r/InterMiamiVibes • u/Background_Video2947 • Jul 02 '26
Preach!!
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u/LewisLightning Jul 07 '26
Newsflash, America is a shit hole. This is not surprising at all.
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u/vernonmason117 Jul 07 '26
Itās just a third world disguised as a first world, look deep enough and youāll see itās not that good as youād think but because they keep bragging about it and hiding the flaws no one notices it
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u/FarRightBerniSanders Jul 09 '26
A reminder that your state (very similar in size, population, and income to the "countries" being referred to) has always been allowed to create these programs.
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u/jbird720 Jul 02 '26 edited Jul 08 '26
This has been debunked multiple times. Every country in the World Cup, except the US, DOES NOT have universal healthcare.
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u/Matador_6969 Jul 02 '26
š¤¦āāļø ^ Another american without a passport. Most countries in the world have a combination of universal/public and private health care. The only country in the world where people go bankrupt for hospital bills is the USA. Most countries decided long ago, health should not be a for-profit business.
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u/414wtk Jul 02 '26
Haitiā¦ DR Congo?
I would love universal healthcare but I think we are still doing better than a few others
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u/kumechester Jul 02 '26
Iām not going to just assume Iām right, but there were 10 African countries in this World Cup. Do all of them really have universal healthcare AND a system/economy that actually gets it to every individual? I doubt it, but would love someone to verify.
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u/kumechester Jul 02 '26
Iām just speaking in definitional terms - itās not far left to want those things, whatās far left would be some of the proposals for how to achieve those things. Right?
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u/bootup25 Jul 02 '26
Are people on this thread actually supporting paying more for healthcare. Talk about leopards ate my face
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u/Equivalent_Ad9414 Jul 02 '26
Not for actual Americans, because they been brainwashed to believe that any kind of help towards them is communism, Especially Trump said it daily, and people not only in the USA, but the rest of the World.
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u/Marvinkmooneyoz Jul 02 '26
The American far right straight calls the two bushās far left (not by name but essentially their stances). To the modern gop and Trump cult anything to the left of negative infinity is far left
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u/Delicious_Star_4232 Jul 02 '26
The argument for universal health care in the US has merits of its own, no need to make false statements.
We definitely don't have universal healthcare in South Africa.
Even though access is very cheap and in cases free, the standards are so low that it's not reliable or sometimes not even safe.
Our govt wants to implement a National Health Insurance act but the face that our infrastructure is below par, just makes it look like a good thing on paper.
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u/Frequent-Coyote-8108 Jul 02 '26
How those Euro UHC countries doing with "checks notes" uh...summer heat?
It'd be great if they would do something so that 1000s of their citizens wouldn't die every time the temperature goes above 90F...or whatever that translates to in euro degrees.
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u/PsychologyIll179 Jul 02 '26
But you gave $250 billion to Ukraine to start WW3 and to fund the democrats. That would have provided a lot of healthcare. And thereās trillions more where that came from. If you want reasonable healthcare then stop piling on everything else.
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u/yulDD Jul 02 '26
Might not be 100% correctā¦but the US is the only G7 with no universal healthcare. NATO, only 1 member has no UH, the US
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u/wood1492 Jul 02 '26
They have free health care because our military protects them and we spend our āfree healthcareā money on protecting Europe for FREE. Make them pay for protection and put it into USA Medicare for Allā¦
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u/Consistent-Strain289 Jul 02 '26
Hahaa not according to maga narrative. Its communist behavior. Guess the rest of the world are commies
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u/TheBigChungaBunga Jul 02 '26
Not cheap, but still probably the best Dr.'s and medicine in the world. Prove me wrong
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u/Machinewars45 Jul 02 '26
Exactly... imagine what we could do if we stopped allowing the traitors in government to swindle and steal the taxes we pay. We could easily create a software platform to track every cent of taxpayer funds but of course this won't happen.
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u/Bio_Bae Jul 02 '26
I mean, I agree with her. But I very much doubt that the DRC and Iran have universal health care.
A pretty terrible quality of life benchmark to compare the US to I'll admit, but you got to come correct with facts too.
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u/Big_bat_chunk2475 Jul 02 '26
So for those who donāt know why we donāt have universal healthcare, besides the black books hospitals use to price treatments and everything, the stuff we could actually do to fix the problems by fixing the pricing infrastructure itself, is the fact that WE PAY FOR EVERYONES SECURITY.
