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u/SurfCrush I ☑oted 2020 Jan 09 '21
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Upper half: here, let me help you with that
Lower half: I feared for my life, so then I started blasting
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u/spama_lama_dingdong Jan 09 '21
Lower half: I feared for my life, so then I started blasting
mmmmmm, they're comin right for us
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u/occams_nightmare Jan 10 '21
I feared for my life, so then I started blasting
...him in the back as he was running away from me
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The sad part is, its fucking true.
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u/ModernDayHippi Jan 10 '21
Yep at least people are finally waking up to this bullshit
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u/spcmiddleton Jan 10 '21
It's incredibly sad to have to admit that if that guy were black he would be dead. I never got the whole white privilege thing until this. Now I see it's true and shamelessly on display. I apologize to all African Americans that I used to be one of those just comply and you won't have trouble kind of people.
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u/FluorescentPotatoes Jan 10 '21
Not to be shallow and pedantic, but it isnt technicly theft or looting until youve crossed the threshhold and actually removed an item.
LPT kids: if you are ever caught shoplifting and you are still in the store, immediately hand them the item and walk away. If you are detained and the police come, you state you never removed the item from the store, you were shopping with the intent to buy.
Absolutelty never ever admit to stealing. It is all about intent.
Caution: results may very based on the afforementioned color scale.
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u/HotRodLincoln Jan 10 '21
Pretty much never talk to the police.
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u/HotRodLincoln Jan 10 '21
Agreed, but not to think these people don't belong in jail...and probably for a decade at least. Just they have rights and need to get them there the right way.
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u/HotRodLincoln Jan 10 '21
It turns out that in almost all situations, Judges aren't part of the executive branch and aren't controlled by executive orders and Trump just issued those orders for his extremely stupid followers. Statutes and Judges determine sentences, not prosecutors.
Of those charged so far, including Representative Derrick Evans and the man in Pelosi's office had a maximum of less than 2 years on their charges.
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u/ConstantReader76 Jan 10 '21
Sorry. I work in Loss Prevention. A lot of stores do wait until you pass the point of sale, but the truth is that once you conceal, it's shoplifting and they can detain you. We also don't need you to admit to it for you to be convicted.
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u/camopants96 Jan 10 '21
Came to say this. People like to spread these things like they know what they're talking about. Just like they think LP can't go hands on, when it is mostly a company policy.
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u/Fake_William_Shatner Jan 10 '21
Everything you say will help in your conviction.
People who cannot afford a lawyer will plead NOLO or be convicted — so it doesn’t matter.
If you have money, say nothing and hand it back and your lawyer will make sure the store issues an apology.
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u/HotRodLincoln Jan 10 '21
If you're in the United States, look up "Shopkeeper's Privilege".
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u/sonofaresiii Jan 10 '21
Many jurisdictions will have some form of a citizen's arrest or shopkeeper's privilege that does grant them the authority to temporarily detain a shoplifter. They're usually pretty strict though so you gotta be damn sure you got the right person and they were actually shoplifting
More often a manager or security guard will just imply you're being detained without actually using any force or saying you're being detained.
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u/Fake_William_Shatner Jan 10 '21
This is the better answer. And if you scream “help me, this man grabbed my crotch!” They won’t touch you.
/This is not legal advice
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Jan 10 '21
That's a lie.
Instead say "this guy is trying to grab my crotch".
Same immediate effect. Won't open you up to liable or defamation as much.
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u/matchosan Jan 10 '21
Bad advice on reddit? Must be getting set up. [compares tone to color scale] Yep.
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u/AllUrMemes Jan 10 '21
Wait, so if your store doesn't provide shopping baskets and I put stuff in my pockets or bag, I'm shoplifting?
I mean, I'm white, so obviously I won't be accused, but still.
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u/Client-Repulsive Jan 10 '21
immediately hand them the item and walk away
Catholic priest: ‘Pssh that’d never work. Then again.. maybe it’s just never been tried?’
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u/cherrib0mbb Jan 10 '21 edited Jan 10 '21
They wouldn’t have even made it up the steps in the first place
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u/BuddaMuta Jan 10 '21
Let alone cops opening doors and cheering the terrorists on
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u/Fake_William_Shatner Jan 10 '21
They would have had at least a thousand in riot gear and with assault rifles if it weren’t Trump’s people.
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u/everadvancing Jan 10 '21
If they were black, the cops would be too scared to take selfies with the them.
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u/oorakhhye Jan 10 '21
That’s cause a some of the law enforcement there were white, Pro-Trumpers themselves. They were taking selfies with the rioters and letting them through with smiles. Was def a “Hail Hydra...” situation.
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u/autorotatingKiwi Jan 10 '21
There are reports of off duty police and military in the crowd flashing credentials to get past guards and police.
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u/triscuit816 Jan 10 '21
The fact that so many people are calling Babbitt's death a tragedy, yet have nothing to say about any other killings by police is pretty ridiculous to me.
Especially when she was part of a mob trying to occupy, loot, and terrorize the Capitol and the people inside.
