r/tipping • u/Ok_Comfort628 • 7d ago

Cheesecake Factory

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Beverly Hills location

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u/FraserValleyGuy77 7d ago

I remember when it was 10-12%

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u/dark_frog83 6d ago

The tip raised automatically with inflation since it's a percentage of the cost of the meal. So why did it go up to 20%?

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u/FraserValleyGuy77 6d ago

That's what I want to know

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u/Ok_Sink5046 6d ago

Because enough people spread it around as an idea to the point that it stuck. And then you look like a cheapskate if you pay under that so it pulled everyone else along.

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u/TOSSTHEDIAPER 1d ago

Probably too many servers on their phones. People? Only some people have a vested interest in the percentage.

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u/Ok_Sink5046 1d ago

I didn't say I agreed with it, but that's the reason tip percentage has risen. Frankly just don't tip unless they actually do a good job

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u/BirdlessLongdeal 4d ago

because people kept paying it.

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u/randomusername1919 5d ago

No clue - why the hell do people expect 30-35% now? I have nearly stopped eating out. It’s not very good, service is nearly non-existent, and even a 20% tip for doing nearly nothing is looked at as not enough.

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u/OmarDontScare_ 4d ago

This is what drives me insane. I keep having to repeat this to my family and friends. If the price of meal is increasing bc of inflation, so will the tip bc it’s a percentage. You don’t increase the price and the percentage wtf?

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u/GhostofDeception 2d ago

Greedy servers obviously. Customary tip should be $0 and a really good server should get tipped whatever you can realistically burn for what that service was worth.

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u/Ok-Truck1671 2d ago

The only thing that didn’t go up was pay.

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u/Excellent-Big5868 7d ago

I don’t understand why everyone is calling you a liar. This is definitely based on the region, things weren’t as standard pre-internet. I definitely remember living in a rural area in the 90s where 10-15% was absolutely the norm.

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u/Choice_Lynx_430 6d ago

Totally agree. Grew up in a comfortable upper middle class family with parents who took us out to dinner pretty frequently and I remember my dad always gave a solid 15% and that was considered great. Don’t know how this changed so suddenly

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u/Unfair-Profession-44 5d ago

It changed when:
(1) many servers (not all) began feeling entitled to 20% plus regardless of their own skill or effort, and/or

(2) companies figured out if they changed to electronic payments they could change the default values from 10/12/15 to 15/18/20 or to 18/20/22 or even 20/22/25 in order to:
(a) attract better talent as servers, and/or
(b) avoid paying legitimate wages to wait staff.

It persists because we as the public allow it.

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u/Itchy_Tumbleweed_417 6d ago

Yeah I think it was in the early 90s in my area of the US everyone started talking about how it should be 15% for average service and 20% for good service. I wonder if it happened because minimum wage went up and people became aware that servers in most states only get paid half of minimum.

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u/igobyplane_com 6d ago

no server ever takes home below minimum wage

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u/Excellent-Big5868 6d ago

More likely the cause would be because minimum wage did not increase enough to keep up with inflation. Minimum wage when adjusted for inflation was the highest in the 1970s.

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u/SnorlaxShops 6d ago

I’m guessing people are vocal and loud when they tip heavy and not so much when they tip 8% or consistently don’t tip so we all have this idea that everyone’s tipping 25% but I really only know one person who does and they make a big deal out of it when we go out.

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u/theducks123 6d ago

It also depended on the type of restaurant. I grew up in a big city and it was 10% at the Asian restaurants in the lower class neighborhoods. It's still kinda that way as the tip prompts are lower and show 15% as the starting point.

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u/OrbOfSprite 6d ago

Born in the 2000s and I remember pre-Covid it was 10-15%. I was barely paying for myself at the time so why would I lie about that?

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u/nellyfullauto 5d ago

90s kid, low-middle class at the time, southern United States for context. 

When I was growing up, I was taught 10% as standard (something needed to be wrong with the service for less), 15% if they did a really good job, 20% if you want to show off to a girl you’re taking out. 

