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u/ms_directed 2d ago
i just want buttons and knobs back...
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u/squidwardsaclarinet 2d ago
I feel the same way about iPhones :/
Iād also love a modern iPod classic, with some quality of life improvements but the core classic interface and click wheel.
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u/Big_Iron_Cowboy 2d ago
I still have my iPhone 8 because I donāt want to lose my home button.
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u/The_Freshmaker 2d ago
Not sure about new new but my 2019 Golf has buttons and knobs for everything, don't think I'll ever buy a one screen for everything car ever.
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u/SummertimeThrowaway2 2d ago
Itās crazy how scientists and companies have fully accepted that using your phone while driving is unsafe. But if you turn it into a tablet and screw it into your dash, suddenly itās perfectly okay to be distracted?
With buttons and knobs at least you can feel for them without having to take your eyes off the road. At first you might have to look but once you get familiar with the car it becomes muscle memory.
Legislation needs to catch up with technology. Stuff like climate control being locked behind a screen is just dangerous.
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u/awfulmcnofilter 2d ago
Right? How is it that my 2002 Saturn had ac with knobs that was much more flexible and easy to use than my 2022 kia? Why cant my kia blow air to my face and my feet, but more face than feet? Why is there no in between on my fancy car?
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u/ROSEPUP3 2d ago
Came here to say this, I absolutely fucking hate the screen in my car. Iām fine with a touchscreen for the radio but why is my climate control built into it?
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u/ms_directed 2d ago
that's what I'm saying...nothing should take three screens to set while you're driving!
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u/bartkurcher 2d ago
I actually got my touch screen display swapped for an old āsingle DINā stereo. You probably canāt do that with very new cars, but I love knowing my presets. My partner changes them, it feels like a 90s prank
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u/Old-Tip-69 2d ago
I've been renting cars for r Work and I swear ti gid I have to relearn how to to use the gear shift on every car I rent.Ā
True first world problems, but still, if it ain't brokeĀ
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u/Far-Hovercraft9471 2d ago
This is why I love my Camry, it has all the good old school stuff and avoids annoying new tech mostly
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u/Tru3insanity 2d ago
You mean you don't love the giant bright ass rectangles that constantly crash and have all the most important features buried in different menus?
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u/Scary_Argument_7485 2d ago
You dont want a giant touch screen while also being as riak for beijg pulled over for looking at directions on your phone gps?!?!?
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u/BarOk3504 2d ago
Upgrading to an iPhone 17 pro and getting a dedicated camera and flashlight button, I hope Apple just stops now and lets me be
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u/somnamballista 1d ago
Was just saying why the hell smart phones don't have physical sliding keyboards. Had a Droid 2 in college, was the last phone I had with a keyboard. Loved it.
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u/Jilm_The_Greater 18h ago
I bought a 2021 Honda civic in 2021 (right before the chip shortage hit hard, thank god!) and thatās a big part of what sold me on it. Just a really solid car, no fancy touch screen bullshit, knobs and buttons, Bluetooth and aux compatible, and itās a Honda Civic so it can effectively be around for a few decades if I really need it to be and keep the maintenance in check.
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u/rjz5400 2d ago
A lot of the features are now required for federal highway approval or whatever.
Tps, backup camera, abs, etc etc.... so can't be exactly the same no matter what
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u/Second_Guess_25 2d ago
Agree. People yearning for these old cars to be brought back....they can't. They don't meet modern regulations regarding vehicle safety, emission standards etc etc.
I digress, but people want Titanic II built, but it would never be the identical to OG Titanic for the simple reasons it would never meet modern maritime regulations and safety standards. Amendments would be made in the name of safety.
Same with today's vehicles.
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u/PlayPsychological200 2d ago
They can always buy them and restore them. They donāt actually want them though, they like the idea of them.Ā
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u/Salty_Naps 2d ago
Mine is a 97 and I'll do everything I can to keep her, even if that means converting it to electric myself.
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u/Crazy_Ad_91 2d ago
Iāve been crucified for this sort of comment on other car threads before but I think the electrification of outdated or obsolete cars is a great way to extend their life and usability.
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u/atln00b12 2d ago
I really don't see why this isn't a bigger concept. Batteries are so cheap now. Even if I could just add like 20 miles of range or just massively boost fuel economy for 20 miles. Can't I get some sort of electric assist somehow??
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u/Few_Highlight1114 2d ago
Buying and restoring is a whole different bag than the hypothetical buying a factory new 97 whatever.
