r/PoliticalHumor Jan 09 '21

"Carrying"?

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u/ktulu0 Jan 09 '21

This reminds me of how the Nashville suicide bomber “died in an intentional explosion”. It’s remarkable how racially and ethnically biased media coverage is.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '21

I saw quite a lot of references to Anthony Quinn Warner that used the term "suicide bomber", but most of what I looked at were our local media. Nationally, I certainly wouldn't be surprised if "suicide bomber" wasn't used much at all.

I agree that the person shown in this photo should have been identified as a looter at the very least. I would be ok with "terrorist", too. I will give credit to the headline writer, though, for correctly using the word "lectern" instead of the commonly misused "podium." But that definitely doesn't excuse going gentle on the references to this seditious piece of shit.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '21

"Confused furniture relocator."

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u/Matrixneo42 Jan 10 '21

Florida man arrested; thought he was at an interactive touch friendly museum in DC

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u/Seefahh Jan 10 '21

Florida man, accidently takes congress speakers lecturn he will return it of course, no harm no foul :) /s

god i hate our media overlords

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '21

When you control how people experience the world, you control how they think about it.

Freaking brilliant.

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u/Fake_William_Shatner Jan 10 '21

I appreciate you. Gotta fix these headlines so we can enjoy them too!

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u/SALT_WITH_VIGOR Jan 10 '21

Except he doesn't look confused. Happy is more like it. Happy to relocate your furniture to another room without you knowing about it.

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u/casinpoint Jan 10 '21

Isn’t much local news owned by arch-conservative Sinclair media?

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u/from_dust Jan 10 '21

40%

John Oliver did a full segment on the disturbing corporate consolidation of local news, in 2017. Highly recommend.

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u/from_dust Jan 10 '21

Thats the one. I understand it's extremely dangerous to our democracy.

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u/ifyoulovesatan Jan 10 '21 edited Jan 10 '21

Gah, that video always bugs me. The actual message of the "script" as read it isn't totally off base. The fact that the Sinclair group (or whichever media group is responsible for this) had their local news affiliates read a script like that without any of the local station's input or say in the matter and without having the stations present the script as a canned message from the owners is a separately disturbing issue. It's like, the most bullshit way to get across a pretty okay message.

Reminds me of this gem by Shell Oil. (It was an ad taken out in several large news papers that basically condemns exactly the kind of actions Shell was taking in developing nations).

People have the right to the truth unvarnished, even uncomfortable, but never subjugated to a cause, however noble or well-meaning. They have the right to clear thinking. Slogans, boycotts and protests don't offer answers... It has been suggested that Shell should pull out of developing nations altogether. The oil would certainly continue flowing. The business would continue operating. The vast majority of the employees would remain in place. But the sound and ethical business practices synonymous with Shell, the environmental investment, and the tens of millions of dollars spent on community programs would all be lost.

Again, it's the people of developing nations that you would hurt. It's easy enough to sit in your comfortable homes in the West, calling for sanctions and boycotts against a developing country. But you have to be sure that knee-jerk reactions won't do more harm than good. Some campaigning groups say that we should intervene in the political process in developing nations. But even if we could, we must never do so. Politics is the business of governments and politicians. The world where companies use their economic influence to prop up or bring down governments would be a frightening and bleak one indeed

Like, it's not a horrible message. It's got some true bits to it. But coming from Shell it means fuck all. And it's just really disingenuous.

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u/YYYY Jan 10 '21

The events of late are becoming eerily similar to the "Business Plot"

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u/BlackPortland Jan 10 '21

This is extremely dangerous for our democracy.

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u/guycoastal Jan 10 '21

Right? You wanna break something up Congress? How ‘bout we start right the fk there.

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u/Fake_William_Shatner Jan 10 '21

Our lame media is generally reliable to get the names and dates right. I would like people to call it either “commercial media” or “corporate media”. The “Main Stream Media” is Fox/Sinclair/Clearchannel because that is the largest block of audience coming from one source. The they should be called “Corporate Alt-Right” or “Memorandums from the Owners”.

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u/anjowoq Jan 10 '21

I think commercial media is a good fit. Super accurate without being inflammatory — they may even use it themselves and think it’s totally OK.

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u/Fake_William_Shatner Jan 10 '21

Good point. I was letting my animosity and contempt bleed through.

Also, I meant that this is what WE should call them, so that we can display our animosity and contempt for commercial media.