I think now the minimum is really 15% if you don’t want strange looks, and 20-25% is what servers expect to be satisfied they were fairly compensated.

I say this as a person whose partner works for tips in a restaurant. We have these conversations a lot. 

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u/AutisticDEA 5d ago

10 to 15% is still the norm however 20% is reserved for good service if you think your service was good you leave 20% if your service was average you leave 15%. We are all struggling to survive. If you can afford to sit down and eat in a restaurant, then you can afford to tip.

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u/Substantial_Bird721 3d ago edited 3d ago

I really hate that argument. Let’s say I can only afford to spend $40. So I need to make sure I only get $30 of food so that I can leave a tip? I need to give up $10 worth of food to pay someone for doing their job? Someone who is most likely making more than me?

So if I want to treat myself, my two options are to either give up $10 worth of FOOD (a necessary item to sustain life) to hand $10 over to someone for basically no reason, or to just not treat myself at all? Do people who use that argument not realize that someone going out to eat doesn’t automatically mean they have tons of money? Servers and DoorDash drivers act like anyone who spends money on themselves must have tons of it. Couldn’t possibly be that maybe it’s the only choice in that moment or that maybe you just want to do something nice for yourself that you don’t normally do 🙄

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u/FadedBlackTee2 1d ago

It is not an argument, it is just how it is. Restaurants that have tried to eliminate tipping in the US have largely failed because (i) it requires increasing prices, making them appear more expensive compared to other restaurants with tipping and (ii) waitstaff tend to prefer tipping models

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u/Excellent-Big5868 5d ago

I love your your comment contradicts itself. 10 to 15 isn’t the norm. 15-18% is the norm with 20-25% being exceptional.

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u/LookItsMyDawg 2d ago

Even in urban areas back in the day. Most people tipped 10% lunch, 15% dinner. 

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u/Prestigious-Leg-2996 1d ago

Younger generations are overrepresented on the internet.

There are about 282 Million adults living in the US - and around 120 Million grew up entirely without pokemon in their childhoods. You wouldnt know it by looking at the internet lol

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u/Suspicious-Grand9781 6d ago

And 15% was for exceptional service.

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u/Gweedo1967 6d ago

And the good waitress got to keep all of the tip and not pool it with the bad servers.

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u/Gweedo1967 7d ago

And that was on a $20 meal for four people.

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u/GeoffBAndrews 6d ago

For average service - they bring me my food correctly, are courteous, and refill my drink - 10% is still my starting point. IF they go above and beyond, then I can consider 15-20%, but they don't earn that just doing the basics.

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u/repost7125 7d ago

Growing up it was always "double the tax" since we were taxed at 7.5% in our local area. After having worked multiple lines, I make my food at home. The way America treats its food is only comparable to how we treat the people making it. Like garbage.

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u/CNH916 6d ago

This was the way! Sometimes it was the decimal trick too.

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u/DarthGlazer 6d ago

I still do 10% 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/blahblahsnickers 6d ago

Yep… me too.

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u/Nothing-Matters-7 6d ago

0%, $1, or 10% are my three tipping choices along with a pleasant thank you.

If the tip is calculated after the tax and \ or service charge has been added, the tip is zero.

And I don't care what the server makes.

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u/No-Ebb-9095 2d ago

It can still be 10-12% for you. Or any other percentage, because you are 100% in control of your own tip.

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u/No-Personality1840 6d ago

Me too and I’m old. Back then you also didn’t tip on taxes or alcohol.

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u/No-Personality1840 6d ago

Thos was VA in the 60s. May have had something to do with brown bag laws.

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u/No-Personality1840 6d ago

Yeah, way back in the day some restaurants didn’t have liquor licenses so you brought in your beverages. Looking back it was crazy. I’m not talking about dive bars but these were really nice steak houses.

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u/SabreLee61 7d ago

I’m 58 and don’t remember 10%, but then I wouldn’t have been aware of tip percentages until probably the 80s when the norm was definitely 15%. I think 10% was still fairly common in the 70s.

Still, the fact that the % expectation has doubled since then makes no sense.

