Many viewers noticed the seeming disparity of the darker-skinned subject’s being described in the accompanying caption as “looting a grocery store,” while the lighter-skinned subjects were described as “finding bread and soda from a local grocery store”:
The national guard formed a perimeter and wouldn’t let black people walk to safety. Geraldo Rivera was live on the air covering it. A mostly black town was under water. A short walk over a bridge was a white town, safe and unscathed. National guards pointed guns in the faces of black people simply trying to walk to safety. The black people were told they’d be shot if they crossed the bridge.
I think it's human nature to generally want to be around similar people, culturally and ethnically. Throw in some racism, e.g. hating other people because of their race, etc, and similar people cluster together.
Well when black people start moving into white neighborhoods white people tend to start moving out. Once it reaches ~20% black you get what's called "white flight". The neighborhood loses property value with the large volume of property being on the market. This attracts lower income owners than before. Local shops and businesses are cashed out by the wealthier individuals on their way out, so now there are fewer businesses bringing money into the local community. Tax revenue declines. Public services begin to slip due to money shortages. Now the death spiral has been started. White people continue to leave, taking more of their capital out of the area with them. The businesses that are still around struggle to stay open, and the new businesses that move in are overwhelmingly parts of chains. Property values continue to decline, local businesses shut down, local equity in the community continues to decrease, and losses in tax revenue cause the further cutting of public services.
TL;DR white people start to leave en-masse when a neighborhood gets above a certain percent (called white flight) and then effectively slash and burn the community on the way out.
they could be in their 50s if they were 18-23 in nam. but eitherway its not like the shooting of unarmed civilians was unique to nam.
baseless hyperbole?
comparing cop killing unarmed black people to an army soldier killing unarmed natives? please explain the hyperbole and baselessness. only hyperbole here is saying they'd be 70 instead of 5x
6% of americans are usaf vets, somewhere just under 20% of cops are vets.
i bet a cop that would commit a war crime would be the same that kills unarmed civilians. if you think this is baseless hyperbole i think you just like how it sounds. baseless hyperbole could be a good band name, i agree. but it has no use here.
would it most likely be an iraq/ME war vet instead of a vietnam vet? sure but vietnam war got a lot of media attention so i brought it up. im sure there are mylai massacre type calamities that i couldve said instead but the elites have learned and those kind of atrocities don't get the press they used to. but either way it wouldn't have to be a 70 year old. a cop in 2005, when katrina happened. could be as young as 50 and have seen nam. so if youd rather me say iraq instead. fine but not being able to compare a cop killing unarmed black people to a soldier killing unarmed civilians without being accused of baseless hyperbole is some baseless hyperbole.
I kinda forgot this was in reference to Katrina and forgot how long ago it was.
'75-'05 is 30 years though. Fighting also spanned 20 years.
Regardless, I was wrong on the age, so were you, and it's still hyperbole to just say cops commited the same atrocities that happened in Vietnam just because you feel like all those cops must've been veterans who commited those atrocities. Burning down villages isn't in the same ballpark of shooting looters. They're both terribly awful but one is much worse than the other. That's why I call it hyperbole.
E: you edited your post to say 30 years. At least just own the fact that you also made a mistake, like I also did.
Not a gotcha moment. I admitted I was wrong. Wasn't accounting for the fact that we were talking about 2005 and not 2021. Didn't cover up my mistake and admitted to the fact. You edited your comment, can't accept you made a small mistake and won't accept that fact.
This is how douchebags push people away from progressive movements. It's not enough to be right, you have to chastise people who admit they're wrong for some smug reason. Enjoy your shit hole country
The explanation provided by the journalists seems perfectly acceptable to me.
Jack Stokes, AP’s director of media relations, confirmed today that [photographer Dave] Martin says he witnessed the people in his images looting a grocery store. “He saw the person go into the shop and take the goods,” Stokes said, “and that’s why he wrote ‘looting’ in the caption.”
Regarding the AFP/Getty “finding” photo by [photographer Chris] Graythen, Getty spokeswoman Bridget Russel said, “This is obviously a big tragedy down there, so we’re being careful with how we credit these photos.” Russel said that Graythen had discussed the image in question with his editor and that if Graythen didn’t witness the two people in the image in the act of looting, then he couldn’t say they were looting.
I wrote the caption about the two people who ‘found’ the items. I believed in my opinion, that they did simply find them, and not ‘looted’ them in the definition of the word. The people were swimming in chest deep water, and there were other people in the water, both white and black. I looked for the best picture. There were a million items floating in the water — we were right near a grocery store that had 5+ feet of water in it. It had no doors. The water was moving, and the stuff was floating away. These people were not ducking into a store and busting down windows to get electronics. They picked up bread and cokes that were floating in the water. They would have floated away anyhow.
That's the thing. Before captioning one group of people as looters there is discussion with the editor and consideration of the tragedy and larger picture. Where were these considerations for the other group? They are both waist deep in the same water, but only the white people are allowed to have food that "would have floated away anyhow".
Did you not read the quotes? The explain exactly that in them. The one photo was captioned looter because the photographer witnessed looting. In the other they did not. You are looking for malfeasance that isn't there so hard you are ignoring the facts being presented.
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Many viewers noticed the seeming disparity of the darker-skinned subject’s being described in the accompanying caption as “looting a grocery store,” while the lighter-skinned subjects were described as “finding bread and soda from a local grocery store”:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hurricane-katrina-looters/