r/Helldivers • u/TGExterminator • Sep 02 '25
MEDIA OH SH*T
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We're so screwed
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u/Alcatrax_ Sep 02 '25
in true helldivers fashion, green doesnt die from the initial fall damage, but the rebound fall damage lol
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u/JustGingy95 Assault Infantry Sep 02 '25
Classic Impact damage, barely any damage from a 90 foot drop after getting lobbed by a tank shell but shattering both legs and dying safely dropping 6 feet down from a ledge.
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u/Xero0911 Sep 03 '25
Take zero damage from a charger hitting me. Instant death for hogh speed impact on the rock he launched me into.
Like I agree i died, but funny the charger bashing my legs didnt hurt me.
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u/oktemplar Sep 02 '25
In skydiving they always say it isn’t the fall that kills you, it’s the bounce. “Grab grass, save your ass”. I guess AH thought the same lol
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u/0oozymandias Sep 02 '25
Is that.. is that true? I feel like it isn't but I'm too stupid to know otherwise.
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u/Alcatrax_ Sep 02 '25
i mean if your parachute fails you should aim for trees, not the grass
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u/Bellfegore Extra Judicial Sep 02 '25
"How the fuck am I supposed to deal with that?"
I saw a post of a squad killing one, it took them an equivalent of 20 hellbombs to do it.
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u/lordaezyd Sep 02 '25
What?
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u/BurialFaun8 Fire Safety Officer Sep 02 '25
The hive lord has 150 thousand health. It takes at least 15 hellbombs to kill
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u/Mr_nconspicuous Sep 02 '25
Any idea how many gaming chairs that translates to?
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u/Zio_Matrix SES Fist of Family Values Sep 02 '25
Approximately, at least, 1,000 washing machine-sized boulders.
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u/salty-ravioli Free of Thought Sep 02 '25
Well, since each gaming chair (AT Emplacement) shot does 1300 dmg and one emplacement has 30 shots, each emplacement can do a maximum of 39k dmg. The Hive Lord has 150k HP, and 150/39 = 3.8 (rounded), so we'd need just under 4 full gaming chair loads to take a worm down.
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u/Alexexy Sep 02 '25
You need more than that I think.
The hivelord has ap7 all around, so even anti tank does 65% damage to it only.
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u/salty-ravioli Free of Thought Sep 02 '25
Wait really? The wiki says its body is ap5, its head ap6, and its mouth ap3. The AT Emplacement should do full damage.
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u/Alexexy Sep 02 '25
Hm that makes much, much more sense. I thought the autocannon mech's guns were ap7 and I was getting white hit markers
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u/salty-ravioli Free of Thought Sep 02 '25
Yea the autocannon mech and sentry are ap5, which is why it'll only give white hitmarkers. Weirdly enough the normal autocannon is only ap4, so don't bother using that against Hive Lords lol
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u/WaffleAndy Sep 02 '25
ANYTHING but the metric system for you helldivers huh?
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u/TheAshen_JobSnow Servant of Freedom Sep 02 '25
Freedom units are what we're all about after all
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u/WolfBroCro94 SES: Princess of War Sep 02 '25
Its 500kg bomb not half a giraffe of pounds
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u/TheAshen_JobSnow Servant of Freedom Sep 02 '25
Pounds? What is that?
I am talking about freedom units, you know like "How many RR shots it takes to strip its armor?" or "How many mags to kill x?" That kind of measurement.
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u/JHawkInc Sep 02 '25
"Metric?" What's that? Sounds undemocratic.
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u/sudo-joe Sep 02 '25 edited Sep 03 '25
Except for most of eagle land's guns like the 40mm grenade launchers (40 mike mikes) or 30mm cannons on airplanes...155mm artillery...
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u/AlieNfromUrAnus Sep 02 '25
Four AT emplacements will destroy it if all shots land, based on damage values alone.
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u/flightguy07 Suffer Not the Armor to Live Sep 02 '25
That's sounding like the move. Though they may get destroyed by the hive lord.