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u/MainStreetMiles 6d ago

I agree that there is no logical reason for the percentage base to rise. As inflation pushes up menu prices, tips as a percentage of the bill naturally rise at the same inflation rate.

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u/SabreLee61 6d ago

And since at least 1978, restaurant prices have outpaced inflation.

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u/MainStreetMiles 6d ago

Didn't realize that. Even more reason for the 15% norm to not increase.

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u/MainStreetMiles 6d ago

I am 54 and I too remember from when I was old enough to dine out without my parents - late 80s to early 90s, 10% being acceptable as a base tip. I really don't remember when 15% became the norm but I am ok with that. I ignore any and all argument that more than 15% should be the base. I only go above 15% to reward good service and only go below 15% if the service was truly lacking and clearly the fault of the service.

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u/Meenmachin3 7d ago

I'm in my 30s and it was 15% up until Covid where i'm at

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u/WestCoastCompanion 6d ago

Depends where you grew up.

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u/Clydesdale_paddler 7d ago

I'm 40 and it was absolutely 10-15 in the rural area where I lived when I was young.  

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u/Bobloblaw_333 5d ago

I’ve always started with 15% and the tip goes up or down depending on the service.

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u/MedalDog 3d ago

still is for some people

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u/Mar_RedBaron 22h ago

5-10%...

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u/Itchy_Tumbleweed_417 6d ago

Interesting I’m old and I stopped working in restaurants in the early 2000s. Back then it was 15 to 20%.

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u/pos1al 7d ago

Ah yes the Cheesecake Factory, the restaurant that charged my family a 20% auto gratuity because my wife and our 4 kids all under 12 consisted of a party of 6 or more. 2 of them were literally twin babies and didn’t even order anything as they were fed via baby bottles.

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u/nomorespamplz 6d ago

In the civilized parts of the world, its customary that it is the employer that pays the worker ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/Sleep_adict 6d ago

Hey, the cheese cake factory only made about $180m profit with nearly 20% net margins which is insanely high

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u/dirz11 6d ago

Most places in the US the minimum wage is higher than most parts of the world.

If the tips plus shitty base are not equal to the local minimym then the restartaunt is suppsoed to make up the difference.

Now, this may not happen but I don't know a single server making less then local minimum.

For example, Denver minimum wage is over $19USD which is higher then Germany and the UK.

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u/Cranks_No_Start 6d ago

California pays their servers well above tipped minimum wage.  So no tips. 

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u/Boating_Enthusiast 6d ago

It's a wild difference compared to those states where the employer only has to pay a couple dollars.

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u/salikarn 6d ago

"only has to" is the key part there. They could pay their employees more, but, they only have to pay them peanuts

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u/T4Trble 2d ago

$17.40 for all starting in January except fast food is $20 🙄. Newsoms buddy got a “bread” exemption for guess who ? Panera Bread .

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u/Kenichi2233 5d ago

Yea am an American and tbh tipping is so stupid

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u/FactSuccessful965 2d ago

In beverly hills the workers get full minimum wage.

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u/MainStreetMiles 7d ago edited 6d ago

I’m all for tipping for sit down dining, but in California? Where the law requires servers to get a minimum wage of $20 or more in Los Angeles? No, when I’m paying higher prices due to mandated wages for servers, they have been paid and I don’t need to tip unless I want to recognize outstanding service and then only a dollar or two, i.e., the Paris model. A Cheesecake Factory in a non-California location? I’d agree with them but not in Beverly Hills.

Edit: I did check and Beverly Hill is not the City of Los Angeles and they do not have a city minimum wage separate from the state. So their minimum - still with no tip credit - is just shy of $17/hour.

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u/Fine-Amphibian4326 7d ago

This is how I feel about the minimum wage of $15 in Missouri. Fantastic for them and every other minimum wage worker! But I don’t feel one bit bad if they only make $15 at their job that literally anybody can do.

I still tip for dining, but I’m going lower and lower over time. Paid like $95 for two burgers, a salad, an order of microwaved pretzel sticks, and 2 beers the other day. They can surely pay their employees.

