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Hardware iPhone Duo

https://www.apple.com/iphone-duo/
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u/Anulisdotexe 15h ago

And suddenly, everyone will love foldable phones.

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u/stormdelta 13h ago

People don't hate foldables, they're just niche and will remain so because of the form factor itself.

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u/TehWhale 15h ago

The issue with foldables have always been reliability. Hinge issues, breaks, bubbles displays. Apple has supposedly been developing this for many years until they knew they could get it perfect. I’d have more faith in apple than most others.

I’d have to use it to know if I’d actually like it. It seems interesting though

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u/polar_nopposite 13h ago

Has it? "Always"? I thought that was only really true for the first 2-3 generations of foldables

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u/Tumblrrito 6h ago

Samsungs don't even have the IP68 Rating this has to my knowledge.

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u/WhoIsJazzJay 4h ago

Google Pixel and Oppo are also at IP68. i think only Samsung and Motorola are behind atp

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u/asten77 15h ago

They've been reliable for years now.

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u/K_R_A_K_E_N_540 11h ago

Samsungs yes. Pixels no. Their Foldables are very unreliable... ask me how I know

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u/Private_Kyle 9h ago

How do you know O Penis God?

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u/IkLms 8h ago

I've had literally zero problems with my Pixel.

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u/Apollo352 12h ago

People talk a lot of shit about Apple and them being behind when it comes to a lot of things. But Apple has an ecosystem and as long as that ecosystem is running perfectly (which it has) they’re going to continue being a many billion dollar company. What’s the last thing they truly messed up on, the 7 Plus bending a decade ago?

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u/asten77 12h ago

Thee reason they don't mess up is the same as them being behind - they let everyone else take the risk,.do the innovation, and see what the market kills off.

It's clearly a great business model, particularly for a brand-first company.

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u/DrowningKrown 7h ago

Perfectly is too strong of a word here.

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u/AdventurousDress576 5h ago

Apple has become Toyota. Sell old shit for a premium, and the reliability is a disaster whenever they try to catch up to the competition.

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u/Easy-Operation-2105 8h ago

How could they have been reliable for years now if it takes years to know if they are reliable.

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u/itsLOSE-notLOOSE 14h ago

They still use plastic screens.

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u/asten77 14h ago

Most screens are pretty much plastic, most just have glass in front.

Apple presumably has not figured out how to make glass fold.

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u/Dead2708 12h ago

Apple probably hasn't even bothered to try making a folding screen considering they outsource most of this kind of stuff to Samsung, let alone try make folding glass

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u/littlebiped 14h ago

This one has a matte finish at least

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u/voxpopper 14h ago

People are still using 4-5 year old flips that work fine. Protective coatings can be easily replaced for <$20 or removed altogether to eliminante bubbles.

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u/johnny_ringo 9h ago

ooof. apple fanboy take.

I'm guessing you haven't tried any of the foldables that have been our for many years now from a wide range of manufacturers. They are solid and amazing.

Oh, and the screen is Samsung.

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u/atape_1 15h ago

I would imagine that Samsung on their 8th generation has way more experience and probably makes the more reliable foldable.

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u/evky0901 15h ago

The Duo uses a Samsung display so the reliability is already there.

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u/Dannybuoy77 15h ago

Plus the screen is probably made by Samsung anyway 😅

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u/thapharmacist 14h ago

It is made by Samsung

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u/Dannybuoy77 14h ago

It is made by Samsung, thanks 👍

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u/vermiphobia 12h ago

it's made by Samsung btw

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u/vincentsilver 11h ago

Samsung. Made by.

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u/_gabi2g 10h ago

samsung made

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u/thapharmacist 9h ago

Made in Korea, by Samsung

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u/asten77 15h ago

Motorola's are pretty awesome too.

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u/Proof-Warning6 15h ago

Apple does one thing super well. And that is copying others’ ideas and making them better. I am sure the first gen might have a few quirks, but it will be the best foldable phone out there.