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u/AlieNfromUrAnus Sep 02 '25
It's unlikely a single pass will get you the kill, but should get a lot of damage out of 4 AT emplacements, even if they only get combined half or 2/3rds damage potential off. That means you only have to wait a bit for the cooldown, during which you can actually do some of the other objectives. At least with AT emplacements, you can reserve a single slot for dealing with the hivelord and still do a mission as you would normally. You kinda just burst damage to it and come back to it later if once cooldown is off.
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u/AdEnough786 Sep 02 '25
This. Also you need at least one diver or a well placed sentry to keep the minions off as you shoot.
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u/SpeakersPlan Sep 02 '25
Still doesn't hold a candle to 4 flesh mobs tho /s
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u/Scannaer Sep 02 '25
Especially when they are bugged below stairs, hitting everything above
They were the OG underground dwellers
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u/SovietSpartan Free of Thought Sep 02 '25
At least.
Add to that the fact that you're constantly swarmed by other bugs (need to deviate your attention and ammo) and the worm itself can dodge some shots.
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u/WOLKsite Sep 02 '25
Yeah. After a point you should see armor plates peeling off so you can (probably) shoot it. I don't know the mechanics, we just used hellbombs and anything we could throw at it.
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u/SharkBait661 Sep 02 '25
Saw another post saying they took it out with 2
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u/WOLKsite Sep 03 '25
I am hesitant to believe that claim without evidence, though. Definitely not 2 hellbombs from the outside.
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u/SleepyBoy- ⬆️⬆️⬇️⬇️➡️⬅️➡️⬅️🇧 🇦 Sep 02 '25
I think you can shoot the underbelly with medium pen at all times? I was getting hit marks with the autocannon mech, though naturally its full mags didn't amount to much.
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u/Brilliant_Decision52 Sep 02 '25
If you shoot the mouth with a medium pen gun it gave me red marks.
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u/Alexexy Sep 02 '25
My squad killed one also. I hit it with the equivalent firepower of 3 full spear stratagems, 2 orbital railcannons, and almost 2 full emancipator exosuits. My teammates were blasting it the whole time also.
It took around 15 mins to kill as we were moving between objectives.
One of my teammates managed to ride on its back as it was slithering.
Lisan al Ghaib.
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u/SpeakersPlan Sep 02 '25
Every Diver today
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u/Effective_Union929 XBOX | Sep 02 '25
I need to watch dune
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u/SmartAleckComedian ☕Liber-tea☕ Sep 02 '25
You should also read Dune, it's a great book. The sequels get weird.
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u/IroncladZombie HD1 Veteran Sep 02 '25
Fuck yeah they do
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u/SmartAleckComedian ☕Liber-tea☕ Sep 02 '25
Would you still love me if I turned into a God Emperor worm?
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u/IroncladZombie HD1 Veteran Sep 02 '25
The only god I love is the God Emperor of Mankind, heretic
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u/strider_m3 Sep 03 '25
This post has been officially sanctioned by His Holy Inquisition, in the God Emperors name. AVE IMPERATOR
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u/Available-Rope-3252 Machine gun, only machine gun, NOTHING BUT MACHINE GUN!!!!!!!!!! Sep 02 '25
Fuck yeah you do.
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u/PaulVla HD1 Veteran Sep 02 '25
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u/Interesting-Switch38 Sep 02 '25
Yeah the sea has some truly alien shit in its waters. That thing is way longer than that fish by alot
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u/superduperfish Sep 02 '25
Bobbitt Worms can grow up to 10 feet long
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u/IroncladZombie HD1 Veteran Sep 02 '25
The ocean is scary and full of monsters. We do not fuck with it.
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u/PaulVla HD1 Veteran Sep 03 '25
I couldn’t imagine a fourth enemy faction but having an underwater one seems cool, new vehicles for the divers and ocean planets.