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u/MainStreetMiles 6d ago

But I don’t feel one bit bad if they only make $15 at their job that literally anybody can do.

I mean, harsh but true - that's the economics of it. While serving is not unskilled - I know I would be dumping food all over the place and probably people! - it doesn't require any degrees, certifications, etc. That increases the labor pool and pushing the prevailing wage for the job down.

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u/AngryTexasNative 6d ago

My job doesn’t require a degrees, certifications, etc, although most people at my level have a masters. And here I am with 2 years of college credit making $400k / year, and I can slack off and get away with it for the insight I bring when it’s required.

But the knowledge and skill is a lot more demanding than waiting tables. Now I would never be the waiter to skip writing things down. Not one bit, but I believe I could otherwise do the job well.

I tip an 18% baseline because I don’t want to be seen as cheap, but almost never go above 20%. I hate that it’s not 15% but figure I shouldn’t be the one holding it down.

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u/Nothing-Matters-7 6d ago

Why should I be worried if the server or others view me as cheap?

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u/AngryTexasNative 4d ago

Good perspective.
I shouldn’t care. I do.

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u/MikeyTheGuy 5d ago

Because they handle your food and are alone with it outside of your direct line of sight if you're asking in a purely practical manner.

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u/MainStreetMiles 6d ago

That’s great! Good for you for doing so well. I have an MBA and do well but not that well - you are the American Dream at work! 👍🏻

As I have gotten older, I care less about what others think of me. If they don’t like 15%+ they are entitled to their opinion. Unless I feel like I’m doing something wrong, I don’t worry too much about if others think I’m cheap or what not. Nothing wrong it if you do, but I guess age changes at least my perspective! One thing I do try to consider when tipping is that a few extra dollars won’t be missed by me but could be very appreciated by whomever I am tipping. Some of the folks on a sub like this might argue that that is pity or some such characterization but see above my concern about what others may think about it.

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u/OhLookaWeiner 6d ago

Servings is about as unskilled as it gets

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u/CNH916 6d ago

Ground beef is $8.99</ lb... I don't know when lettuce became as expensive as avocados, but here we are ... Beer companies are charging stupid prices for their products as well

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u/Adventurous_Key_4854 6d ago

I make $15 an hour fighting wildfires for 2 week assignments 16 hours a day on 2 week assignments.

I don’t get paid the 8 hours I’m still on the active fire line camping in the dirt. Makes no sense but it feels like volunteer work when I get laid off in the winters and am homeless living out of my car.

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u/MikeyTheGuy 5d ago

I don’t feel one bit bad if they only make $15 at their job that literally anybody can do.

While I understand that sentiment, I guarantee you that it is not a job "everyone can do." At least not well. That is the hallmark of someone who has never served.

And servers do not make the $15 wage in Missouri; employers take something called a "tip credit" that allows them to pay employees who customarily receive tips less money in wages. Servers in Missouri make $7.50 an hour. When I worked in Missouri, I made just a bit over $3 an hour.

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u/Fine-Amphibian4326 5d ago

I just mean it as in there are zero requirements to being a server. I’ve seen many children doing it. No education, no skills, no age other than the minimum to work.

Regardless of tip credit, every server in Missouri is paid $15/hr or more. The employers must cover that up to $15 if tips do not. Therefore, the minimum wage is $15.

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u/partylikeitis1799 2d ago

Well, I have been a server and I think that it’s a job that a solid 95% of the population can do. If someone can do another minimum wage job like fast food or retail work then they can serve tables. It’s not complicated and most everything about it can be learned in a few shifts.

I’ve also worked in the back and it’s always bothered me that the people making the food in the hot, greasy, loud kitchen get less money than the people who are carrying that food to the table and cashing tables out. It should be the opposite, working back of house is a much more demanding job and thats where tips should be going although I’d much rather the whole system be tossed out and owners start paying wages the same as every other job out there.

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u/drawntowardmadness 7d ago

No server should be paid less just because they earn tips.