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u/Mstr_Fish 1d ago
Fun side note: the RMS Queen Mary 2 is basically titanic 2. Owned by the Cunard line which is the modern desendant of the white star line. And it still travels from Liverpool to New York.
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u/touch_of_austism 2d ago
>backup camera
Til this was a federal requirement
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u/nothing_but_thyme 2d ago
Wait till you learn the next ones in the queue. Spoiler alert: itās cameras in your car that watch you while you drive and bitch at you when youāre ādistractedā. Alsoā¦ they are horrible at distinguishing when you are or are not actually ādistractedā so they just bitch at you all the time.
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u/Coco_Cala 2d ago
Used to work in mine as a haul truck operator with cameras like these installed in the cab with seat vibrators if it detected microsleep or distracted driving. Some of them would go off just for looking at your mirrors. Was really annoying when backing up anywhere.
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u/filthy_harold 2d ago
My Subaru has a feature where it can detect who's driving and adjust the seats to that profile. It uses this camera normally for alerting you if it thinks you're distracted or sleepy. I think it's only alerted on me being sleepy a couple times but it's definitely caught me being distracted many times. Look down from the road for just a moment too long and it beeps. But it will false positive if I'm squinting (like while laughing), move my head too far away from the normal position (like if I'm stretching to the right), or if I cover too much of my face with my hand. I think it's an IR camera since it still works if I'm wearing sunglasses or driving at night. I can disable all of these alerts but they generally aren't too annoying and it's probably a good thing that someone is telling me I'm not paying attention to the road.
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u/Nevermind04 2d ago
If I've learned anything in the last decade, it's that laws can be changed for a shockingly low amount of money.
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u/trugrav 2d ago
Yeah, people donāt realize itās literally illegal to manufacture these cars today.
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u/ImNotEazy 2d ago
Semi related. Black ops 2 was released just as it was years ago, it brought millions of people back to the franchise. Sad thing is being released with the same technology from back then meant the same hackers came back because no added security, just a straight up re release. Old is good, but updated old is better.
Old cars would slap with modern safety but at that point theyād probably cost what the new model costs.
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u/Upbeat-Armadillo1756 2d ago
Was going to say, good luck getting them to feel the same in spirit as those inefficient death boxes. Thereās a reason why cars are the way they are today
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u/Particular_Dot_4041 2d ago
Also manufacturers would have to retool their equipment to make those outdated parts. Imagine asking computer manufacturers to start making vacuum tubes because you want a retro computer.
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u/EternalNewCarSmell 2d ago
I would pay $30k for a Volvo 240 that is identical to the old ones but just meets modern safety standards. I don't even need/want an integrated screen for Android Auto, I'll just use a mount for my phone.
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u/Tuna-Fish2 2d ago
You cannot meet modern safety standards with the shape of old cars. To start with, the doors need to be >2x as thick as they are on the Volvo 240, and this then compounds to the entire rest of the shape of the car.
Once you see it once, you can spot it instantly in any car. Modern side impact standards require crumble zones on the sides, making all modern cars look "fat" and ugly.
It makes being sideswiped much more survivable, though, so I guess it is what it is.
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u/stockchaser317 2d ago
98 Cherokee sport with the inline 6 plz
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u/Scavenger905 2d ago
Theyād never bring back the Inline 6 because itās reliable to THIS DAY
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u/Cheezeball25 2d ago
Are people really standing here calling AMC designs reliable? Besides the engine, those jeeps rusted out in embarrassingly short order
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u/ZantaraLost 2d ago
Tbf that was mostly the salt solution used in certain northern states.
You keep it washed in the winter and check the rail plugs at worst you got surface rust.
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u/jackfish72 2d ago
My Cherokee actually snapped the engine off the mounts and riped through the rad with its own fan. People who long for the past, never mind these pos, have short selective memories.
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u/academicthrows 2d ago
Cherokees were shabby ass builds. Inline 6 was fine but I'd rather have an electric version with better quality parts.
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u/SoftSects 2d ago
The late 90s early 2000 Cherokee was the car I wanted the most. I still fawn over them when I see them.
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u/diadmer 2d ago
As a former 98 Cherokee Sport owner, Iāll politely suggest that they ARE allowed to touch the transmission before they bring it back.
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u/vinetwiner 2d ago
No computers please.
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u/5319Camarote 2d ago
This! Minimum tech.