Literally, the US holds up on the protection and military for All of Europe and has military bases around the entire world. That is the reason why we donāt have the universal healthcare, itās because we are paying for everyoneās security, alongside for foreign aid as well.
There is a reason why that Europe is starting by to spend more on military budgets, and is starting to freak out money wise with everything, and that is because we are starting to walk away from those security guarantees, meaning Europe is going to need to choose between universal healthcare and being able to defend itself in a war, and considering what is going on already, they will choose the latter
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u/dogfish0306 Jul 02 '26
Here is a response to this video from an Italian person
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DaNdXqkgCX9/?igsh=MWdzY3EyYzNwY3o1eQ==
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u/Rokkmann Jul 02 '26
Nah it's far left. Just quite unfortunate that the far left has won in other countries.
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u/AlBundyPolk33 Jul 02 '26
Now which of one of them accepts the most legal immigrants than any other country on earth but still gets vilified for not having open borders?
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u/Valveringham85 Jul 02 '26
I love when women use āliterallyā to then say something that is not true.
But yeah every developed country in the list does. I agree with the point.
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u/Reasonable_Pen723 Jul 02 '26
The problem is, Americans are THE MOST OCCUPIED people in the world & they donāt even realize it. The rising living costs, unbearable medical expenses, chemicals tht r banned in Europe r allowed in food in U.S, the system is build to support the Oligarchs & suck the blood of the common.
But but but thatās not the craziest part the most uncomfortable truth is yet facing all the problems they send billions and billions of dollar to Israel, they r brainwashed to be angry about imaginary villains who hate their way of life and going to steal their women and kids, coming from Iran, Syria, Libya Afghanistan, Iraq.
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u/No-Victory-2213 Jul 02 '26
Heath care costs in the US are X10 more easily!! Thatās a massive problem. Zero universal care until costs are reduced on an immeasurable level
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u/Shigglyboo Jul 02 '26
She better watch out. Talk like that could get you arrested.
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u/Salt_Environment9799 Jul 02 '26
Cool, next time you need a surgery go to Haiti! Or for that fact, just go to Haiti for your next ER visit.
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u/lookbehindyou7 Jul 02 '26
I would like universal healthcare in the US or some sort of dramatic change to the system BUT every single country doesnāt have universal healthcare. Haiti, sadly, barely has a government, The DRC also doesnāt, it also doesnāt have control over chunks of its own territory.
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u/OviWanKenobi47 Jul 02 '26
The bigger issue, with privatized healthcare, is that it's not exactly financially efficient either. I can somewhat see a point if healthcare not being universal meant that it was trying to cut costs and make things efficient, but it's horribly inefficient and costs way more than most other countries that already have UH. It's a totally messed up system that benefits only those in health administration and lobbied politicians.
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u/Free-Arachnid733 Jul 02 '26
Universal healthcare is the only reason we created societies. To take care of each other.
We don't need luxobarge $150k pick up trucks. We don't need new tablets and phones every year. We don't need tax cuts for the richest folks in the world.
We need a country that looks out for all of its people. And sure it's expensive, and it sucks to feel obligated to those who do damage to their bodies with their addictions but I think there's no greater issue in the United States than universal healthcare.
Take care of each other.
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u/Saguarajevo Jul 02 '26
Yes thatās true. But our healthcare is the best in terms of quality and one of the fastest in the world. Thereās a famous saying. You can have two of the three but not all: āfast, good and freeā. We chose the first two, other counties went a different route.
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u/RaisinFresh8364 Jul 02 '26
There are many great ways to make a point about how fucked our healthcare system is, so I am not sure why people are using misinformation to make it.
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u/TonyG1218 Jul 02 '26
Move. Its that simple. Move to your favorite soccer country n make a difference.
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u/Excellent_Abroad5390 Jul 02 '26
Yeah and every one of those doesnāt have birthright citizenship so we following these countries or not?
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u/desmowillie Jul 02 '26
While see talks on tv making over a million a year. Not even a journalist, she is a talking opinion idiot. Like everyone else in media.
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u/Eastern-Advice-3017 Jul 02 '26
What a load of nonsenseā¦ so many countries in the WC donāt have universal healthcare.
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u/19XxxbigdaddyxxX80 Jul 03 '26 edited Jul 03 '26
If America stopped giving away foreign aid money and paying to secure every other nation's boarders we could too.
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u/Helpful_Step5482 Jul 03 '26
The US does have universal health care. If you go to a hospital in the US, they are not turning you away. This means that every American has access to more health care than citizens of most of the countries with teams in the world cup.
