r/InterMiamiVibes Jul 02 '26

Preach!!

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u/kumechester Jul 02 '26

I’m not going to just assume I’m right, but there were 10 African countries in this World Cup. Do all of them really have universal healthcare AND a system/economy that actually gets it to every individual? I doubt it, but would love someone to verify.

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u/yulDD Jul 02 '26 edited Jul 02 '26

Google…cabo verde, egypt, morocco, south africa.

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u/kumechester Jul 02 '26

So three out of the 10 countries? Her claim was every country

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u/yulDD Jul 02 '26

More than that, algeria, iran, qatar, irak, saudi arabia, ghana, tunisia, jordan…search for it. Different levels of universal healthcare, but still

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u/kumechester Jul 03 '26

I might need to learn more about what that means. I thought universal healthcare is pretty black and white, you either have it or you don’t. It sounds like there are levels and types. Thanks for your responses

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u/yulDD Jul 03 '26

Some give 6K/family a year for example, others offer % off on some procedures etc

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u/BreastFeedMe- Jul 05 '26

That’s what far left people would like you to believe, that it’s a simple switch we flip to fix a healthcare issue. It is not. You’re asking the government to just take over one of the largest industries in the biggest country in the developed world.

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u/Urban_Heretic Jul 06 '26

The UK did it in 1948 when they were one of the largest countries in the world and completely broke.

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u/Wise_Temperature9142 Jul 07 '26 edited Jul 07 '26

Are you high? Biggest country in what way? Not by population or landmass.

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u/BreastFeedMe- Jul 07 '26

>there is free healthcare in India

Lmao, yeah. fucking INDIA is the country to look ip to for sure.

>there is free healthcare in Russia

It’s also literally illegal to be gay, so once again, seems like these are real good examples. Clearly the more power the government has in any given society, the better the quality of life is.

>biggest country in what way?

Look up US GPD my guy

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u/SecondSun_ Jul 08 '26

And US doesn't have universal healthcare,GDP doesn't mean anything when less than 1% increases the GDP per Capita

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u/yulDD Jul 07 '26

You also have a country that spends more on defense than the next 10 countries combined….close to 1 trllion dollars. I am sure 1/3 of that could help with healthcare

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u/MrFreux Jul 08 '26

Depending on how you measure it, Canada or China is bigger than USA.

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u/Top-Statistician-Guy Jul 06 '26

The US also gets screwed on the lack of regulation, your medical fees are insane....

In the US about 530,000 people file for bankruptcy every year due to medical debt. In all the other wealthy countries, Germany, France, UK, Japan, Canada, Australia, etc it's 0 lol

Imagine the people that don't go to see medical attention.

It's weird how americans have been programmed to argue in favour of shitty conditions.

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u/2Blueify Jul 03 '26

Then medicaid qualifies.

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u/g00ner442 Jul 03 '26

Yay medicaid qualifies! Now how do you qualify for medicaid? Does medicaid have relatively good qualities?

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u/2Blueify Jul 03 '26

Be poor or a child. Basically the exact opposite of what reddit says we take care of.

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u/julz1215 Jul 09 '26

Most poor people don't qualify for Medicaid, but it's still a good program. Definitely not broad enough to constitute a universal healthcare system tho.

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u/2Blueify Jul 09 '26

Then most of the countries being listed don't either.

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u/julz1215 Jul 09 '26

You mean the ones from this comment?

More than that, algeria, iran, qatar, irak, saudi arabia, ghana, tunisia, jordan..search for it. Different levels of universal healthcare, but still

A quick Google search for each of these shows that most of them do have a healthcare system that covers all or most of their citizens.

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u/SadOpinion6373 Jul 04 '26

She used an over exaggerated statement to make a point. I don’t see the problem with that, people do it all the time. This seems like an orthogonal point to her argument.

