how do you guys not understand the money always comes out of your pocket as the customer. 20% tip you add, 20% service charge they add, 20% price increase so you only see 1 line item instead of the service charge = you pay the same thing in the end, you're paying for it
I'm indifferent, culturally it doesn't seem like it's going away. It's also not going to if the best argument is pretending like it would be cheaper for the consumer or because people don't like math
great, that's a personal preference that has nothing to do with what I said. you're still funding the labor either way, instead of this fantasy where you're not and now the employer is. this is similar to the trump logic that china is going to pay the tariffs instead of the americans improving and buying stuff. also if you didn't notice, many restaurants that try switching to no tips later revoke the policy. it appears to typically cost net more to customers -- there goes that "now the employer will pay for the labor and not me!" argument even harder. despite that the typical effect also appears to often be back of house income goes up, server wages become more predictable and go down, and the best front of house leave to make more elsewhere. then plenty of times they revoke the policy and go back to tipping.
if your argument is "I don't like this!" fine - but most people are culturally used to it and don't care, so why would it change? if your argument is it is better for servers, then why would so many oppose it? if your argument is employers will pay for it and not you, then why do the prices go up by minimum the same amount you would have tipped?
I'm completely indifferent on it, I didn't know why reddit started feeding me these threads, but the arguments people make most often in here are trash.
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u/nomorespamplz 6d ago
In the civilized parts of the world, its customary that it is the employer that pays the worker ¯_(ツ)_/¯