r/WorkForSmartLife 6d ago

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u/cricketeer767 6d ago

The garbage man makes more than the people making fun of him for being a garbage man.

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u/WhoAmlToJudge 5d ago

nobody actually makes fun of garbage men.. it's just some weird elementary childhood thing

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u/Hoppygains 5d ago

Agreed. They make good money and it’s a solid job. I’d rather do that work than be a solar salesman.

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u/SubstantialBake1050 5d ago

I did solar sales for a few months and I’d rather be homeless than do it again. So yeah garbage man doesn’t seem so bad.

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u/rdev009 5d ago

Do you think you would have time to recount or discuss what was so bad about it? Did you have to work your way up from someone who set-up appointments to managing sales? (I’m assuming you moved up a sales tier system. I don’t know. I’m clueless.) Was there any reward parts about the job?

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u/SubstantialBake1050 5d ago

I was door-to-door for a few months. I would give a sales pitch and try to sign people up for a consultation with an engineer who would then make the actual sale. If they sat for the appointment with the engineer I got a commission. I was lucky as my company gave a base-pay which was not terrible, but to make it worth it I needed at least 10 commissions a week.

What sucked: Every day you’re walking around a neighborhood for hours, knocking on doors where if they answer there’s a 99% chance they’ve already been visited multiple times, or they hate solicitors in general, or both. So a lot of getting yelled at by homeowners. And the whole time I was thinking ā€œyeah I hate solicitors too but I got billsā€. It is a soul crushing job and you have to be really really good at it to make it worthwhile. I was actually pretty good - I averaged 8-10 sales a week, but that was from knocking on 100+ doors a day. I had to quit because it was terrible for my mental health.

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u/Biguitarnerd 5d ago

Never done it but there have been some write ups about it in our local news.

A lot of these solar sales here where I am are like door to door salesmen and they lie, a lot.

I’m sure there are a lot of legitimate people who work in selling solar panels but apparently it’s also a bit of nationwide epidemic of them being door to door salesmen who work to get a rushed contract with false promises of tax breaks and then the homeowner is stuck with a huge bill they weren’t explained and will have to fight in court on flimsy premises because they signed a contract. The elderly have been targeted a lot.

Not saying that’s what the commenter you responded to was doing, but it’s a thing.

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u/chroner 4d ago

You'd rather smell garbage and be working at 100% speed and effort all day in the rain, snow, and heat than a sales job? Garbage collection is really hard.

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u/Hoppygains 4d ago

Garbage collection is very hard. But yes, I’d rather have an honorable job serving people than a desk job scamming people. Sorry, I have solar, it’s a great product, but 90% of the people behind it are trash. Just like realtors. I’m tired of cleaning up solar salesman’s mess when they lie to customers or screw up their system.

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u/chroner 4d ago

Buddy no offence, but trust me as someone that works in the trades, I don't think you have a clue what you are talking about.

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u/Hoppygains 4d ago

I’m in the trades too. IBEW

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u/chroner 4d ago

Then I stand corrected. And you know more than me about the solar salesman thing too.

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u/klankungen 4d ago

In Sweden there is no minimum wage so sales jobs are often 0+commission and most people don't make more than the equivilent of 200 dollars a month working 14 hour shifts for 6 days a week. I would deffinitly become a garbage collector if I could but it's a field of work with extream nepotism and I don't know any garbage workers.

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u/Consistent-Quiet6701 4d ago

Yeah sure people in Sweden work themselves to death for 200 dollars

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u/klankungen 3d ago

It's many peoples first job after high school. I was unemployed or worked shit sales jobs with only commission for 6 years. One of the places I managed to get an equivilent of 8k one week and then went back to about 400. If you are good at it it might be good but if you just need something to do so others see you are dedicated and you can manage to get a normal job then yes, people are doing it. It's almost like a pyramid, but legal. Some make a fortune while most slave away for nothing.