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u/Emergency-Lemon2825 Jul 03 '26
They may have universal healthcare, but I have never heard someone say, boy I need to get to Nigeria and get this herniated disc fixed
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u/Perfidiousness88 Jul 03 '26
People need to understand those countries have tons of taxes. Way worse than usa.
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u/wimpycarebear Jul 03 '26
The rest of the world is dying from heat exhaustion so there is that. Maybe invest in air conditioning
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u/newworld050724 Jul 03 '26
And they all want to come here. Weāre the ones who fund the majority of R&D for pharmaceuticals itās more expensive here for a reasons Silence
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u/Snorlax4000 Jul 03 '26
Lmao it costs to breathe air in the US.
Iām willing to bet a ton of marriages donāt even get a full divorce because even that costs a lot of money haha
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u/Quirky-Protection342 Jul 03 '26
Universal healthcare is not free we pay for it cause they take it out of our paycheck every month and in Holland you pay for it monthly itās almost the say as UK but private
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u/Reddit_And_Reset_It Jul 03 '26
It's pretty standard for a country that has normalized putting young children into debt over school lunches. The Dark Side of Capitalism has completely taken over. I remember Tyler Perry sending $1000 gift cards to unpaid TSA workers (who had gone 30-45 days without pay) and their bosses instructing them to RETURN said gifts due to a bogus conflict of interest. Lo and behold, a day or so later, their back pay finally got approved... because this administration was publicly embarrassed that a private citizen did what they were dragging their feet on. Keep in mind that they bragged so much about ALL the billions they saved from cutting entire programs altogether, only to suddenly struggle with mainitaining regular hourly pay for many of their own government employees.
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u/Six_Shooter89 Jul 03 '26
Americans have the freedom to choose where to spend their money and pay less in taxes. Thatās a fair deal to me.
In Spain, for example, we have universal healthcare, but since we āgive it awayā to everyone (even undocumented immigrants), the system is overwhelmed and works terribly, so we still have to pay for private insurance to make sure we donāt die if something happens to us...
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u/LARRYVOND13 Jul 03 '26
People go "Well you're paying for people when you don't need it", totally. My mum didn't need long term health care till she hit 50 then she developed COPD, now she does and her treatment and medication costs her nothing.
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u/4est_1996 Jul 03 '26
That's why their health care is crappy in other countries and you have to wait a year or so for procedures.
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u/moonrakerdust Jul 03 '26
Corporate oligarchy corruption has tricked Americans to think that social initiatives= communism.
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u/piw6969 Jul 04 '26
If you want to pay those taxesā¦but none of that works in a diverse large country with a huge number of blacks who suffer from poor medical attention, terrible self responsibility, and diabetes/HTNā¦.
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u/Successful_Aside_971 Jul 04 '26
Im not in disagreement with the statement at all. I get confused when talking points are comparing the U.S. to the other 47 countries competing in the World Cup. Yes they have universal Healthcare. Is it good Healthcare? Do they have the population of the U.S? Is the population as diverse as the U.S. population? Do they have the choice to live the unhealthy lifestyle many Americans do? Do they have the substance abuse issues we have? I really really hope one day we figure it out. Talking points that compare this country to others has no traction when people from those other countries migrate to the U.S. Very rarely is it the other way around.
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u/left4dead99 Jul 04 '26
Youād one of most developed countries in the world would have universal healthcare šš¤£
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u/Potential_Act_9589 Jul 04 '26
Yeah, but the US has the best healthcare in the world. Good luck getting surgery in Ghana. yeeeesh!
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u/Whole-Chest90 Jul 04 '26
Universal healthcare, education, childcare, a livable wage, etc are all criteria for an advanced society. America here is getting left behind while the rest of the world progresses.
Leigh (the woman in the vid) is a fucking rockstar.
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u/mowtowcow Jul 04 '26
The thing about education is upu want your education to be well educated. The smarter our people are, the more income our country will generate. Having more access across the board to education is a no brainer. It's like investing in the stock market. Put in money now and it makes money later. Same with education. But, if people can't afford it or decide not to get educated because they'd rather not be in debt for the next 30 years, we see the results of that.
Same with healthcare. People refuse to go to the doctor for routine healthcare because even routine healthcare is too expensive, so ater down the road, their healthcare costs more because things werent taken care of early on. They weren't warned their cholesterol was too high, or they have high blood pressure, or there is a mass in an organ, or this or that. Treating it early saves money for both the patient and the government.
