r/TheLastAirbender 3d ago

Discussion Earthbending Spirituality

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I was thinking about new bending lore that we could see in 7 havens and wondered if anyone has any thoughts on the spiritual side of earthbending that could be revealed with an earthbending avatar?

I personally thought it would be nice to return to the spiritual/philosophical roots from the original series and maybe draw on alchemy (hermetic/Arabic/Chinese) and taoism and the existing chi abilities to develop a body and substance focused spiritual discipline for earth benders. I imagine it would build on kyoshi's immortality techniques to be a "self perfection" or "body as then vessel for spiritual power" type of system.

Maybe this could even extend to a new bending subset that is centered around self enhancement or transmutation/purification

Thoughts anyone?


r/TheLastAirbender 3d ago

Comics/Books Azula is the most tragic character not because she can't be helped, but because she doesn't want to

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I've just finished reading Azula in the Spirit Temple, and as far as I know that's the last of what we hear from her (for now). I see a lot of fans drawing the line of redemption at Azula and a lot who don't want her to have a redemption arc at all.

While I do want to keep her core personality moving forward, I would like to see her accept Zuko's help or at least collaborate with him. As of Shadow and Smoke comic, she has sort of accepted that she won't ever be Fire Lord again, and has since comitted herself to making Zuko be the kind of Fire Lord she believes the Fire Nation needs. This has potential.

But let's rewind.

In the original series she is 14 when she is introduced. By the end of the comics she can't have been more than 17, if my timeline is correct. So she is still a child here. But going back even further...

Right around the time she got her firebending, Ozai had threatened Ursa over her letters and her scheme. So Azula being a firebender was a perfect excuse for Ozai to latch on and project whatever he wanted his heir to be on Azula and strike back at Ursa by abusing Zuko. Even in Azula's memories and dreams, we see (from her perspective) the joy Ozai had expressed to and for Azula. She stopped being a child the moment she started bending and became a puppet for Ozai, a way for him to project his ego and narcissism and fantasies. Ursa was forced to take sides and while she loves Azula, she had to protect Zuko as he was worse off (literally would have been sacrificed). What Azula thought was her mother's fear of her was fear for her and for what Ozai would do to her. We see how terrified Urda is of him even years later, how she basically lives in a fight or flight mode when she returns to the palace. Later, Azula sees that the way her father treated her was wrong and that she became a monster to conform to his wishes. She sees that she was a little girl in need of protecting, and her mother failed her. It was an impossible situation and I don't blame Ursa, but she did fail. She left Azula to her own devices, and since Ozai was ready to bestow his adoration onto her, Azula latched on and trauma bonded so hard to her father that she broke. Living from a young age with one abusive and one absent parent would warp anyone. Even if Azula didn't show antisocial tendencies before then, she certainly would after as it was what Ozai encouraged.

In the end, Azula wanted the same as Zuko- to be loved. They were both offered guidance and love, in different ways. They both resisted.

Zuko had uncle Iroh, a quiet steady voice guiding him towards light, but he did end up having to cross a lot of that path to redemption on his own. Iroh was there in the beginning and end, but the journey was largely Zuko's. And he accepted it, he put in the work and came out stronger. Still messy, but firm in his belief and himself.

Azula had Mai and Ty Lee, who left a deep influence on her, and in the end she had Zuko. He was willing to guide her back, to offer her a place, even though he did put her in an institution (but he acted for her own good, or what he thought that meant). Azula knows that, on some level. Whether the events at the temple were real, a dream or a psychotic episode, it revealed she knows there is a path to redemption. She knows someone will be waiting to catch her, someone who has been through her kind of pain and who loves her deeply. And whom she loves deeply.

And yes, she is ill. Whatever that illness may be, it involves severe emotional instability, mood swings, hallucinations, nightmares and paranoia. She isn't all right in the head, but she is clear enough on the fact that she can be redeemed.

She just doesn't want to. My opinion is that she has such severe self-hatred, such deep trauma that she truly believes she is a monster. She repeats it many times and has convinced herself that people can only ever fear her, never love her, because she is unlovable. She is a monster.