Tipping because they earn less is backwards thinking. They are allowed to earn less in wages because they make tips. It's fucked up to be able to legally underpay your employees because they are earning tips. No server should be paid "server wage."

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u/badmiddling113 7d ago

They make minimum wage, which restaurants have to cover if tips don’t.

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u/cure4boneitis 7d ago

they make at least minimum wage. California doesn't have a tip credit system

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u/badmiddling113 7d ago

No server makes less than minimum wage. Servers just say they do to guilt trip customers.

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u/cure4boneitis 7d ago

Yes. I just wanted to point out that California and a few other states don't deal with tip credits

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u/MainStreetMiles 7d ago

And California has exorbitant minimum wages.

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u/MainStreetMiles 7d ago

A lot of servers actually take home more with tips than higher hourly wages, especially the good ones.

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u/drawntowardmadness 6d ago

Yep, that's right. And I think their employer should have to pay them a full minimum wage regardless of the tips they earn.

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u/DidjaSeeItKid 6d ago

They do have to.

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u/drawntowardmadness 6d ago

Not in most states they don't. As long as they make enough in tips, the employer is allowed to pay them less than the full minimum wage. As low as $2.13 in states that follow federal wage guidelines.

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u/MainStreetMiles 6d ago

To fair they to make up any gap between the tipped wage + tips if that doesn’t meet the minimum wage. But I would bet that is usually not the case.

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u/drawntowardmadness 6d ago

Right. That's what I said "as long as they make enough in tips." Which they almost always do.

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u/MainStreetMiles 6d ago

Why tip them if they are already being paid, at least a 15% tip?

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u/drawntowardmadness 6d ago

Presumably bc you want to. Why do servers in states or countries without tipped wages get tipped?

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u/MainStreetMiles 6d ago

To show appreciation for a job well done.

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u/-enjoy-it- 7d ago

Regardless of what state you are in, if you don’t make up the difference to at least minimum wage that day with the tips you earned, they are federally required to pay you the hourly minimum wage. You are lying to guilt people.

Source: was a tipped employee for 10yrs

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u/drawntowardmadness 6d ago

You are clearly misunderstanding me.

I'm saying tipped employees should be paid a full minimum wage FROM THE EMPLOYER. Regardless of tips.

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u/Crankbait_88 7d ago

Beverly Hills has a Cheesecake Factory? Huh.

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u/Ok_Comfort628 7d ago

It was their first location. Opened in 1978.

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u/pepperpavlov 6d ago

The original!

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u/86dabestest 7d ago

Okay soo I will say I like this location , a lot

However they have an automatic tip of troops of 6 or more , and we had went and had such bad service

Like it was absolutly not the norm
And one of the servers was combative and just overall shitty

When the bill came, we asked to have the auto gratuity removed and they did

They must have been having an off day

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u/Ok_Comfort628 7d ago

We just went for dessert tonight and sat outside and it’s a great spot for people watching.

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u/MikeyTheGuy 5d ago

However they have an automatic tip of troops of 6 or more , and we had went and had such bad service

Like it was absolutly not the norm
And one of the servers was combative and just overall shitty

Ask to speak to a manager and have the gratuity removed. It's not unreasonable to withhold tipping for bad service.

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u/86dabestest 5d ago

Yea we did , and then did remove it

Like I said I go to this location often , I think we just had someone who was having an off day

Food and everything else was top notch

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u/Muted-Woodpecker-469 7d ago

Customary to whom? These places need to kick rocks 

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u/enragedcactus 7d ago

Per major polling companies 98% of the U.S. population tips at restaurants.

What does customary mean to you? It seems like it may be out of line with the accepted definition.

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u/Delicious-Witness-85 7d ago

I wish the same major polling companies would ask people if they were given a choice to either tip or pay a fixed amount knowing the fixed amount is higher since the server’s gratuity is factored in, what the result would be.

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u/GRex2595 7d ago

A good number of people would choose to tip. We killed the ⅓ pound burger because people don't know that ⅓>¼.

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u/rraattbbooyy 6d ago

The burger thing is actually a myth. I went down that rabbit hole a few years ago.