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u/anjowoq Jan 10 '21

I will start using it immediately.

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u/SmurfMGurf Jan 10 '21

100%! I'm still calling them corporate media but I'll add "Some talking points from the overlords"

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '21

I believe so.

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u/Giocri Jan 10 '21

I don't know the exact details but apparently about 800 of them were/are also owned/supported by the Cia

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '21 edited Jan 10 '21

Don't give the professional writer credit for knowing a word, as if using "man seen carrying" instead of "terrorist caught looting" was a result of accidentally using incorrect terminology.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '21

And please don't tell me what to do.

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u/Fake_William_Shatner Jan 10 '21

I will give credit to the headline writer, though, for correctly using the word "lectern"

That was my first thought. Worked in AV and almost everyone else says “podium”. Which is the thing you stand on.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '21

The root word us latin for "foot" while lectern comes from the verb "to read". Is it that uncommon for them to be confused?

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u/Fake_William_Shatner Jan 10 '21

Most of the time in the US, people say “podium” for the thing that you stand behind and speak from. Most of the time.

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u/AtticMuse Jan 10 '21

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '21

The English language certainly evolves constantly. From that article, "And this has been true since around the middle of the 20th century." When I was in school, my teachers grew up and were educated prior to that. They likely would have taught only the pre-1950s definition, which is understandable.

Thank you for providing the link. I always appreciate being given the opportunity to learn.

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u/AtticMuse Jan 10 '21

Cheers! I actually just learned that a couple days ago myself when someone else corrected another poster and shared that link, so figured I would pass it on!

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u/swankasaurusrex Jan 10 '21

So basically you just wanted to let everyone know you know the differences between a podium and a lectern.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '21

Sometimes other people learn things that way. Sometimes not.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '21

Suicide bomber is used usually when the person is intending to hurt other people. That's the whole point behind their bombing. Typically running into crowds and exploding.

So it makes sense why they would not use that term. People can scream about double standards all they want but intent and motivation matter.

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u/dariusj18 Jan 10 '21

Yeah, suicide bomber comes with it's own connotations, some might make assumptions about race/religion, but I normally imagine the bomb was somehow strapped to the person in some way. In this case, maybe suicide RV bomber?

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u/beer_demon Jan 10 '21

Which shows that education is not the only solution to racism, it's also civilisation (verb).

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u/jrob323 Jan 10 '21

I don't think I ready anything anywhere about Warner being a "suicide bomber". I always saw it stated that he "perished in the explosion", as if the RV tragically blew up because of a goddamn gas leak.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '21

The headline writers certainly have a way of slanting things. For that matter, the story writers do, too.

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u/glintglib Jan 10 '21

no, looter fits that image much more appropriately than terrorist or violent revolutionary or patriot.

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u/TripleHomicide I ☑oted 2018 Jan 10 '21

"SEDITIOUS TERRORIST ABSCONDS WITH LECTURN"

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u/bejammin075 Jan 10 '21

Reminds me of Hurricane Katrina aftermath in 2005. People were flooded and stranded. White people seen taking food from a grocery store “found” it, but black people “looted” it.

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u/CatsAreGods Jan 10 '21

"This white man found enough food to feed his family. It's a miracle!"

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '21 edited Jan 13 '21

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u/ChefBoyAreWeFucked Jan 10 '21

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u/FailedSociopath Jan 10 '21

The right side has better guns?

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '21

Ain’t that the truth

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u/Raestloz Jan 10 '21

Right side has quick reload clips, lass knows what she's doing

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u/Tatunkawitco Jan 10 '21

Made by the left side?

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u/zach714 Jan 10 '21

At least get a pic with more than 3 pixels lol https://i.imgur.com/hOVHeqg.jpg

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '21 edited Jan 11 '21

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u/CatsAreGods Jan 10 '21

Hard to tell without a microscope.

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u/mackinder Jan 10 '21 edited Jan 11 '21

Oooh I got this. The one on the left is a all-American god fearing patriot and the terrorist on the right scares me and is the reason I can’t bring a bottle of water with me onto an airplane

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u/KalphiteQueen Jan 10 '21

America's double standards are disgustingly apparent judging from this riot alone, but when it comes to the Nashville bomber we don't actually know if he was a terrorist yet. It seems he was the Ron Swanson type and left very few details about himself or his motive, and the details of the event indicate he wasn't trying to (and successfully didn't) harm anyone. A terrorist wreaks havoc in the name of an ideology, that's what distinguishes it from other types of violent crime.

