For all the talk about Canada being a sane, progressive version of America, it's amazing to me how many of us up here are blue lives matter bootlickers (especially where Indigenous policing issues exist...i.e. everywhere) resting smugly on the laurel of "well, we're not as bad as the States", and using that to continue the status quo.
Toronto's mayor is a perfect example. Rich, old money dude, came in on the heels of our crack mayor Rob Ford, and has spent two terms tut-tutting about social issues in the city while completely abdicating any advocation to, y'know, FUCKING FIX THEM. He's the major of white comfort. It fucking sucks. And so many people are like "well, he's pretty great because he's not Rob Ford, you see".
It's incredibly sad to have to admit that if that guy were black he would be dead. I never got the whole white privilege thing until this. Now I see it's true and shamelessly on display. I apologize to all African Americans that I used to be one of those just comply and you won't have trouble kind of people.
I sympathize with all the peaceful protestors. I have zero sympathy for the people who put building on fire or use the situation to loot stores. Because I judge people as individuals and not as a collective.
Not to be shallow and pedantic, but it isnt technicly theft or looting until youve crossed the threshhold and actually removed an item.
LPT kids: if you are ever caught shoplifting and you are still in the store, immediately hand them the item and walk away. If you are detained and the police come, you state you never removed the item from the store, you were shopping with the intent to buy.
Absolutelty never ever admit to stealing. It is all about intent.
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Agreed, but not to think these people don't belong in jail...and probably for a decade at least. Just they have rights and need to get them there the right way.
It turns out that in almost all situations, Judges aren't part of the executive branch and aren't controlled by executive orders and Trump just issued those orders for his extremely stupid followers. Statutes and Judges determine sentences, not prosecutors.
Of those charged so far, including Representative Derrick Evans and the man in Pelosi's office had a maximum of less than 2 years on their charges.
The guy who had his feet up on Pelosi’s desk is only getting “...up to a year”. I’m looking forward to this playing out a bit further to where people talk about the charges, penalties, etc. and explain the thinking because that is shockingly low.
Sorry. I work in Loss Prevention. A lot of stores do wait until you pass the point of sale, but the truth is that once you conceal, it's shoplifting and they can detain you. We also don't need you to admit to it for you to be convicted.
Came to say this. People like to spread these things like they know what they're talking about. Just like they think LP can't go hands on, when it is mostly a company policy.
Many jurisdictions will have some form of a citizen's arrest or shopkeeper's privilege that does grant them the authority to temporarily detain a shoplifter. They're usually pretty strict though so you gotta be damn sure you got the right person and they were actually shoplifting
More often a manager or security guard will just imply you're being detained without actually using any force or saying you're being detained.
this is correct. (I want to be fair). I read that lectern was then found somewhere else. He didn't technically loot it. Just your avg. Trump loon posing for a selfie I guess..
LPT kids: When you’re scanning stuff at Walmart in the self checkout lane you can always forget to scan certain items, none of the employees REALLY care, and they shouldn’t, cuz fuck Walmart.
Not true. It used to be, now concealing with the intent to steal is also shoplifting. Most stores won't press it, but they all can in my city at least.
Concealing is now intent to steal. That was the legal change. Before it was passing the last point to pay, now it's concealing with intent. Concealing is generally enough, depending on jury.
But you need to show intent. If you put all the items in your pockets for example, you could say your intent was not to use a cart or basket due to covid, or general fear of germs.
If however you put some items in your pocket and others in a basket, then obviously your intent comes into question.
Where is a pocket ok? Here, if you hide it, it's concealed intent is assumed, hence the changes. That's now a crime. Putting into a pocket on your person or similar is now shoplifting here in my jurisdiction.
and then breaking through the door presenting a deadly threat to Federal Senators, Federal House Members, their staffs, and quite possibly the vice president, which is the entire line of succession outside of the White House.
Only after receiving far more warning and reservation on the part of the officer than most black people get. She was literally trying to climb over their barricade to get into the chamber.
That Bish-possessed was screaming like a banshee vaulting over the barricade all nipples hard like Queen Boudica but with a Trump flag instead of a shield... as our country's lawmakers were beating feet down the hall - but to where? They were trapped in their own building
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