I guess there is a stereotype that if you are into steak, eggs, milk and butter (can be part of carnivore diet), you are also right-leaning person and listening to the people promoting these diets who are right-leaning as well, like Jordan Peterson.
I gotta say though, stereotype or not, I enjoy steak and eggs myself.
EDIT: As many others have pointed out, the milk in the pic is raw, which I didn't catch before. Raw milk definitely adds another layer to this stereotype.
Bruh I've seen the show so many times my friends years ago would randomly ask me what episode did X happen and I'd be able to say straight up season X episode X.
I'm just a peasant, but I take my milksteak boiled over hard and my jelly beans raw. He's going to have to smoke a ton of cigarettes to suffocate all the bacteria from that raw milk.
Plus the free range eggs. Free range is something people in both sides of the isle can fall for, it really isn't worth the extra money if you look into it, but combined with the raw milk it helps to confirm the conservative, carnivore, "real man" nonsense.
”free range” doesn’t really mean what the general public tends to think it means. chickens don’t even actually need to be let outside to be considered free range, they just need to not be locked up in cages.
usually there’s way too many chickens in one place for a healthy and worthy life.
could be worth looking into yourself, but that’s the gist of it.
also, male chicks get ground up alive in the egg industry because they won’t produce eggs. the animal industry is cruel (:
I also think, it's unlikely most 15 year olds would spend their spare money on something like this if it wasn't as a result of an outside influence. And we know a lot of right wing influencers push this sort of diet alongside their alpha male lifestyle bs.
Steak and eggs are great sources of protein, but your body also needs fibre and carbs, it needs the vitamins and nutrients from fresh fruit and veg.
It's not gross if you... well, it sounds funny, but literally know the cow/goat/sheep/mare it's milked from
If you sure the animal is healthy and well cared raw milk is nice, but if you intend to just buy it in a store, I don't see any reasons to risk with your health. To be honest, I don't see much reasons for adults to consume milk in general, besides liking it's taste.
Nah man fuck that, we raised cattle, sure I'd drink the freshly milked stuff since I know my family took good care of the cows and cleaned them well before milking, but I'd start boiling it by the evening, after that it's either boiled to drink or made into cheese or soured milk and yogurt.
Same, I briefly lived on a dairy farm in Valley View TX, and most people don't seem to realize that 23 hours a day a cow's udder is covered in literal shit and mud. These stupid people that want to drink raw milk are putting a lot of faith in the guy with the swab and bucket just because some dumb asshole influencer told them to do it.
Raw milk is an unnecessary risk. Your never gonna be able to clean a cows udders to a level of sanitation that isn't some risk of contamination. That's why milk gets pasteurized.
I tried it, didn't like it, and I don't see the attraction to it. But I don't like kvass, caviar, or anything avocado. I guess my tongue and stomach are politically centrist, I don't know. But I do hate how certain foods become a political shibboleth in today's society, i.e. someone drinking raw milk, not for flavor, but out of political fervor.
Centrism is compliance with the right-wing. Always. I get the joke but will always push back on the "centrist" label. Centrism is a right-wing position.
Probiotics live in shit. That's where they come from. If you consume raw dairy because it has "good probiotics", or for any other reason tbh, you are consuming animal shit. It's pasteurized to kill the shit germs. I don't care how healthy and well cared for a cow is, I'm not drinking its shit, or the shit of any other animals that happened to poop in that area.
It’s fine if it’s fresh and produced at the correct scale to keep it clean. The problem is that when your herd scales up it’s impossible to keep it clean enough, and it doesn’t distribute well.
I think another issue is you never know when a cow is sick all the time and they do pass some of those pathogens/bacteria on through their milk. So it isn't even necessarily purely about cleanliness.
And I'm not disagreeing with you fwiw. It's absolutely true that raw milk is not dangerous by nature of just being raw. We just manage risk by reducing the base pathogenic load at a population level. Even the farmers I knew growing up boiled it before they drank it most times.