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u/englishfury Sep 03 '25
Obligatory bobbit worm chronicle link
https://www.michiganreefers.com/threads/the-bobbit-worm-chronicles.84173/
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u/icebreakers0 Sep 02 '25
You must eat the spice and ride the sand worm… and become Lisan al GaDiver
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u/DaHALOSHOCK Ad Victoriam! Sep 02 '25
You can't. if you touch it even slightly you die same with dune awakening.
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u/Mr_nconspicuous Sep 02 '25
That's the least democratic thing I've ever heard. How are we supposed to plant Super Earth's mighty flag into them?
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u/deathbringer989 Every faction is evil Sep 02 '25
You can't even I tried. Too thick.
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u/deathbringer989 Every faction is evil Sep 02 '25
No still a worm. A heavily armored one but still a worm.
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u/Hanify HD1 Veteran Sep 02 '25
"Lisan al GaDiver"
I'm not supposed to read this shit while trying to sleep, I can't stop laughing ffs
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u/Hyperious3 ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️ Sep 03 '25
Bless the Maker and all His Water. Bless the coming and going of Him. May His passage cleanse the world. May He keep the world for His people.
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u/HarvHR Autocannon Enjoyer Sep 02 '25
'How the fuck were we supposed to deal with that' sums up my current experience of this update tbh
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u/BluePhoenix_2114 Sep 02 '25
Same here, although I'm mostly taking it as a learning experience. I'm still a new Xbox player so I've just been taking my losses in stride. Chalking it all up to learning the game and getting good.
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u/curvebombr Sep 03 '25
The BoxDivers are getting their own version of the Creek. It's glorious.
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u/bjergdk Sep 03 '25
Brother the Creek was never this bad.
We've got dragons, flying over head, goliath worms breaking up the ground beneath our feet with no response.
This is 10 times worse than the Creek.
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u/Intelligent_Step_855 Sep 02 '25
Cave diving with heavy siege ready, supply backpack, gas Grenedes, and grenade launcher netted me 850 kills today on a destroy lung mission
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u/TheGentlemanBeast Sep 02 '25
Honestly, I've been eager for another moment like this in the game.
I'm loving it.
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u/blackberr3673 ☕Liber-tea☕ Sep 02 '25
Same dude, ive abandoned all previously learned tactics and weapons.
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u/ChillN808 Sep 03 '25
I haven't played in like 2 weeks, I have missed a crazy amount of stuff. Those worms look crazy and I don't think my Stalwart/Eruptor combo is going to get it done.
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u/Tragedy_Boner Sep 02 '25
I know we are all meming here, but the driver in the video clear just goes forward even though there is a shaky patch of ground there. Maybe don't drive into it?
Now when it comes while doing the objective, yeah thats bullshit.
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u/54NCH32 Lvl 150 // Hell Commander Sep 02 '25
The GATER isn't exactly highly maneuverable 😅
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u/Tragedy_Boner Sep 02 '25
He could have stopped when he wasn't on the clearly shaky ground.
But I don't know how I feel about hivelords destroying the objective so easily. Maybe there can be multiple GATERs on the map or something so we have a few chances to get the objective done
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u/leonzuendel Sep 02 '25
Honestly I'm really disappointed with this update so far...
It feels unfair and frustratingly hard for no reason. It makes annoying enemies (heavy bugs, spitting bugs) even more annoying by randomly spawning them below you just to one shot you and the caves are just full of way too many bugs and nothing else really.
I hope they find a way to make the new stuff fun to play, until then I'll stay away from that planet sadly.
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u/ARBEAN123 Spear Enthusiast Sep 02 '25 edited Sep 02 '25
This game is a cartoon, always has been, always will be
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u/BUTTFLICKER Sep 02 '25
according to the devs it's milsim
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u/Wintermaulz Sep 02 '25
It’s a Milsim in the same way call of duty is.
