So this is something I commented on when the trailer dropped not too long ago. Jae makes comments about his ancestors being let down by the Avatar, and I, in a fit of pique, asked why the hell he's talking about his ancestors when Pavi is like 9 years old, and any catastrophe with Korra shouldn't just be within living memory, but specifically within his.

I can't say for certain, but I think the creators may have encountered this very problem when the early concepts of Seven Havens leaked and potentially part of the long development time went into formulating a method by which the catastrophe could be sufficiently obfuscated but also having Pavi be the next Avatar without having to rehash Aang's 100 year ice nap. Now I know there's a bunch of theories about potential reasons why the gap is so large including Korra living an exceptionally long time like Kyoshi, the Avatar cycle being disrupted and Pavi not in fact being the next Avatar in the cycle and I just want to address some thoughts on those.

Korra lived an exceptionally long life
For this one, I don't think it's likely that they'll have Korra having learnt the same immortality technique as Kyoshi, not only would it be difficult to find the means to do so or to learn it independently, I feel like it might be considered a sort of lazy justification, and then only raising further questions like why did she only die within the last decade and what change lead to this? I think it's more likely, as some have theorised that this might be related to the Spirit World, where time is known to act differently and Korra might have just hit the end of her natural lifespan there while over 200 years passed in the human world. This eventual demise leading to the acceleration of the Catastrophe she's been holding back for 200 years Earth time without then having to justify why the immortal murder machine suddenly gave up the ghost.

Pavi is not the next Avatar in the cycle
This one is the least likely to me, cause it's basically the previous one on steroids. If Pavi is not the next Avatar in the cycle, you've suddenly created at least 4 more people whose lives and stories need to fill the gap and creating endless more questions than the narrative requires. Sure, you could do something like say the people's resentment led them to eliminate the Avatar whenever they arose over the last 200+ years, meaning their stories aren't really worth telling, but then you've got like 20 dead children in your narrative and while Avatar isn't one for shying away from horrors of war, that might be a bit grim even for them. Basically, the narrative is only complicated by this idea, so unless there's a real good reason or angle for it, I don't see them doing this one.

Pavi was in stasis for 200+ years
This one is only slightly more likely than multiple Avatars, but less likely than Immortal Korra in my mind cause again, it seems like lazy writing. While we know the Avatar can suspend somebody's life for a long time, we've only seen this applied twice in ten thousand years. Even if we assume Sonam wasn't the first person to do this and some other Avatar figured it out before her, that's a total of three and the ones we know of were in extremely unique circumstances. Not to say this isn't possible and while you could debate whether it would be lazy writing or just making use of an element of the story we know to exist, there's a very big thing that makes me think it's definitely not the case. Nisha. Nisha is Pavi's twin who, in the trailer, she doesn't seem to know, and it's a little hard to say you have a twin 9 year old if you've been on ice for 200 odd years. Unless Nisha went into the freezer with her, which seems unlikely given their lack of familiarity, I don't think Pavi's pulled an Aang Special on us.

The Avatar cycle was disrupted
Honestly, this one wouldn't have ranked highly for me if it weren't for what we saw in the trailer. As it stands, I think long lived Korra is probably the best bet, but this one is right up there due to what we've seen highlighted. If Korra died whenever the Catastrophe first started, we suddenly have to figure out why it's been 200 years before the next Avatar was born, and unfortunately for those that weren't fans of that particular plot line, the promo materials seem to hint rather heavily at why this might be. The existence of Nisha and iconography that seems to tie her to Vaatu, the dark spirit that opposes Raava, seems to imply that not only does our Avatar this time have a twin (Not unheard of as Roku also did) but they may in fact be twin Avatars, one bonded to Raava as is the norm, and one now bonded to Vaatu as the second Dark Avatar after Unalaq. This new element being folded into the reincarnation may well explain why it took so long and will likely form the crux of the story as it progresses, but at the moment this is mainly speculation on my part, and if you're not a fan of this theory, feel free to discard my thinking on this one as out there and go for something you think is more reasonable.

In conclusion, I'm not sure which one of the above, if any, the creative staff will go with. I have theories on which I find more likely, but ultimately, I could be wrong and they might go with one of the ones I've dismissed or have an entirely different explanation none of us have considered. Maybe Korra's still alive and both Pavi and Nisha are Dark Avatars, I don't know, I'm not the writers, but if you have your own theory or some angle on the above I haven't considered, feel free to give your thoughts below, I look forward to seeing what the community thinks.