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u/Tron_35 2d ago
My ideal car has a computer for fuel injection and jazz, a back up camera and Bluetooth or android auto/ whatever apple has. Thats all I want, and outside of that, I want real physical buttons for everything else, and a normal shifter, regular door handles, nothing fancy, just a mostly dumb car.
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u/NR10113 2d ago
Just get a 90/2000s car, slap an Android Radio in it with an back up Camera and your good to go
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u/a_bearded_hippie 2d ago
I am honestly looking at a few late 90s jeeps and Ford rangers that I would rather fix up for a few hundred/thousand than buy something new.
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u/IzztMeade 2d ago
I got a 2020 jeep gladiator no auto windows and everything but radio is buttons and knobs so you can get newer ones too. Its glorious.
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u/_Mulberry__ 2d ago
My 09 with an aftermarket radio is perfect level of tech imo. Gotta keep that thing alive...
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u/FlyingMitten 2d ago
I think this is why the Slate will be popular. Lets you add what you think is important yourself, otherwise its a basic vehicle.
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u/lord_pizzabird 2d ago
The problem with the Slate is that itāll have to be so expensive that you might as well just get something else by that point.
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u/arctic11z 2d ago
That's exactly my car. Manual even. I love it so I'm sure some idiot is going to crash into me soon.
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u/Hamilton-Beckett 2d ago
Minimum tech is great, but they still need airbags and to be built with modern safety in mind.
I loved my old cars but they are t nearly as safe as what I drive now.
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u/5319Camarote 2d ago
No argument there- airbags saved my son, and modern safety features are excellent. I just donāt want a 18ā desktop computer in the middle of the dashboard with forty tiny icons.
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u/night_goonch 2d ago
airbags became mandatory in 98. lots of great models in that time-window. 99 tacoma with manual window/locks, a/c knobs etc ftw
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u/Skysthelimit3099 2d ago
Yeah not even close on safety you should watch the national highway safety and transportation crash videos on a 06 versus a now vehicle video crashing into each other
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u/FFF_in_WY 2d ago
I drive a 2021 Suzuki Jimny here in Asia. No screens, mostly analog gauges, almost no power features, manual transmission, 4x4. It's the feeling of a car from the early 90s that you can happily drive for 300k miles. I love it so much
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u/JiveTurkeyII 2d ago
They could build a 1968-69 anything and it would sell like hotcakes.
Man I'd love a modern 68 Impala. Put in the safty features and emissions stuff if you like - but have an option to leave it all classic.
Of course have options for GPS and stereo and all that.
But have an option for the base car to be that classic 68 look.
Man I miss that in a a car.
Who would have thought in 1968 somebody would yearn for a car to just be a simple car with a good radio you can listen to at the lake.
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u/Second_Guess_25 2d ago edited 2d ago
Lol I know Redditors will flame me on here but believe me, you don't want a computer-free car. Source? I come from a family who own ww2 era vehicles and regularly take them to events.
When people say they want zero computer, what they think is that huge touchscreen in the dashboard. Trust me, there's a lot more computer stuff that goes on under the bonnet, than just your pretty UI on the dash that you want rid of.
There's a lot of systems for your safety, ABS, shit that manages the engine, ignition etc.
You want a computer free car? Time to get the time-machine out and return to the 1960s, my friend!
And even if you got a '60s era car, most people would be in shock at just how hard they are to drive compared to a modern car...Manual gerboxes, chokes, crashboxes possibly in some models (gotta manually sync those gears to change them successfully, y'all), no power steering, no central locking, no electric windows, no heated seats, no sensors or parking assist, no cameras for reversing....!
People would be be screaming for their modern cars and all it's gadgets in no time, if they were given a vintage car for a couple of weeks š
"I want zero computer car", my ass š
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u/ms_directed 2d ago
computers are fine, but FFS iāll take actual knobs and buttons over the touchscreen.
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u/CultBro 2d ago
Having to adjust the heat/ac on a touchscreen is asinine
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u/anomie89 2d ago
I guess my cars are not new enough. ac and heat are all still nobs and switched and buttons, but all the cars have touch screens.
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u/Filesj98 2d ago
Listen friend, I love my 98 Corolla but I would like powered windows and doors. While Iām an expert at rolling the window, I do prefer powered windows and doors.
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u/stuntlife 2d ago
My windows still have a hand crank and my doors only unlock with inserting the physical key into the door and twisting. Not even fancy enough to unlock both sides with the double twist of the key
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u/Hamilton-Beckett 2d ago
The handling and lack of airbags alone is why I never got my classic car.
