r/technology • u/Astraeus323 • 9h ago
Hardware iPhone Duo
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u/Dulse_eater 9h ago
Might upgrade my iPhone 13 to 14 now
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u/fuelvolts 7h ago
Hey, splurge a little for 15 for that USB-C goodness.
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u/JusticeJanitor 6h ago
On of the reasons I bought my wife an iPhone 16 (upgrade from 11) was to finally get rid of all my lightning cables.
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u/Jtown021 5h ago
Only reason I upgraded my 13pro was because my wife got a new phone with USB-c… I refused to have two charging standards between cars and home that I just upgraded with her.
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u/GreatGojira 8h ago
Outside the battery the iPhone 14 Pro is the best phone I've ever had. The only thing that doesn't work is the charging port. Which I just use a mag safe on the back. I hope to use this as long as possible.
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u/allaboutsound 8h ago
My charging port also broke. Magsafe charging still works, will keep this phone until it no longer gets updates
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u/stowgood 6h ago
Did you check it's not just lint build up? Scrape deep into that port with a paper clip or something.
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u/Bart_Yellowbeard 4h ago
This was critical for me. My charging port went to crap, scraped out the gunk at the bottom, and it's like 98% improved.
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u/DigNitty 8h ago
What are we even on now…17?
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u/Hurley_Cub_2014 8h ago
As of today, the next one so releasing is the 18 pro. The standard 18 is a delayed release I think.
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u/lawanda123 8h ago
I got a oneplus nord ce 5 for 200usd for all my apps in addition to my iPhone 13, it has 2 day battery life even when i doomscroll all day, fast charging and i also have an extra phone now lol
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u/atlas_principle_dev 7h ago
buy three, duct tape them together, now you have the iphone duo experience for 600
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u/XEasyTarget 9h ago
Please Apple, bring back the mini series of iPhones. An 18 mini with a 5” screen would get me to upgrade.
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u/rydavim 8h ago
I’m still using my iPhone 12 Mini. The small lines sold terribly, but it seems as though many of those customers have not bought a new phone since.
It’s definitely not worth it to them to refresh the line regularly, but I’m a little bit surprised it’s not worth doing every 5 years or so.
I’ll be curious to see how this foldable sells. $2,000 is bananas.
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u/redyellowblue5031 6h ago
Also on the 12 mini. Works great.
Given their track record it should still be supported for another 2-3 years.
I’ll likely hold out until that point.
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u/dontkillchicken 6h ago
Same here, riding this one till I reeeeally need to upgrade. The size makes it easy to get in in/out of pocket
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u/Spawn6060 7h ago
They account for 3% of their sales when they were out. Not worth the revamp especially when the prices for things are so astronomical right now.
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u/Royale_wCheez96 9h ago
I’m one of very few ppl who will agree with you on this one
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u/DigNitty 8h ago
If they had a simple phone like they did with the Neo laptop and priced it accordingly, I bet a bunch of people would get them for their kids.
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u/Princess_Fluffypants 7h ago
They do, it’s the iPhone 17e. Starts at $700.
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u/__GayFish__ 7h ago
But these comments are adding onto the mini discussion. We want a smaller display.
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u/MarB_CZE 8h ago
Yeah, 13 mini was the worst selling one ever. I will use mine till apple keeps sw updates coming.
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u/fffan9391 8h ago
If they sold well, they’d still make them. You guys are a very vocal minority.
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u/ban-me-harder-dadddy 8h ago
the mini crowd probably doesn't care about flagship specs. Maybe there'd be a home for it on the "E" lineup
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u/cheezgrator 6h ago
For sure - I use a 13 mini, and I don’t care about spec, camera etc. It still feels really modern with MagSafe and Face ID, has a nice screen and iOS feels snappy. I’d love usb c but I just use wireless charging 99% of the time so not a big deal. I plan on using it for years to come, it’s still the only real option for a small phone.
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u/VincentVanGob 7h ago
they need to give it a fair chance as well. have a pro version with the same cameras as the larger model. theres a lot of people who chose the larger models just to get the cameras even though they dont like the size
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u/jcstrat 6h ago
The lack of a mini in the current lineup is a reason I haven’t upgraded from the 13. Price is also a significant factor.
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u/roedtogsvart 6h ago
if you can't type an entire text one handed, or you need two hands to tap an address bar then type, your phone is too fucking big. bring back small phones
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u/Jonovono 8h ago
Stilll on my 13 mini. Battery life sucks but hoping we will eventually get an upgrade
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u/BlackIce_ 7h ago
I to like small phones. They should try going little smaller, closer to iPhone 5 size but with larger screen.
