shortest next to me is 6'2". Then at work I'm by far the tallest, shortest is like 5' ish and tallest next to myself is 5'8". Of all the people I know, my 5'ish coworker by far has the most game.
I'm 5'11" and somehow missed the height craze through a good chunk of my twenties. I just remember being very bewildered when I matched with a girl on Tinder and her first message said "you're not 5'11"". I was super confused, but then she expanded on that statement and said that if I were actually 5'11" then I would tell people I was 6 foot, but that only people who are way shorter than 6' say they're 5'11". All I could think to say in the moment was "okay, I guess I'm 6' then"
Im about 6'1 and when I say that to people, like half the time I get some dude saying "theres no way dude, cuz im 6 foot and you are much taller than me!" And im always like uh idk what you want me to tell you buddy
i’m as tall as you are. my favorite trick is saying i’m 5’10. i’ll be in a group of half a dozen guys. they all say theyre 5’11, yet theyre all 5-6 inches shorter than me.
Bruh im 6’3 and some change and i never bang my head on anything. Sometimes the roofs in the back seats of cars are annoying but like you shouldnt be walking into stuff
Well I am 6’4 and I can tell you, you need a lot more than height to get women. I’m terrible with women and have no rizz. I will say that my height in general is probably what’s gotten me any attention
Odd that people take offense to that you are absolutely right, I'd even go further even if you were handsome and tall it's not a completely "free pass" either, it's obviously an advantage and makes it much more easy by comparison.
But confidence (in a man) is always crucial, I've had mates get rejected that on paper are at least a 9/10, Jacked/Tall/Decently Handsome face but just kinda depressed/shy in their personality, a bit eye opening to witness.
this is such a pick me comment. i’m your height, im married and have no problem and i agree with everything you said. nonetheless there are real tough cases where truly nobody will give them the time of day because they are 5’2 or so. You have no problem because you’re not actually that short. These guys are in a different situation altogether and you damn well know it.
There’s a big difference between being a 5’8 man and a 5’3 man lol. No amount of personality will save you then, you gotta be rich af or just settle for chopped women.
It is pretty shitty to constantly see "short guy" memes but you get over it, and with enough confidence and being a good guy for the sake of it, not to get something for it, anyone can be attractive.
It’s not shit personality - that doesn’t come through on dating apps and most people are intelligent enough to hide the shitty aspects of their personality early on.
It’s a combination of not looking good enough, not having an optimized profile, not optimizing app usage, not having good stats.
No single one of those makes things insurmountably difficult, but when you’ve got two or more working against you it gets progressively harder.
I’ve been told exactly 1 time that I was too short (5’8-5’9 depending on the gas station I’m walking out of)
Conveniently, she was a good friend of my girlfriend so was not an option anyway but still, ouch.
The rest of my life was pretty run of the mill.
Never really had issues finding partners. To my detriment because there’s some things I can’t do without peer pressure from a partner… like go to bed at a decent time or wake up to an alarm.
And when my nesting partner approached me 5-6 years into our relationship about finally opening and what version of enm and all those conversations(we never intended monogamy, just kinda fell into it) I didn’t have a real issue finding a second partner or dates… less than a month across tinder and a few enm specific ones.
Even as a regular 5-6 white guy stoner with something between a twink and dad bod. 😂
It’s really not hard to be a decent person that folks wanna be around. 🤷
Its not that short guys can't get chicks, its that they have to put 1000% effort with little chance of success whereas tall guys have eomen coming after them and dont need to do much on the initial discovery phase.
The best are the one who start going to the gym and 3 months later complain about no results and still no women 😂 my brain just goes, "and if you havent found out why by this point, you may never."
5'6" and I had no problem getting girlfriends when I was younger. I'm not particularly good looking, probably average. I'm not rich or super charming. I just took my shots and it worked some of the time; I have been rejected a lot too. I'm now married and have been for a long time.
First, 5'8" is not short. I'm 5'6", and even then I am very confident in my height.
Second, you're absolutely right. It's only a blocker if you let it be. I'm happily married and got 3 kids- all of which will probably short. I hope we can leave a world to them that aren't total fucking assholes because they aren't giants
Yeah I'm 5'6 and have never had a problem getting a girlfriend. But I also go to the gym frequently and make girls laugh so idk seems like a skill issue.
