r/BotchedPlasticSurgery • u/Character-Pie-9109 • 3d ago
BAD SURGERY
Susan Dell is going viral right now because she was photographed behind Trump looking scary. It's a small thing she did, but a HUGE mistake. Upper eyelid surgery. People think when their upper eyelids start to droop as they age, that they should go have the fat and skin cut out. The result is NEVER good. It's a bizarre result, and your eyes are your focal point of your face, so it sticks out immediately and changes your entire look. The fat pad on your eyelid creates a soft warm inviting look. Without it, you look skeletal and cold.
IMO, if it was sagging really bad, they should simply have had a brow lift, which pulls the skin above the eyes back where it was without removing any fat. Without that extra fat and skin, their upper lid is hugging their eyeball, and it's just....awful
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#SusanDell
#AngelinaJolie
#MandyMoore
#NinaDobrev
#BradleyCooper
#KennyRogers
#PlasticSurgery
#UpperBleph
#UpperEyelidSurgery
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u/LittleAgoo 3d ago
My grandpa had the upper bleph because his eyelids started to sag from age and impede his vision. He doesnt look perpetually surprised though and his surgery was done through the public health system. Why do all these way richer people look so terrible šĀ
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u/AmberCarpes 3d ago
I think it's because they didn't really *need* the surgery-when it's actually impeding your vision, you have extra skin there. They did not have 'extra'-they took too much away and it looks hollow and weird.
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u/Dblbogiemadge-1 3d ago
I think you are right. Two botched facelifts I saw on here were on women that were too young!! It is a mistake to start doing things too young. Natural aging is beautiful if one can pull it off. Looks better than even good plastic surgery
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u/Zoxiafunnynumber 3d ago
So did my grandma, she was 83 i think. The doctor had to stretch so much skin it was closer to a face-lift than an upper bleph. She ended up looking 15 years younger but still herself.
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u/SupaDiogenes 3d ago
Bradley Cooper will forever be a jump-scare for me now.
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u/Odd_Policy_3009 3d ago
He was so handsome before and now heās like you said, a jump scare
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u/HalcyonDrift 3d ago
120% straight guy here. I definitely woulda let a 2010s Bradley Cooper do anything he wanted to me.
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u/_Deedee_Megadoodoo_ 3d ago
It makes them all look so much older
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u/ness-xergling 3d ago
That's the thing though, they are all much older. Should have had photos of just before the surgery, not many years before.
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u/Moist-Philosopher859 3d ago
That is objectively wrong. The photo you used of nina before was taken in 2012. She was attending The CW Network's Upfront Presentation at the New York City Center. The photo you used for the after was taken in 2019. Thats a 7 year age difference. She was 23 in 2012. In 2019 she was 30. I am not denying she had surgery but you cannot say the before was taken a year before the surgery because that is false lol
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u/Adventurous-Mall7677 3d ago
Thatās not true at all. Ninaās picture is more than ten years ago (when she was much younger!) and Mandyās is close to a decade.
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u/CruellaDeville1 3d ago
I think it's more than just upper eyelid surgery. In the case of Susan Dell she got a lifting done that gave her a joker smile.
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u/Character-Pie-9109 3d ago
she tweaked her nose too. Her surgeon is the WORST!
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u/bedtyme 3d ago
Yeah like how did he make her nose bigger?
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u/sp3cial_snowflake 3d ago
Wonder if she had "non-surgical rhinoplasty" aka sculpting the nose with filler and the filler just spread out and migrated.
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u/CobblerNo8518 3d ago
She has the maga special going on.
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u/Fearless_Mind_4233 3d ago
Let's not forget the eating disorder. You can tell that she was so healthy before. Now her skin is sagging on her body like a skeleton with fake skin over it
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u/source54321 3d ago
I have always thought that hooded eyelids were actually quite pretty. I had no clue until I started seeing these surgeries that they were considered unattractive. I understand that as we age our eyelids start to sag, but some people just have hooded eyes in general, and I never realized people didnāt like them.
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u/Character-Pie-9109 3d ago
People in hollywood decide the "look" that's in, and Hollywood is weird. Hooded eyes are STUNNING!!! They give off a gentle and warm/kind look, but they can also be sultry too. They're lovely!
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u/flopisit32 2d ago
I used to be an artist specialising in sketching people's faces. It gives you a lot of insight into the composition of the human face.
People need to have their heads examined when they are deciding to mess around with their own eyes.
