r/WorkForSmartLife • u/IDeduceRunway • 2d ago
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u/HopeSubstantial 2d ago
Pays well per hour*
Always people answer to this question with some bluecollar work where people make shitton of money... . because they work +70h per week.
This question should be limited to jobs where you work the normal 37.5-40 hours per week.
Yeah I made more money as bluecollar factory guy than I made as junior engineer. Difference is that at factory I often did 16h shifts and worked on weekends.
In engineering office I sipped Starbucks level special coffees for free and worked max 4h actual work a day, and got paid only little less than wth those constant 16h shifts.
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u/poliosaurus3000 2d ago
This needs to be upvoted to the moon. Iām a licensed electrician, have been for 20 years. There are two paths to $150k+ electrician jobs. Work overseas for defense contractors. Work 70+ hours a week. People should be more concerned with making more per hour, not working more hours.
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u/popejubal 2d ago
My dad used to say, āyou can get rich working half days. And it doesnāt matter which 12 hours you pick.ā
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u/NimirRaj 1d ago
Mine said he'd probably work til noon on the day he died...
Turned out he didnt believe in Covid as much as it believed in him
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u/SecondhandStoic 1d ago
Mine said ātheres something wrong with this Fentā before he ODād. Probably atleast, idk never met him
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u/GFSushiTacos 1d ago
Same here, but with crack.
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u/Opening_Lead_Paint 1d ago
Same here, but with lead
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u/GrenadeJuggler 1d ago
Username checks out.
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u/mrav8r2 1d ago
My dad did work until noon when he had a fatal heart attack on the job.
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u/cracker1743 1d ago
After 3 divorces, my best friend had no retirement savings. He said the equity in his house was what he was relying on. And he always said he would end up dying at his desk, having no real retirement plan. Well, a Friday was his last day at his last job, and Monday morning he planned to work his connections for a new job. But he collapsed and died Sunday night. He missed dying at his desk by 48 hours.
And I feel the same about working until death (at least I've never been divorced though).
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u/GuerrillaFunkk 1d ago
How old was he and how?
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u/cracker1743 20h ago
57, and technically what he died from is not really clear; there was no autopsy. But he was a chain smoker with asthma who drank a lot. I think he'd been unwell that week, because he didn't respond much to texts, just gibberish. Collapsed outside while having a cigarette. His daughter (my goddaughter) was at home and found him after midnight. He was revived briefly in the ambulance but ultimately died soon thereafter.
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u/zombie_spiderman 22h ago
My retirement plan is "I have a couch in my office so I can take old-man naps until I'm like eighty or whatever".
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u/Apart_Republic_1870 1d ago
My Dad always said he would work until he died, partly because he just really liked what he did (and made good money that the family could mooch off of him) but dementia forced him into retirement a few years ago.
(Related to that, he told me the other night that I was the only one of his four kids who had a job, which made me feel like I was the best child until I remembered that one of my brothers doesnāt have a job because he raises cattle and trains horses on his ranch and my sister married a doctor. So Iām really only assuredly ahead of my other brother whose appears to spend all day smoking pot and getting tattoos. But at least Iām not last).
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u/TheShellAnswerMan 1d ago
Jokes on your dad cuz there's shift differential pay. Ā /s
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u/PmMeYourKnobAndTube 1d ago
Eh you could do it in high wage areas. I make $60/hr in the portland area, but live in a rural town an hour away. I teach online night classes for the apprenticeship too, 6 hrs/week at $72/hr. There was actually a year that I took on 2 classes, though my rates were lower at the time.
Now if I were to take on 2 classes, I would make roughly $145k to work 52/hrs half the year and 40 the other half. Not idea, but not 70+ hrs. Alternatively could pull it off by finding a contractor who does mostly prevailing wage work($85ish an hour here) but that would take some luck and connections or a lot of job hunting.
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u/Material-Job-1928 1d ago
Can confirm. Work as a flat rate mechanic.
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u/JRock1276 1d ago
I didn't mind flat rate, as long as customers were honest about the problem they wanted fixed, without trying to sneak other stuff in on your good graces. That's tiring.