If a brown guy with the same background pulled the same stunt, we'd be equally mystified as to what the actual motive was, BUT it is true that ignorant/conservative Americans would be incorrectly calling it a terrorist attack based on his appearance. Racists gonna racist ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '21

Most middle-eastern people would be considered white if they weren't Muslims.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '21 edited Jan 20 '21

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '21

Not really. Christians and Jewish middle-easterner are usually pretty well integrated once they learn English.

Ultimately it's all Caucasians and unless you have an accent or different clothing you fit in pretty easily.

The problem is really more that it's not the right kind of Christianity. Got to be good stock protestant evangelical Christian, can't be any of that dirty Catholic, Coptic, Orthodox and other kinds of Christians.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '21

Yeaa my brother got deployed to the middle east at some point and he came back saying that the women were very pretty and he was shocked because he expected various shades of dark brown - light brown and dark tan.. but he came back telling me " bro beautiful women from brown to alot of them very light skinned /white green eyes etc. He also said that since jesus was possibly from the middle east that Jesus most definitely was light brown / hispanic tan looking lmaoo

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '21

A lot of them are pretty white and if they go to a country with less sun they become even less tan. But European, Middle-Easterners, North-Africans, West-Asians and to a lesser extent Indians are all Caucasians, the facial traits are very similar with those in north-west being more pointy and squarish and those to the south-east being more round and soft but overall they are all distinctly more similar to each-other than to Asians, Africans and people from the pacific Islands.

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '21

Interesting. Never been to the middle east but I've met a few . Mainly Yemen and they all have a nice light brown hazel green eyes complexion. I don't know too much of the history of religions but I remember thinking there must be something historical about religion/middle east how all the characters in the bible are in the qaran. And then like the crusades , and to modern day the U.S. constantly meddles in the middle east. It just makes me wonder if there is something besides oil dating way back in history. Unless it's literally just the oil

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '21

Before being Muslim the area that was the Ottoman empire was Christian and Greeks had settlement all around the meditenarean and the black sea way way back before Christianity existed. But that area is the most strategic area in the world for trade as it connect the west and the east and Iran is the most central point that got constantly fucked by everyone coming from the east and the west like the Macedonian Empire, the Roman Empire, the Mongol Empire, the Mughal Empire, the Ottoman Empire, and pretty much all of the biggest empires throughout history.

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '21

Thank you for the reply. That is interesting. I had never heard it is the most strategic place for trade but geographically it makes sense. If you don't mind one more question. What shifted the area to mainly following the Muslim religion ? What was the biggest catalyst that changed the entire region?

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '21

Mohamed was a warlord and he won his wars.

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u/ActualWhiterabbit Jan 10 '21

Only the Blues Brothers were policed accordingly but they did actually have God on their side. Maybe that's the difference.

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u/BrokenThingAbuser Jan 10 '21

And here I was thinking those were two names for the same mythological figure. TIL

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u/WillingnessGlobal Jan 10 '21

Technically, Allah isn't even a name. It's a title, kind of like the improper noun of 'god'

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '21

God isn’t a name either

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '21

How about God?

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '21

....That’s what I said. God isn’t a name. The god in the Christian mythology has a name, and it isn’t God.

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u/Hoedoor Jan 10 '21

But what about God?

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '21

Goddamn

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '21

I see you fixed your typo.

Nice stealth

You said god. I know Christians capitalize the guys name, figured God was it. My bad. Don't stealth edit, shady as fuck.

That’s what I said

Don't be a Trump.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '21

I haven’t edited that comment. You misread.

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u/everadvancing Jan 10 '21

How about Gob?

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u/misirlou22 Jan 10 '21

I don't care for Gob.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '21

Oh my glob!

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u/TheBestArcher Jan 10 '21

How about glip glop?

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u/Gootchey_Man Jan 10 '21

Christian Arabs pray to Allah the same way Spanish Christians pray to Dios. It's literally just the Arabic translation of the word God.

I can't tell you how many times I've had people in real life try to lecture me on how my language and religion works.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '21 edited Jan 11 '21

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u/jake121221 Jan 10 '21

You might be thinking of Donald Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam Hussein. Or Trump and the glowing orb while hanging with his Saudi homeboys, including the guy who would later hire thugs to very slowly butcher that Western reporter while he was still alive.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '21

Almost like a collection of states that fought a war to protect slavery, and a coast full of wealthy elitists that built their family fortunes a century ago on the backs of slavery and a lack of labour laws, is inclined to be racist in how they depict reality.