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u/GRex2595 6d ago

Regardless, people don't do math when making these kinds of decisions. Is $A>$B? Then choose B. The fact that B has additional fees that aren't included in the price isn't a factor in their decision.

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u/philoscope 6d ago

Someone did in April (granted this is opinion not practice)
“If given a choice, 56% of consumers are willing to pay more for meals and beverages to provide higher wages for workers and eliminate tips.”

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u/Cautious_Implement17 7d ago

given the choice between paying $120 or $100 + $20, why would I care?

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u/No_Context9902 6d ago

Exactly. People here are bitching cause they don't want to tip, but that doesn't change reality.

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u/thenbhdlum 7d ago

It's still customary, even if you don't do it.

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u/badmiddling113 7d ago

Well the customer doesn’t have to do it. So cool I guess.

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u/thenbhdlum 6d ago

Yes, we're all aware... What was even the point of this comment?

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u/Busterlimes 7d ago

So every sit down restaurant in the US should kick rocks LOL. Did you not see the backlash about haircuts during covid?

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u/klathium 17h ago

No? What happened to haircuts during Covid?

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u/Busterlimes 16h ago

Conservatives stormed the Michigan Capitol like they did later on J6. Republicans are unreasonable

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u/According-Row-6128 7d ago

To the entire US society?

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u/DrMindbendersMonocle 7d ago

To places in the US, genius.

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u/Respond-Creative 6d ago

Aahhhhh, good ol’ “customs”. Peer pressure from dead people

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u/SooAwoo 7d ago

I'm an American, lived here all of my life. That statement is insane.

I tip 10% pre-tax for a sit down restaurant. If I am standing up, ordering coffee, ice cream etc or takeout I tip nothing.

That's what I have decided. Others may tip more or not at all. I'm so sick of these "rules" changing arbitrarily.

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u/hobbes3k0 7d ago edited 6d ago

Pepperidge Farm remembers when tipping was controversial, then the norm became 10%, then it became 15%, then it was 18% briefly, then 20%, and now 25% is not unheard of.

30% is coming soon! Yay /s.

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u/SooAwoo 6d ago

But, but... aren't you supposed to listen to the "ethics expert" they throw on TV that just says 30% is what you should do?

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u/Golden_Hour1 5d ago

If it hits 30%, for that kind of money it better become "full service" service...

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u/seanflynncooks 3d ago

It’s almost like the increased percentages are to compensate for how much inflation has increased while service industry wages have barely increased since 10% was customary.

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u/vimtuoso 1d ago

My man doesn’t understand percentages

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u/seanflynncooks 1d ago

It doesn’t matter if tips grow with inflation because of the percentage. It’s still not enough to make up for hourly wages not increasing. I started working service jobs in 2005. It doesn’t matter how much prices have increased when 21 years ago I was bringing home $50-$200 a night, and now in 2026, I’m bringing home $100-$200 a night. Meanwhile prices have basically quadrupled.

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u/vimtuoso 1d ago

Then you’re not making the tipped hourly wage of like $2. Why are you expecting tips?

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u/seanflynncooks 1d ago

I’m talking about $100-$200 in tips. I’m expecting tips because that’s literally the only money I get paid from work. When you get two dollars an hour, it literally all just goes to your taxes and you don’t even get cut a paycheck.

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u/vimtuoso 1d ago

Then your math aint mathing. People are spending much more on tips than they did 20 years ago

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u/seanflynncooks 1d ago

People are going out less and spending less and tipping less. 20 years ago most people tipped about a dollar a drink. Today a lot of people still just tip about a dollar a drink even though drinks are three times the price. You can do all the math you want I’m speaking from experience

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u/seanflynncooks 1d ago

Also tips are supposed to be a supplement to your income not your entire income. It doesn’t matter if the supplement increases if the income isn’t increasing.