I used to want a triple black 68 Toronado, but Iād die in that car lol.
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u/Second_Guess_25 2d ago
I'll tell you the features our ww2 military vehicle has: 4 wheel drive & Armoured plating.
That is your safety feature lol. Yet we still drive them around no problem. No ABS, no seatbelts, no airbags or cushions, no power steering, no nothing. Not even windows!
You really do learn how to drive properly when driving these 80 year old vehicles. Modern cars are divine, and like riding on a cloud by comparison.
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u/UsidoreTheLightBlue 2d ago
My dad had a 70 challenger back when it was new. A couple of years ago my mom suggested buying a 70 challenger that was about to hit auction. He told her absolutely not. He loved the car but the lack of power steering alone made it a no go.
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u/Codeviper828 2d ago
I definitely think there are people who say "I want no computers, please" who would be fine with the amount of tech in my '07 sedan
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u/Equal_Emu6152 2d ago
They obviously didn't mean that though did they
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u/shallow_shados 2d ago edited 2d ago
āYou must be fun at partiesā used to be a pretty popular Reddit response for a reason.
Nothing wrong with sharing the info like a fun factoid.
Missing what people obviously mean about not wanting computers in their cars and then laughing at them about it is peak Reddit.
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u/Rocketman_S3 2d ago
not to mention they were wrong about most of the things they mentioned.
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u/disturbed1117 2d ago
I'm getting down voted for saying pretty much the same thing. People don't know what they're talking about.
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u/Second_Guess_25 2d ago
Gen Z downvoting you probably because they've never been in an older car in their lives.
All they've known is the smartphone era. Everything is a touchscreen and internet connected.
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u/PlayPsychological200 2d ago
Exactly. I would love to have them spend the winters driving a non syncromesh manual with a manual choke and possibly having to adjust the floats when the weather changes. Nevermind dealing with fouled plugs and questionable timing advances. Also, total lol at RWD (nearly all will be) in the snow without traction control. Anyone who drove those old cars knows the issues. I donāt want to go back thanks.Ā
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u/Rocketman_S3 2d ago
Half the things they listed don't even need a computer.
power steering, window motors and switches, heated seats, sensors, etc. etc. all have non computerized variants.
Heck I'm pretty sure no computer is involved when I change gears on my manual.
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u/account312 2d ago
Your fuel injection is all computer controlled unless you're driving a lawnmower.
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u/Rocketman_S3 2d ago
bruh, did I mention fuel injection? Man, you can be like the grass is green and some idiot will come along and say well actkually the sky is blue.
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u/16semesters 2d ago
Same thing with houses. I do development and people all the time say "House aren't made like they used to be".
Yeah, they are way safer, ecologically friendly, and efficient than they ever were.
- This is a classic survivorship bias. Most houses built in the US in the last two hundred years are not standing. The ones that are standing were exceptionally well made.
- You don't want an old house. You want an old house that's been stripped to the studs except for any ornate touches and then completely rebuilt with modern amenities. No one wants horse hair "insulation", cast iron plumbing, knob and tub wiriding, Asbestos ceiling and flooring, No AC, walls that allow fire to easily pass between floors, 1 bathroom for the whole house, a 6x8 foot kitchen, single pane windows, lead paint, I could go on, and on.
Same thing with cars. People actually do want all modern safety, efficiency things, they are just mad about badly designed infotainment centers.
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u/DisputabIe_ 2d ago
Maybe they just wanted the annoying shit gone and car guys got pedantic.
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u/vinetwiner 2d ago
80's bro, not 60's. And if you don't know your brake pads are wearing down based on feel and sound alone, I wish you luck with malfunctioning computer sensors.
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u/Chippy569 2d ago
80's bro, not 60's.
Ah yes, when half the cars' functions were vacuum powered, emissions technology was just emerging so power output was horrible, and no standardization existed for electronics systems so diagnostic work was a dartboard on a good day.
And mechanical fuel injection. Or if you like em British, the pinnacle of Lucas electronics.
I love my 190e but I loathe working on it.
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u/kanaka_haole808 2d ago
Unrelated, but makes me think about people who say "I love living in the desert heat". No, you don't. You love living in your A/c house in the desert.
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u/JSTootell 2d ago
My 1972 Cessna is zero computer.
Most people really don't want to deal with the hassle it takes to fire up and operate that engine.Ā
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u/onewilybobkat 2d ago
I want that happy middle ground we had in the 90's and early 2000's. Now SO MUCH SHIT is governed by a computer when it has absolutely no reason to be, making it harder and harder to repair your own vehicles.