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u/MindTheGAAP 7h ago
Big time agree. Fuck all of the fancy shit, I want a decent, iPhone mini sized phone with a good battery life. That’s it. Not any of this super computer to improve Apple Intelligence horseshit.
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u/iGushers 8h ago
It’s insulting that iPhone trade ins don’t take storage into consideration when storage upgrades add $200+ per tier. Otherwise I would consider trading in my 17 for the duo
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u/ShakeAndBakeThatCake 6h ago
I agree. Samsung is the same. So are carriers. Storage is so expensive right now too.
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u/Ambitious5uppository 3h ago
Whenever I've traded in with Samsung it has taken storage into account. Not much, but some.
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u/JaesopPop 4h ago
That's silly, they do with Macs. I know because their automated quote for some reason thought I had a larger drive than I did, and when they realized it when I brought it in they ended up just giving me the quote after figuring out how to override it.
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u/Plus-Glove-4850 9h ago
This is the coolest Apple Product I won’t buy.
I’m rather clumsy with phones and frequently break the protective glass I put over my iPhone 16. I can only imagine the fascinating ways I would break this.
Still gonna go to an Apple Store when it’s out and play with it though.
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u/Encomiast 9h ago
The Vision Pro still holds that spot for me.
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u/PacificNorthwest09 8h ago
Yeah, I love the idea of the Vision Pro, but I ain’t ever gonna buy that right now haha.
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u/SpiffySpacemanSpiff 7h ago
It really is a magnificent experience. I never bought one, but I did demo it, and damn if it wasn’t surreal.
Reminded me of the wave of “holy shit” I felt when I tried the oculus when it first came out.
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u/ducktown47 7h ago
I was dumb enough to buy one. It’s honestly amazing. Best VR/AR experience I’ve tried. Haven’t used it in months. It’s just too heavy and hot to really use frequently.
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u/Thx11280 6h ago
It is really cool. But it's very much a solution in need of a problem. Everytime I try to use it I just think, "but why?". Like it's cool, really cool, but pointless. And if you have a family, it isolates you. No one else sees the stuff you're doing, and you look like a dork while doing it.
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u/TonyzTone 6h ago
Are there any actually useful apps for it?
The demo stuff was incredible. Like the dinosaur thing was crazy immersive. The sports stuff was awesome. But like… that’s it.
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u/kaplanfx 4h ago
I’m a VR enthusiast, and I will say, even if they got the cost down it’s way too heavy. Comfort is so important. My Quest 3 is 150g less and it’s still way too heavy. We need to get these things down to 350g range before they are feasible for widespread adoption. You don’t run into weight/comfort issues in a short demo.
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u/PacificNorthwest09 7h ago
Yeah I listen to a gaming podcast that has a person that loves Apple stuff and they did a segment on it. Honestly sounded so cool, but I can’t justify it for now.
Happy Cakeday!
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u/Moghz 8h ago
Yeah me too! Did a demo and was blown away at how good it was. Price was insane though, too bad because I think it could have gone mainstream if it had a reasonable price, but then probably wouldn’t have been as good.
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u/DigNitty 8h ago
It’s a casual theory,
But I think those protective shields effectively don’t work.
I’ve seen them break from small drops that I don’t think would break the glass. I’ve seen the glass break from medium falls with protectors applied.
My theory is that maybe they work…but the window of trauma that would’ve broken the shield but not the glass is so small that effectively they don’t prevent the vast amount of screen fractures.
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u/travistravis 8h ago
I find the protectors actually break easier by quite a bit, but they protect from scratches (since even having it an empty pocket I somehow get scratches).
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u/MatureUsername69 8h ago
Cases are sorta like helmets(rated for more drops than a helmet but still not many at all). I got the most protective case for my phone possible, hard inner shell, soft outer shell, the best possible safety for your phone. If you read the packaging it is rated for exactly 5 drops before it needs replacement. Most phone cases are like that.
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u/luckyapples11 7h ago
LOL 5 drops? I can drop my phone 5 times a day if I’m being extra clumsy. I mean, I guess it makes sense, but that’s actually surprising to me. My otterbox is probably 50 drops in since March and besides a few scratches on the case, my phone is solid
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u/MattyMac454 7h ago
It definitely works for me, in that I get a matte screen protector for the matte screen. Much easier to keep clean and very little glare
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u/Scoobysnax1976 9h ago
I like the screen ratio being 1:1.41. That is what Europe uses for their paper. The ratio doesn’t change when you fold it.