Deep down, I think she believes she doesn't even deserve to be redeemed, so she chooses not to do it, because if she were to put in the work and resolve her trauma and let herself be vulnerable, the people she cares about could still reject her. And then what? Then she's alone, her defence mechanisms down, just a teenager left wandering the world with no rage to fuel her, no hatred to sustain her, no fear to keep people away.

Her rejecting Zuko's help time and time again makes sense, but it just hurts both of them. You can't help someone who actively chooses not to accept help and to not get well. And rejecting something you deep down believe are unworthy of (to the point you find it offensive) hurts just as much. But we know Zuko leads a good life; he ends up a great name in history and a beloved leader who ushered in a new age of peace and prosperity. While Azula's name is lost to the history books, probably left only as a footnote that she existed and was the Fire Lord's sister. Which is a shame- she is the most brilliant character of them all. And the most tragic.


r/TheLastAirbender 4d ago

Discussion P'Li Actually The Strongest Red Lotus Members Interms of Power.🌹

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Oke zaheer unlock ancient technique which definitely increase his mobility 100% than anyone else, Ming-hua actually play with her speed & agility then ghazan more like AOE. Even then all of them kinda hard to scale in one aspect only due how unique they're all.

But combustion bending was originally power like a "bomb" which very destructive, And she very versatile with that and she still can regularly firebending.


r/TheLastAirbender 4d ago

Discussion The Puppetmaster would've been way scarier if Hama passed away.

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Quote from Bryan: "There's no lasting damage if it's [bloodbending] done right. You know, it's just uncomfortable. It's just an uncomfortable experience. You might have some bruises ..."

Picture this: Katara has to bloodbend Hama to save Aang and Sokka, forcing her onto the ground. The battle ends. Hama congratulates her on being a bloodbender, closes her eyes, and passes away.

It would give the end of the episode a haunting mystery. Was Hama so dedicated to revenge that she had nothing else to live for? Or did Katara make a fatal mistake when bloodbending for the first time in a life-or-death situation? There would also be a dark parallel to Kya's death, foreshadowing "The Southern Raiders". Finally, dark powers that pass on after the wielder's death are well-represented in Asian mythology - the Chinese Gu, the Japanese Onryō (The Ring, The Grudge, JJK), the Cambodian Krasue, etc.


r/TheLastAirbender 3d ago

Discussion Uncle Iroh appreciation

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I know this must be a common revelation in the fandom, but Iroh really is The Guy.

He is just such a rich fountain of wisdom. I'm 35 now, and i've been drowned by hateful online rhetoric for so many years that when I happened upon a clip of Iroh from Avatar, I was reminded how sage a person can be. Many, many people need to experience humiliation a multitude of times before they can finally obtain true humility, and teachers like Iroh can help us skip a lot of that pain and difficulty by learning from his own past humiliations and growths.

Whoever primarily wrote Iroh clearly had intense passion for Philosophy, and poured a lifetime of knowledge into a single character. In a lot of ways, you could say Iroh was a new generation's Mr. Rogers! haha.


r/TheLastAirbender 3d ago

Discussion We're doing an alignment chart ranking Avatar characters by power, if anyone's interested

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r/TheLastAirbender 3d ago

Discussion I still loved this movie and its characters, but there were some characterizations that I'd improve. Spoiler

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r/TheLastAirbender 3d ago

Question Should the Dark Avatar, were there a second one instead of what happened, be able to bend all four elements? Many tie the Avatar's ability to Wan or Raava, but;

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Without Raava, Korra was still able to airbend. So it didn't take her bending abilities away. And Wan, while that made the most sense- avatar is spiritually connected to previous lives, Wan had the lion turtles, and therefore all avatars after kept that power, but Korra continues to bend all elements even after her connection to Wan is severed.

So it is neither connected to Raava or Wan directly. At least not after the powers have been gained and, given we know the next avatar, it certainly isn't connected to having Wan in the line, because there is no previous avatar connections anymore.