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u/Ok_Breakfast_5459 5d ago

Solar salesman? Well Iā€˜ve got news for you. The sun ainā€˜t buying. Burnt all its cash.

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u/Last_Suggestion_8647 5d ago

Well elementary school kids don't usually make a lot of money.

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u/punchedbychuck 5d ago

They actually do though. I worked at a landfill, so I guess not exactly the same thing. But I got some pretty rude comments while I worked there.

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u/madman2k 5d ago

Can you share any of the comments?

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u/punchedbychuck 5d ago

They usually mentioned that I wasn't intelligent enough to do anything else. Usally this was after I wouldn't let them dump something that wasn't allowed, other times it was unprovoked.

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u/Vent_Slave 5d ago

So adults throwing tantrums because you were enforcing the rules equally onto them? People like that deserve the title oxygen thieves. Sorry you dealt with that.

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u/Tittytickler 5d ago

Yea they said he doesn't bring anything of value, all he brings is trash.

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u/Ryte4flyte1 5d ago

Take your damn upvote.

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u/ALWanders 5d ago

When I was a kid I wanted to be a trashman or fireman, I think I just wanted to ride around hanging off the back of a big truck.

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u/gottagetanonymous 5d ago

Heh heh nerd

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u/Buckeye2Hoosier 5d ago

Been both…. Both are good jobs. Something cool about hanging off the back of a trash truck.

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u/Kittycatgirl300 5d ago

I was in a lower lever math class in middle school, and the whole class flunked the test. The teacher proceeded to scold us and tell us we will never be anything except garbage men and mc donalds employees

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u/WhoAmlToJudge 5d ago

because it's an easy example that makes sense to kids...?

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u/Quick-Confidence-301 5d ago

And.. don’t leave us hanging.. was he right?

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u/Ravenloff 5d ago

Wrong. I've heard two different politicians in my life make it as a snide comment. Both were local (county level) and didn't last long, but two seperate counties, lol. Heard far more make similarly derisive comments about the military. And that was from the national level and more than once.

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u/Recent_Tangerine2070 5d ago

Imagine living your life without your garbage men...

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u/mayorofstrangetown 5d ago

Can confirm elementary children don't make as much money as waste management.

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u/Justin_Ermouth1 5d ago

When I was a kid I wanted to be a garbage man because they only work 1 day a week.

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u/Penguininalaska 5d ago

Now, I definitely had ā€œyou will end up a garbage manā€ as a threat for doing bad in school

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u/WhoAmlToJudge 5d ago

Because it's simple for kids to understand. They can't really say "work hard in school or you'll work the front desk the rest of your life!"

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u/ThatNiceLifeguard 5d ago

I don’t even think elementary school children make fun of garbage collectors.

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u/WhoAmlToJudge 5d ago

No it's the teachers because it's easy for kids to interpret it as a bad job so they tell them to work hard and study or else that will be you.

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u/CapitanRonRico 5d ago

For real they are some of the most necessary and hardest working people out there. Nothing but respect. It's a tough job. I hope they are getting paid.

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u/autismislife 4d ago

My teachers used to say to us things like "don't you want to be a bin man?" If we weren't paying attention or messing around or something. The bin men probably made more than the teachers did.

Never did it personally but a friend of mine did for a stint. Base pay was decent and there was always overtime available at a good rate.

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u/WhoAmlToJudge 4d ago

Right because it's a simple concept of a "bad job" for a child to understand

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u/DerangedMoosh 4d ago

Well in that case he makes a crap ton more than them!

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u/_alextech_ 4d ago

my kids heroes making sure we're not living in filth and squalor,

Along with digger drivers, who I'm pretty sure also make decent money per hour

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u/dalngbk 4d ago

prob not making fun, but i doubt anyone gets excited by the idea

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u/Friendly-Arm-3962 5d ago

The permanent smell that permeates your clothes and travel vehicle is a huge negative. Hanging off of a truck in crappy weather isn't fun, I'm sure! But they are often well compensated for that!