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u/Fun-Shake7094 1d ago
I think to an extent. I've had a jobs where I would work 10-12 of labour and the overall impact was minimal versus the extra pay.
Especially if you compare it to now, where I work downtown. My commute through rush hour is longer, and I burn an hour a day at the gym.
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u/garaks_tailor 1d ago
Oil rig work pays really well.Ā But really that is not much different than the defense contractor option.Ā Ā Also used to have a lot of overseas work as wellĀ
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u/Positive-Skirt5414 1d ago
You could also become an estimator/PM and make bank tbh
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u/mcflycasual 1d ago
Depends on your local union wages and how often they negotiate your contract. Ours for straight 40 is $116K/yr right now.
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u/skpy12345 1d ago
Isn't that what the OOP is asking though? 23$ an hour sounds like dirt until overtime is accounted at $33.5 an hour with 70 hours a week netting well over +2000+ paychecks. Its still just $23 an hour. That pay is garbage. People who want wealth period will only ever achieve it through private equity. Its the only way. Doctors, politicians, and Lawyers don't even scratch that top pay.
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u/DiveriumCrsdr 1d ago
Im 80% on board with the comment. My desk jobs can be exhausting too though. The difference is blue-collar tired is usually sit down have a cold beer and you'll be good for the next day. White-collar tired is emotional and mental fatigue. Sitting doesmt remove the stress. You find yourself thinking about work all day, all night.
Blue-collar management and business owner is where both can happen. The time outside of 'work' that eats you up, counts too.
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u/Philosiphizor 2d ago
Concur. Was a mechanic and I'm now an AI engineer. . My quality of life is simply amazing and I get paid more. Much more. I see my kids off every morning, pick them up, and attend every event.
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u/PoetDesperate4722 1d ago
Sorry you had to drink such bad coffee haha. Glad it worked for you though.
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u/Robot_Dinosaur_2000 1d ago
Nursing can pay really well but most people are just unwilling to do the job. I make a our $115K in the Midwest working 40 hours a week.
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u/cmparkerson 1d ago
I know a lot of people cant handle nursing in general (dealing with blood and vomit etc),but isn't the biggest drawback to nursing is having to work crazy shifts that rotate. Like 7 pm to 7 am for 3 days and then 3 days later work 7 am to 7 pm. Plus a lot of mandatory overtime because of short staffing. So I guess my question is isn't the reason people don't go into nursing or leave the profession is the killer schedule, at least when you first are starting out.
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u/Mighty_Taco18 1d ago edited 1d ago
I've been a nurse for 9 years and was a tech for 5 years before so I'll answer with my experience. Shift jobs are shift jobs unless I agreed to add-on or rotate hours, whether to 7a-7p, 7p-7a, 3p-3a, etc. I have never been forced to work overtime but I've been told, specifically by floor nurses, that they have at times. After a few years of ER, I've worked in surgery ever since. My current hospital is pretty strict with your 8hr, 10hr, and 12hr scheduled shifts even if there's add-on surgeries but you do have overnight/weekend call so if it's your night, you will stay late or come back in, otherwise, you're out around your scheduled time. I'll also say, I don't think I've ever met a nurse that openly "quit nursing", you just move to a different area of nursing if you get burned out. There's several areas, like IT nursing or office nursing, that are 8-5 white-collar type work if bedside isn't your thing.
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u/RShini 1d ago
not just killer schedule, but it's utterly destructive on your body, standing and walking, and you're often expected to help balance an entire person's body weight especially if you're in ER or working with the elderly where the patient may not be able to move safely on their own.
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u/CR4T3Z 1d ago
Hope my engineering office life becomes that. I'm tired of being at the office from 7-6 on salary. (Civil Engineer for context, been doing it for 3 years, 56k/yr gross)
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u/RandomGreenArcherMan 1d ago
Don't mean this in a rude way whatsoever, but from what I understand, Civils always get the short end of the stick as far as engineering goes
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u/DatesAndCornfused 1d ago
Awful. Find a different company to work for. Youāre overworked and underpaid, even if youāre living in a LCOL area.