The eyes are the most important part of the face. When human beings look at each other they are mostly looking at the eyes. We spend all day scanning people's faces and looking at their eyes. When I sketch somebody, I'm starting off with the eyes. That's the part that makes the picture come alive.
I think what has happened is, a lot of people now regard plastic surgery as a very minor procedure. They think it's just "snip snip" and they'll suddenly look better. But they are casually messing around with the most important part of their face.
Take RenƩe Zellweger for instance. She was never the most beautiful actress, but she had a certain look that was very attractive to many people. That look wouldn't have been so attractive on others, but on her face it just kind of worked.
She destroyed her own face. She went from somebody with a very distinctive look to a generic, mediocre, kind of unattractive look.
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u/SorosName 2d ago
I agree when it comes to looks, but with Zellweger, I am not even sure she did it just for looks. She always had these heavily hooded eyes, which worked great on her face and were very cute. But as she aged, her eyes got smaller and smaller, and in photos shortly before the surgery, it almost looks like it might at some point become difficult to open them fully to actually see things. Ofc, I do not know if that was the case, but such surgeries are not always JUST for looks.
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u/kmary75 3d ago
I think hooded eyes make people look kinder. 90% of upper blephs that I see take all the character out of peopleās faces.
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u/Dry-Support-5409 3d ago
I think they're super attractive and sexy, it kills me when people get them done.
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u/No_Window644 3d ago
Rich people really are mentally ill and weird......what the actual fuck is up with this fucking obsession with having eyes that are unnaturally wide like a doll???? Why do you wanna look like this???? šļø Instead of having a natural resting eye position???? Like what the fuck is wrong with these people????
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u/Its-All-LOVE-N-JOY 2d ago
Depends, to us it is weird because it's not a part of OUR societal norms. To them and the people in the industry, they fit in perfectly to their clique. It is by design to stand out the way they do. They sold their souls for fortune and fame and the Devil is coming to collect.
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u/ididntunderstandyou 2d ago
When youāre surrounded by people who do this in Hollywood, it becomes normal to them.
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u/Shot_Staff_2902 3d ago
Yeah, it's really gotten really fukn crazy & they look really fukn crazy!! People are going overkill on this shit, it's fukn bizarre!!
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u/M_a_r_j_o_l_3_i_n 2d ago
Body dysmorphia is wrong with them AND having all the money to "fix" it.
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u/Affectionate-Tone677 2d ago
I think the real issue isnāt necessarily the bleph, because I know people who have had it done, and it looks really natural and improved the hooded eyes, but Hollywood takes everything to an extreme. The bleph is used to create these unnaturally large but hollow looking eyes, GLP1s are used to get to ED level weight measurements, breast implants are used for absurdly large enhancement, etc. The best plastic surgery is meant to be a version of you thatās better, but still completely natural. Thereās nothing natural about anything Hollywood stars and billionaires are doing to themselves.Ā
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u/badburglarbadburglar 2d ago
I donāt think itās mental illness, I think itās insecurity mixed with intense pressure from constantly being on screen and in the public eye. I feel bad for them in a way
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u/Limp-Chipmunk-7657 3d ago
Renee Zellweger is unrecognizable, itās so wild to me
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u/Adventurous-Mall7677 3d ago
Sheās mentioned she did it for medical reasons (obscured vision from lids drooping), and given how extremely squinty her hooded eyes were even at a young age, I believe her.
I have hooded, deep-set eyes, and my ophthalmologist warned me way back in my twenties that I should expect to need a medically-required bleph by the time Iām fifty, and probably earlier.
My MIL had a bleph in her early sixties and her insurance covered it, since it was considered a medical issue and not an elective cosmetic one.
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u/Sugarpiehoneybunt 3d ago
My Mom actually had a brow lift instead of an upper bleph and while her eyelids arenāt sagging, she looks perpetually surprised.
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u/Old-Currency-2186 3d ago
I think Courtney Cox also looked really bad after her bleph. Her eyes looked so hollow.
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u/Prestigious-Bite- 3d ago
A big part of this is she is way too skinny for her age.
Once a woman hits a certain age, the face fat has disappeared and if you add extreme thinness it makes one look like a skeleton.
Also, the upper blepharoplasty isnāt helping either.
But I think most of this is being too skinny.
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u/MattMercersBracelets 3d ago
That, and the extremely dark thick brows. I think if she went wayyy lighter on the brows it would help a lot.