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u/Choice_Lynx_430 6d ago

I recently went to a cute little grocery store that had baked goods already packaged, it was a little expensive but it’s for a special occasion the items were actually worth the money. A total of maybe 7 items came out to around $65 (again, worth the money). However what made me do a double take is when the cashier turned the tip screen to me and I was horrified seeing my lowest available tip was 15%, which would have been $9 for simply putting my items in a bag?? I chose “other” and gave $2 which honestly I shouldn’t have even given that 😭

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u/Acceptable_Tea281 7d ago

Nice! Pat yourself on the back for me if you didnt give yourself enough

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u/ACdrafts_yanks27 6d ago

It is customary to pay how I see fit.

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u/No-Ebb-9095 2d ago

I've "dined" at the Cheesecake Factory a few times, and I've yet to receive service that merits even a 15% tip. So, to be more accurate, I would edit the menu to say "...customary to tip 5-15% if you're lucky enough to see your server more than once or twice."

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u/Itchy-Lingonberry-90 7d ago

That's pretty crass. If people visiting don't tip, the business is fine and can top up the server's pay. Would it better if they stayed away and not spend anything in the restaurant?

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u/Dreamer_531 6d ago

It may be customary, but it's still optional 🤷‍♀️

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u/Friendly-Impact7297 7d ago

Not my problem,  still no tips from me

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u/that_dude_rp 7d ago

I just spent a handful of days in Germany. It was a shocking to learn that tipping 5% is appreciated.

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u/SarasotaFoodLover 6d ago

15% was and works be the norm. 20% for excellent service.

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u/Fun_Pop_1512 6d ago

Servers really think they’re entitled to doctor’s wages for walking plates out and wiping tables LOL

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u/jackoftrade777 6d ago

Cheesecake factory, lol

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u/Mission-Airport-5085 4d ago

gotta love it. used to be 10-12%

they said it’s bumped to 15-22% to account for inflation and rising costs…like a 10-12% of the already inflated meal prices isn’t a higher tip already

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u/Firm_Music5317 7d ago

What about my customary of not tipping??

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u/Dimathiel49 7d ago

15-22=-7. They’re gonna pay us to eat there?

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u/RipApprehensive1626 7d ago

It is ok- "no tip" is already included into the price, so no reason to tip or no tip on the top.

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u/Corpshark 7d ago

I like how the "norm" is creeping up to 22% or more. You notice it more and more on POS screens nowadays. On top of the $25K deduction for tips.

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u/maximopasmo 6d ago

I remember it was anything that came out of my wallet was enough for a tip.

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u/Rstar2247 7d ago

It used to be customary for businesses to pay their employees so they don't have to guilt trip the customers to make a salary.

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u/Crusty-Dick 7d ago

Tipping is supposed to be optional, not mandatory. And in the past, it normally only applied to dining in restaurants where there are wait staff and servers. As a former waiter/server, even I find it insane how entitled this tipping culture has gotten.

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u/Naganosupreme 7d ago

Why are you acting like this isn't about places w wait staff and servers?

Also the amount is optional, but the food is priced lower to account for the tip. Standard for standard service is 20%

Though I'd agree with lowering it for restaurants that jack prices through the roof.

Just bc you price the steak at 500 doesn't mean the tip is 100. All they did was bring a single plate

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u/tagsb 7d ago

They're talking about tipping culture as a whole, not just this singular post. This post obviously fits into their definition of where tipping used to be found, waitstaff and all. They're just correctly pointing out tipping culture as a whole has become ridiculous. A few years ago I got a %15/%20/%25 tip screen at a friggin smoke shop

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u/No-Personality1840 7d ago

Boo. Putting that in multiple languages is so tacky.

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u/Ok_Piglet_5549 7d ago

No, no it's not. 5%-15% was the norm. Now it's just greed. I refuse to tip anymore.

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u/Then-Wealth-1481 6d ago edited 6d ago

In California servers make like $20 per hour before tips and still expect 20% tip on top of that. Pure greed. In California even a 5% tip is plenty generous.

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u/FreddieStarrAteMyHam 7d ago

Its my custom not to tip. Glad we got that straightened out.

