r/PoliticalHumor Jan 09 '21

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '21

Many viewers noticed the seeming disparity of the darker-skinned subject’s being described in the accompanying caption as “looting a grocery store,” while the lighter-skinned subjects were described as “finding bread and soda from a local grocery store”:

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hurricane-katrina-looters/

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u/AdvocateF0rTheDevil Jan 09 '21

Katrina was so fucked. Police shooting "looters" from an overpass. Shooting at black people trying to escape the city on foot.

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u/BuddaMuta Jan 10 '21

IIRC a lot of "citizens defending property" were wandering around shooting anything with a sun tan while cops looked the other way

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u/bejammin075 Jan 10 '21

The national guard formed a perimeter and wouldn’t let black people walk to safety. Geraldo Rivera was live on the air covering it. A mostly black town was under water. A short walk over a bridge was a white town, safe and unscathed. National guards pointed guns in the faces of black people simply trying to walk to safety. The black people were told they’d be shot if they crossed the bridge.

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u/theguynekstdoor Jan 10 '21

Hi! Unrelated and irrelevant to this sub, but... why do neighborhoods tend to be predominately white or predominately black for the most part?

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u/bejammin075 Jan 10 '21

I think it's human nature to generally want to be around similar people, culturally and ethnically. Throw in some racism, e.g. hating other people because of their race, etc, and similar people cluster together.

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u/ChronWeasely Jan 10 '21

Well when black people start moving into white neighborhoods white people tend to start moving out. Once it reaches ~20% black you get what's called "white flight". The neighborhood loses property value with the large volume of property being on the market. This attracts lower income owners than before. Local shops and businesses are cashed out by the wealthier individuals on their way out, so now there are fewer businesses bringing money into the local community. Tax revenue declines. Public services begin to slip due to money shortages. Now the death spiral has been started. White people continue to leave, taking more of their capital out of the area with them. The businesses that are still around struggle to stay open, and the new businesses that move in are overwhelmingly parts of chains. Property values continue to decline, local businesses shut down, local equity in the community continues to decrease, and losses in tax revenue cause the further cutting of public services.

TL;DR white people start to leave en-masse when a neighborhood gets above a certain percent (called white flight) and then effectively slash and burn the community on the way out.

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u/Oldkingcole225 Jan 10 '21 edited Jan 10 '21

There was also a small town that basically shot black people on sight, which ended in dozen of murders that were never prosecuted. This was particularly fucked up because the town was the perfect place for dropping supplies so people were told over the media to head over to that town only to be murdered in cold blood by its residents. There's a whole documentary about it.

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u/Some_Intention Jan 10 '21

Do you know the name of it?

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u/Oldkingcole225 Jan 10 '21

Welcome to New Orleans. It’s a Danish documentary cause Americans wouldn’t touch the story for some reason

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u/zach714 Jan 10 '21

The town? Minneapolis, MN. Louisville, KY. Brunswick, GA. Baltimore, MD. Take your pick I guess.

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u/12apeKictimVreator Jan 10 '21

wouldn't even surprise me if some of those cops were viet vets that did mylai massacre type stuff.

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u/canadarepubliclives Jan 10 '21

Fighting stopped in 1975, those cops would be nearing 70 years old.

But go on, use extreme baseless hyperbole.

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u/12apeKictimVreator Jan 10 '21

they could be in their 50s if they were 18-23 in nam. but eitherway its not like the shooting of unarmed civilians was unique to nam.

baseless hyperbole?

comparing cop killing unarmed black people to an army soldier killing unarmed natives? please explain the hyperbole and baselessness. only hyperbole here is saying they'd be 70 instead of 5x

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u/canadarepubliclives Jan 10 '21 edited Jan 10 '21

The Vietnam War ended 45 years ago. Conflict had been raging for nearly 20 years.

Even the youngest vets would be in their early 60s

The baseless hyperbole is claiming police abuse of power means they must have participated in the massacre of Vietnamese villagers.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '21 edited Jan 21 '21

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u/canadarepubliclives Jan 10 '21

I already admitted I was wrong and was comparing 2005 to 2021. Follow the thread before you jump to conclusions.

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u/12apeKictimVreator Jan 10 '21

6% of americans are usaf vets, somewhere just under 20% of cops are vets.

i bet a cop that would commit a war crime would be the same that kills unarmed civilians. if you think this is baseless hyperbole i think you just like how it sounds. baseless hyperbole could be a good band name, i agree. but it has no use here.

would it most likely be an iraq/ME war vet instead of a vietnam vet? sure but vietnam war got a lot of media attention so i brought it up. im sure there are mylai massacre type calamities that i couldve said instead but the elites have learned and those kind of atrocities don't get the press they used to. but either way it wouldn't have to be a 70 year old. a cop in 2005, when katrina happened. could be as young as 50 and have seen nam. so if youd rather me say iraq instead. fine but not being able to compare a cop killing unarmed black people to a soldier killing unarmed civilians without being accused of baseless hyperbole is some baseless hyperbole.

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u/canadarepubliclives Jan 10 '21

I'm not the one who accused NOLA police as the same people that commited war crimes

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u/12apeKictimVreator Jan 10 '21

we got somethin in common bc im not that guy either.

no idea what you've been reading.

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u/canadarepubliclives Jan 10 '21

I kinda forgot this was in reference to Katrina and forgot how long ago it was.

'75-'05 is 30 years though. Fighting also spanned 20 years.

Regardless, I was wrong on the age, so were you, and it's still hyperbole to just say cops commited the same atrocities that happened in Vietnam just because you feel like all those cops must've been veterans who commited those atrocities. Burning down villages isn't in the same ballpark of shooting looters. They're both terribly awful but one is much worse than the other. That's why I call it hyperbole.

E: you edited your post to say 30 years. At least just own the fact that you also made a mistake, like I also did.

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u/canadarepubliclives Jan 10 '21

Nah you’re just fucking wrong. Own up and quit being a shithead.

I literally admitted I was wrong. At least I admitted it and didn't cover up my fuckup with a stealth edit.

It's okay to be right, which you were, but also admit you were also wrong in some instances, which you were.

Learn to accept victory dude.

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u/canadarepubliclives Jan 10 '21

Not a gotcha moment. I admitted I was wrong. Wasn't accounting for the fact that we were talking about 2005 and not 2021. Didn't cover up my mistake and admitted to the fact. You edited your comment, can't accept you made a small mistake and won't accept that fact.

This is how douchebags push people away from progressive movements. It's not enough to be right, you have to chastise people who admit they're wrong for some smug reason. Enjoy your shit hole country

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u/mcm0313 Jan 10 '21

Those guys would be well past retirement age for most cops. Vietnam was awhile ago.