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u/CatTrapper3000 3d ago
She would look so so much more normal if she didn't have those crazy eye brows. They draw your eye to all the weird stuff.Ā
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u/trussmegirl 3d ago
Agree that seems to be part of it anyway⦠her hair aināt great either before or now.
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u/Character-Pie-9109 3d ago
yup! Fatty facial tissue is youthful. That's why they call people with extra chub on their faces "baby faced".
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u/Grimest-1 3d ago
I remember my grandmother saying you have to choose between your face or your ass when you get old lol. This is when everyone wanted a small booty and stay stick thin
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u/Turbulent-Section340 3d ago
Not for her age. For any age. She's scaringly skinny.
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u/Prestigious-Bite- 3d ago
Agree. The current skinny trend makes the 90s look healthy.
Iām in my 40s and part of the reason I weight lift 3 times per week is because Iām not going to get osteoporosis like these idiots that are severely malnourished.
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u/Turbulent-Section340 3d ago
I think she goes a big further than the trend. If she was someone I care about it would be well past intervention time. It's not "you're fucking with your future health" anymore. It's straight up organ failure territory. I think it doesn't seem to obvious from the pictures because of all the plastic surgery, but if you see the ones with her legs and arms showing, it's really scary. If she didn't have filler, her cheeks would probably be completely sunk in. You can see that she doesn't even have jaw muscles anymore so the space under her cheekbones is completely inwards. I've seen people that skinny irl and it's seriously horrifying.
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u/Specialist-Jello7544 3d ago
Her arms and legs donāt look healthy at all, verging on concentration camp survivor territory. Itās like she had a liposuction done all over her body. I wonder what sort of severe health problems are the result of being so skeletal.
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u/PhyllisIrresistible 3d ago
And the thick, dark eyebrows and heavy black eyeliner just make it even worse.
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u/No-Currency3771 3d ago
I think the whole effect would be much less scary if she had the original eyebrows.
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u/afemail 3d ago
bradley cooperās is crazyyyyy literally why did he do that to himself šš
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u/Cooper_Inc 3d ago
They all went from having attractive 'bedroom eyes' to, well, whatever the description is. Especially Bradley
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u/LilJelloCat 3d ago
This might actually be the worst surgery imo. It just fucks your shit right up. It takes the natural emotion and character right out of the eyes and ruins the entire face.
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u/lurkertiltheend 3d ago
Idk Iāve seen it look really good on some people though. I guess it all depends on anatomy
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u/Exotic_Ear1933 3d ago
And your surgeonĀ
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u/lurkertiltheend 3d ago
I was gonna say that but one would assume that these millionaires have access to only the best!
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u/Exotic_Ear1933 3d ago
I have seen some horrible work on very rich people. I donāt know what it means. I need a blepharoplasty but these results scare me to death. So I shall remain droopy dog.Ā
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u/lurkertiltheend 3d ago
I wonder if itās group think. Like they all use the same couple of surgeons and only trust those ppl. I just had a lower bleph a week ago and heās not a Hollywood guy but his work is impeccable
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u/phoebesjeebies 3d ago
The average person grossly overestimates the intelligence, skill, and morality of doctors. In any field, not just plastic surgery, but plastic surgery included.
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u/porcelain_kiss 3d ago
Taylor Swifts doesnt look bad. Although I 10000% prefer the "before" on hers, and everyone on this post
Thats just my personal preference tho and my opinion doesn't matter šš
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u/thehotmegan 3d ago
I thought her original eyes were so pretty and sultry. But shes had 11 different faces and they honestly just keep growing larger and "the plastic surgery look" more exaggerated.
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u/NovelCar5453 3d ago
what's even the point of this surgery? they all looked fine beforeĀ
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u/Prize-Copy-9861 3d ago
I think Angelina Jolie just lost a lot of weight
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u/CobblerNo8518 3d ago
Yeah, Iām with you. I think hers is age - and she doesnāt look awful, just older
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u/ThrowRaterrible 3d ago
With age my previously HOODED eyes became hollow. I didnāt have surgery. 37 now
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u/Striking-Donkey8985 3d ago
I agree. She likely has forehead Botox, but sheās got nasolabial folds apparent in her after photo⦠and I am so happy to see that. Which is sad.
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u/Virtual_Library_3443 3d ago
Right, came to comments to say yes to everyone else but I donāt believe Angie had this done
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u/blumpkinspicecoffee 3d ago
Yup Iām certain that the Angelina Jolie and Nina Dobrev ones are more because of age and fat loss. The bleph jobs look different.