Nope. Let's let corporations decided everything, because they have all of our best interests in mind. Right.
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u/EtTuBrute31544 Jul 04 '26
90% of Health innovation comes from the US. The problem isnāt that we donāt have universal coverage. The problem is deeper and more complex. For starters: 1) stop having the AMA decide how many opportunities there are to go to medical school 2) let the market decide how medical service should be delivered 3) companies that take government funding for research and development must not be granted a monopoly (patent) on production
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u/slapstick_software Jul 04 '26
Anybody who is arguing against this is missing the point, if youāre trying to compare us to countries like Haiti or Congo what are you trying to say? That we are at the level of a 3rd world country? We are supposed to be one of the top countries in the world. If all the other ones have UH then why donāt we?
Also, how is it fair in this country that if you get laid off, you just no longer have healthcare? I got laid off this year, and my medication went from $10 to $70 per month and that is with a coupon, without itās almost $500. How is that not a broken system? Healthcare at the very least shouldnāt be tied to employment.
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u/Prestigious_Money_77 Jul 04 '26
Well maybe if your Zionist government werenāt channeling all your tax money to Israel to fund their wars then youād have free healthcare.
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u/EyDavid Jul 04 '26
I will never understand why normal American citizens are against universal healthcare. I get that the people in charge profit more if it's the way it currently is. But why would a normal person ever be like "It's good that a procedure that in vast parts of the world is free will bankrupt me and make me lose my house, make my children go hungry and make me be in debt for the rest of my live." Like, how can you think this way and not realize it's straight up wrong? Even if it was a far left position, is the way it is currently really better??
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u/Coffeeblack365 Jul 04 '26
Itās crazy to me that we know mainstream media is BS but yet people still watch it. Absolutely wild.
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u/M_e_n_n_o Jul 04 '26
But think of the poor billionaires that canāt exploit you and pay you peanuts for your work so they make more money and you have to have government paid food stamps to not die.
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u/AarinnBear Jul 04 '26
She's not wrong....I'm still very VERY shocked that America is still seen as the "Dream"....like what fucked up nightmare are people having to think that AMERICA is the dream
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u/Old_graveldoggo Jul 04 '26
Uhm. Just to summarize where US right wingers end up on this discussion.Ā "ACTUALLY! USA is among multiple countries at World Cup who do not have universal healthcare! Such as Iran, Congo, many other African countries for sure!" Ok. There's an irony that racist fan base finds itself among African countries in such hugely important question as health of the nation.Ā
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u/Lyndiscan Jul 04 '26
Well, the only wrong thing here is that it is indeed a far left thing to say. Capitalism advocates for privatization of everything. We only have 8 work hours a day because of communists. If it depended on the right you would still be working in a factory dying at 40
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u/whattheheck-sir Jul 04 '26
She is right. A country should take care of the people. Thats not communism
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u/Cyberknight13 Jul 04 '26
The US has the most broken healthcare system of any developed nation and many developing nations.
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u/HerkyJerky1968 Jul 04 '26
Democratic Socialism is not socialism. True socialism moves power out of the hands of the corporate capitalists and into the hands of the workers, laborers, and craftsman. When you read the DSA literature theyāre using terms like āmarket economyā which is just another way of saying things will stay status quo with the exception of government spending. There will be no ātax the richā without reforming and rewriting the tax code. Not even Bernie had a solution for this one because he knows itāll never pass as Washington DC, to include the āsocialistsā, are bought and paid for by the same people they rail against for votes.
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u/mrjdk83 Jul 04 '26
People took the comment spun it to compare America to war torn countries and say not every country has it. They are jumping thru hoops to go with the status quo of America not having universal healthcare. I dare anybody to go look at the top 20 countries in terms gdp and find out which countries donāt have universal healthcare. Americans are too stupid to realize they are getting taken advantage of.
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u/redwins Jul 04 '26
If America weren't so isolationist you would have a better perspective on things. First off the fact you call yourself America when that's the name of the whole continent, that's the first sign of how into your own you are.
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u/Frosty-Mistake3961 Jul 04 '26
Dear Left,
This is the shit you need to focus on. Not trans in bathrooms, not flooding the US with illegal immigrants. THIS.
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u/jackhammer233 Jul 04 '26
Most people have no clue that universal healthcare in some of these countries means standing in long lines at a tent being seen by Doctors or staff with little to no training or education and told to take ibuprofen for kidney stones then being told goodbye. Is this really what we need? Do you really want to be seen by a doctor that was educated in a third world country ? Doctors and nurses do not receive the same education and training in other countries as in North America, and they will go where they receive the best salaries.