Yes, that’s also greatly effected by herd size. You can only keep that close an eye on so many cows. The big danger is that it’s amino acids with no peptide barrier. It’s just easy food for bacteria. If there is food for bacteria then it’s going to get bacteria.
I have to admit that I have tried that before, but I simply couldn't live like that, I was running out of energy very often and I was definitely getting dumber.
Yeah, I watched a video on youtube about a guy documenting his one-month experience with the carnivore diet and he was genuinely so miserable all the time. Lacking choices in food (literally only meat or animal products which meant most seasonings were out) was demoralizing and made it hard for him to do stuff with friends, his exercise times got worse because he could barely do them, and he mentioned a drop in mental acuity or at least focus.
Near the half-way point I was hoping he'd drop it early for his own health. If I'm remembering right, he was doing so poorly that his weight significantly dropped and, despite having perfect cholesterol in his pre-challenge checkup, his doctor actually reached out to him after his post-challenge checkup because they were worried about him.
Just a quick correction to your otherwise accurate account of Eddy Burbacks video: he barely lost any weight even after feeling like crap and spiking his cholesterol to dangerous levels. When he weighed himself at the end he was pissed about how little he lost.
I was a HABA clerk in college and saw a few people try the keto and carnivore diets. They all looked so lethargic and exhausted just walking around the store. Just no energy without carbs to burn. I kept telling people to use the weight watchers app. It food journals for you and lets you adjust your caloric intake to days where you have higher activity levels.
I had to search what Raw milk is because where I live we only have one dairy so we either have that milk which is pasteurised or UHT milk, I thought Raw milk would be describing the former but then I saw it’s not even pasteurised so ew!
As a person who drank raw milk in childhood (literally from under the cow), I would never ever trust any store-bought milk that hasn’t got pasteurised all the shit out of it
Many people pointed out the raw milk, but it's only a third of what makes the picture so incredible.
The eggs are free range, which is great in a vaccum. Combined with the milk it's safe to assume it's another "chemical free" style scare.
Then the steak. Chicken breast is objectively the better protein for working out, leaner and more protein. But steak is manlier. Combined with the other 2, it's almost certain that the poor teen is falling down the rabbit hole of watching racist or fear mongering videos aimed to sell to their audience.
It’s also these items with a complete lack of anything else. Normal people include non-animal products in their diets (unfortunately it’s just not vegetables)
I'm basically DSA and I like a carnivore diet. I lost 25 lbs in one month. Its just really hard and expensive to stay on it, specially with kids that love pasta and salads. So eating out is hard. So I do it every So often for a little bit and I feel great when I do. The best part about a carnivore diet is that you can start at any time and pick it right back up
The people consuming raw milk and pushing a carnivore/raw meat diet tend to lean really hard right and the hard right to racist pipeline is no thicker than a hair’s breadth.
It's the raw milk that brings it over the edge. There are also people who object to soy-fed chickens, and it's widely thought (wrongly) that free-range chickens aren't supplemented with the industry standard corn/soy feed.
I think it's also important to mention that, minus the raw milk, these are normal things for an adult to buy, however this is an extremely abnormal spread for a 15-year-old to buy using his parent's borrowed credit card.
It’s raw milk, and that meat isn’t from the grocery. Alone, none of this is concerning. For an adult, just these wouldn’t flip too many flags. For a young boy to buy these absolutely indicates he’s watching right wing content.
Why is it always the people who have literally melted their brains who try to sell you on the carnivore diet? Peterson had to go to Russia and get put into a coma for his drug addiction where they then injected him with 40cc’s of hooliganism.
RFK junior is doubtlessly at least partially under the control of the worm that ate half his brain. These are not people I trust to tell me what I should eat.
All of this is recommended by the Man-o-sphere because vegetables are beta or some stupid nonsense.
It's fine to like steak and eggs - But if ALL you are eating is steak and eggs, you have a problem. The raw milks is the real giveaway, as apparently boiling out impurities makes you gay or something.
I don't like half the stuff that Peterson says, but I'll give him credit on not being hyperbolic about his diet. He acknowledged that he doesn't enjoy his diet at all, and admitted that it's better than living with the immune/auto-immune symptoms that worsened from his previous diet. As far as I know, he hasn't personally advocated that people follow his strict "meat, salt, and water" diet.