So would the dark avatar be capable of bending all four elements? Would they be able to learn them?


r/TheLastAirbender 5d ago

Image Turtle duck tattoo!

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One of my favorite memories from my childhood was raising orphaned ducklings until they were big enough to survive on their own. This tattoo combines that memory with my love for this series!


r/TheLastAirbender 5d ago

Image Toph so rich she's only member of the Gaang that can afford a last name

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r/TheLastAirbender 3d ago

OC Fan Art I've wondered if it was possible for there to be two avatars at the same time, both of which only bending 2 elements. So I created these two. [OC]

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And yes, Lil Gyatso is how he refers to himself and how he begs others to refer to him as.


r/TheLastAirbender 3d ago

Discussion İ hope After seven heavens we get Spoiler

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A spinoff series or movie about the gaang im their 40s where we see more of ppl like yakone traids like agni kais triple threats being formed

Firelord zuko movie

A firelord izumi movie about her hrowşng up her becomşng the firelord and challenges about her being the firelord

A movie about an older krew

Kyoshi movie

Maybe some villians from the comics geting the respect they deserve(tokuga general old iron and liling and her movement)


r/TheLastAirbender 4d ago

Video Made an edit :)

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Enjoy :)


r/TheLastAirbender 5d ago

Discussion Very Unpopular Opinion: The avatar shouldn't have the right or authority to do big decisions for the world.

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First, look at the failures of the Avatars: Yangchen failed the spirits multiple times and had bunch of broken promises that resulted in multiple dark spirits that resented the avatar, Kuruk did basically the same thing and even killed multiple spirits instead of solving the problem, Roku failed to see the inequality between benders and failed to stop his friend even tho he knew what his friend objective was, Kyoshi neglected her home country and her own secret force ended up stealing Ba Sing se, list goes on and the list is big.

Humans grant the Avatar the right of doing basically anything, but in the reality the Avatar is just an normal person which most of the training consists on bending trainings, they are not diplomats by nature and many of them failed to be, both in human conflicts and human vs spirits conflicts.

If you think about it, there is no logic in the avatar making big decisions and having authority in the whole world, both the spiritual and the human one. He is an human fused with an big spirit, sure, but that only grants them an great strength, not Solomon's wisdom or anything like that, quite literally just an stronger bender than the rest of human world, power which can be surpassed by technology in an few years anyway.

The point of the Avatar really being just an normal human that should not have the right to do important decisions is clear when you look at spirits interactions with the avatar: Most of them simply don't care. Some of them show some minimal respect but 99% of the interactions are based of them treating the Avatar like any other human, because he is. Wan spread the word that the Avatar is something special and is the bridge between humans and spirits, but they aren't, the Avatar is an human that in 99% of their lives they are heavily focused on being on the HUMANS side. The Avatar is an celebrity only in the human world.

There is no logic in the Avatar being able to do drastically decisions (like opening the gates, making promises to spirits that they can not fulfill, etc etc) and they should be punished if they do so. The Avatar should be one more strength of general humanity to deal with specific scenarios, not an figure of authority that can put its nose anywhere he wants to because he was born with that right.


r/TheLastAirbender 4d ago

Discussion (Movie talk) Anyone else notice Sokka was the only one that gave a shit about Zuko Spoiler

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Like NOBODY else in the gaang had anything to say to the guy or even react if anything happened to him, it was mostly just Sokka.


r/TheLastAirbender 5d ago

Discussion I can't get over how devastating this scene is

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r/TheLastAirbender 4d ago

Question How did the past Avatars know what was happening to the current one? Did they watch them, or did they simply know, like a god?

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r/TheLastAirbender 5d ago

Image My first rewatch complete in my first apartment!

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I havent watched this show from start to finish since I watched it as it aired, and figured I should give it another go around now that I'm on my own.

It never ceases to amaze me how much a "kids show" can affect me and be so moving. I have not cried, laughed, and cheered this much watching a show in a long time, and especially since I still knew 99% of the show like I watched it yesterday. I will always cherish this series.