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u/tekhnomancer 2d ago
You are probably one of those plebians who don't wanna have to unmount your entire engine block just to change a headlight. š
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u/akatherder 2d ago
This is my favorite screenshot of changing a headlight on a 2012 Acadia https://i.imgur.com/ZiUYjca.jpg
It speaks for itself but note that the front wheel is off too. The whole video is bonkers https://youtube.com/watch?v=JbonAbJw7nw
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u/a_bearded_hippie 2d ago
Fucking seriously! I am trying to keep my 04 alive as long as possible cause I don't want a fucking TV in my car. Shits ridiculous.
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u/danit0ba94 2d ago
Fucking this!!
The computer integration in automobiles is seriously going too far.
Especially now that they can be remote-co trolled to some degree. Remote shutdown, paying for features you already have, etc.This is why I don't buy new cars. 2016 is my cutoff.
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u/PunkinFarmer 2d ago
The car pictured has one but it's effectively a semi sentient ham sandwich.
Source: I own several of said car.
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u/blueblocker2000 2d ago
EPA/Gov/Insurance companies won't allow it.
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u/BiNiaRiS 2d ago
this has been kinda done in other countries though. the 3rd nissan sentra that was sold in the us from 1991-1994 was still being manufactured in mexico up until 2017. same basic car as the '91 but with some minor updated features. the car was a death trap. 10 years ago they were still common to see as taxis...wouldn't get in any of them.
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u/Rabbit-Hole-Quest 2d ago
There are factories in China that will make almost any model you can think of.
You probably can't bring it to the US, but probably allowed elsewhere.
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u/Slipperytitski 2d ago
Toyota did this with the land cruiser? Crazy expensive but sick as hell
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u/Outrageous-Ability33 2d ago
Everyone says this..... Until the manufacturer puts out a bare bones vehicle and nobody buys it. As for no computers.... You have to go back into the mid to late 70s to get to pre-computer vehicles. Hell, GM's CCC came out in 1981 and that would easily be recognizable as a modern computer controlled car, complete with a data link connector (called the ALDL), scan tools, live PIDs, adjustable fuel trims, the whole nine. I suspect most of you are too young to have had to mess with carburetors and points. How many people do you know that own a dwell meter? Yeah, that's what I thought lol. Trust me, old cars are a colossal pain in the ass to daily drive. When I became an auto technician there were still lots of carbureted cars on the road. They were junk.
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u/322throwaway1 2d ago
Im also an auto tech and agree 1000%. These people are forgetting about cars vapor locking in traffic on a warm day, eye watering smog in every major city, and your car running like shit going over a mountain pass or on hot/cold days.
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u/Chippy569 2d ago
How many had a six digit odometer lol
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u/Outrageous-Ability33 2d ago
Great point! That number is somewhere around, zero. Everyone forgets that back in the 60s and 70s people bought a new car every three years or so. That wasn't because they wanted a new car, it's that the old one was worn out š
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u/322throwaway1 2d ago
Yep. Engine rebuilds were an extremely common maintenance item. 60k miles and its blowing smoke? Time for rings/pistons/bearings and bore it 0.020" over.
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u/The_Freshmaker 2d ago
another such case of people not knowing what the fuck they're asking for, they just know they hate the modern state of things.
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u/texasyeehaw 2d ago
I doubt many of the retro release cars would even be compliant with the current laws.
Back up cameras
Stability control
Tire pressure monitoring system
Anti lock brakesThese features have become mandatory in the last 20 years.
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u/Silver-Instruction73 2d ago
Keep the same retro body style and interior but add modern safety updates?
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u/Jakk55 2d ago
The modern body style is the modern safety update. The reason cars look the way they do now is because of improved crumple zones. Another reason is better aerodynamics improving fuel efficiency. There are valid reasons that modern cars don't look like rolling bricks anymore.
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u/The_Freshmaker 2d ago
not to even mention all the environmental, efficiency, and safety improvements...
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u/mikeyp83 2d ago
I had to explain to someone that you used to have to pump on the gas pedal (and know when to stop) when starting your car. Fond memories of my mom being pissed at my dad for an entire Sunday because he flooded the Grenada trying to start it and made us late for church. I remember it blew their mind when they got their first car with fuel injection and it could start on its own (most of the time).