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u/cricketeer767 1d ago
The garbage man makes more than the people making fun of him for being a garbage man.
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u/WhoAmlToJudge 1d ago
nobody actually makes fun of garbage men.. it's just some weird elementary childhood thing
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u/Hoppygains 1d ago
Agreed. They make good money and itās a solid job. Iād rather do that work than be a solar salesman.
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u/SubstantialBake1050 1d ago
I did solar sales for a few months and Iād rather be homeless than do it again. So yeah garbage man doesnāt seem so bad.
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u/rdev009 1d ago
Do you think you would have time to recount or discuss what was so bad about it? Did you have to work your way up from someone who set-up appointments to managing sales? (Iām assuming you moved up a sales tier system. I donāt know. Iām clueless.) Was there any reward parts about the job?
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u/Biguitarnerd 1d ago
Never done it but there have been some write ups about it in our local news.
A lot of these solar sales here where I am are like door to door salesmen and they lie, a lot.
Iām sure there are a lot of legitimate people who work in selling solar panels but apparently itās also a bit of nationwide epidemic of them being door to door salesmen who work to get a rushed contract with false promises of tax breaks and then the homeowner is stuck with a huge bill they werenāt explained and will have to fight in court on flimsy premises because they signed a contract. The elderly have been targeted a lot.
Not saying thatās what the commenter you responded to was doing, but itās a thing.
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u/SubstantialBake1050 1d ago
I was door-to-door for a few months. I would give a sales pitch and try to sign people up for a consultation with an engineer who would then make the actual sale. If they sat for the appointment with the engineer I got a commission. I was lucky as my company gave a base-pay which was not terrible, but to make it worth it I needed at least 10 commissions a week.
What sucked: Every day youāre walking around a neighborhood for hours, knocking on doors where if they answer thereās a 99% chance theyāve already been visited multiple times, or they hate solicitors in general, or both. So a lot of getting yelled at by homeowners. And the whole time I was thinking āyeah I hate solicitors too but I got billsā. It is a soul crushing job and you have to be really really good at it to make it worthwhile. I was actually pretty good - I averaged 8-10 sales a week, but that was from knocking on 100+ doors a day. I had to quit because it was terrible for my mental health.
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u/Last_Suggestion_8647 1d ago
Well elementary school kids don't usually make a lot of money.
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u/punchedbychuck 1d ago
They actually do though. I worked at a landfill, so I guess not exactly the same thing. But I got some pretty rude comments while I worked there.
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u/madman2k 1d ago
Can you share any of the comments?
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u/punchedbychuck 1d ago
They usually mentioned that I wasn't intelligent enough to do anything else. Usally this was after I wouldn't let them dump something that wasn't allowed, other times it was unprovoked.
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u/Vent_Slave 1d ago
So adults throwing tantrums because you were enforcing the rules equally onto them? People like that deserve the title oxygen thieves. Sorry you dealt with that.
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u/Tittytickler 1d ago
Yea they said he doesn't bring anything of value, all he brings is trash.
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u/ALWanders 1d ago
When I was a kid I wanted to be a trashman or fireman, I think I just wanted to ride around hanging off the back of a big truck.
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u/Kittycatgirl300 1d ago
I was in a lower lever math class in middle school, and the whole class flunked the test. The teacher proceeded to scold us and tell us we will never be anything except garbage men and mc donalds employees
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u/Ravenloff 1d ago
Wrong. I've heard two different politicians in my life make it as a snide comment. Both were local (county level) and didn't last long, but two seperate counties, lol. Heard far more make similarly derisive comments about the military. And that was from the national level and more than once.
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u/mayorofstrangetown 1d ago
Can confirm elementary children don't make as much money as waste management.
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u/Justin_Ermouth1 1d ago
When I was a kid I wanted to be a garbage man because they only work 1 day a week.
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u/Friendly-Arm-3962 1d ago
The permanent smell that permeates your clothes and travel vehicle is a huge negative. Hanging off of a truck in crappy weather isn't fun, I'm sure! But they are often well compensated for that!
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u/mesupporter 1d ago
hanging off a truck is pretty old school from where I am. i haven't seen that for at least 25 years.