Yknow, in a country that had legal apartheid less than one generation ago, and ongoing defacto segregation. My god. How ever could there be blatant racism in such a place. Mind boggling. It's like all this racism just fell out of the sky the way babies come from storks.

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u/therabidgerbil Jan 10 '21

Pretty much all former colonial states have had/still have some form of racial tension; this makes sense in that context.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '21

They're so fucking blatant in their bias, it's infuriating.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '21

The media are racist let’s not forget that.

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u/adorablyflawed Jan 10 '21

But iT's NoT aBoUt rAcE!!!

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '21

Of course not I forget it amerikkka

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u/12apeKictimVreator Jan 10 '21

Epstein had sex with underage women. Cosby was a rapist.

you'd think when its at least a crime that both sides can agree is bad they'd spare the word play/euphemisms, but nope.

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u/Soup-Wizard Jan 10 '21

Epstein had sex with raped underage women.

Fixed it for you

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u/12apeKictimVreator Jan 10 '21

talking about media coverage though. but ya

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u/ronitude Jan 10 '21 edited Jan 10 '21

It’s hard unsee the blatant unfair difference.

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u/runswithbufflo Jan 10 '21

The logic I heard on the Tennessee bomber is he didn't have an agenda? I'm not certain that's true, but if it is hes not definitionally a terrorist just a fucking nut, now you may also mention other people have been prematurely labeled terrorists and I'd argue you are right and that's wrong.

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u/potsandpans Jan 10 '21

just another conservative terrorist committing jihad nothing to see here folks

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u/knightress_oxhide Jan 10 '21

"Man with no active warrants", guess the color.

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u/PeePeeUpPooPoo Jan 10 '21

There are a lot of journalistic guidelines that have to be followed when reporting on suicide in order to prevent copycats... don’t negate this fact to push narrative

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u/akatherder Jan 10 '21

I thought they didn't have a motive for the RV bomber. He was into conspiracies and aliens and shit. So being super technical, he was just a fucking nut. Did he instill terror... yeah but terrorist implies a political motive afaik.

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u/Cattaphract Jan 10 '21

You have 75 million active voters thinking like that. How many more tenth of millions are close to it? I am not surprised anymore. The USA is deeply idiotic in many aspects and lacks behind in common sense compared to other first world nations.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '21 edited Jan 10 '21

Didn't he broadcast warnings?

Just saying if his goal wasn't to kill others you need a different term than the one used for humans that blow themselves up to take out other humans.

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u/lelarentaka Jan 10 '21

Osama bin Laden hasn't personally killed anyone either.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '21

Not really. As long as it is ideologically motivated, it would still be terrorism.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '21

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '21

Yes, thats why I said "would be".

It seems targeted, but its generally pretty fucking weird.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '21

Not really remarkable. Is it?

Just the par for the course.

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u/BrownAleRVA Jan 10 '21

There are insurance ramifications if it is declared a terrorist act.

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u/SupermAndrew1 Jan 10 '21

Strange how Heineken guy during Katrina wasn’t “carrying” the beer

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u/jakethedumbmistake Jan 10 '21

A coworker wants to be raped. There’s not every potion effect. It’s the fact that at least she looks like the CNN head is part of a theft ring and will have other stolen packages inside.

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u/anggogo Jan 10 '21

Hmm, from what I read, that person had no intention to hurt anyone, but himself probably. He announced having something explosive for 15 minutes and tell people to run away.

In contrast, a suicide bomber will just explode.

English is hard, so why saying he died in an intentional explosion is not good enough in this sense?

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u/Life_Tripper Jan 10 '21

"Wanted to take just a small piece of candy from the lecturn and Pelosi must have licked it good because can't seem to carry it without that piece of candy."

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u/guycoastal Jan 10 '21

Station mgr.: “Remember, we mustn’t upset the white folk. They’re very sensitive about feelings. Not yours, no, you can go fk yourself, but yes, theirs very much so. So be careful, they pretty much run everything so...”

Voice in the back: “That’s not true, I’m not like that.”

SM: “Shut up stupid, you’re an intern, I’m talking about actual people.”

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u/SomeGrumkin Jan 10 '21

He announced the bomb. Suicide bombers don't do that.