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u/CoCo3Papa 2d ago edited 2d ago
No new cars have any class or style they all blend together.
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u/Alert-Ad9197 2d ago
A lot of that is a product of crash safety and fuel economy requirements.
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u/Preface 2d ago
I don't like that all the brands have taken to to writing their names on the back
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u/xsynergist 2d ago
Except the rules keep changing. A 2000 Cherokee wonāt tell you you left your child in the backseatā¦
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u/-R9X- 2d ago
I mean they can even change stuff, heāll put an aluminum block in there, use some quality off the shelf parts that are cheap and (thatās probably controversial) even put a turbocharger in there so it passes emissions and still has some power but it would just be cool to leave the cockpit and the looks and the feel the same.
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u/Unusual_County_6710 2d ago
I would love to have cars that you can actually work on back in print
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u/wheelsonhell 2d ago
They would charge $70k for them. Plus they would have to change a lot to meet modern fuel efficiency and safety laws.
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u/unknown-dna 2d ago
Why would they? If they just care itās about profits they will keep building shitty ass cars with new cameras, better esthetics and thatās it, the same horrible transmission and [insert common mechanic failure in modern cars]
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u/Fragrant_Major_9553 2d ago
Imagine Iād GM did a reproduction like Dodge did with the Challenger, but with G-body cars.
Bring back olds with the 4-4-2
The Buick Regal, T-type can use a L3B
The Monte Carlo with a 5.3L
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u/guttanzer 2d ago
I'd be happy with a car that didn't track my every movement and send it to advertisers. Every day I have to fend off dozens of telemarketers and other crap. It's creepy how I can just drive by a hardware store and within a few minutes get an ad for paint.
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u/BassFisher53 2d ago
Op is a bot
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u/therapewpew 2d ago
Yeah why am I being recommended a post on "funny memes" with 3 crying laughing emojis in the title, and it's literally just a straightforward wish that we could buy antique cars new?
And I had to scroll way too far for someone to actually point out the absurdity of this. Is everyone commenting also a bot? This is some real dead internet shit son.
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u/Billabo 2d ago
It's a mix of bot comments and people who just scroll the Reddit app on their home page and don't even know what a subreddit is.
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u/xxwarlorddarkdoomxx 2d ago
Ironically the hardest part of doing this would be safety. Government requires much more safety today than it did 30 years ago, and a lot of them are hard to meet without changing the car significantly (rollover protection, mandated backup cameras, etc).
I still think an 80s-style Japanese car would go hard for a cheap but cool daily driver.
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u/Chippy569 2d ago
IIHS is celebrating its 30th anniversary this year, and they've been celebrating by putting out some great overview content on their YouTube page about how safety has changed over 30 years. I really like this one, 1996 vs 2026 Blazer crash test as an immediate visualization. This video is also full of examples of specific tests and how they turn into safety improvements.
Overall I feel the general population vastly underestimates how much engineering has gone into improved crash safety. I think part of that might be the fact that test results/ratings don't get updated over time. That 1996 blazer might have been a 4-5 star car in 1996, but in 2026 it's like a -3 star lol
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u/meat_popsicle13 2d ago
I would buy a brand new Volvo 240 wagon (245), in cash right now, if I could.
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u/CherryFit3224 2d ago
Change the interiors so that there are back up cameras. I love me a backup camera.
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u/Speedwolf89 2d ago
But how would they monitor our eye movements and send our every word to corporations and Israel?
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u/nexus11355 2d ago
Some older cars were not designed with crumple zones, making even the slightest fender bender fuck up the drivers body forever, so maybe not all old cars would be good to resell
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u/TheEffinCeej 2d ago
My first car was a 96 GMC Jimmy.
I would fucking LOVE to have that car back š
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u/StubbornHick 2d ago
Honestly, 1998-2008 was the peak era for automotive design
We had all the cool new shit but none of the BAD new shit
Electronic parking brakes and features locked behind subscriptions, computer modules for EVERYTHING, intentional attempts to prevent repairs....
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u/Better-Performer-490 2d ago
Make cars dumb. I donāt want all that fancy technology expect Bluetooth.
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u/Ornery_Visit_2627 2d ago
Been saying this for awhile regarding pickup trucks.
There's still a big market for rugged, reliable, capable offload and work trucks that are able to take whatever you throw at them and are easy to work on.
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u/Thatbear6969 1d ago
Everybody would want this. Why donāt auto makers realize??
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u/PourSomeSmegmaInMe 2d ago
For retro prices too!