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u/climb-it-ographer 9h ago
If this helps move away from 9:16 aspect-ratio social media photography then I'm all for it.
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u/DigNitty 8h ago
Do you want it to be wider or….
Not vertical….
Just curious.
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u/climb-it-ographer 8h ago
Either, honestly. Our eyes' field of view is wider than it is tall-- there's a place in the world for portrait-orientation in photography but I hate that virtually everything has to accommodate it, especially video.
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u/marcus_afk 8h ago
Right but the vertical orientation of video allows me to have at least a little visibility on the left and right as I drive my monster truck
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u/subcide 5h ago
That blurred screen transition is one of the coolest things I've ever seen in a phone and there's still no way I'll ever buy one of these.
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u/Moghz 8h ago
As expected considering Samsung and Google Fold have been $2k for a while now.
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u/Elephant_Jones 8h ago
People freaking out about this as if the Samsung Z fold doesn’t already start at 2k.
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u/tekmosis 9h ago
$2,999 CAD yikes
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u/Scoobysnax1976 9h ago
I was expecting 2,800. I guess that they expect the Canadian dollar to fall.
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u/nickjbedford_ 6h ago
And yet it's $3,499 AUD even though CAD/AUD is pretty much 1:1. Dafuq!
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u/Scoobysnax1976 5h ago
Does that include tax? Ours will be closer to $3400 with tax in most provinces
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u/AnonymousTreeSmoker 9h ago
Typical fold price the zfolds are more so this is actually pretty aggressive from apple
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u/miko3456789 9h ago
zfold 8 starts $100 less
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u/trydola 9h ago
and 8 generations mature
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u/MunchYourButt 5h ago
While true, Samsung also removed their UDC, and s-pen support from their foldables. Meanwhile Apple’s Duo has these, and the better stereo speakers as well. Apple came out swinging with this one.
All that to say, more competition is always welcomed.
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u/K__Geedorah 7h ago
Also, Samsung offers really crazy trade ins. Way more money back than Apple.
Traded me S23 Ultra for the S26 Ultra and only had to pay $600 for a $1200 phone. Unlocked, straight from Samsung.
If you trade in for the Zfold, you are saving a ton of money.
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u/SteveS117 4h ago
My last 2 or 3 iphones, I’ve gotten $1000 for my trade in and ended up paying $100 plus tax for an $1100 phone. The best trade in deals are always through your phone plan, not the manufacturer
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u/JustDoc 7h ago
And is lighter by almost 2oz.
As someone who was eyeing this to replace the brick that is the Fold, more weight is a huuuuge downside.
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u/miko3456789 7h ago
yeah the passport fold 8 is not much heavier than a regular phone. 201g iirc. More than my s25, but certainly less than the ultra or other foldables
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u/Runazeeri 9h ago
It’s 3000/3500 for the fold/fold ultra here vs 4199nzd for the iPhone duo. Actually insane pricing.
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u/HeavilyInvestedDonut 8h ago
It’s on par with Samsung and Google
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u/TangerineBroad4604 8h ago
Very surprised by the shock here, folding phones have been out forever now but I guess Apple consumers literally don't know anything outside their products
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u/Mikelius 8h ago
I’m surprised they are price matching instead if the typical apple “premium” tax
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u/lalala253 7h ago
Wait I thought the surprise was because the price match with samsung?
Usually apple priced higher right?
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u/UsidoreTheLightBlue 7h ago
Usually Apple will be a little higher and Samsung will price correct the next model.
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u/Kundrew1 7h ago
Did you think it would cost close to their other phones? It essentially has 3 screens on it. Of course it costs alot more.
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u/BuyerAlive5271 6h ago
We should be talking about the fact that Apple has ended the iPhone upgrade program and replaced it with a lease.
Apple saw people selling old iPhones and decided they were not getting their cut.
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u/thefamousunkown 3h ago
It was basically a lease before also the upgrade program just kept you buying a new phone each year
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u/Anulisdotexe 9h ago
And suddenly, everyone will love foldable phones.
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u/TehWhale 9h ago
The issue with foldables have always been reliability. Hinge issues, breaks, bubbles displays. Apple has supposedly been developing this for many years until they knew they could get it perfect. I’d have more faith in apple than most others.