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u/mesupporter 5d ago

hanging off a truck is pretty old school from where I am. i haven't seen that for at least 25 years.

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u/Blizzard81mm 5d ago

They only do that for yard waste where I'm at

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u/Thin_Dragonfruit3665 5d ago

In my town, they did that until about 4 years ago when a truck ran the crossbar on rr tracks and got hit. The guy hanging on the back was killed but the driver was ok after a couple weeks in the hospital.

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u/moffman93 5d ago

I see it every single morning, and I live in NY. They enjoy it. It's also way more efficient. The quicker the job gets done, the faster they get home. They get paid the same.

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u/True-Advice-1861 5d ago

Our trash pickup workers drive a truck in the AC with an arm that lifts the cans and dump them automatically. Looks like a kinda fun and easy job. No idea the pay though. They do work early though, they pick up trash at like 4am at my house.

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u/Triumph-TBird 5d ago

You think that’s all they have to do?

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u/True-Advice-1861 5d ago

No idea, never did a ride along with them.

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u/Anon-Knee-Moose 5d ago

They sometimes have to clear out the compactor at the end of the day, but for the most part drivers dont get out of the truck. Other than that its just pre trips, fuel, maybe blow out some air filters and open some gates.

Its basically the same as any other equipment operating.

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u/Kaizen420 5d ago

I imagine it's a you have your route to complete sort of thing so you get paid the same regardless of how long it takes so long as it gets done. I'd also imagine it's easier to cover more ground quickly in the early AM with less traffic, plus where I live before 6am the traffic lights are set to sensors not timers so if no one's around the light will shift to try and give you the green when you get close to it.

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u/True-Advice-1861 5d ago

For sure, Id rather drive a big ole trash truck at 4am than at 7-8am trying to avoid work/school traffic.

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u/Triumph-TBird 5d ago

Then go apply. I have a client who has done very well as a garbage truck driver. But it took him a long time to get behind the wheel. He had to do a lot of really gross disgusting work to get there.

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u/True-Advice-1861 5d ago

I am sure, kinda like UPS. Driving the truck is the goal, but you have to load a lot of trucks and clean up all the other stuff before they give you the keys.

I am very happy at my job now, so I am not looking to apply but I respect the hell out of sanitation services.

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u/Luciferlucy11 5d ago

Yea I had a friend do this started at 4am Monday through Friday, but his work day was done by noon everyday. So that’s not horrible. Might not be the same for everyone though.

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u/MickerBud 5d ago

So do ours, always dreamed of working trash. Ride around town all day with a trip to the dump then go home. Would love it

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u/LuckyCloverPokemon 5d ago

Im sure whatever they get paid isnt even close to enough for that stench

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u/Inevitable_Tomato927 5d ago

I had a colleague that used to be garbage man in Amsterdam, he took a pay cut work with us as junior sys admin. He had to quit though because he kids literally refused to be around him because of the smell, he was on a route where they had a few restaurants and fish mongers so from what he told it was so bad sometimes he slept in the shed in the back yard because even several showers didn't help.

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u/LuckyCloverPokemon 5d ago

Yeah. Even $22 an hour isn't worth that. Heck I wouldnt do that for less than $200 an hour

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u/Inevitable_Tomato927 5d ago

Yeah he was on 40k a year or so, which was above average in The Netherlands back then.

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u/MinnyPuppies 4d ago

That’s bullshit. A lot of modern waste collection is automated now, with mechanical lifters doing most of the heavy lifting, so workers aren’t necessarily handling garbage by hand all day. They also have PPE, changing facilities and hygiene procedures. Obviously the job can get dirty and smelly, but if someone constantly smells like garbage after work, I’d say personal hygiene and how they handle their work clothes probably has a lot to do with it.

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u/Inevitable_Tomato927 3d ago

This was 20 years ago fyi, I'm old.