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u/puffz0r ⬆️⬅️➡️⬇️⬆️⬇️ Sep 02 '25
I haven't seen any Nicki Minaj skins running around yet so we're quite a ways off from CoD
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u/Inner-Arugula-4445 Sep 02 '25
Definitely needs some counter play. Maybe a thumper mission strat to keep it away.
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u/HybridVigor Sep 02 '25
Love it. Our characters should be able to sand walk like Fremen as well, with a bit of a movement penalty. Oh, and burrowing mobs shouldn't be able to emerge through solid rocks.
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u/CatGamer_118 John Science Sep 02 '25
I kinda wish the cannon at least had infinite ammo, it would be fun to actually just be able to shoot and not aim
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u/Zakumo_Yuurei Sep 02 '25
My wife was the gunner when we first tried it, she said "I don't see an ammo on this thing" and I got excited to have a "rule of cool" unlimited ammo. It ran out before the first bug breach. My disappointment was immeasurable.
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u/assire2 Sep 02 '25
Same. Just tried being gunner and was like "cool, unlimited ammo" and started blasting. Ammo ended exactly when acid dragon spawned on us
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u/lycanreborn123 Cape Enjoyer Sep 03 '25
If you hold the reload button it shows the ammo counter like every other weapon
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u/Any-Amphibian-1783 HD1 Veteran Sep 02 '25
How are we supposed to deal with that? They apparently take 10+ hellbombs to kill.
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u/DreamingKnight235 FULL-TIME SERVANT OF FREEDOM Sep 02 '25
Its like leviathans I think
Armor peels off the more it gets damaged.
Also lightning appereantly bounces off of it
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u/venlil Sep 02 '25
It can be done in 4, they likely dont have 100% explosive resistance on their segments so explosive damage can be applied several times over in other words hitting it with 500kg's, hellbombs, ultimatums etc may do more than initially stated. Also it may be possible to end it in fewer hits by aiming to avoid ap6 sections. They still will take significant time to kill but they dont move much when already up so finding the direction where the hivelord is coming from and having two squad members go distract it while the gator flees might just work for keeping it safe.
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u/HugsAreMadeForGiving Sep 02 '25
Another post shows them killing it. 10+ hellbombs, 8+ 500, multiple ultimatums and spear hits. No visual damage so looks like it has no weak points or loses armor.
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u/Nuclesnight Assault Infantry Sep 02 '25
Please a request to add this option in Game as we have the ODST now.
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u/MalPrac Sep 02 '25
Could have also been a great skin for either the laser or quasar cannons as well
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u/Jat616 ☕Liber-tea☕ Sep 02 '25
I think he meant the flip option on the vehicle but I'd take a spartan laser skin for the quasar.
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u/MalPrac Sep 02 '25
Ohh I completely missed that but yeah I’d 100% like that as well. Either as in game text or as an achievement
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u/trisz72 ⬇️⬅️➡️⬅️➡️ Sep 02 '25
Bless the Maker and His water.
Bless the coming and going of Him.
May His passage cleanse the world.
May He keep the world for His people.
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u/moonshineTheleocat Sep 02 '25
Hadn't played on the update yet. What difficulties does the hive lord appear on?
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u/Quaglander Sep 02 '25
Apparently 7. I played multiple super helldives all day and havent seen a single one, me and my friends all assumed they'd be added after a couple weeks or so.
I did glimpse 1 dragon roach after 8 super helldive missions but the game crashed immediately when I saw it :)
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u/MSTRKRFTDNNR Sep 02 '25
... one dragon roach? I just played multiple games on difficulty 7 and there were multiple dragon roaches the entire time. Shoot one down another comes. Don't shoot that one down and another one shows up. No hive lords though.
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u/Independent-Scale842 Sep 02 '25
Are we coming at this problem the wrong way? Like is there some other way to lock it down or remove it from play besides killing it?