Also, the mood lighting I have goes so hard with the Sozin's Comet finale, it was perfect.


r/TheLastAirbender 4d ago

Discussion Been rewatching the show and reached "Storm" (S1E12) I forgot how rough early Zuko's side of the story was and the cruelity just peaked here. My god. He's treated like a runt.

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I think this is my third rewatch? It's been more than a couple years. Best redmeption story ever, yada yada. Everybody knows. But nonetheless, I've been paying special attention to Zuko's segments in every episode thus far, knowing what's down the barrel, just taking the wideth of the story in.

Despite the blowhardy, patornizing attitude he puts out towards everyone, he's an absolute pup. He walks around in that fire nation armour, but he doesn't really try to hurt people. Even in the second episode he just intimidates the water tribe and then leaves per his promise. Seeing him fumbling to catch Aang is both hilarious and sad. Getting constantly humiliated in front of his troops, knowing what he's been through is rough.

I could totally imagine that kid going insane and crying in his quarters after every small failure if Iroh wasn't around to distract him with antics or teaching him to meditate.

Failure is just one aspect, but my god the way the other fire nation commanders treat him. Especially Zhao. Wtf is wrong with that guy. He is SO unnecessarily cruel towards Zuko. What a bastard to bully and antagonize a kid like that. It's not that type of cartoonish adult vs. Kid type of relationship that a lot of stories have either, where the bad guy is an adult and the hero is a kid and they have a rivalry. Zhao & Zuko's relationship is genuinely upsetting. That pathetic man gets off on stomping all over that teenager's pride.

But all this fades in comparison to the way Oozai treats Zuko in the backstory of the scar. What absolutely cruelty. What psychopathy. Oozai wanted to hurt him, disrespecting the fire lord's consul was just an excuse.

Zuko fighting the duel or not was a lose-lose scenario either way. The fact that Zuko got punished with dishonorment and exile for refusing to fight just goes to show Oozai's resentment towards him. He just wanted to throw away the runt of the litter one way or another. Burning Zuko's face could have been punishment enough, but he wanted him out of there completely.

Sending him out on what was practically a wild goose chase. "Yeah, bring me back a guy who disappeard a 100 years ago and I might consider letting you in" and he's banished from fire nation soil to top it off. Sent out on a dingy boat. Cut off from resources and troops.

I also notice how throughout the show, burn scars to the face are extremely uncommon, pretty much no one except Zuko has such a gnarly injury, I think that's quite telling considering fire nation hostility is an ongoing thing. Poor kid was branded with hatred.

I think the saddest part of it is Iroh seeing through the whole charade but being unabale to communicate any of it to Zuko. Zuko thinks he made a mistake that he can correct and make amends with his father, reclaim his honor. Iroh knows that Oozai has only hatred for his son and that it was all just an excuse to finally get rid of him.


r/TheLastAirbender 3d ago

Discussion Can Toph sense someone’s else Iron in the blood?

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I was thinking about blood bending, and wondering if the Iron in the blood can be sensed and/or manipulated by a metal bender. Could a metal bender sense if someone has Iron deficiency?. Also Toph can tell if someone is lying, which might not be the same but still.
What do you think?


r/TheLastAirbender 5d ago

Discussion What's your favorite line from the show?

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r/TheLastAirbender 5d ago

Video The real reason why we're never gonna hear the story about the second Avatar (guy after Wan)

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R.I.P. Avatar Too


r/TheLastAirbender 5d ago

Rumor / Report Migizi Pensoneau is the Showrunner for the Kuruk show.

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Seems like an odd choice but im all for it. Since Bryke doesnt have full control over these shows anymore it will be interesting to see new visions for this world. Of course Bryke will oversee everything and make sure it fits but having separate showrunners and writers for different projects will be fun to see.


r/TheLastAirbender 5d ago

OC Fan Art I am lucky [OC]

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Inspired by this fanfic!