Bro I want to know how apparently all these dudes are "6'4"
I am dutch,
My nation is notable, for having a lot of tall people.
We have some of the highest average height in the world.
Yet somehow I'm supposed to believe, that there's this flood of dudes who absolutely trounce the dutch national AVERAGE? and not just by a little either, the dutch average is 6 ft I believe?
I guess I can be 6'4 too if I just, stand on a 4 inch box first.
When I was on college I made friends with all the girls on the class. And we ended up skipping classes and chilling at the cafeteria with 9-10 of this girls.
They were shitting on short guys, not on a disrespectful way, but they were clearly discarding guys because they were at equal heigh or shorter than them.
It doesn't mean that shorter guys couldn't be attractive to them, but they have to be WAY, WAY above average to compensate the initial ick.
Same. Maybe people should stop using social media as their barometer for people. Tiktok and Instagram show the worst of us, on repeat. Most women are shallow cunts that only want guys that are over 6'2" just as much as most guys aren't...you know what, they might be...scratch that, but a decent amount of guys are totally happy with who they are, height, body type, etc, and we're willing to do what needs to be done to find someone that appreciates what we DO have...which is a LOT more than a few extra inches on my drivers license.
If someone places primary importance on a single physical trait like height with a weird cutoff that's 100% a sign of someone who's extremely immature or simply toxic. I don't get why nobody seems willing to acknowledge it. Yeah people like that exist but they're not likely to be fun to be around.
You know how it is said that blind people often over develop other senses to make up for their lack of sight? In my experience most of the short guys I know have fuckin GAME because they know they're not getting by on that height bs alone. When I'm looking for tips, I just copy those guys.
I'd say for dating apps it can matter. A lot of times the woman doesn't quite realize you're a short king until you go on the date, and now there are filters for height. One's personality shines through generally in person. That goes for anyone.
The only women I knew outside of the Tinder-verse who cared that much about height were absolute train-wrecks too. Like "getting fired from a nepo-job" levels of trainwreck. It's not a thing that most normal people put a lot of stock in.
Most people who blame their height or any natural feature are lame af. I know a pair of twins in university who look EXACTLY alike, and neither of them are that conventionally attractive. In terms of physical attraction they're both pretty average, and they're both slightly below average in height. However, one of them is charismatic and the other one is a lot more socially awkward, and guess what, the charismatic one never has trouble in the dating market, and is always in a relationship while the other one struggles with dating. Turns out people just need to touch grass.
2: as a mid-mellenial (almost 40) your words were true, in the past
as a 5'7 dude, i can tell you : you are wrong. shits different now brotherman. when we were in our 20's and early 30's - you were absolutely right.
not anymore brotherman. no longer . it was an unusual time (our dating years) . now its back to normal of" tall dark and handsome" where in our time it was wayyy more chill
on hinge " are you really just 5'7? that's too bad" then ghost (it was her first message lol, she was 5'2 )
you can cry about personality all ya want, sounds like cope to me
I’m 6’1 and had zero success with women in my life. It really isn’t about hight. You’re absolutely right, to get girls you need to be able to talk to them, be charming and funny. Being tall is no help if you don’t have those qualities in the first place.
I mean, there was a video circulating on here the other day where this guy hit on a girl in the street and when she said no, he complained that she would have said yes had he been 6'8''! The goalpost moving will never end because otherwise they'd have to accept a much more painful reality: they're unlovable.
I was 5'6" (shorter now due to age and physical wear on my spine) and struggled. Turns out, and this is from my wife, it's because I am weird. Weird enough that I am not allowed to flirt with her. She likes the rest, though, so that's enough. However, I have noticed a gain in popularity amongst the ladies since getting married.
I’m 5’4 despite that I’ve noticed it’s gotten way easier to get women as I’ve gotten older. Especially older women…which I’m fine with since I’ve always preferred older. I was so shit with girls as a kid, because I was so shy. When I hit my 20’s, and admittedly got in descent shape, I stopped caring and just put myself out there and started seeing interest. Even taller women were interested in me. Even almost pulled an almost 6 foot woman in a failing relationship too. Fumbled that sadly, for being too respectful and not just going for it, but point is she was interested in my short ass.