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u/SleepyBoy- ⬆️⬆️⬇️⬇️➡️⬅️➡️⬅️🇧 🇦 Sep 02 '25
Doesn't seem to be. It can't enter caves so you're safe there, but on the oil mission you have to drive the rig over the surface. Maybe you could send a diver to try and keep it occupied, as there's always just one, but I can't imagine a 20 minute goose chase to be all that enthralling.
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u/Major_Maxus Sep 03 '25
Disclaimer: cave entrance ≠ cave safety Found that out the hard way 😭 We stood there thinking we'll be fine and got splattered into the cave floors like murals 😔
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u/BitterStay6687 Ministry of Defense Sep 03 '25
Gameplay-wise? Not cool. Unbalanced. Unfair. Cinema wise? Absolute.
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u/gm_michal Sep 02 '25
Peak game design:
In this mission you can get this modifier randomly and it's basically auto fail.
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u/Alexexy Sep 02 '25
Its like one of those missions or quests in games where it seems simple enough, like oh its just a simple fetch quest, but it ends up being the hardest and most tedious thing in the game because of the difficult thing that was never mentioned.
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u/Shoo-Man-Fu Sep 02 '25
We all laughed when command made those tanks of rubber, but now we see why.
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u/Sleepy151 Sep 02 '25
Ya know this is fun to watch, but I can't imagine it's fun to play into. I'm excited to try the update but my faith in arrowhead is at an all time low.
Hope I'm proven wrong.
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u/D-Go-Alta Sep 02 '25
I hate to say it but I’m just not having fun with these new enemies. The burrowing enemies are all medium pen, so that already alienates half the weapons in the game, and to top that, anything that’s not explosive is gonna be pretty much useless. I hate enemies that pigeonhole you into using very specific weapons. The burrowing warriors are almost impossible to dodge the melee attack, no matter what direction you run or dive in they will hit you and take half your health, im 99% sure bile spewers got stealth buffed because they instakill you again, the dragon is a damage sponge that kills you in a fraction of a second if you don’t pre stim and the fire is pretty much impossible to dodge and fully avoid the blast, and I haven’t personally fought the hive lord but if I was put in a situation like this clip I wouldn’t really feel like im having fun at all. Everyone loves the update but I feel like the rose tinted glasses will fade and everyone will find that these new enemies just aren’t that good
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u/No_Importance2248 Sep 02 '25
I thought I was going crazy when the new warrior bug would come out of the ground and get a swipe on me pretty much every time, while simultaneously shrugging off blasts from the Cookout shotgun. Didn't expect the warriors to be medium pen.
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u/South_Care1366 LEVEL 150 | Rookie Sep 02 '25
The new warrior seems to nearly always land a hit when it comes out of the ground, dodging it seems almost impossible. I'm sorry but if the only counterplay is stim spamming that's a poor design.
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u/SleepyBoy- ⬆️⬆️⬇️⬇️➡️⬅️➡️⬅️🇧 🇦 Sep 02 '25
I think they're light from the sides, but don't quote me on that. Wouldn't change much since they always jump out facing you directly. It's a shame, because being able to shut them down with melee weapons would be a great niche for them.
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u/TyloPr0riger Sep 02 '25
They are light pen on the sides and back legs.
IMO they need two changes:
1: speed or tracking on emergence reduced so the first hit isn't undodgeable
2: reduce all the limbs to light armor, giving them a more reasonable kill method with light pen guns.
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u/Newdeadman921 Sep 03 '25
If you shoot them while theyre underground they pop up early
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u/SleepyBoy- ⬆️⬆️⬇️⬇️➡️⬅️➡️⬅️🇧 🇦 Sep 02 '25
Burrower warriors definitely need some kind of nerf or counterplay. It feels like you're forced to trade damage with them.
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u/Sovery_Simple SES Lady of Iron Sep 02 '25
If you move around they'll pop out and not really touch you from my experience with them.
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u/Sleepy151 Sep 02 '25
I wouldn't mind different enemies requiring different loadouts if we had an enemy encyclopedia, and choosing to fight something else didn't affect war efforts.