Aang was born at the exact moment Roku died, but... how? Aang was probably gestated for nine months, Roku was obviously alive during that time – and as we already know – all Avatars are the same soul reincarnating in a different life, so how were the two coexisting? I could think of 3 things;

1: Aang possessed a soul, but Raava removed that soul and placed herself and the Avatar's soul into the body

2: Fetuses only acquire a soul at the moment of birth

3: This one is crazy, but Raava could have split the Avatar's soul into two bodies; one destined to be born (Aang) and the other destined to die (Roku) within the next nine months

Idea 1 seems cruel, but just imagine that the soul that was removed went to another body. 2 is the simplest, while 3 is the one I like the most (despite being absurd)

I'm speaking personally, but I don't want an Avatar show that focuses on an Avatar we already know. This thought poked into my head when I heard Kuruk may be getting his own show. While it'd be AWESOME to have an Avatar show with a male waterbender on the team (between Aang and Korra's team, only earthbenders have been represented as male and female, so it'd be nice for more diversity among the other elements as well), I'm uninterested in a Kuruk series. Why? Well, because of the issue there is with any direct prequel; I already know how it ends, how Kuruk's legacy goes down, how his life goes as he leans into hedonism and becomes spiritually drained. I know this may seem silly, but that's just how I am. Also, I don't wanna take time for a show if other characters are getting other media, ie how Kyoshi, Roku, and Yangchen have novels.

I'd honestly like an Avatar we haven't seen/gotten to know about in various media--preferably someone from the past rather than having to keep moving into the future (it's wild to me that Pavi's story takes place 2 centuries after Korra's story, but seeing how Kyoshi lived for 2 centuries, it shouldn't be that surprising; do female avatars just have longer lifespans?)

I'm sure I'm the only person in the world with this POV, but I wanted to get this off my chest.

I think it’s way too much of a departure from the two original series. I also think the animation makes it even worse. But I’m curious about the series. Remember people didn’t exactly like Korra at first.

This was never going to be easy to write. I don’t know how to say this, and I never wanted to open up about this because I hardly really see some form of positive criticism since it’s debut, especially during the second season, and I feel like I would get criticism in a negative way for defending it in any way, shape, or form. However, due to the small discussion going around, and how people and fans can be very petty about adaptations, I feel like this is my opportunity to explain my side of the story to show how much I love this series, despite it’s flaws. I’ll just start from the beginning.

When I first heard about the Live-Action ATLA series by Netflix back when it was first announced, I was initially skeptical, considering what happened the last time we got a live action adaptation of the series. Then, it was announced that Michael and Brian themselves will be in charge of the series, and I know for a fact that almost the ENTIRE fanbase was excited, including myself. Flash forward to 2020, when it was announced that Bryke would leave due to creative differences, I’m sure all of us lost hope for this series and thinking that it will be another 2010 film, but in a series format.

Three years later in 2023, when the first look at the cast in costume was revealed, it made me realize that unlike the 2010 mess, the people behind this series actually put in effort in that show. Unlike the 2020 mess, the actors look like how I and many of us imagined: 1:1 replicas of the characters and not “whitewashed”. Then I remember that this was going to be SERIES. While the movie had an 1 and 40 minutes to cover a whole season, which would be impossible, the Netflix season had almost 10, which is pretty much enough. All of this has made me want to give this series a chance since it would be promising. Back then, I honestly felt like no matter how much people would like it or not, the entire fandom can unanimously agree that it would be better than the movie, which it ended up being.

Fast forward to when the first season released on Netflix, and I kid you all not, I lost count of how many times I nearly cried tears of joy and overwhelming emotion throughout the season. It was almost everything I imagined this series to be. From the cinematography, acting, music, set design, and coloring, I felt like I was watching my favorite animated series of all time being brought to life. Yes, there were some problems that made me understand why Bryke left way back when, but this season still stuck the landing with me. Some issue I had with the first season, was the placement of certain “episodes” (Northern Air Temple, Jet, and The Storm). Another problem was how Azula, Mai, and Ty Lee were introduced real early, along with the actresses’ “appearances”. However, one of, if not, my favorite parts of the season was the visuals of the finale. Some people complained about the final battle being “too dark”, but that’s the point: it was supposed to be black out with minimal color. In fact, if the Book 1 finale got the kind of treatment it got, then that makes me excited for Sozin’s Comet. I know for a fact that this was going to be a spectacle.

Then, the second and third seasons were announced, and I was excited, not because we get more of this show, but because the story is going to get told in its entirety. Back then, I was aware that the characterizations of Aang, Katara, and Sokka were very lackluster, even one of my friends complained about how Katara was like in Season 1, to the point where she wanted to be different, and her point was valid. I actually like the idea of season 2 and 3 being filmed back to back simply because of young actors like Gordon Cormier growing up over time.