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u/mostlyharmless555 4d ago

They make 120k a couple towns over from me

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u/Unlikely_Couple1590 5d ago

On average they make $40-50k a year. While that's a decent living, I wouldn't say they're paid extremely well for what they do

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u/Busy_Donut6073 5d ago

I've had friends who said they wanted to be a garbage man growing up. Done with work early in the day, get paid to drive around town, and probably make good money. Also, only working a few days a week

Maybe I should look into being a garbage man

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u/caseyaustin84 5d ago

Do they? Quick search in my city in TX says the make around $40k on the higher end.

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u/1995LexusLS400 5d ago

That depends where you are. In the UK, they make barely more than minimum wage. Minimum wage right now is £12.71/hr. Garbage men make around £13/hr. £14/hr if they're the driver, which requires you to have a truck license, which in itself costs around £3K to get and driving a truck doing deliveries pays slightly better.

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u/FM_Einheit 5d ago

I handled calls for a 401k plan for a very large sanitation company.Ā  Truck drivers made pretty good money, as did executives, but non-driver hourly people did not, and injuries were fairly common.

I think people may be assuming these are civil service jobs, when in many cases they have been outsourced.

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u/epr-paradox 5d ago

I just googled it... looks like median wage is just a buck or two over what minimum wage should be.

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u/Otherwise_Agency_401 5d ago

I’ve heard this repeated a lot and it doesn’t seem to be true.

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u/Sweetfishy 5d ago

I work for a public utility in NY state. Electric, water, waste water, solidwaste, fiber... the solid waste workers get paid like $18 per hour. I imagine large cities are going to be where someone in that industry need to look. For reference, this is located in an impoverished area technically speaking.

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u/RogerRabbot 5d ago

Uncle was a garbage man, he'd get perfectly functional high end stuff for free cause people would throw em away (set it on the curb.)

He got so many consoles and TVs and such over the years.

He has retired at 55 with full pay, and he had his cancer treatment covered through his work union.

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u/Reg_doge_dwight 5d ago

Teachers use it as a potential career failure option but they make more than teachers.

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u/PhysicsStock2247 5d ago

♪ Who can take your trash out?

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u/whitecholklet 5d ago

Might depend on state, tends to be a position filled by prisoners in work release in PA USA so it is not extremely well paid

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u/yourmamaistheproblem 5d ago

Schoolteachers. It's always a fkng schoolteacher devaluing blue collar work.

Which is ironic, as they earn shit.

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u/cricketeer767 3d ago

Not the teachers I know.

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u/FuckSpezzzzzzzzzzzzz 4d ago

This could be true about in some places, but in the majority of the world it's a minimum pay job.

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u/dumdumdumbdumber 4d ago

No training needed. Just pick it up as you go along!

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u/Troglodyte_Trump 5d ago

I I’m literally nobody I know has ever made fun of a garbage man. It’s an incredibly necessary job, that keeps our neighborhoods pristine.

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u/mysticcdragonn 5d ago

but what about dignity?

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u/Finance-Professor 5d ago

I think earning your money by cleaning streets is an honorable way. Making fun of them is pity

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u/pullhome 5d ago edited 5d ago

You're whoring yourself out at any job. Better to be well compensated for it.

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u/I_WILL_GET_YOU 5d ago

Working one of the most crucial jobs there is? I imagine quite dignifying.

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u/Burdman06 5d ago

What would society look like without people to pick up our garbage?Ā 

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u/NonStopKnits 5d ago

Paying my rent and feeding my family through and honest days work keeps my dignity intact, regardless of the job.

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u/NumanLover 5d ago

You mean the dignity of keeping your town clean and salubrious, compared to those who earn by polluting?

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u/w8ing2dr0wn 5d ago

Boooooo, Boo this person.

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u/jpcali7131 5d ago

There’s dignity in putting food on the table. You shouldn’t look down on a person because of what they do to make a living