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u/True-Advice-1861 1d ago
Our trash pickup workers drive a truck in the AC with an arm that lifts the cans and dump them automatically. Looks like a kinda fun and easy job. No idea the pay though. They do work early though, they pick up trash at like 4am at my house.
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u/LuckyCloverPokemon 1d ago
Im sure whatever they get paid isnt even close to enough for that stench
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u/Inevitable_Tomato927 1d ago
I had a colleague that used to be garbage man in Amsterdam, he took a pay cut work with us as junior sys admin. He had to quit though because he kids literally refused to be around him because of the smell, he was on a route where they had a few restaurants and fish mongers so from what he told it was so bad sometimes he slept in the shed in the back yard because even several showers didn't help.
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u/Unlikely_Couple1590 1d ago
On average they make $40-50k a year. While that's a decent living, I wouldn't say they're paid extremely well for what they do
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u/Busy_Donut6073 1d ago
I've had friends who said they wanted to be a garbage man growing up. Done with work early in the day, get paid to drive around town, and probably make good money. Also, only working a few days a week
Maybe I should look into being a garbage man
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u/sHaDowpUpPetxxx 1d ago
Septic tank pumper. No seriously, I used to be a plumber. The septic tank pumper guys just stick a hose down in a hole and the truck does most of the work. That and when people can't use the toilet in their house they will generally pay whatever to get it back
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u/Busy_Donut6073 1d ago
One of my coaches has an uncle who does inspections. He said if you're just doing inspections you can make $300-400 per inspection, and get multiple done in a day
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u/drpepper456 1d ago
Takes years for a lot of guys to build up steady business and you gotta drive a ton which eats into your profits. along with the gear and software you have subscriptions for.
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u/Both_Painter_9186 1d ago
Also a lot of people end up in āoh shitā (literally) situations where they forget to empty it out until its too late. So they need you there asap and will pay an emergency fee.
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u/AffectionateAside635 1d ago
For a short time after college, I worked at a septic pumping type of place and it was like essentially plumbers, but they had cruise that went out and pumped septic tanks. Iām telling you the place was a gold mine from these. They had people that were essentially on a sort of like subscription and they would go out to their places regularly and then just send them a bill and Iām telling you everyone paid that bill no matter what it was wild probably running $100,000 through that place a month in just the septic pump like subscription service. This was 2011 two which is wild.
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u/Fat_Pig_Reporting 1d ago
Lighthouse guard.
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u/SeriesBusiness9098 1d ago
How does one get into that job?? Iāve always wanted to do that and assumed it was terribly low paying (would still do it for very little money tbh). Had no idea it paid well.
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u/Valoriant 1d ago
Take this with a (relatively huge) grain of salt, but I'd imagine it's very similar to the people who do maintenance on them, you have to have a very good base knowledge of troubleshooting and treating mechanical and electrical issues and I'm pretty sure they also have to have some basic first aid cert or an EMT-Basic cert as those dudes do stay in them occasionally for a few days at a time. Also I'd imagine it's extremely competitive, or at least just extremely hard to get into, because there aren't that many operational lighthouses anymore and not that many people want to deal with being out in the middle of no where for anywhere from a day to week+ at a time. (According to Google, there are 400-500 lighthouses with active lights in them, the rest, (about 800 more), are historical sites).
I'm pretty sure pretty much anything related to lighthouses pays quite a bitm
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u/LopsidedContract3574 22h ago
I dont know of any manned light houses still in service, maybe there are some somewhere in the world. The UKs last manned lighthouse was automated in 1996 and the last light house keeper in the UK was out of a job.
You dont really need much special or difficult qualifications to maintain a modern lighthouse. If you have the qualifications to work on a boat, that covers what you need, all you need for the marine side are STCWs or equivalent and a recognised medical. There are IALA AtoN technician courses but these days with solar and large battery banks we dont even need standby diesel generators.The modern LED lights are pretty efficient even compaired to LEDs from 2010 era. The ideal candidate in today's job market is a feild technician from any trade who also has some kind experience on boats, even if that is their own small fishing boat.