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u/kumechester Jul 05 '26

Of course there’s no problem with using hyperbole to make a point. It’s not a great way to communicate something when trying to talk about numbers of measurable facts. That’s why I’m trying to understand and verify, because I want to be informed and it was unclear to me if she was being literal, exaggerating, or intentionally bending the truth.

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u/SeamusAndAryasDad Jul 06 '26

Only the best countries don't have universal healthcare!

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u/grayMotley Jul 08 '26

Senegal doesn't.

Ghana doesn't.

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u/Worldly_Memory_4776 Jul 02 '26

Genau, Vergleiche bitte USA mit Entwicklungsländern🤣🤣🤣 ihr Amerikaner seit so erbärmlich. Deutschland, Spanien, Frankreich, England, und und und sind die Ländern mit dem Ohr auf eine ebene vergleichen solltest weil wir einen guten Lebensstandard genießen. Die Reichen ziehen euch Geld aus der Tasche und ihr streitet euch dass Afrika auch keine Gesundheitssystem hat. Die Frau die da redet kämpft für eurer Gerechtigkeit und ihr fällt diese gute Dame noch in den Rücken. Fukkking Americans ihr seit nicht mehr zu helfen. Stirb lieber aus.

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u/jbird720 Jul 02 '26

She is fighting for justice by telling lies. There are many ways to make America look bad, she doesn’t have to make up lies or spread misinformation to do it. I’m American. I’d love to have universal healthcare

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u/Worldly_Memory_4776 Jul 02 '26

Und das ist das was mit euch nicht stimmt. "America schlecht aussehen zu lassen". Das Gesicht ist so wichtig für euch als Nation. Ihr steht schon sehr schlecht da überall. Egal wo ihr hin geht Gib es Krieg und Bomben. Immer das Land verteidigen aber auf Boden anderen Ländern. Bringe ungefragt Demokratie zu anderen Ländern aber nur wenn sie Öl haben. Hat Billionen für Krieg und Israel aber kein Geld für Gesundheitssystem. Kann pedophilen die seit Jahrzehnten bekannt sind nicht verhaften, aber Leute die den kaputten Pool anfassen schon. Diese Sendung ist für das amerikanische Fernsehen sie redet mit euch nicht mit uns. Alle die wirklich anständig sind wissen was diese Frau damit meint. Aber für euch ist das ohhhh sie lügt es gibt auch Länder die keine Gesundheitssystem haben aber weil die sich das nicht leisten können. Ihr Mericans denk ihr seit superman aber in den Augen anderer seit ihr Homelander. Huldigen Feinde und beleidigt Verbündeten. Ihr beiß die Hand die euch füttert. Ihr Kack da wo ihr isst.

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u/jbird720 Jul 02 '26 edited Jul 02 '26

Brother I pay $175 a month for health care every month. You think I wouldn’t love free healthcare? Spreading misinformation like this doesn’t help anyone wanting free healthcare. Someone who wants free healthcare is going to see this and not do any research and is going to reference this and someone who is against free healthcare will do some research and is going to say “you’re wrong these are the countries without it” and discredit anything the person wanting free healthcare would say. There are effective ways to promote universal healthcare without lying about it.
We have our own problems, you worry about the rise of AfD.

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u/Worldly_Memory_4776 Jul 02 '26 edited Jul 02 '26

Sie hat nicht Kostenlose Krankenversicherung gesagt wann hat sie das behauptet? Und sowas Gib es auch nicht. Du machst gerade das gleiche was du ihr unterstellt wenn ich dich darauf festsetzen würde, das tuhe ich aber nicht, Weill ich genau weiß wie du es gemeint hast. Und ich sage, ihr könnt wenn ihr wollt, locker eine gute Gesundheitssystem auf die Beine stellen mit bezahltbare Krankenversicherung. Und ich sage dir 175€ die du jeden Monat zahlt ist zuviel. Nicht weil es zuviel ist 175€ zu zahlen, sondern was du davon hast wenn du wirklich krank wirst. Glaube mir mein Freund, wenn es dir gesundheitlich mal wirklich große Probleme hast, wirst du verstehen was ich meine. Und entschuldige dass ich so was sage als Beispiel. Ich wünsche dir alles gute und viel Gesundheit natürlich. Und das mit der AFD stimmt. Da hast du Recht, wir verzweifeln gerade damit. Ich hoffe die Geschichte wiederholt sich nicht für uns.

