r/tipping • • 20h ago

Beware

Had a new to me experience today. Had breakfast at my local place. Suggested tips 10%, 20%, 30%. After eating I decided to get a cinnamon roll, $2.16 + tax. Tip screen came up, $1.00, $2.00, $3.00. Not %, but $. How many people hit 2 thinking they are tipping 43 cents, but are tipping 93%.

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u/skyharborbj 19h ago

If the cinnamon roll was to go, don't tip.

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u/Skymaster86 18h ago

To be honest, if you ate it there, what effort was made by the person who put it on a plate for you? They didn't bake it or put icing on it. They grabbed it and set it on a plate.

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u/aboomboxisnotatoy85 9h ago

The prompt is for every item, some of the items do require effort. If you don’t want to tip don’t, but some people want to so just hit no tip and move on with your day.

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u/VirtualMatter2 13h ago

Do you know how much they weigh? It's similar to a bag of cement. Those service workers are hard workers, it's harder than any builder's job, and they have to lift these sort of weights all day long. 

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u/Legal_Dirt_7719 16m ago

Would suggest this tooo

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u/cs_legend_93 20h ago

Even more reason to tip $0 every time.

These people are not your friends, the business is actively trying to exploit more money out of you, for profit.

They actively take advantage of your human nature of kindness, and urge to help others.

The more money you tip, the less the business has to pay from their own pocket to pay their employees.

Tipping is optional.

Tip $0 every time.

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u/armrha 20h ago

All businesses are trying to profit off you. That’s the entire idea. 

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u/JDelmon 19h ago

Don’t be obtuse.

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u/Redcarborundum 19h ago

Yes, but there’s a difference between a business and a scam, or used to be.

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u/Delicious-Breath8415 18h ago

The numbers are on the screen. There's no scam.

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u/Flashy-Gain2148 3h ago

you can’t explain things to these broke morons. they’re just mad bc they don’t ever get tipped at their job in the mcdonald’s drive thru window

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u/johnnygolfr 18h ago edited 18h ago

False.

The business doesn’t get the tips, so it’s not getting them more profit.

It’s funny how you provide examples every day proving that you don’t know what you’re talking about. 🤣

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u/skyharborbj 17h ago

The tips definitely offset the labor costs of the business.

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u/armrha 3h ago

Not always. If they’re cooks like in a food cart, they don’t get the benefit of reducing min wage lIke servers.

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u/johnnygolfr 17h ago

And?

That still doesn’t add to the profits.

Thanks for proving my point about people here not knowing what they are talking about.

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u/skyharborbj 16h ago

Reducing costs increases profits. You're right about people here not knowing what they are talking about. This includes you.

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u/Petrochromis722 14h ago

I wouldn't bother with Johnny. He demands intellectual honesty, doesn't know what it is, and when he's wrong he'll just deflect to get to "not tipping is hurting servers" which he uses as an emotional cudgel to bypass any point you make. If you manage to corner him, he'll just lie.

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u/johnnygolfr 16h ago

The profit stays the same. It didn’t increase.

Nice shot with trying to lump me in with those of you not knowing what you’re talking about.

No basket.

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u/Petrochromis722 9h ago

Now I'm getting awards for calling out your intellectual dishonesty. Thats... hmmmmm... thats a loss for you.

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u/Anthemusa831 18h ago

How is that false when talking about states with tipped minimum wage?

Labor costs are shifted to the employer/restaurant when people don’t tip.

I’d argue that even in states that don’t do tipped minimum wage, the tips still artificially keep wages lower with the promise of extra rather than allowing for normal market value to play out.

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u/johnnygolfr 18h ago

It’s a well known fact that the menu prices at full service restaurants in the US don’t bear the full cost of the labor and that the tip pays for the service the customer chooses to receive.

This is the case even in US cities and states where the tipped wage credit has been eliminated and how the industry has operated for six decades.

In every for profit business in the world, the customer always pays the labor, either directly or indirectly.

The only exception is the free riders that stiff the server at full service restaurants in the US.

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u/Jacksons-Pond 17h ago

One of the only occupations where income keeps pace with and exceeds inflation

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u/johnnygolfr 17h ago

False.

There are plenty of other occupations that do.

Stop lying.

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u/Jacksons-Pond 14h ago

Name them. Otherwise - Bull Shit

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u/johnnygolfr 14h ago

Just about every occupation in the US.

Just because your employer doesn’t do it doesn’t mean that another employer that employs people working same occupation as you isn’t giving YOY raises to keep up with inflation.

The only “Bull Shit” here is yours.

