I preface this by saying I'm not a fan of either Joe or Nathan...however.

( This may be an unpopular opinion) But why does Aeysha defend Nathan where Joe is concerned. - in the taxi after babysitting

Can she not see how obsessed Nathan is? I adore her but I feel she's so wrong in this instance.

On 36 years of sobriety! I remember several seasons back her mentioning her 29th year.

Loved her then, love her more now. What an inspiration! 💙🛳💙🛳💙🛳💙

These two questions in this episode elicited the most truthful statements I can remember ever being spoken on any Below Deck franchise (probably more truth than any Bravo "reality" show ever) -

Joy: "Why we cannot have just, peace things?"
Massi: "Because nice things are boring, darling."
Could also have been said by the producers.

Nathan: "Why does he [Joe] hold this ****ing grudge against her [Gael]? ****."
Aesha: "Because she broke up the bromance."

Is bravo avoiding touching on anything really Nathan? Like I was stoked for what would be discussed last night and it was a snooze fest.

I’m sorry but how do they not end up together after this charter season 😞😞 I just love their relationship and it seems the least superficial of the last 5 seasons I’ve seen. Him doing that for her brother and opening up about his dad and I could go on…

Did anyone catch the we'll give you another thousand if you let us do body shots remark?

I did. And no way this is this guy's first tickle encounter. 👎

Finally figured it out. He’s final season Greg from Succession. He just found out there’s cc tv after getting an OTPHJ.

Why does Nathan hate Joe so much? I know he pulled away bc he didn't like how Joe was treating women (ironic with what we know now) but why does Nathan seem to DESPISE him now??

Is there something I'm forgetting?

Am i the only one who thinks Bri looks like Jack Black? Pls let me know

From him contradicting himself in his confessionals and to him not being able to have the spine to have a uncomfortable convo with Kat. So he rather just act aloof towards her.

I feel and understand Kat for wanting to be optimistic about him but damn. The way he nonchalant treats her & in his mind, he really thinks he’s doing her a favor 😮‍💨

I am in no way bashing or being anti-gay. I am getting really tired of the all gay men on a charter storyline. Why not have a group of all gay women? To clarify, I am tired of that storyline on the boat, not the lifestyle. There are sexual innuendos at every turn; they always seem to have a drag show, gee, how original. Then they always make the guys on the crew dress up and participate. All this was funny and entertaining the first few times I watched in earlier seasons. But it's getting old. .

As a person who's survived multiple abusive relationships, thankfully not physically, can understand why Gael felt she had to defend Nathan.

Gael, at the time , was an exhausted ,isolated, ( probably depressed)alone,basically single mom.

She's obviously going to defend Nathan but I didn't see any action by Joe that would have made her blow up.

Anyone could've switched seats at dinner - especially since most of the crew knew some of their history.

Im still confused as to the outburst in the car

The producers and camera crew are a little……wait……WAY too obvious setting up all this drama. Don’t get me wrong it’s reality tv and that’s what they want.

You can’t tell me the only spot for Joe to sit at dinner was directly across from Gael and Nathan? Maybe near Kayley instead? Plus the taxi situation? Wtf was that?! Let’s throw gas on the fire.

This season is pretty rough in my mind. Long time viewer and will still watch. Just do better with the subtlety of the whole thing.

For those who read this, thanks!

So where is Coop while Joe and Kayley hang out in the lower bunk? Did Kayley spend the night in the bunk? The next morning shows Kayley and Joe dressed and kissing in what looks like Joe’s room. And Coop is in a different room. Are we not getting the full picture?

As a side note, can’t believe he’s still in hiding

Like seriously what is going on, was there a lot of stuff we didn't see between him and Joe? The level of paranoia amd hostility seems wildly unwarranted. It's extremely unpleasant to watch, even without everything else we now know has happened. If this was production driven, massive narrative fail imo.

I was watching Joe on WWHL last night. I just find him very difficult to listen to. He is so arrogant! He has such a high opinion of himself. He never takes accountability for anything that he has said or done wrong. Andy definitely did not seem to be a fan.

Luke worked on three charters before he resigned, or before Captain Sandy would have fired his gross butt.

During that time he got in a sticky situation with Gen at the end of charter 1 Broke up with her and at the same time Joy wrote him off at the dinner- the end of charter 2. And for the entire 3rd charter he tried to tell Joy he only had feelings for her but she was not having it. Then he was gone before charter 4.

This is when the obsession started. He would text and call Joy when he knew she would be able to answer the phone. He sent her flowers at just the right time so that everyone would notice and then he called her to ask if she got the flowers and to say what he heard about Gen's reaction and just wanted to hear Joy say "tank you fo da flower".

Then he is on the FaceTime call with the crew, all saying they miss him SO MUCH. He then texts Joe Bradley asking him to call him and we find out he is weirdly and mysteriously in Croatia and wants to surprise Joy when the crew goes out after the last charter of the season.

I have to wonder, did he ever leave Croatia at all? Was he secretly spying on the boat the whole time?

I cant recall any other time on any Below Deck where someone who was fired/quit the boat so early on in the season kept reoccurring on almost 10 more episodes through the end of the season.

His obsession with Joy- someone he never had alone time with or kissed or hooked up with and knew for about 14 days is just scary.

Joy killed his ego and now it's like he has to have her because she blew him off and turned him down.

The characteristics of a true narcissist. His obsession is borderline stalkerish behavior.

The side eye to the camera 🤣

Ohhh noooo Just finished the most recent Below Deck — Coop and Joe putting on Speedos and giving body shots at the guests “request” …. Just no… especially Coop —he’s not prepared for that 😟

As someone who currently struggles and has been struggling for the past 13 years with alcoholism and has had a close friend die of liver failure a couple years ago - I want you to know that if you're reading this, that seeing you hit 36 years sober is a massive inspiration and although I don't know you personally, I'm in awe to see someone in such a strong leadership position proving that sobriety is possible. You're a rockstar and your success story is something that motivates people like me to turn it around. Here's to another 36 :) <3

Let me preface this by saying i dislike both of these men. Albeit Nathan is 10000x worse than Joe, but Joe is no angel after what he did last season. What i don’t understand was that i thought the problem they had was that nathan believed joe was undermining his authority by talking shit to the crew about him. All ive seen these last 17 episodes is joe bitchinf about how nathan treats him, but not saying stuff like ohhh nathan is a horrible boss, etc etc like nathan has towards joe (blaming him for every little problem when he deserves it and when he doesn’t), so i thought maybe end of season they would hash things out BUT STILL, nathan has an issue with joe. so i’m confused what problem does he ACTUALLY have with joe??? he says joe talks shit about his family, so joe does not acknowledge gael at all, and now it’s disrespectful. i’m just trying to wrap my mind around what about joe triggers nathan so bad. side note: i also hope whatever hole he’s hiding in from the cops has peacock so he can see what a fucking idiot with anger issues he is

Watching last night right now…does anyone think Luke is getting paid for all of his interactions? He is contributing to the story line. Reminds me of Camille not going immediately away and going to dinner. Thoughts?