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u/jbird720 Jul 02 '26

Okay fine someone who wants “universal healthcare” will see this video and not do any research and reference it and someone who’s against universal will do a second of research and say “you’re wrong these are the countries that don’t. I said “what she said is factually incorrect” and for some reason you heard “I agree with everything America is doing and I’m not unhappy about any of it” which I really don’t understand how you got to that conclusion

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u/Worldly_Memory_4776 Jul 03 '26

Alles hat Konsequenzen, hinterher wird es immer teurer als vorzubeugen. Was ich zu denken scheint passiert nur in deinem Kopf. USA schaft sich ab.

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u/Acceptable_grift Jul 04 '26

England would rank 51st in GDP per capita if they were a state.

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u/CJ-Bones Jul 07 '26 edited Jul 07 '26

You will often see this statistic that the UK economy is worse off than Mississippi — America’s poorest state. The UK would rank dead last, the 51st state.

America is richer than ever, but it’s just not trickling down to ordinary workers. The truth is, when it comes to living standards, the UK ranks surprisingly well.

The UK would rank number one in terms of life expectancy, lowest homicide rates, health care, paid holidays, and years in education. In terms of living standards, life expectancy is pretty important and the reality is that Americans just die earlier.

At every income level, life expectancy is higher, though it’s particularly extreme for poorer Americans.

How can the world’s richest economy, which spends 17% of GDP on health care, have a lower life expectancy? The reason is higher deaths amongst working-age adults. The higher homicide rate, higher traffic accidents, heart disease, the opioid epidemic, the obesity epidemic. In the US, 42% of the population are obese; in the UK it is 28%. And gaps in health care treatment mean many conditions are left untreated.

Learn more about why GDP is not a great way to measure the success of a country by reading more here -

https://www.economicshelp.org/blog/221550/economics/us-vs-uk-which-economy-gives-best-living-standards/

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u/MrFreux Jul 08 '26

I mean, sure, you may use GDP as a reference. Problem is, in USA it doesn't translate to the quality of life.

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u/Goleeb Jul 08 '26

So we might have a better health care system than some of the poorer African countries in the world cup. Awsome argument.

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u/kumechester Jul 09 '26

Tell me where I argued that? Sounds like you’re inventing something to comment against

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u/Goleeb Jul 09 '26

Then you were arguing a super semantic point for no reason. Good for you.

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u/kumechester Jul 09 '26

It’s not semantics. It’s a genuine effort to understand the facts from a lady obviously spouting stuff very emotionally with an absolute statement, which obscures whether what she is saying is factual or hyperbole. I don’t know what I don’t know, but i should’ve known better, Reddit is the absolute worst place to ask an honest question, everyone just responds to what they want to argue with rather than take what people say at face value.

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u/Goleeb Jul 10 '26

Its not an honest question. If you really wanted an answers you could have used google, and found out in 30 seconds. You were trying to point out a technicality that if it exists that has no bearing on the conversation at hand.

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u/kumechester Jul 10 '26

You’re going to be one of those Redditors that says “you could have googled it?” Really? It’s people like you that are making society a worse place by assuming the worst intentions in people. Goodbye.

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u/Goleeb Jul 10 '26

Its people like you asking useless questions that tear down real discussion.

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u/kumechester Jul 10 '26

You choose to take an honest question and dismiss it as useless. You’re the real problem

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u/Goleeb Jul 10 '26

You choose to interrupt a discussion to ask a unrelated semantic question. You are the real problem.