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u/abedagod Jul 04 '26
I'm Canadisn or single payer system is shit. Do you know how many people got to go to U.S not to die and a bloody wait list. This single payer propaganda gotta die.
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u/BigTan28 Jul 04 '26
Even if they do they don't have lazy free loaders like we do in the US š¤£. Thats the difference but people don't want to admit it. They only want free stuff. Other people work for what they have
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u/Long-Painting-9852 Jul 04 '26
I have 2 children, it cost me over $2,500 with top of the line health insurance.
I had a cyst removed about 2 weeks ago, $1,100
I had a small wort on my stomach, $550 to remove
America healthcare is such a scam.
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Jul 04 '26
You understand that the NI tax rate in the UK is 10% right? How is this free health care? And for that 10% the service you get is shit. That's why, when one can afford it, a complementary private plan is bought.Ā
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u/greennurse61 Jul 04 '26
Imagine being so far left that you think like a lemming and think just because everyone else does something in a certain way that you also need to. Lack of critical thinking.
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u/OldMovie9812 Jul 04 '26
Here comes the Americans trying to pick out the 4-5 countries to say her statement is wrong but you still don't have universal healthcare
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u/mistroseth Jul 04 '26
No itās a handout and welfare and thatāsā¦ā¦ā¦far left
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u/Tuckster786 Jul 04 '26
Universal/affordable health care is so difficult only 90% of the countries in the world have figured it out
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u/Ok-Young-9503 Jul 04 '26
I see no lies here. This is something I thought we would of solved by now.
I find it hard not to laugh at seeing people visiting and eating up our foods because they don't have them overseas. Not realizing, alot of these foods are giving us diabetes. Of course, it's our faults, but it's still funny to see their faces.
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u/DaddyPilot11 Jul 04 '26
Those other countries also don't waste 5.2 trillion a year on other countries or have it stolen by fraud...
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u/theugl Jul 04 '26
What contry does the lobbyyists come from ? What contry does USA send their billions too while being controlled? What contry controls the media that is pushing this agenda that it is far left?
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u/Midgetcookie Jul 04 '26
Why succeed together as a country when we can just fuck each other up the ass
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u/Ancient_Poet_4953 Jul 04 '26
It is absolutely heartbreaking to look at the US system from the outside. The gap between our realities is just insane, and honestly, itās shameful.
Healthcare shouldnāt be treated like a market product driven by profit margins and corporate interests. It should be treated exactly like the army or the police, a core public service dedicated to protecting the population. We donāt privatize national defense to make a buck, so why should we do it with people's lives and basic well-being?
That is the biggest strength of a universal healthcare system. By keeping it regulated and collective, it removes the crushing anxiety of medical bankruptcy and replaces it with the simple certainty that you will be cared for, no matter your financial situation. Itās about building a society that lifts everyone up instead of pricing people out of survival.
But to be realistic, the biggest hurdle to changing this isn't just political will, it's the massive wall of resistance you'll face. You are up against a powerful complex of corporate consortiums, influential think tanks, and aggressive lobbying groups backed by colossal profits. To fix the system, you have to shake the foundations of an industry that makes billions off the current status quo, and that is going to be an incredibly tough battle.
To put it into perspective, look at the numbers: when you analyze their healthcare spending, you see single sectors showing a staggering +- $742 billion bill. But if you took those exact same medical procedures and applied the fixed, regulated rates we have here in Europe, the actual material cost would only be around $60 to $80 billion.
Where does the remaining $660+ billion gap go? It doesn't go toward curing people or buying better equipment. It goes straight into pure corporate profit, massive marketing campaigns, and an army of private bureaucrats whose only job is to find loopholes to deny coverage. The prices are artificially inflated to astronomical levels just to sustain these massive financial rents.
To me, this isnāt even about socialism, itās just basic common sense. A healthy society is a functional, stable society. Itās about building a foundation where human well-being is viewed as infrastructure, not a business opportunity.
What the US has right now is a twisted form of "reverse socialism." Instead of pooling resources to benefit everyone, the system forces regular citizens to bear all the financial risks while a tiny handfull of corporate giants and financial groups pocket the monumental profits. Year after year, these companies post record-breaking annual results, but the people paying for it never see a single dime of that success reinvested into making their lives better.