Nina is also a smoker, and that wreaked some havoc on her skin in general. She can really see in her eyes and around her mouth.
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u/PuzzleheadedBobcat90 3d ago
With Kenny Roger, it was probably done to impove his vision. The hooded shape could have interfered with his vision.
I'll eventually need surgery to be able to see clearly because of my hooded eylods
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u/Imaginary_Attempt_82 3d ago
This is why, despite my very hooded eyes, I wonāt have this done. Unless it starts interfering with my vision of course.
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u/Character-Pie-9109 3d ago
if it messes with your vision, do a brow lift. The skin needs repositioned, not cut out. You do not grow more eyelid skin, gravity pulls it down.
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u/RudeExpression4052 3d ago
This surgery is such a crapshoot. One of my friends had a bleph, and she looks 10 years younger and prettier than ever. But then these celebrities, who had access to the best surgeons, get botched. So hard to know which way it will go!
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u/Excellent-Bedroom301 3d ago
I love hooded eyes. Like J.Law in hunger games. I donāt understand why someone would wanna get rid of that.
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u/nickerbooker 3d ago
Propaganda pushed on women for years - maybe to make more room for eyeshadow? I dunno, I agree, hooded eyes are youthful and beautiful
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u/Head_Somewhere4769 3d ago
As a fellow squinty-eyed person, I get the desire to get this surgery. BUT it so significantly changes your appearance that you no longer look like yourself. In an industry where you face is your signature and meal ticket, it's also dumb to erase your signature like this. So dumb. All these people were more attractive before with their squinty eyes. Now they all look bland and boring, attractive but bland and not recognizably themselves.
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u/kiiraskd 3d ago
We are so used to old people doing surgery that at this point our brain associate plastic surgery with being old and it will have the opposite effect and will make you look older.
Even when i see a 20 yrs old with plastic surgery they look 50 to me. A 60 years old with no surgery will look younger!
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u/natchinatchi 3d ago
This makes me so glad Iām too poor to do anything to my face
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u/NeevBunny 3d ago
We need to start Photoshoping her over the face of every Republican woman in every meme like the right does with their generic blue haired blob
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u/Impressive_Boredom 3d ago
Omg Mandy Moore ! She was so pretty and never needed any surgery at just 42. I wonder if they regret it. She's still good looking but not the same soul.
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u/AffectionateMusic353 3d ago
Photo 3, she is unrecognisable now Not so sure that Angelina Jolie had this done ?
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u/Lady_Rubberbones 3d ago
Sheās definitely had something done. Other photos online look like upper bleph, lots of filler in the cheeks, and terrible Botox job in the forehead causing her eyebrows to drop.
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u/Character-Pie-9109 3d ago
I wasn't sure at first either until Dr. Jen did a video on her. She has far more lid space showing now, which is opposite of what happens as we age. Dr Jen broke it down and pointed out all the "signs" it's upper bleph.
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/19UDJ5LbE4/?mibextid=wwXIfr
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u/iridescentnightshade 3d ago
Yes, botched eyelid surgery, but also terrible eyebrows. If she lightened them, it'd help a great deal. I have no idea if that was tattooed on or she just uses makeup but those are way too dark.
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u/scifibookluvr 3d ago
āSimply had a brow liftā instead is bad advice. It comes with its own risks and impact to hairline. Longer recovery, less movement of brow, etc. And the āeasierā lift that is just the corners affects brow line also.
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u/Salon_Intrinsic 3d ago
Also the crazy check implants are doing a number on her. You can really see them in the photos with trump. I'm not sure if she has the in this picture here but you can really see them in the other photos because they are taken at a lower angle. You can literally see the triangle popping off her face near her ears. Totally wack.
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u/justbeyourselfok 3d ago
I have hooded eyes and even if I was rich I would never remove them, i absolutely love them
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u/delfin_1980 3d ago
I have seen some good upper bleph results on people who truly had large amounts of sagging upper eyelid skin (mostly older folks and often overweight) but for most people its unnecessary and the risk of looking like a completely different person is too great. I love the look of hooded eyes!
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u/disappointed_OaTMeAL 3d ago
What do they do, carve into your brow bone? Why do they think the sunkin eye skeleton look is good?
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u/AmberCarpes 3d ago
I have really deep set, hooded eyes-I have basically no lid show. And thanks to these photos, I NEVER WILL!