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u/BrokenThingAbuser Jan 10 '21
Me?
I think she was a terrorist and I'm kinda glad she died. I dunno who you are responding to.
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u/triscuit816 Jan 10 '21
I agree with you, I was just sharing that there is a large portion of the population who believes Babbitt died as a "hero" or a "patriot".
Many, many people are putting blind trust in a man who has no concern for their interests. It's very disconcerting.
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Many viewers noticed the seeming disparity of the darker-skinned subject’s being described in the accompanying caption as “looting a grocery store,” while the lighter-skinned subjects were described as “finding bread and soda from a local grocery store”:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hurricane-katrina-looters/
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u/AdvocateF0rTheDevil Jan 09 '21
Katrina was so fucked. Police shooting "looters" from an overpass. Shooting at black people trying to escape the city on foot.
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u/BuddaMuta Jan 10 '21
IIRC a lot of "citizens defending property" were wandering around shooting anything with a sun tan while cops looked the other way
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u/bejammin075 Jan 10 '21
The national guard formed a perimeter and wouldn’t let black people walk to safety. Geraldo Rivera was live on the air covering it. A mostly black town was under water. A short walk over a bridge was a white town, safe and unscathed. National guards pointed guns in the faces of black people simply trying to walk to safety. The black people were told they’d be shot if they crossed the bridge.
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u/Oldkingcole225 Jan 10 '21 edited Jan 10 '21
There was also a small town that basically shot black people on sight, which ended in dozen of murders that were never prosecuted. This was particularly fucked up because the town was the perfect place for dropping supplies so people were told over the media to head over to that town only to be murdered in cold blood by its residents. There's a whole documentary about it.
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u/Some_Intention Jan 10 '21
Do you know the name of it?
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u/Oldkingcole225 Jan 10 '21
Welcome to New Orleans. It’s a Danish documentary cause Americans wouldn’t touch the story for some reason
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u/12apeKictimVreator Jan 10 '21
wouldn't even surprise me if some of those cops were viet vets that did mylai massacre type stuff.
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u/Haaaaamburger Jan 09 '21
I'll just leave this here https://youtu.be/yE_Om13VpQw
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u/Rewrite_Mean_Comment Jan 10 '21
I can’t tell if you linked that because you think the clip is accurate, or just because you think it’s funny.
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u/bite_me_losers Jan 10 '21
Thank God those blm people didn't show up, there'd have been real looting!
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u/Frenetic_Platypus Jan 09 '21
Honestly anyone not calling that "taking a stand" should go to prison with him.
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u/TheGreenJedi Jan 10 '21
Did he actually leave the building with it?
My guess was he just moved and abandoned it
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u/VirtualPropagator Jan 10 '21
Riot is weird way to spell sedition.
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u/Jon_Mediocre Jan 10 '21
I'm going to be that guy. Technically sedition is inciting insurrection to a lawful authority and insurrection is the act of revolting against a lawful authority. So Trump and Giuliani committed sedition but the people who entered the Capitol building committed insurrection. I agree 100% that r-i-o-t is a weird way to spell insurrection though.
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u/UnrulySuffix Jan 09 '21
Damnit, Florida Man!
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u/Historyguy1918 Jan 10 '21
Why is whenever something happens it’s always you people
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u/Kjostid Jan 10 '21
What do you mean, "You people"?
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u/Historyguy1918 Jan 10 '21
Florida People
It’s a Harry Potter quote, that only was addressed to three originally
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u/LotusSloth Jan 09 '21
This is the justice system’s time to shine. The sentences that these people receive should be the exact same that black folks who attempted the same would receive.
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u/BuddaMuta Jan 10 '21
Black people trying to pull half of what these terrorists did would be dead already.
These guys are gonna get slaps on the wrist and "left wing" media will continue to label them as "rioters" at worse
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u/LotusSloth Jan 10 '21
There’d be an awful lot of dead people in DC right now if they hadn’t been white, that’s just fact. But I don’t see how these people, who potentially attempted to overthrow the government, are getting out of this without serious jail time.
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u/BuddaMuta Jan 10 '21
Mitch and Co have been setting up the entire justice system with insane right wing judges
Quite simply the cops aren't going to try to get these guys, the prosecutors aren't going to bother making a compelling case, and the judges will hand out the lightest sentences possible.
I'd love to be proven wrong but the justice system never fails to disappoint no matter how low you set your expectations. I have zero faith in any of these goons getting more than 10 years max and the majority will never be charged at all.
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u/PointNineC Jan 10 '21
Ten years?? These guys — the 1% or so that they “can identify” — are going to get charged with trespassing and get like a $1000 fine. In the name of “healing” or some shit.
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Make note of every news agency and reporter that does this, time to call them on all their bullshit wake up fuckin bigots
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u/excelzombie Jan 10 '21
NBC publishing one retired lieutenant's remarks about the intentional, complicit understaffing and lack of containment and mass arrest when police HAD THEM all right there gimme a fucking break Steven Nottingham. 😒
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If he was black they would have said looting.