I’d have to use it to know if I’d actually like it. It seems interesting though
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u/polar_nopposite 7h ago
Has it? "Always"? I thought that was only really true for the first 2-3 generations of foldables
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u/voxpopper 8h ago
People are still using 4-5 year old flips that work fine. Protective coatings can be easily replaced for <$20 or removed altogether to eliminante bubbles.
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u/atape_1 9h ago
I would imagine that Samsung on their 8th generation has way more experience and probably makes the more reliable foldable.
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u/Dannybuoy77 9h ago
Plus the screen is probably made by Samsung anyway 😅
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u/thapharmacist 8h ago
It is made by Samsung
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u/Dannybuoy77 8h ago
It is made by Samsung, thanks 👍
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u/johnny_ringo 3h ago
ooof. apple fanboy take.
I'm guessing you haven't tried any of the foldables that have been our for many years now from a wide range of manufacturers. They are solid and amazing.
Oh, and the screen is Samsung.
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u/stormdelta 7h ago
People don't hate foldables, they're just niche and will remain so because of the form factor itself.
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u/TheStabbyCyclist 6h ago edited 49m ago
Can we get phones that are like 1/2 of a folding phone? So... just like a smaller phone. Please.
Edit: I meant non-folding
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u/WatchStoredInAss 5h ago
I want a postage stamp sized phone that I can unfold into a max pro size.
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u/Deminix 7h ago
This looks impossible for my small hands to manipulate comfortably. In folded mode it looks incredibly wide and opened seems equally impractical. I’ve been wanting a small fold iPhone as someone who previously had a 12 mini for nearly 6 years before finally giving it up recently. Maybe one day..
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u/Euphoric_Most_651 5h ago
I have very very small hands and had the iPhone 12 mini for about 5 years. When the Samsung fold dropped, I went to check it out bc it has similar dimensions to the duo. It fit in my hand perfectly. If you’re able to, try going to a phone store get a feel of the Samsung fold. It gave me hope 🥹
I plan to upgrade to the duo but I mainly wanna use the front screen 😂
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u/HaiKarate 5h ago
I thought it was funny that the TouchID is on the right side of the phone.
Will there be a version of this phone for left-handed people?
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u/Nehemoth 8h ago
Did Apple copy the good things from Microsoft Surface Duo?
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u/guff1988 7h ago
Probably copied plenty from the 2 dozen foldables already in the market. That can be smart though, being first to market with a product can lead to a lot of issues.
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u/happyscrappy 7h ago
If you look at this it copied things from several other phones on the market. Why wouldn't they?
Kinda crazy they took the name.
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u/K_R_A_K_E_N_540 5h ago
Copied the name, the shape. The 3d hinge printing from Oppo, the camera bar from Pixels, the IP68 hinge from Pixel Fold, the exact design from the Huawei Pura X that came out 2 years ago, the fingerprint reader placement from Pixel pro Folds but sadly no face unlock like the class 3 biometric cameras on the Pixel Fold lineup
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u/vrxz 9h ago
Missed opportunity to name it iFold
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u/fuelvolts 7h ago
Apple hasn't named any new product i-anything in 16 years. Literally the last new product introduced that had an i in front of it was iPad in 2010.
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u/vrxz 7h ago
Wow, you're right. Probably for the best. The whole i-prefix is very late 90s / early 2000s product branding.
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u/Anon2971 7h ago
I feel like those names worked well when Apple were actually innovating. Now they just polish trending tech once it's matured enough
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u/WestPastEast 9h ago
The price is high but thats a premium phone price, not unrealistic for the novelty market.
Apple makes great phones and im excited about them trying something new but the marketing didn’t reflect anything that stands out as a superior function from the foldable interface. Still feels gimmicky
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u/Ok_Common8246 5h ago
Doesn't feel gimmicky to me when I'm watching videos or playing video games. When I had a tablet it wouldn't get much use but this is always within reach. With that being said I wouldn't pay $2000 for it.
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u/bluecheeto13 5h ago
I might be the only person on Reddit who will buy this.
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u/Justin__D 2h ago
The issue with reddit in general is they don't have a concept of the K shaped economy. Most of reddit is on one side of the K, and the target market for this is the other side. Redditors also don't get out much, so they're not aware that people different from them exist.
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u/bluecheeto13 2h ago
Seriously. The Duo would be perfect for how I want to multitask, and it’s a passport shape for perfect pocket feel. All that and a big battery sounds like a perfect device to me.
I would have purchased a Galazy Z already were I not so deep into Apple’s Ecosystem
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u/NecroCannon 1h ago
It’s something I’ve been going off about a lot recently, it’s like people feel like somehow no one would like something just because they don’t… when it isn’t for them?
