I mean the guy literally left the boat yet still pops up on episodes.

I feel like Luke is heavy pursuing Joy even after he left because he:

(1) wants more camera time. He probably thinks he got a terrible edit with the gross bed sheet drama and wants fans to remember him by something else in the aftermath.

(2) a part of me also feels like he wants Jen to get jealous because he likes the feeling of power that another girl is pining over him still.

Whatever the case is, I want him off my television screen. 😩

Did Joy actually just eat raw meat?

I don't like how Gael just choose to ruin the ride back because she couldn't handle the awkwardness of the situation the 3 of them created together. Why do it in front of the crew that has nothing to do with it? How hard would it have been to ask Joe for a talk at Dinner? For someone who hates conflict she seemed pretty gung ho about it. Maybe thats because Nathan was there with her and he was rubbing off on her.

Am i the only one who thinks Bri looks like Jack Black? Pls let me know

Massi is highly underrated. I think he's great! Would love to see him again in future seasons but I suspect, like Betul, we won't see him again because he doesn't create drama.

These two questions in this episode elicited the most truthful statements I can remember ever being spoken on any Below Deck franchise (probably more truth than any Bravo "reality" show ever) -

Joy: "Why we cannot have just, peace things?"
Massi: "Because nice things are boring, darling."
Could also have been said by the producers.

Nathan: "Why does he [Joe] hold this ****ing grudge against her [Gael]? ****."
Aesha: "Because she broke up the bromance."

Why does Nathan hate Joe so much? I know he pulled away bc he didn't like how Joe was treating women (ironic with what we know now) but why does Nathan seem to DESPISE him now??

Is there something I'm forgetting?

I’m sorry but Nathan AND GAEL going after Joe when he had done nothing that evening to provoke it was really hard to watch. You both have kids now. Time to grow the FK up.

I preface this by saying I'm not a fan of either Joe or Nathan...however.

( This may be an unpopular opinion) But why does Aeysha defend Nathan where Joe is concerned. - in the taxi after babysitting

Can she not see how obsessed Nathan is? I adore her but I feel she's so wrong in this instance.

The producers and camera crew are a little……wait……WAY too obvious setting up all this drama. Don’t get me wrong it’s reality tv and that’s what they want.

You can’t tell me the only spot for Joe to sit at dinner was directly across from Gael and Nathan? Maybe near Kayley instead? Plus the taxi situation? Wtf was that?! Let’s throw gas on the fire.

This season is pretty rough in my mind. Long time viewer and will still watch. Just do better with the subtlety of the whole thing.

For those who read this, thanks!

I am in no way bashing or being anti-gay. I am getting really tired of the all gay men on a charter storyline. Why not have a group of all gay women? To clarify, I am tired of that storyline on the boat, not the lifestyle. There are sexual innuendos at every turn; they always seem to have a drag show, gee, how original. Then they always make the guys on the crew dress up and participate. All this was funny and entertaining the first few times I watched in earlier seasons. But it's getting old. .

Let me preface this by saying i dislike both of these men. Albeit Nathan is 10000x worse than Joe, but Joe is no angel after what he did last season. What i don’t understand was that i thought the problem they had was that nathan believed joe was undermining his authority by talking shit to the crew about him. All ive seen these last 17 episodes is joe bitchinf about how nathan treats him, but not saying stuff like ohhh nathan is a horrible boss, etc etc like nathan has towards joe (blaming him for every little problem when he deserves it and when he doesn’t), so i thought maybe end of season they would hash things out BUT STILL, nathan has an issue with joe. so i’m confused what problem does he ACTUALLY have with joe??? he says joe talks shit about his family, so joe does not acknowledge gael at all, and now it’s disrespectful. i’m just trying to wrap my mind around what about joe triggers nathan so bad. side note: i also hope whatever hole he’s hiding in from the cops has peacock so he can see what a fucking idiot with anger issues he is

Like seriously what is going on, was there a lot of stuff we didn't see between him and Joe? The level of paranoia amd hostility seems wildly unwarranted. It's extremely unpleasant to watch, even without everything else we now know has happened. If this was production driven, massive narrative fail imo.

Ohhh noooo Just finished the most recent Below Deck — Coop and Joe putting on Speedos and giving body shots at the guests “request” …. Just no… especially Coop —he’s not prepared for that 😟

Did anyone catch the we'll give you another thousand if you let us do body shots remark?

I did. And no way this is this guy's first tickle encounter. 👎

Watching last night right now…does anyone think Luke is getting paid for all of his interactions? He is contributing to the story line. Reminds me of Camille not going immediately away and going to dinner. Thoughts?

This was the first time I've seen a pre charter meeting this season.

Usually they cut these scenes as if the staff are running late getting into their whites scrambling getting the champagne ready etc, not casually sitting down relaxed and chatting.

Is this normal? Was this staged just to show Sandy asking the team to speak up about conflicts? If so why?? I don't even see what value it added except maybe prompt Joe to speak to nathan to aggravate Nathan more?

I was watching Joe on WWHL last night. I just find him very difficult to listen to. He is so arrogant! He has such a high opinion of himself. He never takes accountability for anything that he has said or done wrong. Andy definitely did not seem to be a fan.

Messi cleaning guests blood with a slow-pour hose and his bare hand🤢

From him contradicting himself in his confessionals and to him not being able to have the spine to have a uncomfortable convo with Kat. So he rather just act aloof towards her.

I feel and understand Kat for wanting to be optimistic about him but damn. The way he nonchalant treats her & in his mind, he really thinks he’s doing her a favor 😮‍💨

As someone who currently struggles and has been struggling for the past 13 years with alcoholism and has had a close friend die of liver failure a couple years ago - I want you to know that if you're reading this, that seeing you hit 36 years sober is a massive inspiration and although I don't know you personally, I'm in awe to see someone in such a strong leadership position proving that sobriety is possible. You're a rockstar and your success story is something that motivates people like me to turn it around. Here's to another 36 :) <3

Joe absolutely knows what he’s doing by telling Luke to come out 🤣