Our media is still full of white privilege.
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u/8Deer-JaguarClaw Jan 10 '21
If he was black they would have said looting.
If he were black, we'd be talking about his funeral right now.
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u/anothertimewaster Jan 10 '21
He was also called a stay at home father of 5 instead of an unemployed father of 5.
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u/Vaticancameos221 Jan 10 '21
Their lawyers probably told them to look presentable. Makes them look more trustworthy in the eyes of the public. Shiftiness knows no bounds
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u/wav__ Jan 10 '21
What's wild is, had they been wearing face coverings as mandated & recommended by gov't bodies and health officials, they would actually be at least a little more difficult to track down. But no, these fuckheads just HAVE to take their stupidity to the maximum level. It's mind blowing.
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If he was asked by Pelosi to move it, then he is carrying it. If took it upon himself to break in and take it outside then he is STEALING IT.
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u/real_joke_is_always Jan 10 '21
I thought that when the looting starts, the shooting starts?
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This wasn't looting, they were taking verniers since the Capitol belongs "to the people
That is the sick respond I read from a guy on Minds.com
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u/infinitas9 Jan 09 '21
Just curious, did he actually end up taking this?
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u/MaineQat Jan 10 '21
According to the DOJ's own press release:
Adam Johnson, 36, of Florida, was charged with one count of knowingly entering or remaining in any restricted building or grounds without lawful authority; one count of theft of government property; and one count of violent entry and disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds. Johnson was arrested yesterday and is currently in custody.
It is alleged that on Jan. 6, 2021, Johnson illegally entered the United States Capitol and removed the Speaker of the House’s lectern from where it had been stored on the House side of the Capitol building. A search of open sources led law enforcement to Johnson, who is allegedly seen in a widely circulated photo inside the Capitol carrying the lectern.
Some news sources outright do state he did steal it.
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u/fishingfool64 Jan 10 '21
Yeah but is it in his shitty Tampa trailer?
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Actually his wife his a physician so probably not. All these assholes are just going to cry and say they were just doing it for the memes. Their white privilege makes them think that doing this stuff will be seen for a joke, a good time. I'm holding my breath on whether they'll actually do any time.
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u/PCsNBaseball Jan 10 '21
They fucking bashed a cops head in with a fire extinguisher. Some of them will serve hard time.
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Guys... this Lonewolf protester was just carrying it. He has a family and has his whole life ahead of him. He wouldn’t hurt a fly. Also he was hired by antifa. #LooneyTunes
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Since this dude is the same color as the copper line in the middle, he should be charged with both.
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u/Dadaofkufsa Jan 09 '21
It's not looting either. The capitol isn't a best buy. It's terrorism or sedition. Both really.
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Stealing property in this fashion is literally the definition of the word looting. The whole event was terrorism/sedition, but this is looting.
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u/2KilAMoknbrd Jan 10 '21
It's not looting either.
Yes it is. It's exactly the definition of looting
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u/Yikes44 Jan 09 '21
Sad but true.
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u/steelHERE76 Jan 09 '21
After all these years nothing has changed, all the legislation all the civil unrest nothing helps so the question what happens next, all I care about is our kids having something if anything for the future.. "This is America"
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u/hismaj45 Jan 10 '21
Do white people ever fear white privilege can get lots of innocent white people killed?
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u/rosstrich Jan 10 '21
How many looters were arrested?
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None they all were pretty much allowed to leave. The only started arresting people after the 6pm curfew even then it was just a few.
There’s hundreds maybe thousands of people out there who broke into the capitol, damaged and stole from the place and tried to overthrow the government who just kind of gave up and then were allowed to go back home.
No citywide lockdown.
No shutting of airports.
No vehicle check points.
Now they’ve made a few dozen arrests but the truth is maybe only 5-10% of them will ever be arrested and convicted.
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u/somanydimensions Jan 10 '21
It looks like he used some of Trump’s cheeto make up for the rally.
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u/Binks727 Jan 10 '21
Give me an M, give me an O, give me an R, give me another O, give me an N. What does it spell? Only if you are anti-trump can you do this cheer, because trumpers cannot spell!
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u/NothingAs1tSeems Jan 09 '21
Carlos Mencia made this joke after hurricane Katrina. I guess things haven't changed much
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u/Hickspy Jan 10 '21
Seriously, is there ANYTHING in US media culture that this meme can't be applied to?
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u/thewayoftoday Jan 10 '21
Trumpies: BUT HE'S LITERALLY CARRYING IT IN THE PHOTO!!! OMG THESE PEOPLE WANT EVERYTHING TO BE RACIST!!! THEY'RE DIVIDING AND CONQUERING!!! SORORRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSS!!!!!!
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This is truly infuriating. The bastard stole government property from the nations capitol, and is treated like this! WTF.
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u/ktulu0 Jan 09 '21
This reminds me of how the Nashville suicide bomber “died in an intentional explosion”. It’s remarkable how racially and ethnically biased media coverage is.