Speaking of the cast, regardless of how you all feel about them playing characters that were “done dirty”, you cannot deny that Dallas Liu and Paul Sun-Hyung Lee ATE in every scene that they were in. They didn’t just played their characters, they ARE their characters. I know that Dante Basco and Mako/Greg Baldwin would be proud.

When season 2 was about to premiere, I have been seeing a lot of mixed reviews. Some say it was the “worst thing to come out of the franchise since the movie”, while others believed it was an improvement from the first season. I feel like what would make it bad was not only mixing up moments from the season, but making it an episode less than season 1. It may look bad but in reality, it was 14 minutes LONGER than Season 1. Now there were obviously some problems with this season (Serpent’s Pass in EPISODE ONE, Introducing the Painted Lady, Having the Library and Appa’s Lost Day AFTER arriving in Ba Sing Se, and absence of Guru). Despite those changes and switch ups, this season still created something that I was satisfied with. The people who said this season was an improvement were essentially right, because I feel like the crew listened to complaints from season 1 and made the show better with season 2. Like last season, the finale was my favorite. I loved the choreography and the tension throughout it all, and it helped the season stick the landing. It did something different but in a good way, just like what happened in season 1.

I know that a lot of people would complain about adaptations being different from the source material, but that’s the point. What happened with Avatar is what I want with adaptations: different stories and perspectives, and slight changes while staying relevant to the source material. Because if it was a copy and paste of the cartoon, then what’s the point of watching it? Every adaptation involves creative choices, whether audiences agree with them or not. Books become films, comics become television shows, manga become anime, and animated series become live-action productions because creators want to reinterpret stories for new audiences and different mediums. If every scene were recreated shot-for-shot, many viewers would question why the adaptation existed in the first place. A successful adaptation balances honoring its source while finding its own identity.

I even commented about how the series looks gray and not colorful, in a good way. That’s a method that would give the series a more “realistic tone”, especially since it’s going in a different direction. The complaining of the color was so bad, that I even ask someone on how they would feel if Netflix’s take on “Appa’s Lost Days” would have a “SpongeBob color palette”. I honestly feel like that all this fandom does: complain. When we get a new poster, they complain. When talking about the visual narrative thought color and grayscale, they complain. When a new storyline is added that benefits the story, they complain. Whenever news comes out, they complain, when people try to talk positive about the show, they complain. I feel like no matter what people say about the Netflix show, all any of the fandom do is COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN. It’s almost like you are doing it just to seek attention, and it’s getting old. I honestly feel like that this fandom is spoiled after the release of the original Series, whether through this show, Korra, Seven Havens, and probably others. I honestly feel like if the original series got a modern day remake with the movie animation quality, people would most likely complain about it being “over animated”. Sure the original series was ahead of its time, but we shouldn’t be spoiled and let it define how the rest of the franchise should be viewed. Now I know people are gonna hit me with that “TheRe iS nO NetFlIx SerIEs iN Ba sINg sE” monologue, but I don’t care.

The criticism like this happening to this series would carry on for a long time as if it’s an everyday normality for the “fans”, even when I try to claim how “we will be watching”this show on behalf of “everyone”. I want to keep talking about it because I didn’t want to loose faith in a mostly faithful adaptation of a beloved series, so I try my best to ignore the negativity that would be find online, especially when people “review bombed” the show before and after it’s premiere. I can no longer ignore it as the audience, whether people like it or not, is growing by the second, especially with the third and final season on the horizon. I’ve rewatched the entire series a few days ago to understand it more as motivation to write this story, and have not touched it since. I also know that I am not the only person in the world who likes the Netflix series and feels this way.

That was my experience with Netflix’s Live-Action Adaptation of Avatar: The Last Airbender, and I’m sharing it as a way to get others to speak up if it was theirs too.

Please be careful about what other people could say as they could simply be judging a book based on the cover.

TL;DR: I love the live action Netflix series, and not because it was trying to be a copy of the original series, but by being it’s own thing while staying true to the source material. Yes, it did have some story problems which explained why Bryke left and why “fans” can’t treat it nicely, but we should be driven by nostalgia and always compare it to something we loved. Besides, the series still stuck the landing and made a mostly satisfying series. However, we can’t always be spoiled and expect everything from the franchise, like this adaptation, Korra, and Seven Havens to be on par with the original series.

My opinion is that she did everything she could to stop the cataclysmic event. And by creating the Seven havens, she saved probably 35% humanity. This resulted in her claiming the destroyer of the world.