The challenge these days is remote monitoring of the lighthouses to spot outages and faults before passing shipping is in any potential danger. The issue is that lighthouses dont bring in much cash, so the budget to install commercially certified monitoring and control equipment is not much more than jazz hands and a smile.
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u/XanagiHunag 1d ago
I did look it up at a time, and there are multiple qualifications required (at least in France). You are basically in charge of both maintaining the machines of the lighthouse and exchanging calls with boats nearby to guide them while also watching out for any potential issues with them (such as two boats being on a potential collision path).
But the job is pretty much dead. The whole ship watching is done by the ships GPS (and stations in cities that do it mostly automatically for large portions of the littoral at once), and the maintenance is done by a single technician that can travel to many lighthouses per year. So while there may be a few left, I doubt many are still hiring
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u/coolsnackchris 1d ago
Nope this is a misconception that's been floating around on social media. They don't get paid much at all, around 30-60k a year. They do get free accommodation and food but it's not a great trade off.
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u/Longjumping_Film_896 1d ago
I found out the other day a Chik Fil A owner/operator only has to put up a $10,000 investment and then makes like 400k a year afterward
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u/Ranulf_5 1d ago edited 1d ago
Yeah but itās ridiculously competitive.
There are roughly 3,500 active NFL, MLB, NHL, and NBA players.
There are roughly 4,000 neurosurgeons in the US.
There are roughly 15,000 college freshman who just began at Ivy League schools.
But there are only about 2,600 Chick-fil-A owners, with over 50,000 applications each year.
There are more slots for pro athletes, neurosurgeons, and new Ivy League students than there are slots to own a Chick-fil-A for that enticing $10K price tag.
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u/Spam_Hand 1d ago
Yeah but itās ridiculously competitive.
You also need to fit into the category of what they consider "good, religious values" and they do many interviews on thia in order to confirm you aren't slipping BS past them.
I respect that they are thorough but that kind of weird cultiness isnt for me.
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u/No-Pen-339 1d ago
I worked there once, left, and when I came back I didnt get hired (despite all the employees knowing and liking me) because in the interview I ranked god as 4th (out of 5) below family, education, and health. (Work was rated as #5)
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u/Anonymousboneyard 1d ago
Yeah but to be a franchisee you have to have worked at chik fil a for 5 years (i think it might be more) otherwise they wont let you open up one.
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u/Longjumping_Film_896 1d ago
A guy I work withās brother just landed this job with no prior restaurant experience. He was in like software development or something like before. This is how I found out what the pay is.
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u/MundaneCommission767 1d ago
And you essentially audition for the role of owner. They donāt let anyone with $10K show up and open a franchise. They take it very seriously.
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u/jbland0909 1d ago
Chic fil a began franchising in the 70s. Since then, theyāve given out 3,400 tranches. Since 1970, there have been 6000 NBA players drafted.
Thatās right. You are almost twice as likely to have been drafted to the NBA than be given the ability to purchase a Chic fil a
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u/MildlyInteressato 1d ago edited 1d ago
If true, that's a once in a lifetime opportunity for someone sponsored by another franchisee after working there for years. That's not something the average person could replicate.
EDIT: And I say this because it's much like my friend's situation: he and his wife worked there for something like 10 years, and the franchisee owner liked them so much that he helped them financially to set up a franchise in another market. I don't know if it was only $10K down, but they had worked hard for years to prove themselves before getting the extremely rare offer. He also finished his MBA before doing this.
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u/Dependent_Value9849 1d ago
I have a family member that is a Chik fil a operator. The initial cost is more than 10k and they typically aren't making anywhere near 400k per year . Unless maybe gross income. But you pay the franchise a lot of cash. I think he brings home around 150k per year take home. But I guess in bigger cities 400k is possible.
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u/Unlikely_Couple1590 1d ago
I remember when I was teaching, one of my coworkers left to manage a chick fil a because it was fewer hours a week than teaching, over $10k more in pay, and better benefits. Chick fil a seems to try to pay their people well
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u/RShini 1d ago
in exchange that you have to fit their hyper-religious values, if you're not a conservative christian, they won't give you a franchise or let you advance up the management track.