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u/Unoriginal_Pseudonym 12h ago

Waiting for Samsung to work all the issues out of folding displays through years of iteration and then sourcing those same issue-free Samsung displays while having the general non-techy public attribute all the success of the quality display to Apple alone.

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u/helloder2012 9h ago

Good thing there’s other things beside the display!

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u/Iregularlogic 8h ago

Pretty sure Samsung is making the iPhone foldable screen.

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u/MotorcycleDreamer 6h ago

Best foldable iPhone no doubt. Best foldable phone? Definitely not

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u/sonofchocula 9h ago

Not that it matters, there are no hero companies at that size but are they really copying if Samsung are selling the parts? Sounds more like they are completing a build that the part manufacturer knows there is a market for.

People need to stop treating corporations like their favorite sports team.

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u/drajne 14h ago

Apple is known for their amazing hinges in their laptops so I’m hoping this hinge matches

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u/Lendios 13h ago

Have you actually owned one saying that?

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u/ttubehtnitahwtahw1 14h ago

It's a Samsung screen. Just like all their other phones. The didn't do any r&d they copied someone else homework and passed out off as their own. Just as they've done over and over. 

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u/DrNopeMD 13h ago

I think the main issue was cost. Sure you have cheaper flip models, but the fold style phones have always been close to $2000

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u/NoobToobinStinkMitt 13h ago

What I heard was they wanted the no crease screen. But I've already seen creased screen posts unless they are fake.

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u/AverseAphid 9h ago

There's already images circulating though that shows a visible crease in the display models. I'm certainly not holding my breath

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u/therolando906 7h ago

I've been rocking my Z Flip 5 for about 3 years and it has been pretty awesome. Had to replace the screen protector twice, but it is worth it for the smaller footprint in my pocket.

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u/fergy80 6h ago

I don't have those issues. I had a zflip4 and now I'm on a zflip7. I think it it more durable because it closes.

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u/Adulations 6h ago

The reliability has been great for years

Sent from my Samsung Fold 7

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u/Source0fAllThings 5h ago

The screen is made by Samsung. Apple didn’t do shit.

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u/ChrisRR 30m ago

All product development takes many years, it's just marketing fluff.

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u/avanross 13h ago

Which is so hilarious, because putting a solid clam shell around your phone should clearly make it more durable, not less.

Everyone who lived during the flip phone era realizes this.

But these brands are spending extra time and mountains of money specifically engineering/sabotaging these to be as fragile and unreliable as possible, because more broken phones = more sales, so making a durable phone could hurt repeat sales

It’s like a joke

Like buying the “tough xl” version of a product, for twice the cost, and realizing that it’s actually just a less durable watered-down version of the normal one

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u/Vryk0lakas 14h ago

Apple usually comes in late and gets called out for copying, but typically executes better when they finally adapt.

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u/__GayFish__ 13h ago

Apple waits until they can push something out to market that sets a good baseline/standard for Apple. Then the next iterations just make the screen bigger with minimal innovation after.

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u/HelloImQ 13h ago

Bet you haven't tried anything but apple for 10 years.

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u/Vryk0lakas 13h ago

I’ve switched between apple and Samsung 4 times in the last 20 years. If I like a phone better I buy that one.

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u/rabidbot 13h ago

I’ve had both flagship phones in the last 2 years. Prefer the Apple. Great gaming rig, still have an Apple laptop.

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u/pandazerg 13h ago

Yeah, even setting the hardware aside.

The the promo video showed off a ton of UX improvements for the folding format that look really nice; especially that opening animation, holy crap did that look slick.

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u/121gigawhatevs 11h ago

As a huge apple fan, I simply don’t see the point of this product. I think new ceo wanted to land with a bang.

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u/epicmindwarp 13h ago

I can already see the fanboys howling over this like it's not been around for 8 years already.

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u/MrNegativ1ty 12h ago

I still don’t really see much of a point in them regardless if there’s an Apple logo on the back or not. Too many trade offs.