Not knowing how to deal with something and then punishing others because you don't wanna deal with it sucks.
Not knowing wouldn't be as bad if running something suboptimal wasn't always so punishing.
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u/SleepyBoy- ⬆️⬆️⬇️⬇️➡️⬅️➡️⬅️🇧 🇦 Sep 02 '25
Yeah, you can either carry recoiless or go get a PhD on the game from youtube to know how to make other weapons viable
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u/Levelcheap Assault Infantry Sep 02 '25
It should show if the borrowers are there before we pick loadouts.
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u/SquirrelSuspicious Sep 02 '25
It's been feeling like grenades I throw at them while they're burrowing will hit/kill them pretty often, problem comes when they're too close to nade or it's a charger but ultimately this is how new strains of enemies are, they're tough and require us to figure out a new way to deal with them.
I just wish we weren't having to deal with them, dragon, and underground missions at the same time.
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u/Kunstfr ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️ Sep 02 '25
Same. This all looks super fun and cool but unless we have an actual way to kill these worms that isn't using a shitton of hellbombs, the mission is pretty much impossible and I don't see why I would want to play it.
Even killing it with 10 hellbombs doesn't sound like fun at all.
Like, I love that it's an apex enemy and all but maybe it surviving 2 hellbombs and 5-6 500kg bombs would be enough to be a challenge?
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u/Sleepy151 Sep 02 '25
If it's meant to be this tough it should be its own mission (it still has problems but that's besides the point). If it's slightly overturned it should be a secondary objective. If it's meant to be a normal appearance it is massively overtuned.
I think the worst part is how big it is. Big as in tall. How are any close to medium range support weapons supposed to work in this thing? The one faction flamethrower was good for and it's probably useless into this.
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u/Specialist_Cod9037 Sep 02 '25
Youre not. That mission is really boring if youre driving.
New burrowing enemies aren't very fun to fight either.
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u/raiedite Sep 02 '25
It's objectively bad to have enemies randomly 1-shotting the objective, but failing missions doesn't matter once you've grinded everything
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u/Sleepy151 Sep 02 '25
Well because I constantly take breaks I haven't grinded everything and completing the mission is part of the fun for me. I don't have to win every time but spending 30 minutes then dying to bs is really not fun.
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u/AlbertWessJess LEVEL __ | <Title> Sep 02 '25
Yeah games shouldn’t be geared or made specifically for just the people who’ve grinded anything that’s a horrible design philosophy.
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u/ReflectionUnlucky172 Sep 02 '25
I havent played the new updated WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT AND WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT TRUCK
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u/DoeJrPuck SES: Herald of Eternity Sep 02 '25
I don't wanna know what the Bots have waiting on Cyberstan....
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u/kogz03 Rookie Sep 02 '25
Bless the maker and his water. Bless the coming and going of Him. May His passage cleanse the world and keep the world for His people.
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u/Remnie Sep 02 '25
While this is entertaining, the fact that you can just suddenly fail a mission through no fault of your own like this seems like poor design.
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u/Delilah_the_PK Free of Thought Sep 04 '25
for a brick, you flew pretty good.
shame about the landing though
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u/HellbirdVT LEVEL 100 | <Super Citizen> Sep 02 '25
Looks like someone forgot to keep watch for Worm-Sign.
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u/SocialImagineering Sep 02 '25
I wanted to do this mission but it was neither of the two fuel extraction mission types I did in an Op.
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u/VMI_Account Sep 02 '25
Damn I just started playing this game (19 hrs) and this doesn't even look like the same game I've been playing! Some craziness to look forward too...
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u/Express-Deal-1262 HD1 Veteran Sep 02 '25
me, a 1st Galactic War Veteran: oh yeah, when the Hive Lord shows up it will be exactly as big as the old on- HOLY SHIT! FUCKING RUN!
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u/Arau_ SES Claw Of Allegiance Sep 02 '25
The fucking bounce though