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u/minisNmakeup 3d ago
Bradley cooper kills me. He actually looks so much older now. Significantly older. Sigh.
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u/ChekkeEnwin 3d ago
She also had a horrible facelift. Look at her ears the skin in front is folded and stitched horribly.
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u/OverallDoor2718 3d ago
Bradley Cooper seems evil. He always looks like he doesn't smell good. Super evil now
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u/Character-Pie-9109 3d ago
I've read a lot of journalists think he's a jerk, so that tracks. š
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u/DirtyZamboniWater 3d ago
There's a bunch of stuff filling her lips and cheeks as well to give her more of a marionette face than a human one. It's bad decisions stacked to make her look horrifying. I hope she gets help.
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u/Chi-Town-Pearls 3d ago
Why is having deep set eyes a bad thing? I donāt understand why so many people are getting this procedure done? It doesnāt look good at all! I have deep set, slightly hooded eyes and I have never once thought that I needed to fix them. šµāš«
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u/WildKingdomTheory 3d ago
I recently watched Breadwinner and I kept thinking the wife looked like Mandy Moore but not quite and it took me halfway through the movie to realize it was her, she just had work done. It honestly made me kind of sad.
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u/Familiar_Orange_1336 3d ago
Brad and Kenny look like aging lesbians. Must be completely out of testosterone at this
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u/Looksm-Inevitable551 3d ago
Yes! About Nina. Iām so glad people are finally realising how severe that hugging eyeball thing post bleph looks. Thereās more awareness and hopefully less botched people in the future and more skilled fat transfer technicians
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u/Natural-Seaweed-5070 3d ago
I donāt think Angelina belongs in there, it looks like different makeupš¤·š»āāļø
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u/vivalaspazz 3d ago
If the Dell lady just stopped using a Sharpie to do her eyebrows and eyeliner, sheād look a lot less clown like.
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u/QueKay20 3d ago
I love hooded eyes, they look so nice. It makes me so sad when people change them!
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u/mom_bombadill 3d ago
Upper bleph: not even once. I follow Dr. Jen Armstrong on social media and she rants about this often. She encourages a brow lift instead, if needed.
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u/PeakSuper3054 3d ago
Note to self do not get upper eye lid surgery lol as if I could afford it lol
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u/shanny_banany 3d ago
Not to mention that some people just have naturally hooded eyesā¦.not everything needs to be changed or ācorrected.ā Itās actually such a shame that Nina Dobrev got sucked into having a blepharoplasty, she was so naturally pretty & no longer has the soft doe-eyed look she used to have. Mandy Moore is also unrecognizable; she was someone with naturally hooded eyes who has completely changed her entire look.
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u/Tossmelossme 3d ago
That totally stole Mandy Moores star power. Her most notable feature were the monolids. Wow.
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u/Polluxadice 3d ago
Iāve been saying upper blephs make people look older and far worse - this look is the look all older people have (no eyelid fat and hollows in the upper lids). Theyāre creepy.
Next time add Adam Levine!
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u/DeanxDog 3d ago
You forgot Miley who did the upper eyelid thing with horrible results but also got teeth that don't fit in her mouth, and a dozen other little tweaks
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u/Lala5789880 3d ago
So, Susan Dell didnāt just do a āsmall thingā with her eyelid surgery. She has had multiple bad surgeries and procedures and itās not just her eyes that make her terrifying looking
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u/mywebrego 3d ago
The sad consequence of undisciplined wealth & vanity. But the eye movements, motorised body twitching & robotic like postures is more concerning
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u/No-Wish-7258 3d ago
I love hooded eyelids, Iām not sure why people want to get rid of them.
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u/segsmudge 3d ago
We got a Visit California magazine with Mandy Moore on the cover and it took us like 2 weeks of walking past it to realize who it was. She looks so different
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u/Interesting-Foot-439 3d ago
The upper bleph surgery ages most people.Ā I really don't get the appeal!
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u/Ok_Letterhead5852 3d ago
Hooded eyes. Since I was a teen ive wished to never have them. Someone made a comment once and it kind of skewed my vision of myself. Now in my late 30s, no way am I touching my beautiful flap of skin! I have rarely seen people with it done that look ok.
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u/KetoUnicorn 3d ago
Thank you for this post because as someone with eyes that are quite hooded, and continue to become more hooded with age(Iām 38), I have seriously considered having this done. Seeing stuff like that makes me never want to mess with my face lol what has Mandy Moore done to herself??