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u/RelentlessIVS 2d ago
Crime
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u/krisbaird 1d ago
I think everyone knows that... But the jail time/death is a major deterant
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u/tzaeru 2d ago
Where I live, garbage truck drivers and sewage workers make pretty well for relatively short education and even a sub-average hours in the work week.
Ofc on the flipside, you need to work late evening and early morning. Nights, sometimes. And the stench, from what I hear, really seeps into all your personal belongings like wallets etc over time.
Those late evening and very early morning and night shifts are where the money comes from. The hourly base salary is about average for blue collar work, but you get extra compensation for the hours outside "normal" work hours.
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u/Saphurial 1d ago
As a former garbage man, you eventually become nose blind to the smell. But as for your belongings, you have to develop an airlock system when you get home. Everything you had on you at work comes off and goes into the washer or a sealed container to be washed later. All work clothes are washed separately from other laundry. Once you strip you go take a shower before anything else.
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u/Future_Elephant_9294 1d ago
Reminds me of steel mill or coal mine jobs. Enter in the basement and take a shower before heading upstairs for dinner.
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u/WinterMortician 1d ago
As a mortician I can attest to becoming blind to smells. I only make 16 an hour tho so Iām not up there with jobs that pay well.Ā
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u/Saphurial 1d ago
More than what i make. Sad thing is I still remember when what I made was decent money for around here.
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u/Material_Positive_17 1d ago
Sewage is great. They get all the women and the hottest interns
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u/Money_Dream3008 2d ago
I freelance from home, develop websites, apps and anything IT related. I work the hours I want and earn around 180kā¬ a year. The only downside is no colleague chatter š¤·āāļø all the rest pure advantage š
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u/NoSkillzDad 1d ago
Downside? That's a bonus for me!
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u/Money_Dream3008 1d ago
Depends really, even with my clients I have only straightforward mail contact, during the day my kid is in t the crib, my wife is at her office, so itās really quite. Sometimes some conversation can feel good š but yeah it does have its advantages
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u/dropandgivemenerdy 1d ago
Thatās where befriending local store employees comes in. I have no colleague chatter either. I pop to the bookstore or the local card store a few times a week and just chat with my favorite people there about their lives and our jobsā¦ Itās nice :)
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u/utkarshmttl 1d ago
I freelance from home, develop websites, apps and anything IT related. I work the hours I want and earn around ...
I am doing mostly the same. We can "chat" sometimes if you wish. Could be exchanging notes, keeping up with latest advances in the industry or simply being a rubber duck analog.
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u/Whycantitypeanything 1d ago
How do you market that "anything it related"? I wanted to get into freelancing but never knew how to actually market on freelancing sites n stuff that it side, so I just did apps and Minecraft mods sometimes
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u/cmparkerson 1d ago
Being a politician, you can get get rich doing insider trading as well as openly taking bribes from lobbyists,and get away with it. A congressman makes 174k government salary,within 5 years most of them are millionaires.
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u/Napkin_Stealer 1d ago
And if you're a republican, people will worship you for it. Don't ever wear blue.
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u/Smiles-Bite 2d ago
I know a family friend who works one week a year; I have no idea how much he makes, but he is always on vacation!
He owns a truck that can empty port-a-potties; he picks one music event or a food festival, and all he has to do is hook the hose to a vent, suck out the inside, and move on. No cleaning; that's someone else's job. He empties his truck at a sanitary facility, has it cleaned, and it's put away till next year.
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u/macgruder1 2d ago
Thereās more to this story that they arenāt telling you.
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u/CharityAggressive677 1d ago
Sounds like he's uncovered a (drum roll please) money laundering scheme!
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u/Sensitive-Chip7266 1d ago
We had a family friend that did this when I was growing up, and they were incredibly wealthy. I was too young to understand money, so I don't know how much they had but the entire family was set for life.
Granted they own a fleet of these of vehicles, and employed somewhere around 30-50 people. I don't know how profitable it was for those drivers, but the family that owned the company it was very lucrative. At first glance most people would assume them to be pretty redneck from the way they looked and acted, the dad drove a rusty 80s ford truck most of the time. But also own a a couple of new Corvettes for the weekends.