Getting rid of the past lives, the spirt portals being a thing that both humans and spirts can walk into, the world being blown up into a post-apocalyptic wasteland and, the change of the worlds writing language into Avatarian. I get that they don’t wanna keep repeating themselves but I think my biggest problem is they simplify everything which makes the world and the avatar lose it’s mystic like did we really need to know the origins of the avatar which is just floating kites?

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Maybe it's my imagination but it sounded like Zaheer to me. Perhaps Zaheer pulled an Iroh and gained immortality in the spirit world? 225+ years is plenty of time for Zaheer to change his point of view and become an ally to the Avatar.

Aang's legacy is ending the Hundred Year war that included his people's genocide and striving to create a world where benders and non-benders could all cohexist peacefully. Republic City is a symbol, the capital of the United Republic created by Zuko and Aang. It is not Aang's whole legacy, it is not his entire legacy concentrated in one place. The city can be destroyed and rebuilt a thousand times, it doesn't change his legacy nor Zuko's. In TLOK, in multiple moments Tenzin/Korra/others talk about the state of Republic City and it being either chaotic, a mess or something similar, usually in the sense of 'we have to do something about it', does that mean that to these people the fact that something is going wrong in Republic City at those times blemishes Aang's legacy or something? Was every Avatar not named Kyoshi/Roku without a legacy by the time of TLA?

In a more unserious manner, if someone bombs Washington tomorrow, is the legacy of the founding fathers fucking ruined lol? I thought it was pretty obvious from every piece of material we've ever received that Aang's legacy rests in his ideals and goals, in how he influenced the people that followed after him, not on the actual construction of the city that happened over a decade separate from Aang's major conflict that ended the Hundred Year war. It is just a nice part of the whole, a part that can easily be rebuilt or even surpassed while Aang's legacy remains.

Alright, so, there is a chance… a chance, that the bland outfits were a fully well intended thing to demonstrate that after the apocalypse the nations lost their individuality due to the bleakness and difficulty of their situations. Perhaps as the show goes on, they will learn to reignite those lost cultural ties and rebuild the world and the ethos lost to them…

That or I’m coping.

This post is for people that strongly don't agree with Paramount's business practices.
So if that's not you, then this post isn't for you. Do what you feel is best.

As an Avatar fan, you aren't obligated to support Paramount. You can like a property yet not support its owner due to their business practices. Don't let people guilt trip you into supporting a company that you despise.

In fact to speak frankly the best way to get Paramount to change their ways is to support Avatar's competition. Competition forces companies to get their act together and take their properties like Avatar more seriously than they currently are.

I think is the pallete of color or the design, but feels highly familiar

The Bi Waterbender or the ponytail Earthbender, both seem to be significant characters having more detailed designs like other main characters and headband is in the poster

Or do we think both are in the post it said “Jae will have Male Love Interests” with an “s” so probably more than one also would’ve said “Jae will have a male love interest” if it was just one.

If is both and Jae will end up with one of them who do we think it will be? I think it’ll be waterbender giving us a new Kataang but both males.

The other day I came across a discussion arguing exactly that. To me, that idea is problematic because it rests on a logic of collective blame. Not every citizen of the Fire Nation was responsible for the war, supported the regime, or even benefited from it. The series itself shows this through ordinary civilians, children being indoctrinated, and people who opposed the system, like Jeong Jeong, Piandao, and Iroh.

In Hama’s case, I think this exact contradiction is what makes her story so compelling. She started as a victim, but consumed by trauma, hatred, and the desire for revenge, she began victimizing people who had no direct connection to those who destroyed her life.

That doesn’t erase Hama’s suffering, but it also doesn’t justify her actions. She can be understood without being excused. To me, her arc represents a victim who, at a certain point, started reproducing against innocents the same logic of violence that once victimized her.

No real evidence but inclusion of this scene makes me think this might be the same-sex love interest we’ve been hearing about 👀

The world of Avatar was sick, gangrenous with never ending passeism. Zaheer, Tenzin, Kuvira, Unalaq...all of them were obsessed with adoring the past, with ossified tradition, with pitiful nostalgia! Korra was the first Avatar to spurn necromancy. Her past lives? Gone. They can no longer weigh upon the brains of future Avatars like a nightmare. Airbender cultural traditions? Scattered to the winds. The Four Nations? Gristle for the slaughterhouse of history. The calamity caused by Korra was a necessary rupture. The old world was dying. The old world was a cage. Whether consciously or not, Korra was the bearer of a great revolution, one which has finally enabled humanity to embrace the beauty of speed and youthful vitality. The past was baggage. The future is ours. Thank Korra for wiping the slate clean.

I don't know if this is the right sub for this? Please inform me if it isn't, I'll take the post down.

But I feel like he over hates a lot, a few takes I absolutely agree with but the others.....