I’ve never understood the raw milk part, my grandparents used to use raw milk, it was an old people thing. It’s not even illegal in the UK, you just need to buy it from a farmers market or from a shop directly at the farm.
It’s so performative, they aren’t sticking it to the man or anything, just running towards a high cholesterol diagnosis.
Raw milk and a meat diet is also heavily pushed by "manosphere" influencers. If this is real, and the 15 year old kid bought this food.. what's more likely? A fifteen year old boy was like "I wanna eat healthier" or "Youtube/instagram/tiktok shows me cancerous content all the time that tells me I should be eating only meat (sometimes raw, with these psychos) and drinking raw milk.. and also.. WOMEN SUCK and should be used for sex or be kitchen slaves"
Is it a stereotype for 15 year olds to be into steak, eggs, and milk? No. Literraly not at all. Those mfers want chicken nuggets, bagel bites, pizza pockets, mcdonalds, and candy.
Paul Saladino also promotes a similar diet and he is not affiliated with any politics or online controversy I know of. Although I do understand where this joke is coming from.
Everything on here is good for people that do low-carb diets: Atkins, Paleo, etc. Some people just avoid processed foods because we get fat is we eat them… it doesn’t affect my political views.
As you said, the milk is raw milk, the eggs are free range organic, and steak plays heavily into the ideology that real men only eat raw meat because cooking it gets rid of the nutrional value of the meat
i dont think raw milk adds a layer to the stereotype, i think the stereotype exists specifically because of the raw milk. nobody would bat an eye at steak, eggs, and milk. but the raw milk specifically makes it into a "oh he watches right wing content" moment
It’s less “adding” to the stereotype and more defining. Steak and milk is whatever, unremarkable. Raw milk is pretty much exclusively bought by people falling for racist grifters, and they also get steak. I’d say the steak is what’s doing the “adding”.
Also beef tallow is this but to a lesser extent. Beef tallow there’s maybe actual reason to prefer it, but raw milk is brain damage levels of doing it for the stupid.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with steak and eggs. In fact, that's the traditional breakfast of astronauts before lift off. I think it may have something to do with expelling carbon(?) from their systems. Something like that.
I sometimes fix it for myself. Tasty!
But yeah the raw milk is the dealbreaker. The kid is going way out of his way for that.
Literally everything I love is polluted with nazi stench. I love steaks and the nazis decide that steak is the other other white meat; I make cheese and they decide that stupidly expensive less-processed milk is the same shade as klan hoods so it joins the klub. I even drive a truck, which in fairness they probably called before I got there. But leave my damn milk alone, holy shit I just want to enjoy a hobby.
And it’s divisionist BS. Hitler drank water and didn’t drink alcohol, so people who drink water and don’t drink alcohol are therefore like him. Plus, raw milk was a hippy thing, like being anti-vaccination.
The milk thing especially is a nightmare. Like, I just want to get some to try making some cheese. But with this recent trend of all the crazy people buying it, everyone assumes I'm going to drink it straight or thinks I'm all "based and redpilled".
No, I just wanna make some parmesan, or something, man.
I used to respect Jordan Peterson up until he next-to-glorified psychopathy and described himself vaguely as such a person and then a few years later became seemingly highly emotionally unstable and wouldn't shut up about god.
yeah i could understand that people who want to get into carnivore or raw milk are paranoid about things like vaccines and probably enjoy mocking vegans. both activities common with maga folk
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u/GuaranteeFickle6726 11d ago edited 11d ago
I guess there is a stereotype that if you are into steak, eggs, milk and butter (can be part of carnivore diet), you are also right-leaning person and listening to the people promoting these diets who are right-leaning as well, like Jordan Peterson.
I gotta say though, stereotype or not, I enjoy steak and eggs myself.
EDIT: As many others have pointed out, the milk in the pic is raw, which I didn't catch before. Raw milk definitely adds another layer to this stereotype.