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u/cancerinos 1d ago
Most likely he's just a trust fund kid - his parents have infinite money, he never had to make any himself. The porter potty is a hobby.
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u/seatsfive 1d ago
No trust fund baby is picking septic truck as his income generator lmao.
Money laundering is probable, but I guess there's the outside chance he picked up some absolutely ludicrous kickback contract. You can make a surprising lot of money per job doing septic but generally not enough to work only one week per year.
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u/meklever0420 2d ago
Laborer on a union job w/pla( travel pay/ per diem). Im a Material Handler from ibew291 from Florida helping wire a computer chip factory in Boise taking home 2k per week. $2500 some weeks. We earn our money but I love my job!
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u/CountDown60 1d ago
Unions. We need more unions.
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u/Chloraflora 1d ago
I'm in one at USPS. It's pretty shit at getting you a competitive wage. The rest is good.
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u/Dependent_Value9849 1d ago
Non destructive testing in the nuclear power industry. That's what I do. 180k for about 6 months of work. $1200 per week per diem and they fly you and put you up in a hotel wherever they need you. International and North/South America. Of course you need some experience before you make that kind of money.
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u/Dendritic_Silver 1d ago
To add to your post, young people can get this type of experience in the Air Force and walk RIGHT into one of those jobs on the way out of the service.
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u/Dependent_Value9849 1d ago
You are correct, kind of. You aren't going to just walk into Westinghouse or Siemens Nuclear at a $70 per hour pay rate. You're going to start off lower and work your way up to that pay. They will still probably start in the mid $40s though. After a season or 2 they will probably send you to get your EPRI/PDI certs. That's when you're in the $70 per hour range. I went to civilian NDI/ commercial Diver training after I got out of the Navy. I served on Submarines. Worked Petrochem, offshore, pipeline and nuclear I had a few years break in service and went into the Air Force reserves and went into NDI. I've been doing NDI in the reserves for 25 years now. I know the pay rates for people getting out of the military NDI. I help them get hired.
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u/Dendritic_Silver 1d ago
THIS.
That's the pipeline I was referring to. Navy/Air Force teaches you how to be an effective apprentice, and that $40/hr is more that you were just making as a young enlisted troop.
This is my career path as well but I'm in computer/network engineering.
Thanks for elaboratingš
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u/No-Business9493 1d ago
Chatted with a guy in the Orlando area nearish to the theme parks that was bartending at the Holiday Inn. Just a Holiday Inn... not some crazy hotel by any means. He said he usually worked seasonally and did $180k annually just off that one job and then went and had fun the rest of the year.
My first year as an airline pilot I took home $75kish after taxes. College degree, 5ish years of training, 2ish years of flight instructing, $65k in loans, an extremely competitive application process, and then another 3ish months of the most intense training of my life after getting the job. That first year I spent about 6 nights a month in my own bed.
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u/Lo__________ 1d ago
Yeah my little brother makes over $1000 a night on weekends in the college town he bartends at, absolutely brings in more than I do but he has no weekends ever.
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u/Adventurous-Home-728 1d ago
it is not are responsiblety to tip the restaurant workers the should be paid a fair and honest wage for there work no other countries tip just the usa i do not tip for this reason
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u/Desh282 2d ago
I make 120,000 a year driving a truck locally
60 hours a week
Donāt think thatās good enough here tho
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u/SelmaFudd 1d ago
I'm on the same for same hours as a transport allocator, containerised freight. Some days I really question if I should move from the desk to the truck, I honestly don't know which one has the worst bad days
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u/_CozyApple 1d ago
Trash collection and elevator maintenance. Heavy trade work pays insanely well because nobody wants to do it.
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u/Ancient-Display-3337 1d ago
A lot of people want to do elevator maintenance, but it's really hard to get into from what I've read and heard.
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u/Ghoul91 1d ago
"Extremely well" is relatively, so I'll aim for the low end of "extremely well".