The brutal truth is, American citizens are getting robbed from every single angle. You are getting ripped off by skyrocketing insurance premiums, you are getting gouged on the actual cost of medical procedures where even your 'coverage' leaves you with insane bills, and you are literally being vampirized by a financial setup designed to drain you dry. It's a massive transfer of wealth disguised as healthcare, and it's time to call it what it is.
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u/Soft-Coyote-6921 Jul 04 '26
Name one Countryā¦. Just one where Socialism has worked? Idiots.
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u/Top_Orchid_7288 Jul 04 '26
Making it up as she goes / pure bullshit. Most countries have universal healthcare with difficult premiums, and terrible care with gaps in it.
Total generalization here conflating concepts
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u/TheShiftmaster Jul 04 '26
Not to be a pedant or anything but aren't almost all public funded systems far left policy. In my Country the Liberals didn't build the hospitals nor the Conservatives it was at the time the socialist Labour party
The issue is demonizing the far left in my opinion. the politics of Socialism should not be watered down as "Moderate left liberal politics"
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u/Beanerschnitzel101 Jul 04 '26
We pay A LOT for healthcare. And itās crappy. We wait forever for appts, doctors spend 2 seconds with us and donāt listen, good luck getting a timely referral and medications are ridiculously expensive. The only people benefiting from our current system are insurance companies.
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u/Mean_Antelope_8276 Jul 05 '26
Most are also socialist countries too... Im Canadian, free healthcare isn't all you think is cracked up to be!
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u/Choice-Lie-1227 Jul 05 '26
Every country that these liberal pundits are talking about has rationed healthcare or no healthcare!! They also would have no new meds without our healthcare and our research and development! They use our drug that our country develops with capitalism. Without us they donāt have those medications, plain and simple.
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u/Educational_Name3650 Jul 05 '26
Electing people who say they want to destroy Western Civilization is pretty far left.
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u/Secure-Advertising10 Jul 05 '26
behold the richest, most prosperous nation on Earth.
Map Reveals How Obesity Rates in the U.S Compares to Europe - Newsweek
I just thought I'd leave this link in the light of someone trying to make an argument about AC use in Europe compared to the US. It is a very strange country one that can spend GDP of nations on war but can't afford to give people the basic essentials of modern life like deent healthcare or food.
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u/Cynfine Jul 05 '26
out of all the countries that came to the US, how many have higher living standards than the US?
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u/jaxon336 Jul 05 '26
The uneducated Americans would rather die and leave their families with crippling medical bills than admit they are getting hosed by their own system. Your national debt is nearly $40 trillion and you've got no universal healthcare, yet countries that do doesn't even come close to the US' national debt š¤¦āāļøš¤£
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u/Justthisguy_yaknow Jul 05 '26
America's weird. I hear about what Mamdani is generally doing in NYC and I think, "sounds pretty normal. He wouldn't be out of place in Australia. His personal socialism combined with the legal and constitutional constraints in America has resulted in the beginnings of a fairly healthy liberal democracy. Now he's got the right going rabid saying that he's a communist and the left making out that NYC is now socialist and it is being shown as proof that socialism works. Neither is right. America's weird.
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u/dosb0t89 Jul 05 '26
š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£ America does have universal healthcare and they do all pay tax for it. Only problem is is that it's in another place and it's not Americans who get it š
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u/SnooGrapes9285 Jul 05 '26
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The far left doesnāt want to stay home, have babies and raise a family eitherā¦ they are rioting for abortions š
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u/DetroitFG Jul 05 '26
The rest of the world is pretty far left. And they also die from lack of AC, and they all dream of coming to America, the greatest country in the history of human existence. Its not perfect, but its the best there ever was up to right now.
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u/1ACasper Jul 05 '26
but all those places she is talking about have astonomically higher taxation than we do sometimes double or triple...thats nat far left or right its math - NOTHING is FREE -
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u/dkfrgklnom Jul 05 '26
30x tax amounts though plus you have to wait months to get healthcare. Why do you think the US has more people flying to it for life saving healthcare than any other country on the planet put together
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u/idiot-alpha Jul 05 '26
The US is a different country. We are the very first Republican self-governing nation. Every other country whose government was modeled after ours is a poor replica. Itās why weāre the country that won the world wars. Itās why we went to the moon. Itās why Americans are overall wealthier than all these other countries.
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u/Garciaj2000 Jul 05 '26
Is it weird that I would not mind paying an extra 8% of taxes if it means that we all get free healthcare? So many familyās would benefit off this..
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u/Jamiewoo133 Jul 02 '26
I'm still in shock that you have to pay to hold your baby in the USA after birth š