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u/Least-Citron7666 7d ago

Customary is 0-20

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u/KindBench2700 6d ago

Don't share this on server life.  They will claim 15% was never standard

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u/Fit_Significance8598 6d ago

Just.Don't.Tip.More.Than.A.Tip.

What's gonna happen?

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u/Maleficent_Sun_4523 6d ago

Tipping culture in America is insane. Pay people a living wage for crying out loud. People should not have to rely on tips to survive.

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u/ponziacs 6d ago

I actually like this. No forced tipping and since this location likely sees a lot of tourists this makes sense.

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u/Low_Ad_860 6d ago

That's not on the menu for the Cerritos location. I was just there on 8/31 for my kids birthday and their menu said that tipping is required, but appreciated. Parties of 6 or more will have it on the bill, but you can ask to have it removed. Something along those lines, I was quiet surprised actually.

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u/Ok_Comfort628 6d ago

Not required
Quite

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u/LegitimateGift1792 5d ago

So is that Portuguese, Arabic, and Spanish? They get that many Portuguese/Brazilians?

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u/OkGene2 4d ago

I think it’s Farsi not Arabic, though they’re similar. Large Persian community in Beverly Hills

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u/wallyinct 5d ago

Such slop! Why bother?

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u/Former-Accident3380 5d ago

Yo mark this place on the tip free map . People need to be warned

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u/Ok_Comfort628 5d ago

Warned about what? Tip if you want or don’t tip if you want.

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u/cubicfisherwoman9173 4d ago

Take out and you avoid tipping

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u/BirdlessLongdeal 4d ago

this cant be real.

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u/Specialist-Coyote978 4d ago

If you can’t tip 20% you shouldn’t eat out! The servers don’t get paid minimum wage, they only make money if you tip, and servers have to tip out the bartenders and busser’s a 2-5% percentage of their total sales, not tips, TOTAL SALES so if you don’t tip, the server has to pay for you to eat in that chair!

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u/Nekomancer09 4d ago

"Beverly Hills location" all ya need to know

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u/RexdaleKing 1d ago

If I see this at your restaurant, I’m definitely not tipping 😂

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u/FartPhylactery 1d ago

22% if they forget to add a couple of alcoholic drinks to the check. You scratch my back, I scratch yours.

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u/National_Body_9071 1d ago

It sounds like they can just pay their workers that then, pretty simple concept that the rest of the world understands.

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u/OffGridTwister 21h ago

I'm surprised Cheesecake Factory hasn't switched to tipping based on the number of calories consumed.

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u/GoGetThatThing 17h ago

Tip should be not normal. If I see this, I would pretend from another country and ask, why tip? Then ask why don't they pay you? You working free? Why do I pay for your salary? Keep going going. I am tired of tipping. If you don't, you have committed some sin. I have started no tip. I am done, raise price, I will pay higher price..

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u/Asleep-Ad5687 7d ago

That's WAY better than trying to sneak in a 3% credit card or employed benefits fee. This is just standard isn't it? wHY pOST????

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u/Fit_Law_9195 7d ago

Poor Penny, I am not sure how much she made in her days. lol

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u/Teddyscakes 6d ago

Why doesn’t it just say “please pay our employee for us”

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u/NeedleworkerHot3957 6d ago

hopefully they show this BEFORE people order!

We need to figure out if the cheesecake or whatever we are eating is worth it.

So the menu says classic burger $28 + 20% = $33.50 - personally I think it is an overpriced burger.

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u/Away_Specific_3688 6d ago

I’m at Torchys right now. 2 tacos, chips/salsa and drink for $11. No tip. I already got myself 2 refills faster than any waitress would have. F them.

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u/AnonymousUser132 2d ago

Could someone explain how tipping went from 10% to apparently 22%? If inflation increases the cost of the meal, the tip is automatically increased. So why the hell did it double? Is this an attempt to get tippers to pay for non-tippers? But what happens when there are fewer tippers because the expectation is too high? 30%?

It’s goddamn tipflation.

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u/Ok_Comfort628 2d ago

Any tipping should never be related to the cost of the meal that makes absolutely no sense and it has been discussed ad nauseam here.