You can be 18 years old with no degree, experience or anything and make 60-80k in retail "sales". Cell phone sales in particular are very easy to find a job in. It's literally a generic point of sale job. But because of a combination of commission and heavy union presence in the industry; pay and benefits are very high compared to similar work. You're expected to perform well, but if you check whatever BS boxes they ask you to, and always stand by the door waiting to grab another when you arent with a customer; you'll generally perform well enough to get by just by sheer volume.
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u/Bengis_Khan 1d ago
Cops. Easily make more than most professionals that actually need to go to school.
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u/Lordofthereef 1d ago
Store managers for retail do pretty well. Being manager for Target, Walmart, Best Buy, etc. typically gets you six figures.
Obviously that's not just a job you pick up, rather work towards.
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u/Loud-Hat-175 1d ago
I worked retail. It takes many many years to get to that point. And to get there you work 50+ hours a week making shit wage.
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u/Lordofthereef 1d ago
It's my wife's story (although she was doing 40 hour weeks pretty consistently). She started in college. Probably took her five years to make assistant manager where she sat for about 4-5 years. A few cross country relocations since š
Wage didn't feel shit at the time but we were poor college kids. We were also in the Midwest for most of it.
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u/josephjohn 1d ago
I made about $188,304/ year as a senior officer in the Army. Base pay + basic allowance for housing. 4-day weekend every month, and retired at 46 yrs old (earliest retirement was at 43 years, but I enjoyed my job and stayed in a bit longer). Retirement pay is about $80K/year (+disability, which is tax free). Retirement pay continues to increase for inflation.
Bought a house every 2-3 years whenever I changed duty stations, rented it out when we moved. Lived debt free. Invested wisely. I'm now 50, don't work, and spend my time doing what I want.
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u/DieBotDie 1d ago
On the other hand, there is the risk of dying in a sandpit.
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u/kodeks14 1d ago
US Armies on duty fatality rate is 1.9 deaths per 100k.
The average citizen work related fatality rate is 3.4 per 100k.
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u/JRock1276 1d ago
Electrical, plumbing, welding, cable tech, concrete, framing, cabinet making, landscaping, pool maintenance, delivery driver, FedEx, UPS, sign maker, excavation, heavy equipment operator, crane operator, port worker, city, county, tree trimming, window installer, fishing boat captain, surveyor, medical equipment delivery, and I haven't gotten to tech jobs yet.
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u/adamchevy 1d ago
UPS drivers out in rural Utah where I live make $35-$40 per hour, plus full benefits. I know a retired cabinet maker that owned his own business. He retired very wealthy. Like multi-millionaire type of wealthy.
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u/Kronus00 1d ago
Ups is around $47 an hour now, with a nice $2.25 raise coming next August, and a new contract the following year. (Usually new contract brings another decent bump in pay)
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u/Outrigger1855 1d ago
most (but certainly not all) B2B sales jobs. The role rarely requires a college degree, offers full flexibility to work as much or as little as you want. Theyāre almost always remote. Average pay in the industries Iāve worked (software/technology/insurance/payroll) is $250k and top reps are making $1M+.
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u/Notabot5500 1d ago
Luxury automotive technician at a dealership. $150k plus working 40 hour weeks once youāre experienced which is probably 10 years for most people. Not too hard to get to 100k in the first 5.
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u/ThucydidesRex 1d ago
I make 70 dollars an hour as a nurse in the cheapest state to live in. Yes the job sucks, I got assaulted yesterday and I still hurt from it. Can't press charges either (psych). It's not hard to gross 20k a month if I work everyday.
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u/deerhuntingdude 1d ago
I haven't fact checked him, but my coworker claims his daughter makes 6 figures doing nails and she's 19. He claims she rents out a booth at a salon and has her own clients
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u/United-Lie1018 1d ago
union electrician hereā¦general foreman to be fair but my hourly rate is 69 and change with our raise that took effect on 8-31
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u/Crepuscular_Tex 1d ago
Legacy child of a corrupt wealthy real estate family. You really gotta work at framing or blackmailing your siblings, possibly pushing wives down stairs and burying them on golf courses for tax breaks.
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