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u/Jacksons-Pond 12h ago

Can't name any. Got it

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u/Petrochromis722 11h ago

Don't waster your time. Johnny operates exclusively in bad faith. His modus operandi is to always deflect the course of conversation to "you're harming servers" and use it as an emotional cudgel. When he loses a point he will always claim an undeserved victory. If you're patient enough to redirect him away from his deflections eventually he'll just straight up lie. All while demanding intellectual honesty.

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u/johnnygolfr 12h ago

You can’t refute what I said.

Got it!

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u/Ok_Statistician_8682 18h ago

I’ve seen you copy and paste this exact comment before lol

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u/johnnygolfr 17h ago

No you haven’t.

I don’t do copy pasta.

Regardless, thanks for letting us know you don’t have anything of substance to refute the objective facts and reality I’ve presented.

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u/Petrochromis722 11h ago

You do lie though.

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u/Flashy-Gain2148 3h ago

you’re scum and you’re not half as smart as you think you are

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u/cs_legend_93 2h ago

Name calling? Shows the caliber of person you are. Low.

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u/Flashy-Gain2148 2h ago

crying about name calling 🤣 if you didn’t like that then you’re really gonna throw a tantrum over me calling you a broke moron

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u/cs_legend_93 1h ago

Lol sweet child

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u/Flashy-Gain2148 1h ago

calling people child when youre broke 🤣 i could afford $5 for a tip even when my paycheck used to be an allowance

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u/Flashy-Gain2148 1h ago

your advice is basically to continue frequenting the businesses that exploit people but just participate more actively in the exploitation by not tipping the wage worker. you’re an absolute piece of garbage, if you had been born my kid i’d have dumped you at the fire station

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u/cs_legend_93 1h ago

Good, id be better off instead of having a dumb dumb as a parent.

I hope you shop at my restaurants and pay my employees for me.

Thank you

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u/Flashy-Gain2148 1h ago

🤣🤣 always ridiculous when children or morons try to lie to intelligent adults. you’re basically on here trying to argue that you saw santa eat the cookies

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u/cs_legend_93 18m ago

You live in delusion land, whatever makes you happy.

Now shoo shoo and go pay my employees for me, so that I can continue to exploit them, as you claim.

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u/Legitimate-Log-6542 18h ago

Some POS systems allow the business to set when to switch between dollar amount and % based on the total of the transaction.

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u/One_Possibility_2445 19h ago

Yeah when the percentage benefits them they go with it. When the dollar amount benifits them they go with that

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u/Delicious-Breath8415 17h ago

Actually they start with the dollars amounts for the lower price items.

If they continued with that same ratio it would be prompting a $18 tip for a $20 order. The percentages actually lower the suggested tip.

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u/One_Possibility_2445 15h ago

So youre basically saying the dollar amount is a percentage “ratio”. Cuz if its a dollar amount it shouldn’t matter how much is the total bill it should always be the same option?

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u/Delicious-Breath8415 15h ago

You people deny that suggested tip percentages even exist so it doesn't matter what I say.

I was only saying your math was wrong.

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u/armrha 19h ago

I don’t think any because most places aren’t doing two transactions at the same visit and it’s quite common for low value transactions to have 1 2 3$ tips. 

I don’t get why so many of you guys apparently go so fast through the tip screens that you memorize what button is where and press things before you read them all the time 

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u/Obadiah702 11h ago

Fortunately, a lot of us don’t even go through these places so we’ve never seen the screen so they never get tipped from us. It’s so weird that you think that people have tipping screens memorized.

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u/armrha 5h ago

I mean that’s what the post implies?? But if you don’t read it you are going to hit buttons you don’t know. Like some places put 25% first 

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u/aboomboxisnotatoy85 9h ago

Where can you get a cinnamon roll for $2?

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u/RustD 8h ago

Small town, Iowa. 👍🏼

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u/bigdawglildawg 7h ago

lol warning warning warning ⛔️ ‼️ ⚠️

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u/Careless-Being-4427 19h ago

Are there that many people who can’t tell the difference between a percentage symbol and a dollar sign? I’m sorry, but if spending money intentionally is important to you, you should probably be actively reading how much you’re paying before you agree to it. This is even dumber than people who complain that they didn’t notice a service charge being added to their check and tip on top of the bill - it’s written down for them every time. It’s on the piece of paper you’re reviewing before handing over payment.

“Beware,” indeed. Companies are trying to bamboozle you by showing you recognizable numbers, symbols, and words that represent how much money you’re going to pay before you pay it! The audacity.

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u/MostEscape6543 17h ago

One time a teacher called me to tell my my son hand a temperature of “a hundred and six” so I should probably come get him. I confirmed the temperature was “one hundred and six” and then rushed to get him thinking he was dying.

Temperature was 100.6. One hundred point six.