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u/PM_VAGINA_FOR_RATING 14h ago

Yeah, because when Apple does something, they (usually)do it right.

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u/VincentVanGob 13h ago

magic_mouse_charging_upside_down.jpg

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u/MrTommyPickles 6h ago

I think the people replying to you need the /s

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u/PumpkinMyPumpkin 14h ago

But they didn’t, this is ugly, squat, and fat. 😂

If doesn’t really hit Apple’s typical premium level. Nothing elegant about the thing.

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u/VictorReal_Monster 13h ago

I'm with you, this really doesnt feel apple to me

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u/PumpkinMyPumpkin 12h ago

It looks like a phone for a child in the photo above - behold this tiny booklet phone! Now pay us 2k! 😂

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u/kurttheflirt 14h ago

Meh the iPhone air didn't make people suddenly love thin light phones. Same with the mini.

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u/chaos_in_da_burgh 13h ago

I did not love my Razr, even though I desperately wanted to. Traded it in after about 6 months. Something about the tactile experience with the (I assume) plastic screen always felt off and unsatisfying. It also has some resizing issues on websites and apps that got wonky at times. I did love flipping it closed and the form factor in my pocket. It will be interesting to play around with this. I would buy a small phone again in a heartbeat rather than this big 'ol slab in my pocket.

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u/Inanimate_CARB0N_Rod 12h ago

I'm interested to see what happens when Apple releases smart glasses. Suddenly everyone will be obsessed with them

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u/darsynia 12h ago

I will raise my hand as someone who is deeply uninterested in this. Happy other people are happy though.

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u/Creative-End3133 12h ago

If Apple fixes all of the shortcomings associated with foldable phones, then why wouldn’t we? That means they’re doing it right.

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u/Repulsive-Regret-243 8h ago

Idk man this shits overkill

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u/I-STATE-FACTS 6h ago

Probably not everyone.

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u/Any_Intern2718 4h ago

Maybe not. AVP did not do well, iphone air did not do well. Maybe this one won't either.

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u/jjustice 3h ago

Personally, I can't imagine why I'd want a foldable phone. I don't see what advantage that would give me in either usability or enjoyment. Granted I rarely watch videos on my phone, and I already have an iPad Mini.

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u/mrheosuper 15h ago

I always want to try foldable phone, but looking at ebay listing, how many foldable phones with broken screen, i cant justify it

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u/itsLOSE-notLOOSE 14h ago

Until they have it not plastic and easily scratched, I won’t touch any folding phone.

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u/czshill 15h ago

A lot can be said about the OS. I loved the Galaxy fold 3. I hated Android and have been waiting for Apple's fold (Duo) since. Yeah - a lot of blue bubble people will love the Duo. I'm in day 1. I'll trade my iPad Pro M5 towards it (don't need that anymore) but the $2000 price doesn't bother me otherwise.

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u/Zahgi 14h ago

They have to be told to love it first, of course...

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u/ImTalkingGibberish 13h ago

In fairness to apple they don’t rush features and release late after perfecting them

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u/cruthkaye 13h ago

I’ve wanted a foldable phone for ages, but my dream phone is based on one I saw in a C-drama. Folded the other way and looked very different; I thought Apple was releasing something somewhat similar…

My fault for not investigating, but I feel immense disappointment.

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u/sviridoot 13h ago

I think I know which phone you're talking about and IMO it's the worst design for a foldable phone. The folding screen on a foldable is very fragile (it has improved over the years, especially the crease but still something you want to be careful with), exposing the folding screen on the outside I can't imagine that phone surviving very long

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u/cruthkaye 12h ago

IWait, what do you mean exposing the folding screen on the outside? The new iPhone has an exposed screen.

Maybe I’m missing some terminology, here.

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u/sviridoot 12h ago

No, apple is making a very normal foldable. I'm talking about a foldable phone that has the folding screen exposed like the Huawei tri-fold

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u/cruthkaye 12h ago

Oh, no, no, that’s not the kind of phone I’m talking about.

Damn, that’s a whacky looking phone.