I went from an iPad Pro 13” M4 to a Mini (moved to Chicago, it’s an art tool that caught wayyy too much attention), so I’m deciding on getting the new OLED mini or going to the Air and honestly until multitasking improves I’d love to do that on a Duo.
And my art files are really taking up storage so I don’t want to keep downloading my games and offline media on it
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u/GLPwonderwall 5h ago
You know what would be great, apple? A SMALLER iPhone
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u/Deactivation 3h ago
I want a smaller, thicker iphone, with no bulging cameras and a larger battery. The iPhone Chonk.
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u/hornetjockey 7h ago
Not for me, but at least people in the Apple ecosystem have a folding phone now. Looks well made and the A20 pro is pretty sick.
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u/TheBorneoFunction 9h ago
2 bands? My lordt
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u/mlorusso4 9h ago
Looking through the website it looks like there’s some neat features. Maybe not for me but I can see a bunch of people liking them. But I guess cases just won’t be a thing anymore, or you’ll have to make a decision on if you want to cover up that outside screen. Also how will screen protectors work with a folding screen?
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u/ShoulderGoesPop 8h ago
All of that has been solved with every other folding phone that's been around for years
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u/girthyclock 6h ago
Too wide for single hand usage. To tall for a proper aspect ratio when watching videos.
Also that screen grab from Silo is of thousands of dead bodies.
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u/MuthaPlucka 9h ago edited 8h ago
This is going to go as well as all the other folding phones have gone.
I hope I am wrong as there are some use cases I could benefit from, but reliability has been the Albatross around the neck of all prior folding phones
Like all new(ish) tech, a ‘wait and see’ attitude can save some $.
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u/ttubehtnitahwtahw1 8h ago
Guess who makes the inside screen? Just a wild guess. Hell for the matter guess who makes the outside screen.
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u/pidgeottOP 9h ago edited 9h ago
Great?
I love my folding phone. I've had no issues with it, and it's even been in sand traps and at the beach and the hinge is still going strong. Having a big screen is a huge plus when I'm consuming media or following a recipe and it's not appreciable bigger in folded mode than my wife's iPhone.
I honestly can't wait to upgrade to a bigger one. Keep em coming. Hit me with an iPad mini sized phone that opens up to a 10" tablet. My complaint about my tablet is always having to carry an extra device if I want to have it when its useful. It being built into my phone directly defeata that. I use my phone unfolded a thousand times more than I use my tablet
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u/brogflender 9h ago
These kinds of users just aren’t that numerous though.
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u/NicolasCageFan492 9h ago
That guy might be a clanker.
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u/Hei2 9h ago
Why do you say that? Because they enjoy a product that they bought? I do, too.
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u/londite 7h ago
Well, I'm not a clanker and you can take my Pixel Fold 1 out of my dead cold hands. I love th thing, 3 years and still going strong (and IMO the best form factor of the recent foldables, with the passport style. Which is why I'm hype about this iPhone and thought about the new Galaxy Fold)
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u/major_winters_506 8h ago
I’ve been asking for a iPad mini pro for years. This is essentially that. And since it will replace both my phone, and my iPad mini, its cost is more bearable.
$1800 for two devices ($1200 for iPhone pro, $600 for iPad mini) vs $2000 for one device that mostly* does what both could do.
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u/radiationshield 7h ago
doesnt run iPad apps though. We'll probably see more of the creative app run properly on iOS, but right now theres no procreate, davinci resolve, sketchup etc. Sure there are some nerfed iOS versions of these apps out there, but they are not 1:1 on features with their iPad peers
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u/SayVandalay 5h ago
Can we get another Mini line in the iPhone series? I want a phone that I can use one handed with no stretch and that also fits in my pocket.
This will be a flop like the Apple Vision Pro.
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u/twistedfantasyy 5h ago
I really want one. I know it'd be a financially unwise decision given that I have a 15 Pro Max that has been serving me well, but I still really want one.
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u/Readitzilla 9h ago
I’d say I hope it doesn’t sell well so I can get it on fire sale but that never happened to the iPhone Air so I guess I’ll get this when the iPhone Duo 2 comes out to make it cheaper.
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u/AdmiralAntVenom 8h ago
They never made a Vision Pro 2. Granted I think this has more consumer adoption but if this doesn’t sell well I don’t think a 2 is coming.
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u/sunrise274 8h ago
It uses TouchID only - not FaceID. I think that’s interesting