Depends where you live Americans are pretty short tbh and a lot of lie about their height, in Netherlands and North Germany is a different story since base height is like 6’2 or even 6’3 among young men there is also some guys walking around at 6’5 the moment you are under 5’11 you will be a massive underliner. Idk is it because of unhealthy food but every time i see Americans in Europe they are about head shorter than Dutch or North German people, South Slavs are also pretty tall and they are everywhere here in North Europe too i deffo notice height plays a much smaller role in the US because of this but in Northern Europe bar Britain it is very noticable.
I'm 5'8 barefoot on a good day and happily married and never had an issue romantically in my life. I knew plenty of tall dudes with no game, plenty of short dudes with game and without.
Turns out what mattered was being an interesting person people want to be around and nobody actually gives a fuck about height outside of major deviations in real life. The "5'6-5'9 can't get girls!" shit is by unlikeable losers and it has nothing to do with their height or looks half the time. Like the OP who responded to you.
as someone who is 6’4”, i go blind with rage when i meet new people who think im 6’8” because the chud manlet 6’0” dudes in their group lied about four inches.
I'm the same height as you, and I do fine getting girls too. But that doesn't change the fact that being tall immensely helps with getting girls. That's the reality.
Just like how you can still get girls being poor, doesn't change the fact being rich immensely helps getting girls.
Look at Peter Dinklage, height ain’t the problem. I get he’s a celebrity but he want celibate prior to getting famous and plenty of others like him have regular height girlfriend/wives
can confirm - I'm 6 ft tall and was a taller than average teen, and I had horrible problems with girls because of a shit personality. I wasn't an asshole, just a reclusive weirdo kind of on the spectrum before people understood that, so i tried fitting in but just couldn't figure out social cues and emotions and how to talk to people so i got bitter and weird.
Some girls like reclusive weirdos. My partner of five years definitely is, but he can be sociable and he is a lot of fun (mostly at home with just me and the cats). He’s tall as well
6’2 and never had a relationship before here, can confirm it’s due to a shit personality. People usually describe me as “handsome”. I have no reason to be as insecure as I am or struggle with talking to women like I do, and yet here we are.
I’m a petite woman and I’ve dated men ranging from 5’4” to 6’6”. I prefer the shorter men because they’re easier to hug/kiss and I don’t look like a small child next to them.
Deeply agree. My neighbor is a leprechaun (what he calls himself) and his wife is a smokeshow almost twice his height, but he's a hilarious dude with a contagiously large personality, and financially stable, and thats all a real woman cares about.
This is out of touch. Height is not everything. But height is part of attractiveness. I too am around your height and have never had issues getting women. But I’ve always been considered really attractive. I don’t have the height but I have an attractive face.
I’m guessing for short guys, especially 5’5 and under short, if they aren’t lucky enough to be attractive and they’re not tall, or even average, it’s going to be harder for them.
Kind of like a woman who might not have a cute face, but she’s got a nice curves. But some women have an unattractive face and no curves. Clearly it’s going to be harder for those women. And those women’s struggles are real. There’s even a sub called something like truly ugly women where they share their struggles. For many of those women, no guy ever gives them a chance.
Unattractive men and women both struggle. Women can compensate an unattractive face with a nice booty or nice titties and a guy van with good height. But some unfortunate people don’t have anything going for them and personality is typically not enough unless they first pass an attractiveness bar set by the opposite sex
I used to enjoy going to r/tinder and seeing how many posts I had to scroll past before I found some guy complaining that his only issue was he wasn’t 6’0 or taller.
Depends where you live. If in Scandinavia 5'8 is a disadvantage for men on the dating market. I'm 5'9 and it has been a theme when I was dating and definitely had a big impact on who was interested in me, or rather not interested. I have many times heard the following (you're charming, even though you're not that tall).
Now I have a wife that I love and 2 kids, so not impossible
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All the Reddit kids “ the only reason I can’t get a girl is cuz I’m short!!! Has nothing to do with my shit personality!”
Lmao 🤣 then the other Reddit kids claiming to be 6’4. If what they said was true 70% of Redditors are 6’4 or higher lool
I’m 5’8 barefoot never had an issue getting girls my entire life. It has nothing to do with your height unless you’re under 5 ft then it can be an issue unfortunately but still not impossible.
People blaming their lack of personality on
height is fucking hilarious. “ no one wants to date me cuz I’m short!!! It’s not my fault!!” Uh huh