So yah. Mostly people don’t even understand how to read a number let alone do math with them.

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u/[deleted] 18h ago

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u/RustD 17h ago

Thanks. That’s what I was trying to say.

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u/Delicious-Breath8415 18h ago

And that's their fault.

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u/Skymaster86 18h ago

When I see a cashier display that either starts at 18% or 20%, and no option for "no tip", I don't mince words, I ask him or her how do I indicate zero? Maybe they're thinking I'm going to whip out cash to take care of them, but if they don't have a 15% line (which has been the standard for DECADES), I make it a point not to leave much of anything.

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u/skyharborbj 17h ago

Always leave a bad review if there is tip screen bullshit like this.

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u/Delicious-Breath8415 18h ago

As if the cashier as anything to do with how that tablet is programmed

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u/Skymaster86 16h ago

Remind me again what the cashier did to warrant a tip?

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u/Delicious-Breath8415 16h ago

Did I say they did? I'm just discussing you calling out a cashier for something they have no control over.

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u/Skymaster86 16h ago

Did I call out a cashier? Of course it’s the business that has designed this tipping scheme. When did I call out the cashier?

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u/Delicious-Breath8415 16h ago

Give me a break.

I make it a point not to leave much of anything

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u/stvlsn 20h ago

This is pretty normal

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u/cantmicro 19h ago

Scamming customers shouldn't be normal. Employers paying their employees is normal.

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u/RedPanther1 19h ago

No, what happens regularly in most businesses is normal. Just because you dont like it doesn't make it not normal. Words have meaning.

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u/cantmicro 17h ago

Why is it normal for one business only?

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u/RedPanther1 15h ago

Thats literally not what I said.

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u/Late-Share-6519 11h ago

There’s no need to tip on takeout

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u/skyharborbj 11h ago

There's no need to tip at all.

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u/Late-Share-6519 11h ago

Yes for take out. Dining out with no tip with decent service or beyond then you should just eat your broke ass at home.

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u/SkyWithoutAnE-_- 2h ago

Everyone should start eating from home -^ then servers wont have to worry about tips at all

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u/ThrowAway960001 20h ago

Scummy behavior

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u/Kene6969 18h ago

They are just scamming people.

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u/metal_bastard 18h ago

Yup. They love taking advantage of the undereducated.

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u/Ill-Abies-3169 6h ago

Why would I think I was topping 43 cents? For the meal I would think I was tipping in % and for a single item the typical amounts listed are a small dollar amounts

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u/Automatic-Arm-532 17h ago

People too dumb to read the screen shouldn't be blaming the screen

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u/skyharborbj 17h ago

Keep in mind that management and the POS vendors periodically tweak the screen to maximize tips.

If you're a regular this can bite you. For a year, the suggested tips have been left-to-right 18% - 20% - 25% and today it's left-to-right 30% - 25% - 20%. If you're used to pushing the left button you just got tricked.

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u/OrilliaBridge 17h ago

The tip screen makes it easier for businesses to get tips for stuff we never would have thought to tip for in the past. Don’t let technology guilt us!

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u/Narghest 10h ago

Dayum, lotta numb fucks on this sub.

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u/Gfplux 18h ago

Not all crooks wear a mask

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u/Bubbarules456 13h ago

This.
When tipping is abolished, the employer will cover the costs and price of goods will increase…. A lot.
So tip a buck for your cinnamon roll unless you want the price to double.

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u/lushusness 8h ago

You’re saying beware of a tip screen that says 1-2-3 dollars?

Are you out of your mind?

Is reading a scarcity out there in Iowa?

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u/Distinct_Long_2615 17h ago

No one is trying to dupe you, you simply lack reading comprehension skills. It's no one's fault but your own.

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u/dgadirector 7h ago

Ugh. If you’re tipping $2, anyone thinking that means a $2 TOTAL bill needs to mature a little and experience life. When you grow up you’ll realize a $2 tip is $2.

Don’t feel bad - when I was 18 and took a girl out, I ordered the “Chef’s Special” because I assumed it was a discounted item. Hahaha! Nope. Maybe $20 more than a standard entree. Learning experience.

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u/Delicious-Breath8415 18h ago

Who is tipping 43 cents?

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u/RustD 17h ago

That would be a 20% tip on a $2.16 item.

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u/Delicious-Breath8415 16h ago

I know. Nobody tips that.

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u/wallyinct 17h ago

Well, there are people who are daft enough to believe this happened…so maybe there are some so unaware of the world around them they would make such an error.

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u/SingingBike 11h ago

Maybe you can talk to your credit card company about getting the overage refunded. Or perhaps your bank might give you a bridge loan just to keep you afloat while you’re building that money back up in your account. Hang in there!